Battlefield 5, one of the best FPS going down the drain due to political crisis and extreme deadlines by EA...?

Mechanically, at it's heart, Battlefield V subjectively delivers a much more refined infantry style gameplay. Tanks or snipers no longer dominate the main of the game; squad based actions are more rewarded in the style of Bad Company 2 & BF3. The graphics and destruction are the best the series has known thus far, the Map design is varied and each offer their own unique play-style. Yet something is missing here in V. Polish (not Poland), balance across all utilities, sheer amount of content & map sizes seem to be the problems. A 2 year strict deadline put on DICE, the company filled with the highest calibre of talent in the industry, might have been too little. Why couldn't they deliver the AAA+ in this time? Is it the increased development time the AAA+ games of this generation asks for & could it be that DICE is entirely dependant on EA for their direction of the game? Again, the core of the game is so well (generally accepted) grounded and has so much potential for the future. But potential is all we truly get at this point and that is arguably not enough to warrant a full purchase for a biyearly release. What's your take on this?

@watercrack445: The user ratings are mostly idiots who think they need to write a bad review of a game they don't have based on a trailer of a game that had a woman with a prosthetic arm ( Which doesnt even appear in the game ) and an exec who said that nobody is forcing people to play the game if they don't like female characters in it. Some of the comments are laughable.

I'm too uneducated for this game

I'm very happy with those changes: Vehicles and snipers actually requiring skill, not just spending the entire match on a mountain somewhere, outside the playable space so people can't do anything about them.

I've seen a lot of reviews focus on the negatives, the things the game is missing. Instead of focussing on the positive, the things the game does do right.

Especially Eurogamer seems quick to jump on everything DICE does wrong, meanwhile Call of Duty getting 20hz tickrate servers and every other issue with the game and its Blackout mode is just brushed off... It's not that big a deal for Eurogamer when Call of Duty screws up. In fact Treyarch and Activision get praised every chance they get.

Firestorm not being included on release is another negative for Battlefield, eventhough it could be seen as positives that DICE/Criterion are taking their time, or that it's coming as a free update.

I dunno, just feels like a bunch of double standards to me.

Not going to support these SJW agenda driven idiots. That try to change history for the sake of there garbage US culture.

Trolls and people still mad there are women in the game. What you have to realize about these people is that once they get mad about something, they devote their entire lives to ruining it for other people. They literally do nothing but sit on sites and rate things poorly and talk trash about it trying to get others upset. The game is fun to me, don't worry about a ratings.

Don't worry, you WON'T be miss!!!

ahhh, when those in power feel threatened because their suppression of world history is no longer being allowed.

It's a little known fact that women did not exist until after WWII.

Fact.

@Gatygun: Lmao confusing capitalism for SJW agendas. They want that female money bro, why are you against the free market?

What's more important is game design, not tit to dick ratio. If we start getting triggered over a girl instead of the actual game being crap, we are in trouble.

BFV totally looks freaking amazing on PC, no doubt. Even in 1440p/60fps, the game itself totally blows the console's ports lol.

Woman in WW2 didn't exist on the frontlines, but Woman were their only as Snipers. WW2 was the biggest War in Human history, they needed more bodies and Woman can do Snipping. My Grandfather served in WW2, it's how I know this.

No I mean, women, the whole gender, as a species, did not exist until after WWII.

EA are dicks, so watching anything bad happen to them is a delight, and probably beneficial to the gaming industry in the long run,, Unless it ends up like Iraq when Saddam was just replaced by ISIS.

I think if someone tells them about four quadrant film making their heads might explode.

How is it going down the drain when it is going to keep getting better? DICE is very good at supporting the BF games after release. They actually do listen to the community and make necessary changes. It may not be the most complete package right now, but BFV has a solid foundation. I have played over 40 hours and I am still loving it.

True, a lot of the hate comes from people that only seen the original reveal trailer.

People are way too quick to write off games these days.

Is BF V perfect ? No, but then it doesn't need to be. Battlefield 1 improved a lot during its lifetime, so will Battlefield V.

LOL one of the best FPS.. nice joke

battlefield series is even more stale than COD today.

not really.

its getting overwhelmingly negative user reviews

https://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/battlefield-v

almost as same as battlefront 2. DICE only knows how to make engine. not game itself.

If someone has enjoyed past BF games I don't see why now would be reason not to get it. There's still your pissy gamer automatons who will be like "derp it's EA not buying derp, everyone else says so, I am going to pray it fails then be like 'oh good EA killed another studio' when it does".

98% of this is angry incels who've only smelt a womans hair on the bus.

It can't be taken seriously.

How many of those negative user reviews actually give the game an honest review and judge it without some bullshit agenda or bias? Very few I would say. You can't take the opinion of clowns seriously. You being one of them. LOL

The game immersion is quite ruined with female screams honestly, especially on German side. The problem is Dìce made all medics female by default, so the male female ratio in any MP match is usually 3 to 1. So there is A LOT of female screaming on the batllefield lol And it's a bit cringy to see female characters wearing male WW2 uniforms. I remember females in WW2 had their own uniforms. But dice just made them dressed the same as men and called it a day.

but in this case they are right.

this has been worst potrayal of WW2 i have ever seen. even more. i always forgot BFV is a WW2 game.

this was the real WW2.

