Besides mods, graphics, and emulators what makes PC gaming so great??

  • 89 results
  • 1
  • 2

This topic is locked from further discussion.

Avatar image for IWKYB
IWKYB

1545

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#51 IWKYB
Member since 2010 • 1545 Posts

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.linkthewindow
You're forgetting pre-owned games, which cause quite a bit of damage too (and are pretty much only a console thing.)

Still nothing compared to Piracy on the PC. The Piracy only hurts the PC users more by company's giving up on them and going console exclusive DRM remember that little stunt Ubisoft is pulling? Yeah...

This.. Blame Gamestop for pre-owned games and shaddy 4 dollars off deals.

Avatar image for IWKYB
IWKYB

1545

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#52 IWKYB
Member since 2010 • 1545 Posts

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] RROD, console games have plenty of glitches, thats your fault, consoles get plenty of piracy also.Bebi_vegeta

The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.

This has nothing to do with with that the TC said... Why you're even talking about it in this topic?

Read the previous post that said what doesn't make PC's great. I replied. That is all.
Avatar image for AdrianWerner
AdrianWerner

28441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#53 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts

Still nothing compared to Piracy on the PC.

IWKYB

Not really, it's already a huge problem and one growing bigger and bigger each year. It also has potential to be far more damaging than piracy ever was.

At least with piracy it's illegal and not widely avaible, while used games compete with new ones in the same stores.

Half of people who played Gears of War on Xbox360 didn't pay Epic for it.Gamestop alone made 2,4 bilion $ last year on sales of used games, 400 mln more than the year before. And unlike piracy's hypotetical "money lost" here the money was truly lost, as without used games it would have been used to buy new games

Avatar image for Bebi_vegeta
Bebi_vegeta

13558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#54 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.

IWKYB

This has nothing to do with with that the TC said... Why you're even talking about it in this topic?

Read the previous post that said what doesn't make PC's great. I replied. That is all.

How does piracy affect the user?

Avatar image for omarguy01
omarguy01

8139

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#55 omarguy01
Member since 2004 • 8139 Posts
more exclusives, games are much cheaper, steam, sales, infinite backwards compatibility, better and more variety of controls, non gaming tasks, greater control over the game. ferret-gamer
/thread
Avatar image for IWKYB
IWKYB

1545

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#56 IWKYB
Member since 2010 • 1545 Posts

[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

This has nothing to do with with that the TC said... Why you're even talking about it in this topic?

Bebi_vegeta

Read the previous post that said what doesn't make PC's great. I replied. That is all.

How does piracy affect the user?

Well if you have principles PIRACY is a problem. I never said it affected YOU directlu I said what doesn't make it great.

Avatar image for Bebi_vegeta
Bebi_vegeta

13558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#57 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"] Read the previous post that said what doesn't make PC's great. I replied. That is all.IWKYB

How does piracy affect the user?

Well if you have principles PIRACY is a problem. I never said it affected YOU directlu I said what doesn't make it great.

I'll ask again, how does it affect the user? I'm here to play games, and games I play.

Avatar image for Valiant_Rebel
Valiant_Rebel

4197

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#58 Valiant_Rebel
Member since 2009 • 4197 Posts

[QUOTE="linkthewindow"][QUOTE="IWKYB"]The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.IWKYB

You're forgetting pre-owned games, which cause quite a bit of damage too (and are pretty much only a console thing.)

Still nothing compared to Piracy on the PC. The Piracy only hurts the PC users more by company's giving up on them and going console exclusive DRM remember that little stunt Ubisoft is pulling? Yeah...

This.. Blame Gamestop for pre-owned games and shaddy 4 dollars off deals.

Ubisoft owns rights to a PC exclusive. I do not think they will want PC to die as long as they have that IP. They know about piracy, but yet they are still releasing games for PC.

Also, who went console exclusive?

Avatar image for Suffca
Suffca

666

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#59 Suffca
Member since 2008 • 666 Posts

[QUOTE="IWKYB"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

This has nothing to do with with that the TC said... Why you're even talking about it in this topic?

