Best RTS and Strategy game ever.

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#51 IgGy621985
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How come nobody is mentioning Halo Wars? :(
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#52 angry_fork
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RTS and Strategy games are completely and utterly lame in my opinion.

For some reason these games thrive like crazy on PC, I guess cuz it's point and click but still.

Thank god for Alan Wake, Mass Effect etc. or I wouldn't have a need for a gaming PC the way these RTS games consume PC's.

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#53 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="strider_ATI"]empire total war is the ultimate mix of turn based and real time strategy gaming. Empire wins. Company of heroes comes in third, behind medieval 2 total war.illegalimigrant

Totally agree with you.

this game isn't even out yet....how on earth can it "win".

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#54 DucksBrains
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Oddball vote!  Luigi_Vincetana

I concur.

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#55 mo0ksi
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RTS and Strategy games are completely and utterly lame in my opinion.

For some reason these games thrive like crazy on PC, I guess cuz it's point and click but still.

Thank god for Alan Wake, Mass Effect etc. or I wouldn't have a need for a gaming PC the way these RTS games consume PC's.

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Have you given them a shot at least?
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#56 malikmmm
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RTS and Strategy games are completely and utterly lame in my opinion.

For some reason these games thrive like crazy on PC, I guess cuz it's point and click but still.

Thank god for Alan Wake, Mass Effect etc. or I wouldn't have a need for a gaming PC the way these RTS games consume PC's.

angry_fork

What Does A Monkey Know About The Taste Of Ginger ?

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#57 splinter-OP
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Its a tie between Halo Wars and CnC 3: Tiberium Wars on the 360; there, happy IgGy :P

On topic, Rise of Nations followed by Age of Empires 2 and Red Alert 2.

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#58 angry_fork
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[QUOTE="angry_fork"]

RTS and Strategy games are completely and utterly lame in my opinion.

For some reason these games thrive like crazy on PC, I guess cuz it's point and click but still.

Thank god for Alan Wake, Mass Effect etc. or I wouldn't have a need for a gaming PC the way these RTS games consume PC's.

mo0ksi

Have you given them a shot at least?

I have and I just couldn't get into them. I need to be in the action myself, guiding a bunch of other tiny soldiers to do what I want is not my idea of fun, i'd rather be a soldier shooting people then a general watching it on TV telling him where to shoot.

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#59 DA_B0MB
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Starcraft. There is no argument. Thread over.
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#60 DA_B0MB
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How come nobody is mentioning Halo Wars? :(IgGy621985

Because no one has played it yet and it's impossible for a console based RTS to have better controls than a PC based RTS.

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#61 Bromz
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The full game isn't playable online and the AI is TERRIBLE. The AI for total war games has always been retarded.
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#62 ffxcrazyxD
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Ohhh I so hate Microsoft for closing Ensemble cause Rise of Nations is my favourite RTS ever with Company of Heroes a veryyyyyyyyyyyyy close second.
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#63 Bromz
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Ohhh I so hate Microsoft for closing Ensemble cause Rise of Nations is my favourite RTS ever with Company of Heroes a veryyyyyyyyyyyyy close second.ffxcrazyxD
ye CoH is awesome.
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#64 splinter-OP
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Ohhh I so hate Microsoft for closing Ensemble cause Rise of Nations is my favourite RTS ever with Company of Heroes a veryyyyyyyyyyyyy close second.ffxcrazyxD

Actually Big Huge Games made RoN, but I do agree, Ensemble was on of my favorite developers.

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The full game isn't playable online and the AI is TERRIBLE. The AI for total war games has always been retarded. Bromz

I want to see sou saying that after you lose the HRE campaign in Deus Io Vult mod...

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#66 ChiddaPotta
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Lol, Empire Total Crap is the best RTS ever? Puh-Lease.

Easily goes to 2nd best game of all time Starcraft: Brood War.

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#67 azad_champ
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Have we forgotten about Age of Empires 2? That game made RTS what it's today.

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#68 Redmoonxl2
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Have we forgotten about Age of Empires 2? That game made RTS what it's today.

azad_champ

Technically, Dune 2 is the game that made RTS games what they are today.

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I totally agree. This RTS will be epic.
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#70 Bromz
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[QUOTE="Bromz"]The full game isn't playable online and the AI is TERRIBLE. The AI for total war games has always been retarded. True_Gamer_

I want to see sou saying that after you lose the HRE campaign in Deus Io Vult mod...

