Believe it or not! The FORMAT WAR OF THE CENTURY Netflix vs Blu Ray...

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#51 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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BT and virgin media are going to use fibre optics to increase download speeds, but that will take years and years.NinjaMunkey01
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/30/blu-ray-the-future-has-been-delayed/ BR is taking its sweet time as well :P
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#52 Big_Boss465
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I only buy movies that I have already seen and will watch over and over again. There aren't many films or tv show that are replayable that is why I value netflix over buying films that are only worth one viewing, Blu-ray I guess. Plus I can rent Blu-rays from Netflix as well as digitally download now. It is kind of a silly comparison I think. You are really only comparing renting vs buying in a way. I guess I'm not entirely sure how to respond. Go Netflix?
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#53 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I don't want to have to lug the entire console or some such.

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Presumably, at some point, a flash drive would be a potential way to take something. And easier.
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#54 DrEru
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>And I, myself fall into that category. But we still use it, and as long as there is a demand for bills, they aren't going anywhere. I guess that's my point. DD may find a place amongst many, even a majority, but it will never eliminate the demand for physical copies

I will happily concede that. I suppose the difference will be in the level of profitability of producing physical copies. The demand will not be eliminated, but will be significantly eroded. Given this it is much less likely for companies to invest in new physical formats. An example of this is LP's. Analogue recording of information has been largely superceded by digital recording so we aren't (currently) seeing any further development of vinyl-like formats. Although they have become obsolete they are still sought after by a minority.

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#55 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="shadyd1717"]

Hard copy > no copy.

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You people are stuck in the past. Soft copy > Hard copy.

If some kind of failure happens with the company, or something happens with the website/server, or my hardrive messes up, with a hardcopy you always have a backup, you cant say that with digital stuff, hard copy is much safer, it's always there, and i'm one of those people that when I buy something, i like to have it in my hand i feel like i actually bought it.

I agree but if digital distributors let you download whatever you have paid for before, for example a live arcade game, if for some reason my harddrive kicks the bucket, I can download everything again for free. then losing things won't be an issue, sure you have to download it again, but you will live, cool thing on the xbox is that you can donwload stuff and turn off the system and it will continue doing so, its not like you have to be there watching it download. :)

does that make any sense? :D

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does that make any sense? :D

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Also, if your house burns down or your dvds are stolen, you can still re-download them.
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Netflix is a format now? What?

ANd last I checked, Netflix offers BR and was one of the first companies to chose bR exclusively over HD-DVD.

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Netflix is a format now? What?ZIMdoom
I think he was using netflix as an idea :roll:
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I dont know. Downloading movies still takes kind of a long time, and not everyone has a fast internet connection. Also, I cant see anyone with an on-demand service choosing to wait two hours to download a movie in HD when they could do it with the click of a button on cable. DLM are interesting, but if I buy a movie, I want a physical copy, and if I rent a movie it will be from the comfort of my couch.
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#60 HarlockJC
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Netflix is a format now? What?

ANd last I checked, Netflix offers BR and was one of the first companies to chose bR exclusively over HD-DVD.

ZIMdoom

You would be correct. I have had Netflix for like 6 years now.

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I dont know. Downloading movies still takes kind of a long time, and not everyone has a fast internet connection. Also, I cant see anyone with an on-demand service choosing to wait two hours to download a movie in HD when they could do it with the click of a button on cable. DLM are interesting, but if I buy a movie, I want a physical copy, and if I rent a movie it will be from the comfort of my couch.Darthmatt

You do not download Netflix videos they are streamed to you.

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#62 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I'm a big film geek and I have to admit that special edition packaging is part of what makes the hobby fun. The LOTR "book" design on the SEE dvd's. The blade runner that came in a suitcase. You can't get that kind of geeky fun from a digital download. I know its not a big reason but its a novelty that I don't want to lose entirely. Heck I stll love looking through the booklets that come with CD's. Check out the lyrics. The design on the CD. Its all part of the product if you ask me. Not just the music or the movie.

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Oh, I'm sure they'll still have Limited Edition hard copy stuff for the collector.

or maybe you purchase your DD movie and you get a collectors package sent UPS? why not? companies will still save money not having to package every disk, and not everyone will care or want anything extra, but when you have it in a store, there is no guarantee that all of them will sell.

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#63 thrones
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No..

Blu-ray = World Wide

Netflix = America only

Blu-ray wins for most of the world.