Is EA dead yet??? im about as excited for this as i was for battlefront 2, ( which was avoiding it completely)

But yeah who cares what i think, keep shoveling your shekels to EA, not my money do what you want

@ghosts4ever:

You do know the reason why it was called WORLD WAR 2, right? That war was MUCH bigger than "D-Day" over Normady. BFV is just covering another campaign to WWII, in which they're plenty of campaign to cover in this particular war.

they are uncovering historically inaccurate theme. thats not WW2.

look at this

theres absolutely no WW2 feel in BFV.

its just another SJW/Feminist game by EA. if they called thier game as alternate history WW2 than it would have been fine.

Well, it's an opinion I suppose .... but seriously, look up a video of COD 1 MP gameplay. COD BLOPS 4 isn't stunningly different. Then look at the original BF and compare it to BF5...... be honest and let me know what you think.

@ghosts4ever:

Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, because to me, even with me not playing the War Stories single player campaign, the multiplayer still feels very WWII. It definitely have a bunch of "references" pertaining to the war (like a VIDEO GAME suppose to be), and not a history lesson. You'll NEVER find a game to tell an exact WWII tale because the truth is boring to play through, so a video game have to throw a "this isn't reality" vibe to it. I believe the reason why people are going double standard with bfv is because as far as gameplay goes, it get really close to the war than most (if no th all) other war themed games have done.

This was the real WW2? So there were no Black soldiers? I mean ..... If you're going to get all worked up about having females in BFV, shouldn't the game you're suggesting as being the real deal be at least somewhat realistic?

I'm not actually interested in BFV. I might wait for the next Battlefield games in the future. There are too many games that I am busy playing right now and I don't care for Battlefield 5 at all.

The game is pretty epic...

pokemon lets go killed battlefield 5

:-)

This is exactly what I'm talking about.

You spend more time hating on a game and spreading hate than you spend time actually playing the game.

Just let it go man, move on with your life. Don't like the game ? That's fine. Plenty of other people do.

Yeah man, I'm starting to really like the Hamada map.

But I'm not convinced that Conquest assault is the best game mode for it.

I like it because it gives the game the old school BF feel with the large map and vehicles being a factor. You have room to breathe on the map without being attacked from all angles. Conquest Assault can be fun if the teams know what they are doing. It can also be frustrating if you are stuck with idiots.

Politics have nothing to do with the game's response, that's like saying Fallout 76 is flopping because Obsidian didn't develop it.

Sure, there is a small audience that likes to pin it on that, but in reality that's mostly irrelevant to the actual forces affecting the game: such as heavy competition, narrative of the game being early access, and bad word of mouth from Battlefront 2.

Yeah that's true for any game mode, hahaha ^_^

We should definitely play together soon, but first I gotta get Windows 10/DX12 sorted out, doing that as soon as I can find the time, which is most likely this weekend.

I'm very happy the game now offers playlists for the Frontlines and Breakthrough game modes seperate, these should be the most fun for me.

It certainly is. I also love Battlefront 2 for that reason, it has a ton of epic firefights with adrenaline induced chaos. Check out this video, Battlefield 5 PC is Graphics King?

@davillain-: Yea the incel movement is one of a loser's mentality, you described the group perfectly.

more likely it's being punished for the sins of EA from last year

I have no idea why Battlefield V is struggling, but I won't be surprised if it's the current political climate that helped harm it. And it won't be the last game to be affected by it either (if Beyond Good and Evil 2 ever comes out, you can bet that will be next). It's one of the reasons GTA VI won't be a thing for a while (one of the Houser's confirmed as such).

@jeezers: I’m too educated for this game.

holy shit, GTFO with that nonsense.

The game is out. It's fun. Or it's not. It might not be for you. It might be for you.

Who cares? The hype/anti-hype can stop, and the "political'ness" of it was overblown. Move on to the next game that has women that you agree/disagree with and be outraged by it, because there's nothing to see here.

Jesus Christ you people really try to take the fun out of gaming.

@mrbojangles25: naw man screw EA,like seriously everything they touch eventually turns to shit. Battlefield is on that path, titanfall is next, stop giving ea money

Good, people should stop buying COD and BF

I wasn't aware that Gatygun was in power, but I suppose I should be thankful that BF V shows us what actually happened during WW2 without it being suppressed.

I do think it has a lot to do with it because there is precedent. We see comic books and movies fail that are trying to appease to the extremists. I mean 90% of the world isn't extremist, and will be quite offended by being force fed some changes or lies in the name of 'bettering' themselves. It's appalling the way these things are communicated to customers. You're either willing to accept that you are an internalized sexist and racist and have them help you 'cure' yourself, or you must be against them and oh my; that means you are truly racist and sexist and you probably know it, too. Maybe you are even a gamer... or god help you, a man. The way EA made up bullshit stories to make people feel so bad about themselves for wanting a mainline BF game to feel like a mainline BF game, it's not how you treat customers if you want them to buy your product. It would have been better if they hadn't said anything at all.

The manipulative and accusatory tactics of the extreme left are eventually going to lead to a major backlash (hopefully not against the entire left). (Because yes I am very leftist, and yes I play BFV, and yes I use some female soldiers because I like playing as female characters, but I do think it disrupts the tone (and that it was unnecessary) and that they completely botched the messaging. I 1000% understand anyone who wants this game to fail because of its bullshit and their treatment of the audience. They really shouldn't have made the world their enemy.)

for once i agree with you.

2 of most stale franchise today along with assassins creed.

This game is early access at best. Don’t know why people defend this incomplete trash

I’m not touching this game cuz I despise EA. I think it’s cool they have male and females in this game. Not so sure about those robotic arms I saw though lol. Anyway, FU EA!

Fallout 76 and now Battlefield 5 both getting bad reviews. November seems like a failed month in gaming.