All devs are aiming at native 1080p on PS4. Why is DICE insisting on the damn 900p?
The game look beautiful and the 60fps are very welcome, but sub 1080p is completly unacceptable by current standards.
Because they want it running at 60FPS.
I'm one of the few who prefer 1080p30 over 900p60.
But then again, there are many good looking 1080p60 games on PS4. DICE should slightly lower the visuals and effects for a higher resolution, in my opinion.
Hahahahaa so now you care about graphics.? Odd you didn't care for Halo 5 dropping a hair from 720p with last gen graphics..hahahahaa
Now lets wait for the inevitable 720p xbox one version..lol
@Halo2-Best-FPS said:
900p, 40 fps, low.
PowerPoint 4.
Hahahaahahaa is 900p mostly 60FPS some one didn't see the video..lol
@GoldenElementXL said:
So is 900p acceptable now? I still think it looks good and for the most part the framerate is good. This resolution pretty much confirms I'm going with PC on this one though.
It has always been for you on xbox one,and 900p has been there on PS4 since launch so i don't see why try to pretend that now the PS4 get 900p as acceptable,since day 1 there was one the problem is on xbox one is even lower but like always you say shit about that one...hahahahaa
@xhawk27 said:
Here come the Cows saying 900p is still better than 720p. This is what you call..... deflection.
No is call reality.
@nyadc said:
Hardline for example averaged about 5 FPS less on the PlayStation 4 than the Xbox One when demanding things were taking place, I'm assuming that will transfer to this game as well.
BF4 average 10 FPS less on xbox one,Hardline was a bad looking and poorly done also it was done by Viceral not Dice.
@nyadc said:
I don't give a shit, I would never buy a game like this on a console, I'll be playing this at 1440p Ultra with a 120 FPS average... It will likely be 720p on the Xbox One, if it is I don't have any doubt the framerate will be consistently more stable and a bit higher.
Battlefield 4 was also made when SDK tools were a lot more crude for the Xbox One, things have changed.
Yeah things have change it show BFH was 720p yeah so much changed...lol
Dice is doing SWB not Viceral,and Hardline doesn't look even close to this game.
Oh please stop your damage control we freaking have you quoted on Halo 5 thread defending the shitty ass graphics it has and the almost 720p resolution,the whole 1440p 120FPS crap is total bullshit funny when is Halo you can play it at close to 720p and is ok, when is something on PS4 is most be 1440p or nothing...
@FastRobby: You guys act like the PS4 version is 30 fps and the xbox One version will be 60 fps. The difference in framerate between the two will be small but the resolution differences will be much larger. Big whoop if the Xbox version can do a couple of frames more than the PS4 when the image is a blurry mess.
@flyincloud1116: Try 720p with horrible image quality and dips below 60fps brah. Teh cloudz was a lie.
Crackdown 3 says no. Battlefront isn't using the "Cloud Tech" or "DX12". At least not yet. We'll see how many games get upgraded to DX12 API after it launches this fall.
DX12 is on xbox one since day 12...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Most features were and by now is more than complete what you get this holiday is a new windows 10 like UI,DX12 is out on PC let alone xbox one which got it before PC.
Not to mention that you claim that by 2014 720p games would be gone and by 2015 900p games as well..hahahahaa
@FastRobby: You guys act like the PS4 version is 30 fps and the xbox One version will be 60 fps. The difference in framerate between the two will be small but the resolution differences will be much larger. Big whoop if the Xbox version can do a couple of frames more than the PS4 when the image is a blurry mess.
They don't even know if the xbox one version will have faster frames,NyaDC was assuming it will because of BFH,he forgot that game wasn't made by Dice.
The game is 60FPS with some drops to mid low and high 50's,seems pretty solid and if the xbox one version is a frame or 2 higher will not be notable at all do to the game sticking close to 60.
@flyincloud1116: Try 720p with horrible image quality and dips below 60fps brah. Teh cloudz was a lie.
Crackdown 3 says no. Battlefront isn't using the "Cloud Tech" or "DX12". At least not yet. We'll see how many games get upgraded to DX12 API after it launches this fall.
DX12 is on xbox one since day 12...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Most features were and by now is more than complete what you get this holiday is a new windows 10 like UI,DX12 is out on PC let alone xbox one which got it before PC.