Bebi_vegeta

Read the previous post that said what doesn't make PC's great. I replied. That is all.

How does piracy affect the user?

DRM?

Avatar image for blackgamer1213
blackgamer1213

413

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#60 blackgamer1213
Member since 2008 • 413 Posts

To the TC, I question you...

Besides simplicity, what makes console gaming so great?

Mystic-G

Well...I wouldn't say console gaming is "great" but I'll list some reasons some prefer it. 1. They're better for local multiplayer gameplay 360 supports 4 controllers PS3 supports 7. 2. I can sit on my couch and play say....Battlefield BC2 were as on the PC I have to have a chair near to my monitor I mean I can't exactly use keyboard and mouse on my lap. And....that's pretty much it everything else I could say falls under simplicity you got me.

BTW nice signature lmao.

Avatar image for Mazoch
Mazoch

2473

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 0

#61 Mazoch
Member since 2004 • 2473 Posts

I'm not trying to flame or anything. But I have been looking into this but I mean PC Gaming is like a foreign country to a person who has been a console gamer all their life. So I'm wondering what makes it worth me building a rig, and just you know start PC gaming besides mods, graphics and emulators.

blackgamer1213

There are a lot of different reasons why I prefer PC Gaming. Here are a couple of examples.

Mods

While you mention mods in your post, you're not really going to be able to truly appreciate just what that means until you've really tried it. Mods have allowed otherwise mediocre games to become some of the best games of all times on the platform (STALKER, saw huge improvements due to fan made mods, Fan made mods and patches made Vampire the Masquerade one of the best VRPGs, mods have allows players to make a massively multiplayer version of GTA: San Andreas, dozens of players playing gang warfare in GTA:SA, that's huge!

Oblivion is a great rpg on both the PC and the X360, however mods on the PC allows you to customize every aspect of the game. You can change the leveling system, the skill system, download hundreds of different types of armor and weapons, hundreds of new quests and dungeons, mods allow you the train and fly dragons. The mods for Oblivion alone offers more content than all DLC available for the X360 and the PS3 added together.. and the mods are free.. And you can find the same amount of new, free content for Fallout3, and for the source engine and for the unreal engine.

Mods are not just only small tweaks to a game; it's a lot more than teenagers adding naked breasts to their games. It's one of the best ways for would be game developers to creatively reinvent the games they love. Sometimes the result sucks, sometimes it makes the original game look dull and half finished.

Indie Games

All the platforms have indie games, but the PC is the true home of indie developers of all shades and colors. This means that you see some of the truly surprising, odd, inventive and strange games here. From great small arcade games to games that are barely games but more experiments in interactive story telling like 'The Path' a surrealistic retelling of the adventure of Red Riding Hood or the Graveyard, a small 'game' that simply puts you in the shoes of an old person visiting lost friends and family in a graveyard, for there you got games like World of Goo and Audio surf, Crayon Physics Deluxe. Each of these is great games that help reinvent game mechanics and offer new and interesting game mechanics. Braid was a huge hit on the X360 and each of these games have the same kind of surprising quality and imagination that made Braid such a hit.

Scale and Scope

The PC offers a lot of different games that are HUGE compared to anything on the consoles. This is not always a good thing, it obviously depend on the game, your preferences and what you're in the mood for. But you only find games like X3 on the PC, a massive space simulator where you can fly everything from small one person scout ships to massive battleships. You an even amass fleets of ships and control your own armada of space ships. The games allows you to work as a pirate or a bounty hunter, or forget about combat and focus on running trade between systems and stations, buy high and sell low. Still not enough to do? Build your own space stations, factories, set up trade routes. Assign ships to guard your growing empire. There's also a regular 'campaign' but to be honest there's so much to do that you might not care.

Games like civilization (not the simplified console version), develop your civilization, path it's research, its political system, engage in diplomacy or warfare, build world wonders. Convert you enemy by warfare… or religion... or culture. It's a game that embodies the idea of easy to learn but hard to master.