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[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]I dont know. Downloading movies still takes kind of a long time, and not everyone has a fast internet connection. Also, I cant see anyone with an on-demand service choosing to wait two hours to download a movie in HD when they could do it with the click of a button on cable. DLM are interesting, but if I buy a movie, I want a physical copy, and if I rent a movie it will be from the comfort of my couch.HarlockJC

You do not download Netflix videos they are streamed to you.

On the computer or onto the TV? Because the only advantage I see that has over an on-demand service is netflix has a greater movie library.
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

does that make any sense? :D

Jandurin

Also, if your house burns down or your DVDs are stolen, you can still re-download them.

yaaa because when people see their house on fire there DVD collection is there 1st priority :roll:

Or when they return to find out that they have been robbed they are thinking " damn i hope he didnt take my 300 DVD" :roll:

(since if you were robbed you would have no computer, tv left to watch it on anyway) :P

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

does that make any sense? :D

micky4889

Also, if your house burns down or your DVDs are stolen, you can still re-download them.

yaaa because when people see their house on fire there DVD collection is there 1st priority :roll:

Or when they return to find out that they have been robbed they are thinking " damn i hope he didnt take my 300 DVD" :roll:

(since if you were robbed you would have no computer, tv left to watch it on anyway) :P

People put a lot of stock in their collections.
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Believe it or not, it will never take off with the mass market. Why? Bandwidth caps from ISPs. Downloads taking over are a thing of the future, not the present. Whoever thinks DLs are now is just ignorant. I'm not wasting a significant amount of my 60GB bandwidth on my movies.Albanian_Killa

as more people jump on the DD bandwagon, providers will find a way to make it easier for people. remember where ever the masses go, companies will follow to get a piece of the pie.

things might not be perfect or easy, but things will get better, dont they always?

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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]I dont know. Downloading movies still takes kind of a long time, and not everyone has a fast internet connection. Also, I cant see anyone with an on-demand service choosing to wait two hours to download a movie in HD when they could do it with the click of a button on cable. DLM are interesting, but if I buy a movie, I want a physical copy, and if I rent a movie it will be from the comfort of my couch.Darthmatt

You do not download Netflix videos they are streamed to you.

On the computer or onto the TV? Because the only advantage I see that has over an on-demand service is netflix has a greater movie library.

Well when I watch it, I watch it on my computer. There really not much on it I like besides the old Doctor Whos and some old anime.

When I go click on it here a list of the new movies Cashback, The Year my Parents went on, Chop Shop, Never Forever, and the wild Parrots of telegraph hill. I have never heard of any of those.

But getting Netflix DVDs beats Blockbuster anyday of the week my wife watches Bollywood ,I watch the anime and I get a lot of kids movies for my kids.

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#70 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="Paul_Phoenicks"]It's not like Netflix won't start stocking Blu Ray movies... I don't see how this is a "format war"?Bread_or_Decide

true, but i'll admit this, if I have an option of paying 15-20 bucks a month, whatever netflix charges, and I can watch any movie I want any time, I rather do that than spend 20-35 bucks a pop for a dvd or b-ray movie. I'll miss the extras on the disk, but honestly how many people even pay attention to the extras, and how many people actually watch the extras more than once?

You can rent the extras disc as well as the main feature.

yeah, how silly of me not to think of that? sorry I just woke up, lol.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

does that make any sense? :D

micky4889

Also, if your house burns down or your DVDs are stolen, you can still re-download them.

yaaa because when people see their house on fire there DVD collection is there 1st priority :roll:

Or when they return to find out that they have been robbed they are thinking " damn i hope he didnt take my 300 DVD" :roll:

(since if you were robbed you would have no computer, tv left to watch it on anyway) :P

you are right, but at some point, I will shed some tears over losing it. :(

so :P

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#72 LEGEND_C4A
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I love this, no anger, no name calling, maybe we should always just talk about netflix and not video games, lol.

I don't think I've ever seen a post in this site with people agreeing and disagreeing about things and not hating each other.

kudos gentelmen! 8)

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I love this, no anger, no name calling, maybe we should always just talk about netflix and not video games, lol.

I don't think I've ever seen a post in this site with people agreeing and disagreeing about things and not hating each other.

kudos gentelmen! 8)

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[QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

does that make any sense? :D

LEGEND_C4A

Also, if your house burns down or your DVDs are stolen, you can still re-download them.

yaaa because when people see their house on fire there DVD collection is there 1st priority :roll:

Or when they return to find out that they have been robbed they are thinking " damn i hope he didnt take my 300 DVD" :roll:

(since if you were robbed you would have no computer, tv left to watch it on anyway) :P

you are right, but at some point, I will shed some tears over losing it. :(

so :P

I use to be like you and care about my DVDs. After having Netflix for so many years I can't tell you the last time I bought a DVD. It really is nice just ordering anything you want. Watching whole seasons of shows or really rare movies. I have more than once though of just selling off my DVDs because of the space they take.