Not to mention that you claim that by 2014 720p games would be gone and by 2015 900p games as well..hahahahaa
Well I disagree. If I can get the picture to look decent and I know it's going to drop regardless of what I do, I'm going to have a decent image and try to manage the drops as good as I can.
Framerate on a first person shooter directly affects mechanical aspects of the game, specifically controls, having a framerate that has a low of 57 for example is a hell of a lot better than a low of 50. You're probably a more casual type of gamer who doesn't really care about this stuff, I however am not.
If it's momentary it's not a big deal. Also, LOL at you casual comment. So I guess I shouldn't buy those two 290x's like you do then. I can just lower the resolution on my games and take down some image settings and presto instant hardcore gamer running at 200 fps+ at low settings with resolution at 720. Thanks you just saved me $300+.
Seriously you are the most inconsistent person here. You seriously going to tell me you PC game with dual 290X's for framerate and not image quality as well? No way, I guarrantee you that you want framerate AND image quality. Don't sit here and pretend that image quality doesn't matter at all just because your preferred box isn't able to keep up.
You're missing the point, I don't know you, I don't know how you game or what your priorities are, however you're willing to sacrifice performance for better image quality and that seems like something a more casually oriented gamer would do, especially as far as an online first person shooter is concerned.
I still play Counter-Strike games at 1024x768 at the lowest settings possible, not only for performance reasons but also for tighter control and a more rudimentary rendered image which makes the environment more simple and exposes enemies more easily.
You are right, you don't know me, so you can stop pretending to. I like games that look good and perform well. I'm not obsessed wither either, I enjoy games that are balanced. If the quality of the image is decent at the expense of a few frames I can't tell are missing, then I'll be happy with it. There's nothing casual about that. Counter Strike? A game like counter strike won't benefit from high resolutions. Let me see you play start citizen or any current generation game at 1024x768 and be ok with it. And if so, why do you need two 290x's?
I can't watch the video at work, but the article makes no mention of 40fps dips. Was that Halo2bestfps guy making that shit up? 40fps was in the alpha, but not in the beta according to the article.
Sure I get that but are you saying that the framerate won't drop at all on the Xbox One?
No, just that it will likely hold a higher average and be a more consistent experience.
If it doesn't. Can we drag and quarter everyone touting XBone's framerate advantage at every turn? I will.
For XBone fans, this game will be their Alamo.
The fact that they won't even show the Xbox version should give an idea on how it performs. But let's also not forget that this is a beta. BF4 released broken and the framerate was pretty bad. Now it's like a different game.
The fact that they won't even show the Xbox version should give an idea on how it performs. But let's also not forget that this is a beta. BF4 released broken and the framerate was pretty bad. Now it's like a different game.
Eurogamer will certainly do an analysis. They always do. Perhaps they just wanted to work on the PS4 version first to give a base line for reviewing the bone.
The fact that they won't even show the Xbox version should give an idea on how it performs. But let's also not forget that this is a beta. BF4 released broken and the framerate was pretty bad. Now it's like a different game.
Eurogamer will certainly do an analysis. They always do. Perhaps they just wanted to work on the PS4 version first to give a base line for reviewing the bone.
"How it compares to the unseen Xbox One version will be interesting as well - something we intend to pursue once the beta launches publicly."
They weren't shown the Xbox version at all. They have to wait like the rest of us to see it. But yeah, they'll definitely be doing one.
So is 900p acceptable now? I still think it looks good and for the most part the framerate is good. This resolution pretty much confirms I'm going with PC on this one though.
It has always been for you on xbox one,and 900p has been there on PS4 since launch so i don't see why try to pretend that now the PS4 get 900p as acceptable,since day 1 there was one the problem is on xbox one is even lower but like always you say shit about that one...hahahahaa
I've said that BF 4 on Xbox One looked disgusting so I have been critical of the Xbox Ones resolution. My issue here is that anytime the PS4 is 1080p and the Xbox One is 900p we get a lot of "lol Xbone is last gen" and "900p in unacceptable in Gen 8" comments. But in this thread there is a user claiming that the PS4 version might as well be considered equal to the PC version because the only difference is resolution. No Cow has come out against this user so can we draw the conclusion that you all agree with him? That would then mean the Xbox One could be considered equal to the PS4 because the only difference is the resolution, right? We have to be consistent here.