Two points on that... A) First of all, obviously using mods to defend a game is absolutely dumb. I could make it so England get 20 units a turn for free and all of a sudden its hard. Thats not the point. B) I never really played Medieval mods. But if they're anything like the Rome mods such as Darth, Europa Barbarorum, Rome Total Realism etc they all increase difficulty artificially. I want to actually have the AI just better tactics not just have its units get better stats, as someone who played alot of the online (despite riduclous bugs such as shield bonus not working) I could basically fall asleep and beat the computer. This is the same in most games, however its especially evident in Total War because the point (of the battle map at least) of it is to make you feel like a general...this means actual tactics with formations etc so it highlights a rubbish AI other than most RTSs where its about build orders and such which you can make an AI do proficiantly. I'm cautiously optimistic of Empire because of the Napoleonic Total War 2 mod. This is the single greatest mod ever released, thats a fact. It was online only and suffered from obvious engine limitations associated with modding a Roman warfare game into a Napoleonic warfare game. However it was extremely fun, I hope Creative Assembly rip it off. Then again, its CA...so expect artillery that shoots flaming elephants who shoot laser beams from their backs.
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I haven't had much experience with RTS, but from the experience that I had, I really love total war. I've only played shogun total war, because of sucky comp. and playing other genres more, but the combat in the game was awesome. In most other RTS, the combat was reduced pretty much to triangle relations of shooting swordmen with archers, hitting archers with cavalry etc. In shogun, the terrain effects, fatigue and morale really changed the game up, and the real time fights were awesome.

That isn't saying I didn't enjoy other RTS though. I had tons of fun with age of empires 2, red alert 2, civ 4 etc.

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This one is my all time favorite. The story is just AWESOME. 8)
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#73 surrealnumber5
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best rts is still and will be for a long time to come

EMPIRE EARTH

but there are a lot of good ones out their

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#74 All_that_is_Man
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Warcraft 3
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#75 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

[QUOTE="Bromz"]The full game isn't playable online and the AI is TERRIBLE. The AI for total war games has always been retarded. Bromz

I want to see sou saying that after you lose the HRE campaign in Deus Io Vult mod...

Two points on that... A) First of all, obviously using mods to defend a game is absolutely dumb. I could make it so England get 20 units a turn for free and all of a sudden its hard. Thats not the point. B) I never really played Medieval mods. But if they're anything like the Rome mods such as Darth, Europa Barbarorum, Rome Total Realism etc they all increase difficulty artificially. I want to actually have the AI just better tactics not just have its units get better stats, as someone who played alot of the online (despite riduclous bugs such as shield bonus not working) I could basically fall asleep and beat the computer. This is the same in most games, however its especially evident in Total War because the point (of the battle map at least) of it is to make you feel like a general...this means actual tactics with formations etc so it highlights a rubbish AI other than most RTSs where its about build orders and such which you can make an AI do proficiantly. I'm cautiously optimistic of Empire because of the Napoleonic Total War 2 mod. This is the single greatest mod ever released, thats a fact. It was online only and suffered from obvious engine limitations associated with modding a Roman warfare game into a Napoleonic warfare game. However it was extremely fun, I hope Creative Assembly rip it off. Then again, its CA...so expect artillery that shoots flaming elephants who shoot laser beams from their backs.

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IN the light of the pathetic dumbed down to the level of a 12 year old kiddo "RTS" toys....The TOTAL WAR series are a beacon of light....amongst the darkness of Dune2....

NAME me ONE melee Strategy title more tactical...That combines NAVAL battles...Strategic DEPTH...ONE...

Do you have anything better than ETW to play? Starcraft2? A pathetic Dune2 Dinosaur that the Koreans just wont let die...?

As for the so called "AI" there IS NO AI IN GAMES...Its the eyar 2008 FOR CHRISTS sake!!!!! Not 2800!!!! Total War has so many tactical and strategic options its mind boggling....So the inablility to make a challenging PROGRAMMED OPONNENT just HIGHLIGHTS the tactical deph of the game....