Or the Total War Series. A game where you can literally have thousands of soldiers onscreen at a time, control huge armies of dozens of factions. Watch your artillery bombard the enemy line while your cavalry moves to flak your enemy. All of it in graphics that matches the best you'll find on any platform.

Now this doesn't not necessarily make these games better than some of the recent shooting / action games. You can get most of those on all platforms. A few are exclusive most are available to all. However, while you can get plenty of shooters and action games on the PC, you cannot get the big, complex style games on the consoles. Without a PC you're excluded from the most complex and in-depth game experience.

Huge library

The PC have a HUGE library. If you're willing to accept outdated graphics there's thousands of games available, some of them offering game play that is still unmatched in games since (games like Deus Ex, Planscape Torment, Ur-Quan Masters (Formerly Star Control 2)). Many of these can be bought for a couple of dollars or gotten free, and they offer as good (or better) a game play experience as anything available in the stores today.

There are plenty of other reasons. The PC have genres that just doesn't exist on the consoles, the PC have the capacity for better graphics (though it always depend on the game).

The other stuff

The PC can do a lot more than just play games. Sure you can watch movies on a console, you can do the same on a PC, in addition you can surf the next, word processing, picture editing, make a web page, talk to friends and family, work / home work, read the news, research whatever you want.. you know... everything you can do on a computer. Heck, in this day and age you more or less have to have a computer, why not get a decent one, that way you also get access to the most advanced gaming platform available :)

Avatar image for roxlimn
roxlimn

1104

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#62 roxlimn
Member since 2003 • 1104 Posts

Wireless keyboard and mouse for the win.

Avatar image for Bebi_vegeta
Bebi_vegeta

13558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#63 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="IWKYB"] Read the previous post that said what doesn't make PC's great. I replied. That is all.Suffca

How does piracy affect the user?

DRM?

Never had any issues with Steam. DRM seems to be over complained...

Avatar image for roxlimn
roxlimn

1104

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#64 roxlimn
Member since 2003 • 1104 Posts

[QUOTE="blackgamer1213"]

I'm not trying to flame or anything. But I have been looking into this but I mean PC Gaming is like a foreign country to a person who has been a console gamer all their life. So I'm wondering what makes it worth me building a rig, and just you know start PC gaming besides mods, graphics and emulators.

Mazoch

There are a lot of different reasons why I prefer PC Gaming. Here are a couple of examples.

Mods

While you mention mods in your post, you're not really going to be able to truly appreciate just what that means until you've really tried it. Mods have allowed otherwise mediocre games to become some of the best games of all times on the platform (STALKER, saw huge improvements due to fan made mods, Fan made mods and patches made Vampire the Masquerade one of the best VRPGs, mods have allows players to make a massively multiplayer version of GTA: San Andreas, dozens of players playing gang warfare in GTA:SA, that's huge!

Oblivion is a great rpg on both the PC and the X360, however mods on the PC allows you to customize every aspect of the game. You can change the leveling system, the skill system, download hundreds of different types of armor and weapons, hundreds of new quests and dungeons, mods allow you the train and fly dragons. The mods for Oblivion alone offers more content than all DLC available for the X360 and the PS3 added together.. and the mods are free.. And you can find the same amount of new, free content for Fallout3, and for the source engine and for the unreal engine.

Mods are not just only small tweaks to a game; it's a lot more than teenagers adding naked breasts to their games. It's one of the best ways for would be game developers to creatively reinvent the games they love. Sometimes the result sucks, sometimes it makes the original game look dull and half finished.

Indie Games

All the platforms have indie games, but the PC is the true home of indie developers of all shades and colors. This means that you see some of the truly surprising, odd, inventive and strange games here. From great small arcade games to games that are barely games but more experiments in interactive story telling like 'The Path' a surrealistic retelling of the adventure of Red Riding Hood or the Graveyard, a small 'game' that simply puts you in the shoes of an old person visiting lost friends and family in a graveyard, for there you got games like World of Goo and Audio surf, Crayon Physics Deluxe. Each of these is great games that help reinvent game mechanics and offer new and interesting game mechanics. Braid was a huge hit on the X360 and each of these games have the same kind of surprising quality and imagination that made Braid such a hit.

