Bethesda is LAZY and their Development Cycles are Unacceptable. Uncle Phil needs to put his Foot up Bethesda's @SS!!!!!!

Bethesda is clearly milking the MS gravy train these days with their lazy effort with Starfield an lazy lackluster expansion Shattered Space and their ridiculous long development cycles with Elder Scrolls that had a trailer almost 8 years ago and no clear target launch date in sight.

Look at a developer like Warehouse just released Kingdom Come 2 in basically a 5yr development window. And you have CD Project Red just putting out a statement that they have ramped up over 400 developers so they are clearly trucking away and will likely release the Witcher 4 probably around the same times or roughly near the same time Elder Scrolls comes out.

Fallout 5 when in 2035 if we are lucky? That would be 20 years after Fallout 4 in 2015.

It's obvious that Bethesda is milking and acting like a lazy developer taking their sweet time on MS money and Bethesda does not seem to have the same drive or passion like they once had.

Uncle Phil it's time for you to break out the LEAD BOOT and put it right up Todd Howards and Bethesda's @SS!!!!!!

This actually adds even more credence to Bethesda's Laziness. Starfield was in development for 10 Freaking Years yet we hear that Bethesda was more stick in recent years. WOW this is complete laziness, milking Uncle Phil and MS these days obviously. 10 years for Starfield and we got a lazy cough strict my ass development cycle.

Time for Uncle Phil to lay the Smack down on Toddy and the gang.

https://gamingbolt.com/starfields-development-schedule-was-more-strict-than-skyrims-former-developer

This thread is pretty boring so I'm sharing this instead.

I disagree.

MS just completed the purchase of Zenimax in March 2021, 4yrs ago. Most of the studios were already working on releases, some have yet to release anything. They have spent the last few years expanding teams to be able to put out more content. I'm sure some of that are support studios but hopefully we see content faster than what they were able to do on their own.

Zenimax had them shifting to live services and we got Redfall and Fallout 76, MS seems to have corrected that (and fixed FO76)

@R4gn4r0k: I mean, he really didn't have the cards on winning the war. Oh well🤷🏽‍♂️

So you want MORE rushed products from Bethesda flooding the market? You'll be making their downfall a self-fulfilling prophecy at that point

Okay, just who is this imposter that stole TC's account? ;o

lolol :P

@SecretPolice: It was Hardwenzen all along😱

@davillain:

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lolol :P

I don't mind the wait, that's about how long it takes for me to want to play another one of these. But along with the wait it would be nice if they were working on the tech too at the same time.

They probably shouldn't have wasted time with the online games like Fallout 76 and ESO though and just made the single player games people wanted. People keep forgetting these games exist anyway and they don't satisfy what people really wanted from the series.

Ummm no, if anything the most recent releases have shown a large team is not in Bethesda's best interests, Starfield in particular demonstrated just how important a unified vision is in delivering a completed project that also feels cohesive.

Starfield took them like 10 years and was one of the worst RPGs of all time. Not just worst BGS game. I repeat, one of the worst RPGs period. Even the latest CoD or Farcry had more gameplay variety in combat.

SF problem wasn't rushing, they took a long time to make that. It was flawed game design and just bad development start to finish.

Well, it would be interesting to see the amount of bugs a rushed bethesda games would have.

I'm more concerned with their budget than the time it takes. I know the two are somewhat related (longer time = more money), but I still think modern AAA games cost way too much to make and simply are not as fun as their independent and small-scale peers.

Yes, they have Hollywood voice actors and nice production values, but they just are not delivering on the fun aspect. We've de-gamified games and made it more "blockbuster wow-factor" than fun.

Fallout 4 is where Bethesda started feeling really lazy to me. The story structure and gameplay just felt old and rehashed.

Then they made the abomination that was Fallout 76. Both a terrible game and riddled with microtransactions.

Then they made the mediocre Starfield.

Between all that they released Skyrim like 10 more times, plus horrible mobile crap.

Forgive me for not being hyped by their next game.

It Just Works

This does not change the fact that Elder Scrolls has been in development since like 2017 at least if not sooner in some form.

I mean again example a studio like Warhorse put out Kingdom Come 2 in like 5 years and that game blows the doors off of basically all Bethesda games.

Doom The Dark Ages is 49 days away.

They are too stuck in their ways and unwilling to do the necessary work to move to a completely new engine.

I feel like they've been using the same terrible animation system since Oblivion and it shows. Almost like everyone with real ambition left the studio and the people who stayed are the complacent types who are happy with the status quo.

they just make some very bland games even if there are some interesting systems and ideas in them.

@R4gn4r0k: 😅

Go to the chatgpt subreddit; There is some new 4o model and they're just turning every meme into every available style:

Ghibli, claymation, south park, rick and morty style American Psycho, lmao

@R4gn4r0k: I'm glad they're finally doing something useful with AI

@girlusocrazy: I'm just glad we finally get to see politicians for the muppets they are 🤷‍♂️

I vote we change xbox7204life's pfp

Oblivion remake when Todd?

@R4gn4r0k: No need to change TC’s profile pic. You can’t get anymore comical then that. 🤣😂

Trump is the best president since Reagon.

@xbox7204life: Who is this “Reagon” that you speak of?

I see spelling is still your nemesis. 🤣😂🤦‍♂️

Hope Trump outlaws the PS5 in USA so Xbox can win.

Domestic console domination!

Game Pass Baby!!!!!!

Cows be crying begging Uncle Phil again LOL

Reagan

Nah no need it's not about a piece of plastic anymore it's about services and content and MS has already won that and will continue to win this going forward.

What about Indiana Jones? And I'm guessing the new Doom will be great. And what about the rumored Oblivion remaster?

No. Corporate money men NEED to stay out of the creative process.

Those are other sponsored type studios that are developing games much faster then actual Bethesda Studios. Bethesda themselves are milk gravy lazy these days.

The problem with Bethesda is that they are a one trick pony. They knew how to make large open worlds. But everyone else does that too. Except they have other strengths to add onto it

1. CD Project RED have excellent storytelling
2. Nintendo have excellent arcadey game mechanics
3. Rockstar hopelessly outclasses them in immersion and detail
4. Insomniac and Sucker Punch makes far more cinematic experiences, and nail the tone
5. People like that From Soft Open world game although I will never understand why.
6. Kojima Productions made traversal really fun

Even the TES skill system, raise-by-use. Is far better implemented in most other games that use it. Including The Elder Scrolls Online, which splits exp gain on your skills after combat, with exp gained being based on the mob.

He nearly banned League of Legends by accident.

League of Legends sucks. DOTA 2 was always less bad, but I always disliked MOBAs anyways so meh.

You couldn't have typed "Bethesda Game Studios" in your thread title or body? Who's lazier? Bethesda Game Studios or you?

KCD2 has shown up a lot of companies but none more than Bethesda. They're inept in comparison.

This isn't about me it's about Toddy Howdy and BethLazyda Studios!