best graphix console decided by gamespot...no more debating lol

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#1 winner-ps3
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ok so lets get this over and done with for the time being untill the next big game comes out

so if a great dev (interms of graphix) makes a game (Crysis 2) and gamespot (we r using them since this is their website and thats what counts here) says themselves "on 360 crysis 2 is console graphix king" but later also says "crysis 2 is NOT in the league of killzone 3" this is 100% enough to say ps3 IS the console graphix king right? basically crysis 2 is better looking than any other game on 360 but kz3 looks better than that..therefore kz3/ps3 is graphix king. Personally using exclusives to compare what consoles can do makes more sense, but if u wana use multiplats then this can work too...

and yes i know some people say ps3 version of crysis 2 looks worse...whatev.. but what about this, if u go to the lenseofproof.com they have 2 comaprisons, one showing that ps3 version of crysis 2 actaully looks better and another showing kz3 graphix r better than crysis 2

seems pretty simple to me...just saying lol

EDIT quote taken from GS video review of crysis 2

EDIT review said specifically "on ((360)) crysis 2 is console graphix king" therefore crysis 2 is NOT console graphix king on ps3, which means there are ps3 game(s) that look better than it (for those of you saying the kz3 comparison is comparing MP and not graphix) basically without the kz3 statement the point still stands...

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#2 MC3887
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DF>GS. Also, we only use this site for scores.

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#3 millerlight89
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Too bad GS is only 1 OPINION.
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#5 theuncharted34
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except that graphics are purely technical and gamespot saying what game looks best would prove nothing. sites like DF that will do in depth technical comparisons would tell you, not a bunch of journalists. A few posters on system wars look at all the technical aspects and make in depth comparisons but the majority just shout opinions.

and, i will never understand why graphics are the most coveted thing on this site and many others.

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#6 CoolSkAGuy
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Modded Crysis. this is my answer.
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#7 TheColbert
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My favorite this gen would be Final Fantasy XIII. If you take in art style and graphics it truly is the best looking console game. Crysis 2, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3 are all great but Final Fantasy is draw dropping. The environments and characters are like nothing I have ever seen. I am even playing it on the 360 and I heard its even better on the PS3 side.
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#8 lundy86_4
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Unfortunately, even though articles are submitted through editors, there is gonne be a divergence from what a site has stated in the past. Having numerous writers means having numerous opinions.

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#9 AnxietyAttack
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Kevin V is console biased! Don't believe me? Try reading a little bit of his post history sometime, so when it comes to what looks good on both platforms, people shouldn't really put a whole lot of weight into what he says imo.

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#10 Vari3ty
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Modded Crysis. this is my answer.CoolSkAGuy

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

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#11 lundy86_4
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Kevin V is console biased! Don't believe me? Try reading a little bit of his post history sometime, sowhen it comes to what looks good on both platforms people shouldn't really put a whole lot of weight into what he says imo.

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"Kevin V is console biased!"

So he has an opinion, but you insinuate he should be objective, yet you state "imo" as a justification for what you stated. Good God!

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#12 winner-ps3
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nice to c some mature response to this topic, thanx guys! personally i think kz2 looks better in some ways than kz3, and uncharted 2 is amazing too! and yeah ff13 is up there, still got to finish that one
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My favorite this gen would be Final Fantasy XIII. If you take in art style and graphics it truly is the best looking console game. Crysis 2, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3 are all great but Final Fantasy is draw dropping. The environments and characters are like nothing I have ever seen. I am even playing it on the 360 and I heard its even better on the PS3 side.TheColbert

the ps3 version runs at a much higher resolution, has lossless audio and uncompressed 1080p cgi cutscenes.

