Better story- MGS, Bioshock or Half Life?

[QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="FerdMertz"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Metal gear solid, the other 2 games lack depth in their stories.thegoldenpoo

so what can you take away from half life?

the story was concise but it was there (unlike the convoluted mess that is MGS4, i mean do you really want to have played through all the previous games to even get a vague idea of whats even going on?)

i personally think they purposely kept the plot points to a minimum as not to fracture the gameplay, a lesson that MGS needs in spades, nay, truck fulls.

lol way to avoid the question

MGS4 - I dont even understand whats happening in that game
Bioshock - havent played much but judging by the beginning the story seems better then MGS4

out of those 3, i'd say MGS

the story gets a bit convoluted, but i actually like that, and yet there's consistency in the MGS timeline .. past events link with future ones

plus, the characters are great .. hardly any dull ones, and they're all so complex and 3D, and so memorable

it's also great how the storylines tie in with real-life vents .. like MGS3 with the cold war, and more specific events like the cuban missile crisis .. it just adds to the realism and believability of the story

bioshock did have a good storyline, but we'll have to see how it evolves in the sequels and if it can stay consistently good .. but it also did have great character development

as for half-life, i actually find the main storyline pretty average .. it's just that the way half-life games reveal the story is really great and quite subtle (very different from MGS) ..basically, valve are great storytellers, but their stories aren't the best, IMO

[QUOTE="thegoldenpoo"][QUOTE="nippon_gamer"]

[QUOTE="FerdMertz"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Metal gear solid, the other 2 games lack depth in their stories.mistervengeance

so what can you take away from half life?

the story was concise but it was there (unlike the convoluted mess that is MGS4, i mean do you really want to have played through all the previous games to even get a vague idea of whats even going on?)

i personally think they purposely kept the plot points to a minimum as not to fracture the gameplay, a lesson that MGS needs in spades, nay, truck fulls.

lol way to avoid the question

go me! :D

im training to be a politician :P

oh sorry, in conclusion i think that its more about story telling than the amount of story. in that respect i think bioshock wions with its intreging backstory from a personal perspective using the audio diaries.

Halflife. It has the less is better approach. It doesn't shovel as much information as it can down your throat like MGS.

Bioshock had a decent story but it is too similar to System shock 2 (which is better), if you have previously played that game, it has less of a wow factor imo.

Bioshock had a trash storyline

Half Life 2 didnt have a storyline

In this order:

• MGS
• Bioshock
• Half Life

Although i dont think this is fair. MGS fleshes out the story over 4 games. If Bioshock were to have 3 or 4 games set in Rapture, i actually think i'd prefer that story over MGS. Its such a great setting to explore. Never cared much about the Half Life story though, i was actually more interested in Halo's story.

half-life? really? I thought the story was the least impressive part of half life. only the first 3 min of it was interesting. then it turned into a gov conspiracy bs with aliens. kinda lame.nippon_gamer

as opposed to government conspiracy bs with robots? couldn't help myself.

M8 , nothing can beat MGS story till now...

The only game that comes in my mind , that got extremely well done scenario and plot is FF7. Otherwise , who will win vs MGS? None... Byfar the best storyline in gaming with very few titles close to it.

M8 , nothing can beat MGS story till now...

The only game that comes in my mind , that got extremely well done scenario and plot is FF7. Otherwise , who will win vs MGS? None... Byfar the best storyline in gaming with very few titles close to it.

AzatiS

Metal Gear Solid does well at presenting story's, not story's themselves.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"]

M8 , nothing can beat MGS story till now...

The only game that comes in my mind , that got extremely well done scenario and plot is FF7. Otherwise , who will win vs MGS? None... Byfar the best storyline in gaming with very few titles close to it.

Kez1984

Metal Gear Solid does well at presenting story's, not story's themselves.

Take a game like Planescape Torment or Baldurs' Gate and it makes metal gear solid's writing look laughable.

Tell me your joking?.....

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

M8 , nothing can beat MGS story till now...

The only game that comes in my mind , that got extremely well done scenario and plot is FF7. Otherwise , who will win vs MGS? None... Byfar the best storyline in gaming with very few titles close to it.

AzatiS

Metal Gear Solid does well at presenting story's, not story's themselves.

Take a game like Planescape Torment or Baldurs' Gate and it makes metal gear solid's writing look laughable.

Tell me your joking?.....

I'll bet you a shiny coin you haven't even played Planescape Torement.

[QUOTE="AzatiS"][QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

M8 , nothing can beat MGS story till now...

The only game that comes in my mind , that got extremely well done scenario and plot is FF7. Otherwise , who will win vs MGS? None... Byfar the best storyline in gaming with very few titles close to it.

Kez1984

Metal Gear Solid does well at presenting story's, not story's themselves.

Take a game like Planescape Torment or Baldurs' Gate and it makes metal gear solid's writing look laughable.

Tell me your joking?.....

I'll bet you a shiny coin you haven't even played Planescape Torement.

And i bet 2 shiny coins you never touched MGS games.