Either resolution is a big deal and "LOL Xbone"but "LOL at PS4 vs PC"
OR
it doesn't matter and "Lol Hermits and their $3000 PC's" but PS4 and Xbone are pretty much equal.
System Wars has been waiting for Cows to determine their stance on sales, resolution, framerate and pay for online since this gen started. There has been nothing but flip flopping from you guys. Let the rest of SW know when you guys have made up your minds and we can go from there.
It looks stunning on pc. And the ps4 version looks alright, fairly stable 60 fps, 40 player action with graphics like that on the ps4 is really good considering the ps4 hardware, even if isn't running at 1080p. Just compare it to other 60 fps games (games that actually manages somewhat stable 60 fps) on the console.
I've said that BF 4 on Xbox One looked disgusting so I have been critical of the Xbox Ones resolution. My issue here is that anytime the PS4 is 1080p and the Xbox One is 900p we get a lot of "lol Xbone is last gen" and "900p in unacceptable in Gen 8" comments. But in this thread there is a user claiming that the PS4 version might as well be considered equal to the PC version because the only difference is resolution. No Cow has come out against this user so can we draw the conclusion that you all agree with him? That would then mean the Xbox One could be considered equal to the PS4 because the only difference is the resolution, right? We have to be consistent here.
Either resolution is a big deal and "LOL Xbone"but "LOL at PS4 vs PC"
OR
it doesn't matter and "Lol Hermits and their $3000 PC's" but PS4 and Xbone are pretty much equal.
System Wars has been waiting for Cows to determine their stance on sales, resolution, framerate and pay for online since this gen started. There has been nothing but flip flopping from you guys. Let the rest of SW know when you guys have made up your minds and we can go from there.
Well, 1080p should be the rule rather than the exception. However, don't you think it's a tad bit premature to drag the cows in the mud over this when we have no clue what the Bone's version is running at, yet?
900p is a let-down. I certainly understand that sentiment, considering I am getting the game for PC. However, every console gamer knows that there are compromises to be made unless they want $600 consoles to become a thing again. In that regard, the performance difference given the cost difference (lol pricecut) has specifically put the PS4 in the driver's seat just about every time in regards to this.
I think Cows deserve to be ridiculed for comparing the PS4 to PC. A console is an affordable vehicle for gaming, not an all-powerful one. That being said, WE ALL KNOW that MS spent hardware budget on HDMI inputs, DSPs for kinect integration, and the resulting bigger PCB as well as cooling solutions whereas Sony put all that budget into making a better game system.
What exactly is there to make a mind up about? FFS, Lemmings from last-gen have gone to the PS4. Lemmings won the debate in the 7th gen and Sony made a PS4 that reacted to arguments the dust settled on. Here you are, in a state of confusion that makes no sense so let me break it down.
Things 7th gen cows said:
Pay-to-play online gaming will never be mainstream on consoles - The market answered by selling 85+ million 360s
Cross platform games will never be more important than exclusives - 85+ million 360s sold and CoD became the software sales champion of the gen
Exclusive DLC will not affect people's decision to buy a console - See also market reaction in point # 2
It's more important to have esoteric hidden powers than ease of development - 360 sold more hardware and had more games for it than PS3
Indy developers are not important to the health of a console - Live Arcade became a revenue behemoth for XBox during the 360 era
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If any of these arguments are looking eerily familiar lately, it's because the Lemmings are using every fucking last one of them to the dotted i and crossed t. Now, if you want to know what I think is really crazy, it's using almost decade-old arguments you won a generational war on and somehow expecting different results. ESPECIALLY, when the Cows have not had to change their tune on things like this:
Blu-Ray
Motion control hype
First Party superiority
The technically more powerful console
European and Japanese market presence and its effect on software diversity.
-------------- Do you honestly expect Cows to plant their flag on arguments that they know (we all know) were lost causes over the course of the longest console generation ever? Is that not more a reflection on you than anyone else? Can you not see that the Cows have grown overwhelming as a faction by learning from the lessons of the past and welcoming millions more people back into their fold as result?
Ponder that and get back to me. God almighty, it is getting tired as all **** seeing Lems cry about the wayback machine and glory days when they could sit here and actually make some sense in System Wars rather than this incoherent gotya douchebaggery we've had to endure for the past two and a half years.