Scale and Scope

The PC offers a lot of different games that are HUGE compared to anything on the consoles. This is not always a good thing, it obviously depend on the game, your preferences and what you're in the mood for. But you only find games like X3 on the PC, a massive space simulator where you can fly everything from small one person scout ships to massive battleships. You an even amass fleets of ships and control your own armada of space ships. The games allows you to work as a pirate or a bounty hunter, or forget about combat and focus on running trade between systems and stations, buy high and sell low. Still not enough to do? Build your own space stations, factories, set up trade routes. Assign ships to guard your growing empire. There's also a regular 'campaign' but to be honest there's so much to do that you might not care.

Games like civilization (not the simplified console version), develop your civilization, path it's research, its political system, engage in diplomacy or warfare, build world wonders. Convert you enemy by warfare… or religion... or culture. It's a game that embodies the idea of easy to learn but hard to master.

Or the Total War Series. A game where you can literally have thousands of soldiers onscreen at a time, control huge armies of dozens of factions. Watch your artillery bombard the enemy line while your cavalry moves to flak your enemy. All of it in graphics that matches the best you'll find on any platform.

Now this doesn't not necessarily make these games better than some of the recent shooting / action games. You can get most of those on all platforms. A few are exclusive most are available to all. However, while you can get plenty of shooters and action games on the PC, you cannot get the big, complex style games on the consoles. Without a PC you're excluded from the most complex and in-depth game experience.

Huge library

The PC have a HUGE library. If you're willing to accept outdated graphics there's thousands of games available, some of them offering game play that is still unmatched in games since (games like Deus Ex, Planscape Torment, Ur-Quan Masters (Formerly Star Control 2)). Many of these can be bought for a couple of dollars or gotten free, and they offer as good (or better) a game play experience as anything available in the stores today.

There are plenty of other reasons. The PC have genres that just doesn't exist on the consoles, the PC have the capacity for better graphics (though it always depend on the game).

The other stuff

The PC can do a lot more than just play games. Sure you can watch movies on a console, you can do the same on a PC, in addition you can surf the next, word processing, picture editing, make a web page, talk to friends and family, work / home work, read the news, research whatever you want.. you know... everything you can do on a computer. Heck, in this day and age you more or less have to have a computer, why not get a decent one, that way you also get access to the most advanced gaming platform available :)

Your forgot Communities. The Civ Fanatics and Apolyton communities not only contain hundreds of new unit skins, graphics mod, and new campaigns and game ideas - they also contain some of the most awesome communities for any game. If you want a parallel game, you can find that. Need strategic coaching? Also there. Competitive Civ? Also there. Just want to hang out and discuss Civ? There, too. There's a minimum of trolling and virtually no 12 year olds screaming obscenities at you. It's really, really good.
Avatar image for arto1223
arto1223

4412

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#65 arto1223
Member since 2005 • 4412 Posts

[QUOTE="brickdoctor"]

Lol, that's like saying "Without free online, exclusives, and Blu Ray, what makes thePS3 so great?" :P

blackgamer1213

Lol I realize the tight spot I put PC gaming fans in but I really want to be convinced. Because I have looked up mods and a lot of them were like so so. Maybe I'm looking at this the wrong way.

No not really. There are many more reasons why PC gaming is the best. The three things the guy you just quoted are all things PCs can do BTW. There is nothing that a console can do that a PC can't do and ther are so many things that a PC can do that a console can't do.

Avatar image for blackgamer1213
blackgamer1213

413

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#66 blackgamer1213
Member since 2008 • 413 Posts

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] RROD, console games have plenty of glitches, thats your fault, consoles get plenty of piracy also.Bebi_vegeta

The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.

This has nothing to do with with that the TC said... Why you're even talking about it in this topic?

Thanks man!

