[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
70 million
9 AAA enough said
It is still in last place.
*grabs more popcorn*
70 million is not last place
Yeah... it is.This topic is locked from further discussion.
[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
70 million
9 AAA enough said
It is still in last place.
*grabs more popcorn*
70 million is not last place
Yeah... it is.you finally made a thread that had some valid points and you've turned it into crap with the same childish, fanboyish nonsense you're known for well donethat's great for your opinion and in my opinion ds is too kiddie to be considered a real handheld.
fightninja162
[QUOTE="calvinsora"]
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
70 million
9 AAA enough said
fightninja162
Sales don't matter for my opinion. Neither do critic scores. I'm not trying to be mean, but for me, it's got a lot of ground to cover to even touch the DS's coat tails (if it wore a coat...).
that's great for your opinion and in my opinion ds is too kiddie to be considered a real handheld.
I'm sorry, but I don't see the kiddie=>not handheld correlation. Because the DS is on its way to being the highest selling handheld (and maybe even console) ever, there are seemingly many millions that disagree. My only logic for my opinion is that I'm not a big fan of the games on the PSP. Dismissing the DS as a handheld is...a bit drastic.
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]you finally made a thread that had some valid points and you've turned it into crap with the same childish, fanboyish nonsense you're known for well donethat's great for your opinion and in my opinion ds is too kiddie to be considered a real handheld.
benbeckman
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
Why? TC speaks the truth... you psp haters can't stand that its a good game can you? The game looks and plays better then any of the PS2 mgs games and it is fun!!!! I am hooked. I stopped playing red dead, 3d dot, and alpha protocol when I picked this up. I tried putting mgs3 into my ps2 the other night to compare and that game looks so damn bad. Everything is amlost flat shaded with very very low res testures and detail. The psp peacewalker game is head and shoulders over mgs3 in terms of looks and control. I was frustrated trying to get the mgs3 controls down, but peacewalker plays great even with the one analog. You see there is a mgs4 like control scheme that works like Syphon filter controls (or the mgs po and monster hunter controls if you like. ) Peacewalker is fantstic!!!!You would say this.
treedoor
you finally made a thread that had some valid points and you've turned it into crap with the same childish, fanboyish nonsense you're known for well done[QUOTE="benbeckman"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]
that's great for your opinion and in my opinion ds is too kiddie to be considered a real handheld.
fightninja162
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
Its SW, what do you expect?
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
fightninja162
You could ignore them.
you finally made a thread that had some valid points and you've turned it into crap with the same childish, fanboyish nonsense you're known for well done[QUOTE="benbeckman"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]
that's great for your opinion and in my opinion ds is too kiddie to be considered a real handheld.
fightninja162
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
What do you expect from this site. These people have a trend following mentality. PSP rules, and Peacewalker is king of handheld games. Although about chinatown wars, i preferred the GTA LCS and VCS way better,,, they were actually real GTA games with voice acting, cut-scenes, radio stations and everything.Wouldn't know since I don't play portable games. Though I must say, those graphics are gorgeous for a portable system. It looks better than even some PS2 games out there.Xeros606This^^^ Go pop in MGS3 on a hd tv and then compare it to peacewalker... the ps2 game is downright ugly!
you finally made a thread that had some valid points and you've turned it into crap with the same childish, fanboyish nonsense you're known for well done[QUOTE="benbeckman"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]
that's great for your opinion and in my opinion ds is too kiddie to be considered a real handheld.
fightninja162
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
I fully admit that I went off-topic, I apologize. PW looks really good, I've always been a big fan of the series. But there's really no "best" game, only favorites. Mine would be TWEWY.
[QUOTE="fightninja162"][QUOTE="benbeckman"] you finally made a thread that had some valid points and you've turned it into crap with the same childish, fanboyish nonsense you're known for well doneMidnightshade29
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
What do you expect from this site. These people have a trend following mentality. PSP rules, and Peacewalker is king of handheld games. Although about chinatown wars, i preferred the GTA LCS and VCS way better,,, they were actually real GTA games with voice acting, cut-scenes, radio stations and everything.You have a blindly praise Sony mentality. Don't bother us with your hollier than you attitude.