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#76 AHUGECAT
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Halo Wars.
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#77 C-Lee
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Warcraft 3 was a masterpiece
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#78 malikmmm
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Halo Wars.AHUGECAT

lol :lol:

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#79 malikmmm
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best rts is still and will be for a long time to come

EMPIRE EARTH

but there are a lot of good ones out their

surrealnumber5

hey i loved empire earth, the senario # 2 in russian campaign is on of the hardest map i have ever played the epoch's were amazing....

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#80 jaisimar_chelse
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Halo Wars.AHUGECAT

yes i agree, any one who says other wise is either a troll or a fanboy:twisted:

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#81 Juggernaut140
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Company of Heroes
Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts
World in Conflict

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#82 munkeypoo45
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i think starcraft is the best rts game. but thats my opinion
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#83 aliblabla2007
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Seems that there are a lot of immature fanboys in this thread who are too squeamish to handle the idea that other people may like certain games better than their favourites.

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http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/varnayo/juegos/Warcraft_2_Battle_Net_Edition.jpg

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#85 Ballroompirate
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I have to go with warcraft 3 the frozen throne as best RTS ever
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#86 kweeni
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top 3 best rts ever:

1. Rome: Total war

2. Medieval 2: total war

3. Rome: Total war Barbarian Invasion

getting next: medieval 2 kingdoms, world in conflict(demo rocks)

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#87 illegalimigrant
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top 3 best rts ever:

1. Rome: Total war

2. Medieval 2: total war

3. Rome: Total war Barbarian Invasion

getting next: medieval 2 kingdoms, world in conflict(demo rocks)

kweeni

Empire Total war has not come yet but in my list it would be the top. It looks so awsome!

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Empire Total War will be amazing I think.
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http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a322/varnayo/juegos/Warcraft_2_Battle_Net_Edition.jpg

http://static1.filefront.com/images/xtbfjiluss.jpg

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Fawlcon_Pawnch

Well, um, no. As much as I love Warcraft 2, it has one major flaw - the opposing factions aside from magic-casting units doesn't differ from each other.

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#90 ram_rob
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i have downloaded the demo for WiC its amazing, and very addictive. though not officailly RTS because of no base building. who cares its fun and it has nukes what more could you ask for.

Empire total war is amazing and im defiantly getting it, especially with the new naval battles.

and everyone likes these old games that i wouldnt even call 2d graphics, with no phisics what soever it all comes down to rock paper sisccors. BORING!!!

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#91 bethwo
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Warcraft 3, Red Alert 2, AOE2: The Age of Kings & Age of Mythology FTW!
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Loved this game.

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#93 zekere
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Total Annihilation , Command and Conquer Red Alert and Starcraft are the kings . All the rest are copies !!!
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1. Starcraft (invented the 3 completely unique civs) 2. Age of Mythology (Can any RTS ever boast of God Powers?) 3. Warcraft 3 (started the hero unit and treasure hunting) 4. Rome: Total War (the breakthrough game that turned the Total Wars series from great to epic) 5. Red Alert 2 (one of the most fun RTS I have ever played) Honourables- Company of Heroes, Age of Empires 2, World in Conflict, Command and Conquer, Warcraft 2, AOE 3 (a little unoriginal, especially the expansions)
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Starcraft wins IMO. It was a simple game and yet was extremely balanced and had amazing depth. Its because of this that it is still popular today. RTS games are what they are today because of this game.
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#96 scoobiesnackarf
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This one still remains as the best in my eyes:

 foxhound_fox
SoI know I will get flack for this but being somebody who hasn't played that many RTS, which one is this?

Alan

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#97 AdrianWerner
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this will still be the best naval wargame, I doubt Empire will touch it, Europa Universalis 3 will propably be better at grand strategy than Empire too.

But what makes TotalWar so good is that is does everything good, it's not best at everything (it can't be, the complexity would kill any normal gamer if it was), but it offers great quality in every aspect of warfare

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#98 ZimpanX
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]This one still remains as the best in my eyes:

scoobiesnackarf

SoI know I will get flack for this but being somebody who hasn't played that many RTS, which one is this?

Alan



You're looking at Age of Empires II: Age of Kings, one of my absolute favorites as well.
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#99 dl5852930
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This is what a RTS should be!

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#100 Dark_Link142
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]This one still remains as the best in my eyes:

scoobiesnackarf

SoI know I will get flack for this but being somebody who hasn't played that many RTS, which one is this?

Alan

Age of Empires 2. Fantastic game.