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#14 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Modded Crysis. this is my answer.Vari3ty

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

lol nice agreed -1
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[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Modded Crysis. this is my answer.Vari3ty

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

It's system wars, not console wars. Console elitism: - 1
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#16 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Modded Crysis. this is my answer.Mystic-G

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

It's system wars, not console wars. Console elitism: - 1

lol nice agreed -1

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#17 theuncharted34
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nice to c some mature response to this topic, thanx guys! personally i think kz2 looks better in some ways than kz3, and uncharted 2 is amazing too! and yeah ff13 is up there, still got to finish that onewinner-ps3

that's not really an opinion, it's true. killzone 2 has very high quality per object motion blur that is absent from killzone 3, and uses higher quality anti alaising for a couple examples. killzone 2 and 3 are pretty much exactly the same technically, the only reason killzone 3 looks better is from removing things and making compromises. what looks better out of those 2 is purely opinion, personally I think killzone 3 looks better.

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#18 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Modded Crysis. this is my answer.Mystic-G

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

It's system wars, not console wars. Console elitism: - 1

ok now u are just reaching, read topic plz...
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#19 WilliamRLBaker
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Killzone 3 better graphics then crysis 2 was posted before Crysis 2 console graphics king...so the more recent data is prefered...so your wrong.

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#20 Vari3ty
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[QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

[QUOTE="CoolSkAGuy"]Modded Crysis. this is my answer.Mystic-G

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

It's system wars, not console wars. Console elitism: - 1

Cool enough - if this included all systems, fine. However, the topic clearly specified it was comparing console graphics, not the PC's (yes, which we all know is superior). Why PC gamers have to get into every console topic to post "Hey, we have better graphics than you!" just comes across as downright annoying.

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#21 TacticalDesire
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Are you talking about during the review in regards to the statement "Crysis 2 is not in the league of Killzone 3", because Kevin was talking about each games' multi-player when he said that. It seems to me like this a great example of selective quoting in order to make things apear as though the user in question wants them too.

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#22 millerlight89
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I have a feeling TC would be saying Crysis 2 looks better if KZ3 was a MO and Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive.
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#23 Darth_DuMas
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oh okay, gamespots word... so it's the excepted consensus that MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis is it?

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#24 millerlight89
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Are you talking about during the review in regards to the statement "Crysis 2 is not in the league of Killzone 3", because Kevin was talking about each games' multi-player when he said that. It seems to me like this a great example of selective quoting in order to make things apear as though the user in question wants them too.

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No, he came into the Crysis 2 hype thread and said it. This is the perfect example of not knowing the full story, but debating it anyways.
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#25 winner-ps3
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]nice to c some mature response to this topic, thanx guys! personally i think kz2 looks better in some ways than kz3, and uncharted 2 is amazing too! and yeah ff13 is up there, still got to finish that onetheuncharted34

that's not really an opinion, it's true. killzone 2 has very high quality per object motion blur that is absent from killzone 3, and uses higher quality anti alaising for a couple examples. killzone 2 and 3 are pretty much exactly the same technically, the only reason killzone 3 looks better is from removing things and making compromises. what looks better out of those 2 is purely opinion, personally I think killzone 3 looks better.

i flip back and forth a couple times and yeah, i noticed that kz3 is very crisp/sharp looking, and has more detail it seems, i guess liked the "soft" look of kz2, but they both look great!
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#26 winner-ps3
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Are you talking about during the review in regards to the statement "Crysis 2 is not in the league of Killzone 3", because Kevin was talking about each games' multi-player when he said that. It seems to me like this a great example of selective quoting in order to make things apear as though the user in question wants them too.

TacticalDesire
its in the video review, im pretty sure i took it the way he ment it
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#27 winner-ps3
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oh okay, gamespots word... so it's the excepted consensus that MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis is it?

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how? mgs4 looked great when it came out, at that point, today not so much...
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#28 winner-ps3
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I have a feeling TC would be saying Crysis 2 looks better if KZ3 was a MO and Crysis 2 was a PS3 exclusive. millerlight89
? what do MO mean? so i can respond
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#29 theuncharted34
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if you look at the two killzone games and crysis 2 (on the 360) closely, you'll see that they're pretty much equal. both have equal texture quality, have the same modeling structure (similar polygon count with box-like structured buildings) use similar effects, ect. the differences being, crysis 2 has a more impressive scale but has framerate dips and object pop up because of it. and crysis 2 has a more advanced lighting tecnique but runs in a bit lower resolution to compensate for that.

uncharted 2 and gow 3 are the console graphics kings for having the best texture and image quality as well as having the best performance. However all of these games are quite close and are not worth the debating that occurs.