What do you expect from this site. These people have a trend following mentality. PSP rules, and Peacewalker is king of handheld games. Although about chinatown wars, i preferred the GTA LCS and VCS way better,,, they were actually real GTA games with voice acting, cut-scenes, radio stations and everything.[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]
well if the posters in this thread would stick to the original post instead of bash psp we would get somewhere.
ActicEdge
You have a blindly praise Sony mentality. Don't bother us with your hollier than you attitude.
Dude...i own and like the ds too, but I can't stand how ds fans on this site love to bash the psp. PSP rocks (and so does the DS) We need PEACE.They disagree because they haven't played it. (or they don't care and are insecure about the DS for some reason even though 2 handhelds can live in PEACE... I own them both and wouldn't want it any other way!)TC is completely right, Peace Walker is the best handheld this gen. Its got amazing graphics, amazing gameplay, amazing story and incredible depth. If anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear reasons.
Asim90
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
[QUOTE="toast_burner"]
AAA = 15
AA = 76
130 million sold
toast_burner
12 not 15 common 3 nintendogs getting AAA is not serious
the ds has more games only because the ds is easier to develop for
that's like me asking which is easier to develop PS2 (PSP) or SNES (DS)
still 12>9and 76>42
The DS has double the amount of AA+ games
So tjhat means the psp is a failure? If you are going to do that..why not add all the PS1 games ... whats the scores for FF7,8,9, tactics, grandia, vagrant story, tomb raider 1-4, etc etc....? BOTH consoles are great, I do prefer the psp but the ds has some nice gems. I just can't stand how sys wars bash the psp and call it a failure, just because they love to hate. BOTH handhelds can live in PEACE.[QUOTE="Asim90"]They disagree because they haven't played it. (or they don't care and are insecure about the DS for some reason even though 2 handhelds can live in PEACE... I own them both and wouldn't want it any other way!)TC is completely right, Peace Walker is the best handheld this gen. Its got amazing graphics, amazing gameplay, amazing story and incredible depth. If anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear reasons.
Midnightshade29
Or they have a different opinion. I'm not questioning the game's quality, but everyone is fully entitled to disagreeing with the statement: "PW is the best handheld game ever". That's neither true or false, it's just opinion.
TC is completely right, Peace Walker is the best handheld this gen. Its got amazing graphics, amazing gameplay, amazing story and incredible depth. If anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear reasons.
They disagree because they haven't played it. (or they don't care and are insecure about the DS for some reason even though 2 handhelds can live in PEACE... I own them both and wouldn't want it any other way!) Because it's impossible for people to have their own opinion, right? :|[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="Asim90"]They disagree because they haven't played it. (or they don't care and are insecure about the DS for some reason even though 2 handhelds can live in PEACE... I own them both and wouldn't want it any other way!) Because it's impossible for people to have their own opinion, right? :|TC is completely right, Peace Walker is the best handheld this gen. Its got amazing graphics, amazing gameplay, amazing story and incredible depth. If anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear reasons.
Silverbond
Seriously. I never liked MGS that much, so I doubt I would declare this one "best handheld game this gen".
Those don't look better than PS2 games.Asim90
can you show me a ps2 MGS that looks better than this ?