Avatar image for KungfuKitten
KungfuKitten

27389

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 42

User Lists: 0

#67 KungfuKitten
Member since 2006 • 27389 Posts

Legal free games that are fun. It has obscure japanese games for yandere. You can order the games online. Support/patching is more elaborate. Turning settings to high feels very good and generates more awesome. FPS and RTS work best on PC (wiimote rules too, but no great FPS for it). People don't use a mic that often. Games cost less. You are going to have a PC anyway.

Negatives: People don't use a mic that often. PC's can get really slow or crash/they require more attention. Not all games have achievements/keep track of a 'gamerscore' or allow chatting with friends (steam) while playing. Cost of rig(no You can't convince me it's cheap despite the lovely newegg links).

Avatar image for blackgamer1213
blackgamer1213

413

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#68 blackgamer1213
Member since 2008 • 413 Posts

[QUOTE="blackgamer1213"]

I'm not trying to flame or anything. But I have been looking into this but I mean PC Gaming is like a foreign country to a person who has been a console gamer all their life. So I'm wondering what makes it worth me building a rig, and just you know start PC gaming besides mods, graphics and emulators.

Mazoch

There are a lot of different reasons why I prefer PC Gaming. Here are a couple of examples.

Mods

While you mention mods in your post, you're not really going to be able to truly appreciate just what that means until you've really tried it. Mods have allowed otherwise mediocre games to become some of the best games of all times on the platform (STALKER, saw huge improvements due to fan made mods, Fan made mods and patches made Vampire the Masquerade one of the best VRPGs, mods have allows players to make a massively multiplayer version of GTA: San Andreas, dozens of players playing gang warfare in GTA:SA, that's huge!

Oblivion is a great rpg on both the PC and the X360, however mods on the PC allows you to customize every aspect of the game. You can change the leveling system, the skill system, download hundreds of different types of armor and weapons, hundreds of new quests and dungeons, mods allow you the train and fly dragons. The mods for Oblivion alone offers more content than all DLC available for the X360 and the PS3 added together.. and the mods are free.. And you can find the same amount of new, free content for Fallout3, and for the source engine and for the unreal engine.

Mods are not just only small tweaks to a game; it's a lot more than teenagers adding naked breasts to their games. It's one of the best ways for would be game developers to creatively reinvent the games they love. Sometimes the result sucks, sometimes it makes the original game look dull and half finished.

Indie Games

All the platforms have indie games, but the PC is the true home of indie developers of all shades and colors. This means that you see some of the truly surprising, odd, inventive and strange games here. From great small arcade games to games that are barely games but more experiments in interactive story telling like 'The Path' a surrealistic retelling of the adventure of Red Riding Hood or the Graveyard, a small 'game' that simply puts you in the shoes of an old person visiting lost friends and family in a graveyard, for there you got games like World of Goo and Audio surf, Crayon Physics Deluxe. Each of these is great games that help reinvent game mechanics and offer new and interesting game mechanics. Braid was a huge hit on the X360 and each of these games have the same kind of surprising quality and imagination that made Braid such a hit.

Scale and Scope

The PC offers a lot of different games that are HUGE compared to anything on the consoles. This is not always a good thing, it obviously depend on the game, your preferences and what you're in the mood for. But you only find games like X3 on the PC, a massive space simulator where you can fly everything from small one person scout ships to massive battleships. You an even amass fleets of ships and control your own armada of space ships. The games allows you to work as a pirate or a bounty hunter, or forget about combat and focus on running trade between systems and stations, buy high and sell low. Still not enough to do? Build your own space stations, factories, set up trade routes. Assign ships to guard your growing empire. There's also a regular 'campaign' but to be honest there's so much to do that you might not care.

Games like civilization (not the simplified console version), develop your civilization, path it's research, its political system, engage in diplomacy or warfare, build world wonders. Convert you enemy by warfare… or religion... or culture. It's a game that embodies the idea of easy to learn but hard to master.