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#30 deactivated-5ef52b89b6fd0
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To me the ps3 is overrated, the fact that most Multiplait games look better on the 360 speaks alot to me, I think the sony exclusives go way out of there way to make the game look as perfect as possible, over all I think they are about the same, the differences are to small to bicker over, if you guys care so much about graphics get a pc.

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#31 winner-ps3
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if you look at the two killzone games and crysis 2 (on the 360) closely, you'll see that they're pretty much equal. both have equal texture quality, have the same modeling structure (similar polygon count with box-like structured buildings) use similar effects, ect. the differences being, crysis 2 has a more impressive scale but has framerate dips and object pop up because of it. and crysis 2 has a more advanced lighting tecnique but runs in a bit lower resolution to compensate for that.

uncharted 2 and gow 3 are the console graphics kings for having the best texture and image quality as well as having the best performance. However all of these games are quite close and are not worth the debating that occurs.

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ok i can accept that, good point, U2 is very polished
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#32 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

Are you talking about during the review in regards to the statement "Crysis 2 is not in the league of Killzone 3", because Kevin was talking about each games' multi-player when he said that. It seems to me like this a great example of selective quoting in order to make things apear as though the user in question wants them too.

millerlight89

No, he came into the Crysis 2 hype thread and said it. This is the perfect example of not knowing the full story, but debating it anyways.

Well TC just said "its in the video" so...

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#33 winner-ps3
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To me the ps3 is overrated, the fact that most Mp look better on the 360 speaks alot to me, I think the sony exclusives go way out of there way to make the game look as perfect as possible, over all I think they are about the same, the differences are to small to bicker over, if you guys care so much about graphics get a pc.

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it kinda more speaks to it being tougher to make games for, with its "cell chip" and 7 spu's,
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#34 Fizzman
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Ladies and gentlemen this is why system wars is bad for the brain.

TC is seriously trying to say GS can determine what a graphics king is AND ONLY GS.

I got news for you TC, there is no such thing as CGK. Just another made up term in SW so pepole can feel better about their purchases.

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#35 TacticalDesire
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To me the ps3 is overrated, the fact that most Multiplait games look better on the 360 speaks alot to me, I think the sony exclusives go way out of there way to make the game look as perfect as possible, over all I think they are about the same, the differences are to small to bicker over, if you guys care so much about graphics get a pc.

Advid-Gamer

I think the bottom line is that when the games are that good looking does it really matter which is ultimately the top?

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#36 Darth_DuMas
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[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]

oh okay, gamespots word... so it's the excepted consensus that MGS4 has better graphics than Crysis is it?

winner-ps3

how? mgs4 looked great when it came out, at that point, today not so much...

Gamespot said MGS4 had better technical graphics than Crysis. We are taking the gamespot word, so to accept your point we also have to accept this too.

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#37 CoolSkAGuy
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[QUOTE="Mystic-G"][QUOTE="Vari3ty"]

Clearly the title of the thread says best graphics console, of which the PC is not.

PC elitism: -1

Vari3ty

It's system wars, not console wars. Console elitism: - 1

Cool enough - if this included all systems, fine. However, the topic clearly specified it was comparing console graphics, not the PC's (yes, which we all know is superior). Why PC gamers have to get into every console topic to post "Hey, we have better graphics than you!" just comes across as downright annoying.

And console gamers arguing with each other and making up these threads saying Kill zone and uncharted are better looking than gears and crysis 2 over and over are not? Its the same games every time. I'm just giving credit where credit is due lol. Console or not... this is system wars. And unless TC makes a more creative topic I shall give the usual answer. Now if he said best Artistic or creative graphics I would have something to talk about.