Well...it's either this:
or this
Yea...oh and the PW screenshot I actually provided, as evidenced by the SILVUR at the lower left :)
PSP game looks way better then MGS3... GO play it on a hd tv on the PS2... it looks like crap.. all washed out low res jaggy textures... The fact that a handheld can produce such visuals is amazing yet most of you don't recognize that.As for the psp ... it is the only non nintendo handheld to ever have succsess. NInty has years of exp. and tons of blind loyal fans who will never give the psp a chance. Not to mention all the parents who buy their kids ds's because their cheaper and more kid friendly. (just look at the other larger half of the ds library.. that people here tend to ignore... nintendogs, barbie horse adventures, animal crossing, edumacation games... etc... parents eat that stuff up for their kids) (waiting for angry animal crossing fan to flame me...lol) It's no wonder the ds sells more. It's common sense. But you guys got to admit the psp has some great games and the graphics are great along with the media functionality and ps1 support. I love both consoles but will be a stark psp defender on here as it doesn't get enough love.
[QUOTE="fightninja162"] hopefully nintendo realises they need MGS for their dsPSP already has MGS1, and it would never run on the ds hardware...maybe 3ds...but not the ds. Hell the DS couldn't even run a 2d game like Castlevania SOTN...go compare the DS cv games to SOTN...SOTN is miles ahead in both graphics and depth of rpg elements.Midnightshade29
you got that right I downloaded SOTN for psp beat it 4 times upside down castle and all it's the best 2d castlevania ever.
TC is completely right, Peace Walker is the best handheld this gen. Its got amazing graphics, amazing gameplay, amazing story and incredible depth. If anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear reasons.
They disagree because they haven't played it. (or they don't care and are insecure about the DS for some reason even though 2 handhelds can live in PEACE... I own them both and wouldn't want it any other way!) Because it's impossible for people to have their own opinion, right? :| It is when most people bashing the psp don't own one and bash it just to hate. PSP is great you should give it a try. I can recommend a ton of games if you like.[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]
meh psp still sucks
fightninja162
nope it officially has gone into the realm of one of the best handheld ever.
The DS library destroys the PSP library. Utterly destroys it.PSP game looks way better then MGS3... GO play it on a hd tv on the PS2... it looks like crap.. all washed out low res jaggy textures... The fact that a handheld can produce such visuals is amazing yet most of you don't recognize that.Go play the PSP game on an HD TV, it'll look like crap too :|As for the psp ... it is the only non nintendo handheld to ever have succsess. NInty has years of exp. and tons of blind loyal fans who will never give the psp a chance. Not to mention all the parents who buy their kids ds's because their cheaper and more kid friendly. (just look at the other larger half of the ds library.. that people here tend to ignore... nintendogs, barbie horse adventures, animal crossing, edumacation games... etc... parents eat that stuff up for their kids) (waiting for angry animal crossing fan to flame me...lol) It's no wonder the ds sells more. It's common sense. But you guys got to admit the psp has some great games and the graphics are great along with the media functionality and ps1 support. I love both consoles but will be a stark psp defender on here as it doesn't get enough love.
Midnightshade29
[QUOTE="treedoor"]Why? TC speaks the truth... you psp haters can't stand that its a good game can you? The game looks and plays better then any of the PS2 mgs games and it is fun!!!! I am hooked. I stopped playing red dead, 3d dot, and alpha protocol when I picked this up. I tried putting mgs3 into my ps2 the other night to compare and that game looks so damn bad. Everything is amlost flat shaded with very very low res testures and detail. The psp peacewalker game is head and shoulders over mgs3 in terms of looks and control. I was frustrated trying to get the mgs3 controls down, but peacewalker plays great even with the one analog. You see there is a mgs4 like control scheme that works like Syphon filter controls (or the mgs po and monster hunter controls if you like. ) Peacewalker is fantstic!!!!You would say this.
Midnightshade29
No, see, i didn't bash Peace Walker.
I actually was just playing Socom on my PSP 5 minutes ago. There's nothing to hate about the PSP, at least not for me. Only reason I'm not playing Peace Walker is because I've never played MGS. I did buy the original for PS1 not too long ago because I wanted to get into the series, and played that for a little bit, and then got MGS2 for my PS2. I don't hate Playstation or the series
The reason I said what I said was because the TC is notorious for terrible ds vs psp threads. Have you not read his replies in this thread?