Or the Total War Series. A game where you can literally have thousands of soldiers onscreen at a time, control huge armies of dozens of factions. Watch your artillery bombard the enemy line while your cavalry moves to flak your enemy. All of it in graphics that matches the best you'll find on any platform.

Now this doesn't not necessarily make these games better than some of the recent shooting / action games. You can get most of those on all platforms. A few are exclusive most are available to all. However, while you can get plenty of shooters and action games on the PC, you cannot get the big, complex style games on the consoles. Without a PC you're excluded from the most complex and in-depth game experience.

Huge library

The PC have a HUGE library. If you're willing to accept outdated graphics there's thousands of games available, some of them offering game play that is still unmatched in games since (games like Deus Ex, Planscape Torment, Ur-Quan Masters (Formerly Star Control 2)). Many of these can be bought for a couple of dollars or gotten free, and they offer as good (or better) a game play experience as anything available in the stores today.

There are plenty of other reasons. The PC have genres that just doesn't exist on the consoles, the PC have the capacity for better graphics (though it always depend on the game).

The other stuff

The PC can do a lot more than just play games. Sure you can watch movies on a console, you can do the same on a PC, in addition you can surf the next, word processing, picture editing, make a web page, talk to friends and family, work / home work, read the news, research whatever you want.. you know... everything you can do on a computer. Heck, in this day and age you more or less have to have a computer, why not get a decent one, that way you also get access to the most advanced gaming platform available :)

You are so awesome for posting such a thorough post, thanks man!!!

Avatar image for IWKYB
IWKYB

1545

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#69 IWKYB
Member since 2010 • 1545 Posts

[QUOTE="Suffca"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

How does piracy affect the user?

Bebi_vegeta

DRM?

Never had any issues with Steam. DRM seems to be over complained...

The latest thing DRM messed up PC gaming with...

Ubisoft DRM servers down? Yes DRM is over complained...and PC gaming is perfect cheap and you don't have to upgrade every 3 years...

Avatar image for Valiant_Rebel
Valiant_Rebel

4197

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#70 Valiant_Rebel
Member since 2009 • 4197 Posts

and PC gaming is perfect cheap and you don't have to upgrade every 3 years...

IWKYB

Well you don't. :|

Avatar image for roxlimn
roxlimn

1104

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#71 roxlimn
Member since 2003 • 1104 Posts

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Suffca"] DRM?

IWKYB

Never had any issues with Steam. DRM seems to be over complained...

The latest thing DRM messed up PC gaming with...

Ubisoft DRM servers down? Yes DRM is over complained...and PC gaming is perfect cheap and you don't have to upgrade every 3 years...

Eh? You don't, you know. Are you an actual PC gamer or are you just talking nonsense?

Avatar image for chrion133
chrion133

847

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#72 chrion133
Member since 2007 • 847 Posts

Better games, with more depth and lasting value.

Avatar image for lespaul1919
lespaul1919

7074

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#73 lespaul1919
Member since 2003 • 7074 Posts

gonna go with framerate and mouse.

Avatar image for Ultizer
Ultizer

1037

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#74 Ultizer
Member since 2010 • 1037 Posts

we have blizzard and you dont

Avatar image for lespaul1919
lespaul1919

7074

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#75 lespaul1919
Member since 2003 • 7074 Posts

we have blizzard and you dont

Ultizer

not really a plus man.

Avatar image for millerlight89
millerlight89

18658

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 6

User Lists: 0

#76 millerlight89
Member since 2007 • 18658 Posts

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

we have blizzard and you dont

lespaul1919

not really a plus man.

Actually it is. I know a ton of people that would disagree with you. Of course not that hard to believe.
Avatar image for HuusAsking
HuusAsking

15270

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#77 HuusAsking
Member since 2006 • 15270 Posts

[QUOTE="IWKYB"]

Still nothing compared to Piracy on the PC.

AdrianWerner

Not really, it's already a huge problem and one growing bigger and bigger each year. It also has potential to be far more damaging than piracy ever was.

At least with piracy it's illegal and not widely avaible, while used games compete with new ones in the same stores.

