Best Gunplay in a Third Person Shooter?

yep I also enjoyed the shooting in max payne 1 and 2.

the weapons sound good and have nice kick but the aiming feels sluggish and unresponsive. They did that so you would only use the guns as a last resort, doesn't exactly speak to the quality of the firefights

I would say Max Payne and Uncharted a close 2nd.

Yeah,,, they did it to promote Stealth gameplay. And TBH, it did good for what it was created. But if you judge it as a pure shooter then the story is different.

Disagree about MP2 being better at combat all things considered. Both MP2 and 3 are pretty barebone when it comes to combat.I mean there's not much strategy, not much of a difficulty, it's flash over substance (and I say that lovingly). But MP3's flash is just so much flashier. I think a cover mechanic makes sense, and the close executions are pretty rad. Aiming while lying down feels better.

As for Alan Wake, Remedy actually brushed up the mechanics a ton for American Nightmare (pretty fun arcade mode). The nail gun is pew-pew-pew sweetness :).

Agree about Binary Domain and TLOU.

It looks like most responses include Max Payne and/or Gears. I might have to agree.

Max Payne 3, Dead Space 2, and Saints Row: The Third. All day, erryday.

I don't think any modern games have matched Mechwarrior or Mech Assault(Armored Core.) The character control has a greater logic to it, IMO. Doesn't feel as clumsy.

Good to see so many ppl picking Max Payne 3.

I never really see anyone praise it....I have seen several times ppl hate on it though. I sorta thought...."all I heard was ppl complaining about how games aren't difficult or deep in gameplay and then they make MP3 with, what I thought to be, somewhat deeper mechanics than just ice skate shooting like older shooters....and then all I heard was how MP3 was too hard".

I was sorta bummed b/c I thought it was a great game....I'm actually replaying it right now.

MP3 is my choice.

@Cloud_imperium:
Gears 3.

Socom2, but i also like the way TLoU created a feeling of fulfilment when using guns.

GRAW 1 and 2 were both FPS on PC and were pretty true to the originals, unlike their console counterparts. I remember trying to play it when it came out on an under-speced PC at 25 FPS and I kept getting one-two shot killed by freaking Mexican thugs because my reaction time/aim was too hampered by the low framerate to counter. And there I was thinking I was supposed to be a badass "advanced warfighter".

Oh and my pick would be Mass Effect 2/3. The sniper rifles and pistols were fun. I ...uh, don't play many TPSs.

Max Payne 1 and 2. My favorite linear third person shooters in my opinion. Way better then Max Payne 3.

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Forgot about Ghost Recon 2. That's probably what he was talking about....

Best Shooting Mechanics: (In no particular order)

-Max Payne 3

-Gears of War 3 - NOT Judgement or the other gears of war games simply because they are either too stiff or framerates are unbearable. The PC version of Gears 1 is perfection...

-The Last of Us Remastered

-Mass Effect 3

Decent Shooting Mechanics:

-Tomb Raider (@60FPS)

-Splinter Cell Conviction, Blacklist

-Ghost Recon Future Soldier

The Last of Us Remastered, Gears of War 3, Tomb Raider.

+1

Yeah except i'm not too fond of the following
-Not having access all my guns vs a weapon wheel (I'm always going to pick the latter, and MP3 doesn't do the 2/3 weapon system thing in an all that interesting way, because as you stated it's all flash). And MP2 lets me stay flashy for longer and more varied ways.

-Not having the flow of the game come to a screeching halt everytime this dip shit needs to go through a door, especially because he's going to switch guns everytime, because they animated the cutscenes with him having a pistol.

Max Payne keeps the overall flow of combat rolling, 1 and 2, 3, Rockstar keeps getting in the way, and the whole time I want to go why can't Rockstar get out of the games way, when did they become Hideo Kojima?

stranglehold

It was a fun game. I liked it. Was directed by John Woo himself. It's sequel to his movie "Hard Boiled", one of the movies that inspired Max Payne 1 and 2.

@Cloud_imperium: yea it know. its a stupid little game and doesnt hold a candle to max payne. but i gotta say the gunplay is exquisite

Max Payne, Socom, Vanquish, Binary Domain are all good choices.

Vanquish

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Sure, if you have never played Vanquish

The Max Payne trilogy as a whole.

Not gonna deny those two point. I guess my thinking was that the first one is not that big of a deal and the second one not part of the gameplay. But thinking some more on it, I kind of agree that the constant interruptions probably should be included in the gp. Just as you say they def have a pretty big negative effect on it (the constant unskippable cutscenes are a nuisance in the story and completely kills the arcade mode).

And yeah the automatic weapon switching annoyed me like crazy lol.

Mass effect 3, ghost recon future soldier, will try to think of more.

MGS

Any Max Payne game is a good choice, the interesting thing is that the first game has a different feel than the other two. It is kind of a melee game with shotguns and assault rifles. While the other two are more "realistic". In terms of gunplay alone, I'd say the third one is the best. In many ways it's a perfected Max Payne 2.

It's cool to see some people mentioning Mass Effect 3 here, when everything is considered, it has indeed a great gunplay, but I'd say Mass Effect 2 has a better balance and is more fun to play. I'd also give a mention to Splinter Cell Blacklist which has the best stealthy combat there is, and the gunplay is tight. Gears of War 3 is also a good choice.

I'm a massive fan of Vanquish.

This.

But everyone said Max Payne, indicating "Max Payne".

good point. max payne, vanquish, or gears are the only 3 correct answers

All 3 Max Payne games.

+1

I'd be hard pressed to say no to mass effect. I do love the series and even though the 2nd one had the best campaign, i'd give gunplay to the 3rd one. especially in the co-op mode, but the gun play was aided greatly by the power/melee/combos etc. and the fact you could literally go through and beat it without using a gun puts it lower on the list for me personally. great games, but not the best TPS IMO

Crackdown and soon Crackdown 3. :P

never played any max payne games so i dont have an opinion about it. Ive always preferred TPS over fps , socom was really good back in its day , gears was good too but my favorite are MGS 3,4 and 5. MGS5 has resurrected my interest in gaming, idk why but just havent had any urge to play until this masterpiece arrived.

Vanquish for sure. That game is insane.

Would disagree here, it's the part where they are a bit more difficult to shoot that adds to how satisfying the action is and when the stealth itself is broken. Being able to move from cover to cover, break line of sight, properly line up shots, and hit is part of what makes it all engaging. Especially if you are on a higher difficulty and are in a spot light on bullets.

Plus the animations themselves and how meaty a solid head shot feels makes it all sing. It's why the mp is enjoyable. It isn't STALKER territory of making you work for your shot (an aspect about that game that I really fucking like), but for a safer traditional triple A production it's still well done. And it isn't straight up incompetence like the shooting mechanics of Uncharted 1 and 3.

I think Destiny did it pretty well same with Battlefield 3

Neither game is a third person shooter.

any 3rd person ghost recon gets my vote. i'm not into 3rd person shooters at all but i've played enough of them to know that any ghost recon after the original and expansions offer the absolute best shooting mechanics in that sub genre.

Yeah agreed on both points.