PSP game looks way better then MGS3... GO play it on a hd tv on the PS2... it looks like crap.. all washed out low res jaggy textures... The fact that a handheld can produce such visuals is amazing yet most of you don't recognize that.
As for the psp ... it is the only non nintendo handheld to ever have succsess. NInty has years of exp. and tons of blind loyal fans who will never give the psp a chance. Not to mention all the parents who buy their kids ds's because their cheaper and more kid friendly. (just look at the other larger half of the ds library.. that people here tend to ignore... nintendogs, barbie horse adventures, animal crossing, edumacation games... etc... parents eat that stuff up for their kids) (waiting for angry animal crossing fan to flame me...lol) It's no wonder the ds sells more. It's common sense. But you guys got to admit the psp has some great games and the graphics are great along with the media functionality and ps1 support. I love both consoles but will be a stark psp defender on here as it doesn't get enough love.
Midnightshade29
Why would you play a game that was made for SDTV's on an HDTV to make such a comparison? I assume if you did the same with Peace Walker it would look much worse than MGS3. The fact that you are even suggesting that Peace Walker looks better is completely ludicrous.
Your comments about the Nintendo DS chock full of generalizations about the DS userbase. The PSP has sold about 66.7 million worldwide, how is it being ignored again?
[QUOTE="Midnightshade29"][QUOTE="fightninja162"] hopefully nintendo realises they need MGS for their ds EleckiddingPSP already has MGS1, and it would never run on the ds hardware...maybe 3ds...but not the ds. Hell the DS couldn't even run a 2d game like Castlevania SOTN...go compare the DS cv games to SOTN...SOTN is miles ahead in both graphics and depth of rpg elements. I agree that SOTN is a better game than the DS ones, but the DS graphics are leagues ahead.
no they are not
[QUOTE="fightninja162"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]
meh psp still sucks
Number_1_Gamer
nope it officially has gone into the realm of one of the best handheld ever.
The DS library destroys the PSP library. Utterly destroys it.lol with what games ? the only games that are good on ds is the advance wars and the usual mario and zelda the rest are point and click and shovelware.
GTA ctw was a reason that before I wanted to get a ds and then it went multiplat because ds owners don't like hardcore games.
I agree that SOTN is a better game than the DS ones, but the DS graphics are leagues ahead.[QUOTE="Eleckidding"][QUOTE="Midnightshade29"] PSP already has MGS1, and it would never run on the ds hardware...maybe 3ds...but not the ds. Hell the DS couldn't even run a 2d game like Castlevania SOTN...go compare the DS cv games to SOTN...SOTN is miles ahead in both graphics and depth of rpg elements.fightninja162
no they are not
I don't even need to show pictures, they clearly are.[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
GTA ctw was a reason that before I wanted to get a ds and then it went multiplat because ds owners don't like hardcore games.
treedoor
Wait, you mean that GTA game that actually sold less on the PSP than it did on the DS?
I just lol'd
PSP doesn't have a 130 million user base
GTA ctw not selling on ds is inexcusable.
[QUOTE="treedoor"]
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
GTA ctw was a reason that before I wanted to get a ds and then it went multiplat because ds owners don't like hardcore games.
fightninja162
Wait, you mean that GTA game that actually sold less on the PSP than it did on the DS?
I just lol'd
PSP doesn't have a 130 million user base
GTA ctw not selling on ds is inexcusable.
The PSP has more than half the DS' userbase, yet GTA CW sold less than half the amount on PSP than it did on DS. That's "inexcusable" for a he-man tough guy system.[QUOTE="fightninja162"][QUOTE="Eleckidding"] I agree that SOTN is a better game than the DS ones, but the DS graphics are leagues ahead.Eleckidding
no they are not
I don't even need to show pictures, they clearly are.please do show a ds castlevania picture that looks better than sotn
[QUOTE="treedoor"]
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
GTA ctw was a reason that before I wanted to get a ds and then it went multiplat because ds owners don't like hardcore games.
fightninja162
Wait, you mean that GTA game that actually sold less on the PSP than it did on the DS?