I assume every hermits here are all equipped with 970s since it's what's required to run it 1080p 60fps at Ultra? Blops 3 on PS4 at 1080/60 looks better any way.
@gpuking said:
No one is saying this doesn't look better on pc even if just barely. But I laugh at the hermits who think this is graphics king material, it's just plain ludicrous.
@flyincloud1116: Try 720p with horrible image quality and dips below 60fps brah. Teh cloudz was a lie.
Crackdown 3 says no. Battlefront isn't using the "Cloud Tech" or "DX12". At least not yet. We'll see how many games get upgraded to DX12 API after it launches this fall.
DX12 is on xbox one since day 12...hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Most features were and by now is more than complete what you get this holiday is a new windows 10 like UI,DX12 is out on PC let alone xbox one which got it before PC.
Not to mention that you claim that by 2014 720p games would be gone and by 2015 900p games as well..hahahahaa
Funny, i never seen your reply when i proved you wrong yet again about how halo 5 isn't available to download.
I love how all of a sudden, "900p still looks good" lol. I can scroll down the the post right under this one and see those same exact people talking bout 900p on the Xbox is inferior lol, too funny.
I love how all of a sudden, "900p still looks good" lol. I can scroll down the the post right under this one and see those same exact people talking bout 900p on the Xbox is inferior lol, too funny.
Cows aren't considered the biggest hypocrites for nothing.
I love how all of a sudden, "900p still looks good" lol. I can scroll down the the post right under this one and see those same exact people talking bout 900p on the Xbox is inferior lol, too funny.
Cows aren't considered the biggest hypocrites for nothing.
@Zero_epyon: @misterpmedia: @Shewgenja: my god the three of you are so pathetic. Look at us feeling superior and laughing with people that prefer the xbox one console. Don't worry guys you truly are the c00l kidzzzz
@FastRobby: As opposed to what? Harping about CPU clock advantages and an invincible holiday lineup all fucking year long? Just to have one of the biggest games of the year 720p all over your face?
You know what? Yeah, this is WAY cooler. It doesn't even impact me personally since I'm getting the game on PC but got-damn is all the shit talking blowing back up in your faces.
@Zero_epyon: @misterpmedia: @Shewgenja: my god the three of you are so pathetic. Look at us feeling superior and laughing with people that prefer the xbox one console. Don't worry guys you truly are the c00l kidzzzz
Tell that to your buddy who acts like he's a know it all gaming god that backpedals when he's wrong. The only reason I laugh is because of the tone he takes when giving his opinion...
I mean you obviously did not read the threads except for the laughing parts. I am critical of Dice here, not being able to bring the game up to speed after two years. And I can't believe at least one of them isn't 1080p at this point. It sucks. But go ahead, keep ignoring my real talk and focus on defending an idiot....
And if "but Teh 900p" is going to be your defense after no one gave a single winged flying crap about it when BF4 came to the PS4 then heaven help you. Not when you're in straight up Gen7 territory with 720p. You Lems shouldn't even bring up resolution right now. Just stay in your time out corner and hope this storm passes with as little effect as possible. Your console is weaker than styrofoam in a tornado.
Do you honestly expect Cows to plant their flag on arguments that they know (we all know) were lost causes over the course of the longest console generation ever? Is that not more a reflection on you than anyone else? Can you not see that the Cows have grown overwhelming as a faction by learning from the lessons of the past and welcoming millions more people back into their fold as result?
Ponder that and get back to me. God almighty, it is getting tired as all **** seeing Lems cry about the wayback machine and glory days when they could sit here and actually make some sense in System Wars rather than this incoherent gotya douchebaggery we've had to endure for the past two and a half years.
My issue is with the weekly or even daily flip flopping in order to win arguments. One day we are playing by the rules and only counting Gamespot scores when talking about a flop, (Halo MCC) Then when it fits the argument Metacritic comes in and trumps Gamespot scores. (Forza 5) 900p isn't acceptable when it's the Xbox One game, but if it's a 900p PS4 game and as long as the Xbox One version is below that, it's ok. There are users, like Tormentos that are just fine with being labeled a hypocrite because "Lems do it too." I would think with a system as good as the PS4, a system selling as well as the PS4 would gives Cows all they need to be the "better" faction. Instead they are the faction that instigates silly fights and ignores the rules of the board. There are not many Lems or Sheep left in System Wars, so most of the time Cows go unchecked. In fact all Cows had to do was follow the rules set last gen and they would be king here. Unfortunately so many of them have a complex after getting owned most of last gen. Indies are now great, buying exclusives is cool and multiplat sales mean something........ Winning console sales and having better graphics is all Cows needed to own Lems this gen but they got greedy.