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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

I love this, no anger, no name calling, maybe we should always just talk about netflix and not video games, lol.

I don't think I've ever seen a post in this site with people agreeing and disagreeing about things and not hating each other.

kudos gentelmen! 8)

Jandurin

Probably because half the site is suspended right now.

damn true!

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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="micky4889"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

does that make any sense? :D

HarlockJC

Also, if your house burns down or your DVDs are stolen, you can still re-download them.

yaaa because when people see their house on fire there DVD collection is there 1st priority :roll:

Or when they return to find out that they have been robbed they are thinking " damn i hope he didnt take my 300 DVD" :roll:

(since if you were robbed you would have no computer, tv left to watch it on anyway) :P

you are right, but at some point, I will shed some tears over losing it. :(

so :P

I use to be like you and care about my DVDs. After having Netflix for so many years I can't tell you the last time I bought a DVD. It really is nice just ordering anything you want. Watching whole seasons of shows or really rare movies. I have more than once though of just selling off my DVDs because of the space they take.

yes, I love my DVD's thats a lot of money I put into it. I don't have as many as other people, just about 200, but when netflix launches, I'm done spending money on DVD's, well maybe.

shoot, gamefly is saving my ass when it comes to saving some money, even though I still spend 1000's a year on my system, I can only imagine how much more I'm saving cause of gamefly.

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Digital downloads are the way of the future.. Flash drives for instance are becoming huge, at least 38gb's in the public sector.. Add that up and it shows that blueray or DVD's for that matter is a dieing animal when it comes to format.. And they will be pushed because its harder to pirate, not to mention the used game industries would not be able to take a bite out of the profit like they do now.
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[QUOTE="dabigsiebowski"]Digital downloads are becoming vastly popular now with Itunes, Netflix, and Gametap and even the Wii. Do you think Microsoft just started another format war? Now giving the facts that Blu Ray is 1080P and thats a rather big file for a download. But what I also find interesting is a hard drive has a lot faster load times than a Blu Ray. This is going to be a gigantic battle this generation considering Blu Ray has already takin out HD DVD. Whats your thaughts?micky4889

Digital downloads will not take over for blu-ray/dvd although they will be popular

1) people always feel the need to own a copy on a media they can take with them and call their own just look at the CD its still around despite the Internet filled with sites where you can download cheap mp3s

2) Internet speeds just are not there to allow Digital downloads to become mainstream just go to speed test .net where the average speed in the U.S is only 4mb, 3mb europe

I prefer mp3 to cd man, I buy 5 cds a year, I buy 50 albums worth of mp3s and I'm being light

I could care less about owning a hard copy of a movie, I prefer to own the file on a HDD. Besides, I already own over 600 dvds so I really see no need to collect more of them. Ieven have 30 HDDVDs and while they were great at first, I just don't see a big enough difference to justify buying more into bluray than I have already

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[QUOTE="micky4889"]

[QUOTE="dabigsiebowski"]Digital downloads are becoming vastly popular now with Itunes, Netflix, and Gametap and even the Wii. Do you think Microsoft just started another format war? Now giving the facts that Blu Ray is 1080P and thats a rather big file for a download. But what I also find interesting is a hard drive has a lot faster load times than a Blu Ray. This is going to be a gigantic battle this generation considering Blu Ray has already takin out HD DVD. Whats your thaughts?mtron32

Digital downloads will not take over for blu-ray/dvd although they will be popular

1) people always feel the need to own a copy on a media they can take with them and call their own just look at the CD its still around despite the Internet filled with sites where you can download cheap mp3s

2) Internet speeds just are not there to allow Digital downloads to become mainstream just go to speed test .net where the average speed in the U.S is only 4mb, 3mb europe

I prefer mp3 to cd man, I buy 5 cds a year, I buy 50 albums worth of mp3s and I'm being light

I could care less about owning a hard copy of a movie, I prefer to own the file on a HDD. Besides, I already own over 600 dvds so I really see no need to collect more of them. Ieven have 30 HDDVDs and while they were great at first, I just don't see a big enough difference to justify buying more into bluray than I have already

Yeah and I was at best buy and target yesterday and Blu Ray movies are just really expensive. I wonder what the cost is for just the disc itself.