Half of people who played Gears of War on Xbox360 didn't pay Epic for it.Gamestop alone made 2,4 bilion $ last year on sales of used games, 400 mln more than the year before. And unlike piracy's hypotetical "money lost" here the money was truly lost, as without used games it would have been used to buy new games

Not necessarily. What if the price was too high and, without used games, they'd have decided not to game? Anyway, used games are still perfectly legal since the last player forwent the right to play it by selling it: right of first sale.
Avatar image for ronvalencia
ronvalencia

29612

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#78 ronvalencia
Member since 2008 • 29612 Posts

I'm not trying to flame or anything. But I have been looking into this but I mean PC Gaming is like a foreign country to a person who has been a console gamer all their life. So I'm wondering what makes it worth me building a rig, and just you know start PC gaming besides mods, graphics and emulators.

blackgamer1213
1. Mobility for gaming laptops. 2. Claim IT related expenses on income tax. Please contact your tax return agent for further information.
Avatar image for lowe0
lowe0

13692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#79 lowe0
Member since 2004 • 13692 Posts
[QUOTE="IWKYB"]The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.linkthewindow
You're forgetting pre-owned games, which cause quite a bit of damage too (and are pretty much only a console thing.)

Except that, through DLC, you can make some money back off of a 2nd-hand copy. How the hell does one make money back off a pirated copy?
Avatar image for markop2003
markop2003

29917

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#80 markop2003
Member since 2005 • 29917 Posts

I dont think we can include the ability to play emulators or games desgnied for use on anything before 2005. Other wise that would be b/c and wed have to compare pc against the entire playstation, nin and xbox

Respawn-d
Old games should be included in the comparison as if you are asking which you should buy. You would not get a free original Xbox packaged with the 360.
Avatar image for markop2003
markop2003

29917

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#81 markop2003
Member since 2005 • 29917 Posts

[QUOTE="Ultizer"]

we have blizzard and you dont

lespaul1919

not really a plus man.

Yes it is. I know people who would be perfectly happy paying for a PC soleley to play Blizzerd games, just go ask a hardcore Dota or Wow player.
Avatar image for Mystic-G
Mystic-G

6462

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#82 Mystic-G
Member since 2006 • 6462 Posts

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

To the TC, I question you...

Besides simplicity, what makes console gaming so great?

blackgamer1213

Well...I wouldn't say console gaming is "great" but I'll list some reasons some prefer it. 1. They're better for local multiplayer gameplay 360 supports 4 controllers PS3 supports 7. 2. I can sit on my couch and play say....Battlefield BC2 were as on the PC I have to have a chair near to my monitor I mean I can't exactly use keyboard and mouse on my lap. And....that's pretty much it everything else I could say falls under simplicity you got me.

BTW nice signature lmao.

All those controllers that never come in handy. I imagine only a very small percentage ever use more than 2 controllers at once anyway. As for the couch, that doesn't exactly count because you have to think about a guaranteed piece of console gaming, couches aren't provided by consoles, that's a separate luxury.
Avatar image for jun_aka_pekto
jun_aka_pekto

25255

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

#83 jun_aka_pekto
Member since 2010 • 25255 Posts

[QUOTE="blackgamer1213"]

[QUOTE="Mystic-G"]

To the TC, I question you...

Besides simplicity, what makes console gaming so great?

Mystic-G

Well...I wouldn't say console gaming is "great" but I'll list some reasons some prefer it. 1. They're better for local multiplayer gameplay 360 supports 4 controllers PS3 supports 7. 2. I can sit on my couch and play say....Battlefield BC2 were as on the PC I have to have a chair near to my monitor I mean I can't exactly use keyboard and mouse on my lap. And....that's pretty much it everything else I could say falls under simplicity you got me.

BTW nice signature lmao.

All those controllers that never come in handy. I imagine only a very small percentage ever use more than 2 controllers at once anyway. As for the couch, that doesn't exactly count because you have to think about a guaranteed piece of console gaming, couches aren't provided by consoles, that's a separate luxury.

