Battlefield Hardline Beta and the State of the Franchise

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#51 R10nu
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I was very critical of the first Beta.

"BF4 Mod" and all that jazz.

But after playing a bit of this new Beta, it's honestly pretty decent and different enough from BF4.

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Just enough, though.

I can see why someone would buy it, but i won't.

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#52 parkurtommo
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@KHAndAnime said:

@parkurtommo said:

Oh yeah I'm sure the differences feel pretty significant for someone who's played BF a lot. Like if Valve were to change DOTA 2 even slightly the whole community has PTSD for a few weeks. But I've played like 5 hours of BF4 and most of it was in single player, I don't like the game feel. Call me superficial but I just can't relate to the way it presents itself. Battlefield isn't self aware and takes itself way too seriously, that's why BC2 will always be the best in the series for me.

Hardline takes itself seriously? Give me a break. Something tells me you didn't even play the game once. It has cops rolling around in ridiculous muscle-cruisers blasting dubstep and rap about smoking weed while mowing down robbers with giant gattling guns. This is WAY more tongue-in-cheek than Bad Company 2.

I honestly might be enjoying this more than Bad Company 2. BC2 was fun but it disgraced the Battlefield franchise with its arcadey consolized crap (no prone and such). This has the fun of BC2, as well as the versatility and tactics of a Battlefield game. They lightened up on the destruction-gimmick crap (which the Battlefield franchise has never really been about).

Well I played for about 10 minutes before leaving out of boredom lol.

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#53 Soethi6
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just read it is 720p on XOne. BF4 was horrible in 720p. Not going to start the beta (by the way, why did it downloaded automatically anyway!?)

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#54 speedfog
Member since 2009 • 4966 Posts

I'm going to buy it, I'm not really into big open maps, with all the overuse of vehicles. Not just my thing.

This one is made for different customers, maybe the COD crowd. But that doesn't mean that it's bad...

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#55 SuddenlyTragic
Member since 2005 • 976 Posts

@speedfog: Well if that's the case then they're going to have a hell of a time getting people away from Advanced Warfare, because its infinitely better than Hardline.

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#56 deactivated-5ba16896d1cc2
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@soethi6: eww 720p on the Xbone? lol wow..

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#57  Edited By Mr-Powers
Member since 2013 • 508 Posts

Bad Company was the series peak. Hardline feels like a shtty bad company. It's nice to do a driveby without being blown away by a tank or running into mines. But, the novelty wears off after a while, especially with the sht gunplay.

The people are bullet sponges and a small caliber gun has more recoil than an AK in BF4. I'm not gonna pay full price just to do drive bys with the shotgon, no matter how cool it is.

If the DLC was free like BC2, that would be more enticing. Just charge for the guns, and give away the maps. A ton of people already invested in BF4 and premium, and they will probably stick with that instead of shelling out for a glorified mod.

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#58 chernoalpha527
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@Wasdie said:

@silversix_: That's the most lazy and willfully ignorant statement about BF3 and BF4 possible that doesn't carry any weight to people who have been playing the series for the past few years. Battlefield 4 in its current state (not how it launched), is probably the finest Battlefield to date. Most refined mechanics, best balanced, excellent diversity in the maps, the most amount of gamemodes, and a renewed emphasis on teamplay, all while DICE and EA have shown their ability to support a game well after launch if they put their minds to it. The next major patch coming in a few weeks is refining the game even more and adding in tons of quality of life features that will just make the experience better. Which is good because Hardline is going to flop hardcore and Battlefield 4 will live on.

Vicersal was making a cop drama game and had worked on Battlefield titles in the past and some EA executive decided to merge it with the Battlefield series as DICE was given the go ahead to make Mirror's Edge 2 as well as Star Wars Battlefront. A lot has changed at EA since this decision was made, but it's still a product of EA's legacy of terrible management. It has no right being a Battlefield game. The series should just take a break while the whole modern military craze kind of dies down and DICE is off making other games.

The Battlefield series needs a break. It's suffering franchise fatigue and the BF4 fiasco was proof of that. EA has diversified their shooter lineup with Titan and Battlefront and doesn't need to be pumping out a modern military shooter each year. Battlefield 4 is great and could easily last a few more years if they just keep making DLC for it. A large expansion pack with 5-10 new maps, vehicles, and some game modes for like $30 would keep the game going for another year strong with ease. They don't need a sequel right now. The work they've done to BF4 is proof that the team is committed to it and isn't slowing down the support.

EA needs to rethink their strategy here.

Very well said BF4 is excellent now and I hope it continues to live on. I sure as hell will keep playing however I really do want another BC3 though.

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#59 Wasdie  Moderator
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@R10nu: That honestly doesn't look all that bad. I don't know if I would want to drop $60 on it, but it does look like it plays different than BF4.

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#60 Soethi6
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@xboxiphoneps3 said:

@soethi6: eww 720p on the Xbone? lol wow..

yeah... disgusting... uninstalled without playing it!

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#61 Daious
Member since 2013 • 2315 Posts

Good thing I preordered this game for 30 bucks at best buy #thankyoucouponsworkingonunintendedgames

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#62  Edited By brimmul777
Member since 2011 • 6302 Posts

People who liked Battlefield:Hardline---The few,the proud,the true gamers.I guess I'm the few.

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#63 millerlight89
Member since 2007 • 18658 Posts

After BF4, it's safe to say I am done with this franchise. BF4 is utter shit. Hardline is....well pitiful.

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#64 leandrro
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@R10nu said:

I was very critical of the first Beta.

"BF4 Mod" and all that jazz.

But after playing a bit of this new Beta, it's honestly pretty decent and different enough from BF4.

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Just enough, though.

I can see why someone would buy it, but i won't.

i hate EA for all the bf4 mess, but surprisingly the game is good, well worth my money

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#65 leandrro
Member since 2007 • 1644 Posts

i dont know what youre talking about, its 13 games + 14 expansions in 12 years

1942

expansion

expansion

vietnam

bf2

bf2 moder combat (very different game on consoles)

expansion

expansion

expansion

2142

expansion

bad company

heroes

1943

bad company 2

bc vietnam

bf3

expansion

expansion

expansion

expansion

expansion

bf4

expansion

expansion

expansion

expansion

expansion

bf hardline

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#66 mitu123
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@mr-powers said:

Bad Company was the series peak.

Yep, series hasn't been as fun after BC2.

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#67 marcheegsr
Member since 2004 • 3115 Posts

Having spent almost 200 hours into bf4 mp, Hardline is a welcomed change although similar in a lot of ways. It's day one for me.

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#68 NathanDrakeSwag
Member since 2013 • 17392 Posts

Played a few matches and it's horrible. This is nothing but cash grab filler to bridge the gap until Battlefront.