Do you honestly expect Cows to plant their flag on arguments that they know (we all know) were lost causes over the course of the longest console generation ever? Is that not more a reflection on you than anyone else? Can you not see that the Cows have grown overwhelming as a faction by learning from the lessons of the past and welcoming millions more people back into their fold as result?
Ponder that and get back to me. God almighty, it is getting tired as all **** seeing Lems cry about the wayback machine and glory days when they could sit here and actually make some sense in System Wars rather than this incoherent gotya douchebaggery we've had to endure for the past two and a half years.
My issue is with the weekly or even daily flip flopping in order to win arguments. One day we are playing by the rules and only counting Gamespot scores when talking about a flop, (Halo MCC) Then when it fits the argument Metacritic comes in and trumps Gamespot scores. (Forza 5) 900p isn't acceptable when it's the Xbox One game, but if it's a 900p PS4 game and as long as the Xbox One version is below that, it's ok. There are users, like Tormentos that are just fine with being labeled a hypocrite because "Lems do it too." I would think with a system as good as the PS4, a system selling as well as the PS4 would gives Cows all they need to be the "better" faction. Instead they are the faction that instigates silly fights and ignores the rules of the board. There are not many Lems or Sheep left in System Wars, so most of the time Cows go unchecked. In fact all Cows had to do was follow the rules set last gen and they would be king here. Unfortunately so many of them have a complex after getting owned most of last gen. Indies are now great, buying exclusives is cool and multiplat sales mean something........ Winning sales and having better graphics is all Cows needed to own Lems this gen but they got greedy.
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Cows never got owned last gen. Even $599 still saw a rebound and sales that are al least on same level as 360 with a YEAR less out. That's impressive
Then you add in the exclusives and what SONY did in 2013 to support the PS4 and what MS didn't do to support the 360 and SONY was primed for success in gen 8.
I'm installing on X1 btw, so if you need to add me to it, do it and we'll try and play. BroknOath,
@GoldenElementXL: well, I can understand where you're coming from, but it does deserve to be said that you will drive yourself crazy keeping up with what the ardent hardcore fanboys do. That goes for all factions. I guess I just don't get wrapped up in people who cannot accept ownage and this generation is a perfect example of why.
To accept that Sony has taken lessons learned the hard way last gen with the XBox seems to challenge the Cows notion that everything Sony does is mystically magical and changes the dialogue that Sony "actually did everything right" with the PS3. It takes a pretty special level of stupid for someone to take a look at all the things the PS4 is and then make a case that the same design philosophy that made the PS3 is in play whatsoever. But there you have it, die-hard Cow logic at its finest.
However, I guess you could say my main sticking point, other than the fact I don't trust XBox in gaming any more than I can pick up Phil Spencer and use him as a lawn dart is that the Lems have some serious industrial grade comeuppance this generation. They absolutely let MS get away with murder last gen. I won't harp on the studio closures and letting Bungie go any more than you know I already have, but rebranding themselves as a Kinect family friendly half ass Nintendo while exclusive releases slow to a crawl was totally okay. You know it. I know it. We were all there for it. No one called out MS on anything from within and they got the XBone as a result. It takes a religious amount of fanboyism to see things going badly and ask for more, but as long as NPD went their way, they fell to the altar of XBox on bended knee.
There's a saying. "Play silly games, win silly prizes." The XBox One was precisely that and the Lems that stuck around gave their rubber stamp to everything from DRM to mandatory Kinect and even to this day the idiots want to bring Cloud or DX12 into conversations about game performance because they are simps who don't dare bite the hand that feeds them.
So, all things equal, if you get tied up in what these super freak fanboys do or say, please don't point fingers at just one fanbase or the other. There is absolutely no shortage of it on both sides here and to claim one is better than the other only betrays your own bias.
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