Well, if I really want to push it, my optical mouse (all of them) work just fine on the couch surface. I sometimes played games (mostly flight sims) using a wireless keyboard and mouse. Me splattered on the couch with feet on the cofee table, mouse to my right next to me, the keyboard and joystick to my left. It presents a pretty lazy picture. But it works for me. I mean my daughter would growl at me for hogging the couch (the Wii is hooked up to the same TV). Oh well. Let her growl.

Avatar image for skrat_01
skrat_01

33767

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#84 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts
Not necessarily. What if the price was too high and, without used games, they'd have decided not to game? Anyway, used games are still perfectly legal since the last player forwent the right to play it by selling it: right of first sale.HuusAsking
Problem is 'trade deals' encourage recycling, so gamers can essentially trade multiple games that were bought traded for a new game, which will be traded with another game, for another new one etc. While I am all for second hand goods - I buy quite a few older games second hand, because I like physical copies, major gaming retail chains abuse second hand sales to the extent where it is their primary source of profit by a large margin.
Avatar image for Bebi_vegeta
Bebi_vegeta

13558

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#85 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Suffca"] DRM?

IWKYB

Never had any issues with Steam. DRM seems to be over complained...

The latest thing DRM messed up PC gaming with...

Ubisoft DRM servers down? Yes DRM is over complained...and PC gaming is perfect cheap and you don't have to upgrade every 3 years...

Are you tlaking about AC2?

Yes, it's unfortunate, but then again, same thing can be said about the unifed online service of any consoles ( when it's down, you can't play online).

You upgrade when you want and how much you want, hence you have options.

Avatar image for 04dcarraher
04dcarraher

23858

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2

User Lists: 0

#86 04dcarraher
Member since 2004 • 23858 Posts

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="IWKYB"]

Blue Screen of Death. Glitches and installation fails. Can't play "x" game because of your graphic card, PIRACY although most PC users love that last one.

IWKYB

RROD, console games have plenty of glitches, thats your fault, consoles get plenty of piracy also.

The amount of piracy on the PC cannot be compared to the consoles. Why? It is many times of that of it's profitable cousin. It is like a 50 to 1 thing.

Thats funny, when MW2 was pirated a month before the game was released on Console and was only a week for Pc.........

Plus renting and buying used copies of console games has the same affect as pirating to the companies who made the game.

Avatar image for adamosmaki
adamosmaki

10718

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 2

#87 adamosmaki
Member since 2007 • 10718 Posts
The reasons you said especially mods are already enough reasons imo. Take Crysis for instance if you bought it you have access to over 1000 user created levels at crymod and over 100mods many of which won contest ( like the intel crysis modding contest ) Also note cheaper game prices and most importantly games. There are games that are unigue to pc and cant find on any other platform. Take x3 terran conflict for instance or sins of a solar empire or something more simple like machinarium
Avatar image for AdrianWerner
AdrianWerner

28441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 0

#88 AdrianWerner
Member since 2003 • 28441 Posts

Not necessarily. What if the price was too high and, without used games, they'd have decided not to game? Anyway, used games are still perfectly legal since the last player forwent the right to play it by selling it: right of first sale.HuusAsking
Your argument would make sense couple years ago when people were mostly buying from other people. Nowadays used games are indeed still cheaper than new ones, but the difference isn't anywhere near as big as it shoud be.

Also..yes, it is legal, which is what makes used game sales have potential to be far more damaging in the future than piracy ever was

Avatar image for Mystic-G
Mystic-G

6462

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

#89 Mystic-G
Member since 2006 • 6462 Posts

This thread was a trap to begin with. It's like saying, "What's so great about the internet if you can't talk to anyone or look at pr0n?"

Also, most who have been able to use a mouse + keyboard setup for any RTS, MMO, or any game with shooting in it will agree that it is by far superior than a gamepad. And if we need a gamepad for a fighter or racing game, they only cost like $18+.

Versatility & Freedom is pretty key when it comes to PC gaming.