I just lol'd
PSP doesn't have a 130 million user base
GTA ctw not selling on ds is inexcusable.
GTA not selling on a playstation system is inexcusable.
You said it yourself that DS owners don't like hardcore games, and insinuated that the reason it was ported was because PSP owners are hardcore and buy games like GTA right?
The DS library destroys the PSP library. Utterly destroys it.[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]
nope it officially has gone into the realm of one of the best handheld ever.
fightninja162
lol with what games ? the only games that are good on ds is the advance wars and the usual mario and zelda the rest are point and click and shovelware.
GTA ctw was a reason that before I wanted to get a ds and then it went multiplat because ds owners don't like hardcore games.
I'm a DS owner and I love games like Final Fantasy III, Final Fantasy IV, Dragon Quest IV, Dragon Quest V, Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon, Ninja Gaiden: Dragon Sword, Chrono Trigger, the three DS Castlevania titles, Sonic Rush, Sonic Rush Adventure, The World Ends With You, Advance Wars: Days of Ruin, Pokemon Diamond, Final Fantasy Tactics, New Super Mario Brothers, Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Zelda Spirit Tracks, Dementium: The Ward, Mega Man ZX, Mega Man: ZX Advent, Contra 4, Glory of Heracles, and Exit DS
Are you honestly going to tell me that none of those games are aimed at hardcore gamers? You're free to your own tastes in games, and if none of those appeal to you, then that's your choice.
But stop acting like the DS has no hardcore games.
If hardcore games don't sale on the DS, then why do companies keep making them on the DS?
I personally think Phoenix Wright or Pokemon is....China Town was also very good...for either the DS or PSP version. There is not difference between the 2.
I don't even need to show pictures, they clearly are.[QUOTE="Eleckidding"][QUOTE="fightninja162"]
no they are not
fightninja162
please do show a ds castlevania picture that looks better than sotn
Any screenshot of Castlevania Order of Ecclesia.[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
[QUOTE="treedoor"]
Wait, you mean that GTA game that actually sold less on the PSP than it did on the DS?
I just lol'd
treedoor
PSP doesn't have a 130 million user base
GTA ctw not selling on ds is inexcusable.
GTA not selling on a playstation system is inexcusable.
You said it yourself that DS owners don't like hardcore games, and insinuated that the reason it was ported was because PSP owners are hardcore and buy games like GTA right?
idk if this is the post i was looking at and im too lazy to look through 15+ pages but the PSP fails regardless just because it was hyped to crush the ds and it failed hard
sounds like a Nintendo fan to me -_-[QUOTE="x8VXU6"]
[QUOTE="Khadaj32"]
It's not the best, not even close. It's good, but pales in comparison to several titles.
Mario1331
but hes telling the truth though being a fan and knowing the truth,theres nothing wrong with that hoenstly
your truth is not the truth
[QUOTE="treedoor"]
[QUOTE="fightninja162"]
PSP doesn't have a 130 million user base
GTA ctw not selling on ds is inexcusable.
Mario1331
GTA not selling on a playstation system is inexcusable.
You said it yourself that DS owners don't like hardcore games, and insinuated that the reason it was ported was because PSP owners are hardcore and buy games like GTA right?
idk if this is the post i was looking at and im too lazy to look through 15+ pages but the PSP fails regardless just because it was hyped to crush the ds and it failed hard
in some regards it has crushed the ds one is in graphics, in dlc and general in having games like peace walker and Chain of Olympus.TC is completely right, Peace Walker is the best handheld this gen. Its got amazing graphics, amazing gameplay, amazing story and incredible depth. If anyone disagrees, I'd like to hear reasons.
Asim90
Maybe because the MGS series is a one-hit wonder and has sucked since the first game???
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