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#38 soulitane
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So am I not allowed to have my own opinion anymore and should follow one site? No thank you, I'll stick to having an opinion.
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#39 killzoneded
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Well, Gamespot is the only site to say that, every single other one, like 100 reviews, state Crysis 2 is better looking than anything on PS3

100 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1

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#40 MC3887
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Well for me it is C2>U2>Gow3>KZ2/3. That won't change until UC3, GeOW 3, or rage.

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#41 good_sk8er7
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My favorite this gen would be Final Fantasy XIII. If you take in art style and graphics it truly is the best looking console game. Crysis 2, Uncharted 2 and Killzone 3 are all great but Final Fantasy is draw dropping. The environments and characters are like nothing I have ever seen. I am even playing it on the 360 and I heard its even better on the PS3 side. TheColbert

Its only slightly better on PS3. But I thought the game was ugly in everything but character models and such.

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#42 2Chalupas
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I'm just starting Crysis 2, and I think it's right there with Killzone 3 so far (just in terms of graphics). So far the story is almost non-existant in Crysis 2, at least it's not force-fed to you like in Killzone 3, but there's literally NOTHING in the 1st hour of Crysis 2. You get the intro... you get your suit...and then....you shoot...you cloak... you shoot. I can't even figure out who I'm shooting at or WHY. Hopefully it picks up the pace. I went ahead and got it just because people were saying the single player was great. There are some little inconsistencies graphically of course, but I take back whatever I said about the CryEngine 3 being an over-hyped joke after playing the multi-player demo. The single player is pretty well polished even on this console version. It easily blows away most every Unreal Engine game I've seen on PS3 (yeah, a bunch of them have problems), and it's right there with any other games people might put at the top of the graphics heap. The lighting and water in this game are just flat out amazing for a PS3 game. The lighting does cause some funky shadows at times but even with it's flaws it's right there among the best looking PS3 games, just don't zoom in on the shadows anywhere LOL. Yeah there are some blurry textures also, but Killzone 3 has some questionable textures in places as well. I will say it's a pretty close call between Crysis 2 vs KZ3 vs Uncharted 2, I think Uncharted 2 still has the edge overall and it's tough call, but I think Crysis 2 has the edge on Killzone. That's just me though.
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#43 Funconsole
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DF>GS. Also, we only use this site for scores.

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This. I kinda had a feeling this thread would be about defending the ps3 due to TC's name lol
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#44 Strakha
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All Crysis 2 does is confirm what most of us already know. The PS3 and 360 are very similar in terms of real world gaming performance. They both have the same amount of RAM, same GPU generation with the 360 being slightly more advanced and the PS3 having a more advanced CPU.
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#45 Gamerz1569
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"on 360 crysis 2 is console graphix king" but later also says "crysis 2 is NOT in the league of killzone 3"

winner-ps3

Learn to listenwhen Kevin said Crysis 2 is not in league of KZ3 it was in the context of multiplayer NOT graphics.

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#46 FIipMode
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I don't know why people are letting websites decide things like this for them, both people who want Killzone 3 to be a "CGK" and the people who want Crysis 2 to be the new "CGK".

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#47 digitalman42
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I have both games and KZ3 def looks better. Period.

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#48 usule
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I got both and crysis 2 definitely looks better.

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#49 -Tretiak
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[QUOTE="winner-ps3"]

"on 360 crysis 2 is console graphix king" but later also says "crysis 2 is NOT in the league of killzone 3"

Gamerz1569

Learn to listenwhen Kevin said Crysis 2 is not in league of KZ3 it was in the context of multiplayer NOT graphics.

This. He wasn't talking about graphics in the video review. Though he did post in the sticky thread about it.

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#50 themyth01
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If someone says "console graphics king" then it means exactly that (well in their opinion), "console-graphics-king", if someone says another console game looks better then he're simply contradicting himself and both of that person's statements are void. If someone listening to such person decides that one statement invalidates the other but not the other way around, that person is showing bias by choosing an arbitrary statement to void the other when it works both ways.