Also my point isnt WHAT IS BEHIND the game , but what games theirselfs have to tell you. Because if we take why you saying as right then LORD OF THE RINGS ONLINE or Dungeons and Dragons Online >> ALL games ?? We are not talking about novels here. We are talking about what GAMES you actually playing have to tell you.

And i bet 2 shiny coins you never touched MGS games.

AzatiS

Nice Butt. War has Changed. Snake!!!!!!!! Come!!!!!! Let us join in battle!!!!! Oh noez, she cut her stomach were her baby was, oh noes, the patriots have kept her daughter, oh noez, he's self hypnotized and his hand isn't actually liquid, oh noes, they used the arm from his corpse, oh noes, He's actually your twin brother and you got all the dominant genes. Let's make outer-haven.

Yea, I haven't.

Ed: It's just my opinion, the game is like John Woo movies, everything oozes coolness, as a written peace of literature, Planescape Torement stomps on it, that's just my opinion, you don't have to agree with it.

[QUOTE="Kez1984"][QUOTE="AzatiS"]

M8 , nothing can beat MGS story till now...

The only game that comes in my mind , that got extremely well done scenario and plot is FF7. Otherwise , who will win vs MGS? None... Byfar the best storyline in gaming with very few titles close to it.

AzatiS

Metal Gear Solid does well at presenting story's, not story's themselves.

Take a game like Planescape Torment or Baldurs' Gate and it makes metal gear solid's writing look laughable.

Tell me your joking?.....

He isn't joking and I agree with him.

MGS has a convoluted story that is in dire need of an editor but it is still really good.

Bioshock is amazing for a while then it becomes kinda dodgy.

HL has IMO the stupidest story I've seen in a while and balances it with poor uninteresting gameplay less th physics engine

Bioshock had a weak story, especially since it wasn't original in any way, nor were the characters endearing.

I'm going with other, but out of those 3, MGS.Saturos3091

Structural similarities to SS2 =/= not original in any way; that's bull ****, and you know it.

Bioshock's story was very orginal; I challenge you to find me a piece of work from any medium that acts as a demonstrative counter argument to Atlas Shrugged.

You may try; you will fail.

Bioshock had the smartest and most in depth story out of HL and Bioshock (i havn't played MGS so i can't comment on that). It had many symbols and it was all about personal choice. It was a very political and philisophical game and if you didn't catch on to those things then i can understand why you thought the story was average. It even included Capitalism vs Communism and i thought that was really cool and the twist was awesome because i really liked Atlas.

I have to say though that I liked the characters in Half Life 2 better and i like the fact that Half Life 2 is very epic. It is like going on an adventure.

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Bioshock's story was very orginal

Kez1984

The story for Bioshock is very similar to System Shock 2. Regardless.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOFZ5fv_pb8

The way it plays out is the exact same. You work for the bad guy unknowingly against another third party, then you get the reveal, then, it eventually ends in you fighting the person you were helping all along. The team behind it even admitted it was a SS2 clone. It's not just similarity's int he way it is laid out and story.

Oh, come off it.

I've played the hell out of ****ing System Shock 2 and Bioshock, I don't need a lecture about the similarities from someone who probably hasn't beaten either game half as many times as I have.

The games are vastly different in terms of story. I don't give a rat's ass about the structural similarities (which are more of an homage than anything else) the settings are different, the themes are different, the writing has a much different tone, the characters have different motivations, and the stories being told are completely and totally seperate, and not the same in any way shape or form.

Looking at them from a distance you could say "look, they are similar", but given anything more than a cursory glance the stories suddenly look radically and completely different from one another.

Knowing what themes are being explored is important; come back to me when you can illustrate the ways in which System Shock 2 acts as a counter argument to Randian Objectivism.

People who say that Bioshock is a SS2 clone are just being lazy and not looking any deeper than the surface, and that goes for more than just the story.

half-life? really? I thought the story was the least impressive part of half life. only the first 3 min of it was interesting. then it turned into a gov conspiracy bs with aliens. kinda lame.nippon_gamer

The entire half life saga (HL, HL2, EP1, EP2) is amazing, I don't know what you're playing. Half life no contest, the use of total in game "cutscenes" and the overall feel and look of the world and the combine, the extensive lore and fantastic writing make it so amazing. You actually feel like you're accomplishing something and that you hav ean important role to play. Half life 2 has to be one of the best games of all time.

Half Life 2 had a great story, but it's only good if you read into the history, and interpret most of the other things yourself.

MGS has a pretty good story, though it's a bit cliche at times, and some moments ruin it for you. Such as when a certain person dies, and Otacon begins to cry, it sounds god-awful, and it makes you laugh, and focus on him, when you should be focusing on the freaking person's death!

BioShock had a great story, especially at the end, but it's only one game in a "series", and it was quite short, so the story left you wanting a bit more.

I don't give a rat's ass about the structural similarities (which are more of an homage than anything else)jethrovegas

It's the exact same with minor differences. I noticed it from start to finish, even with the intellectual pseudo crap.

I've played the hell out of ****ing System Shock 2 and Bioshock, I don't need a lecture about the similarities from someone who probably hasn't beaten either game half as many times as I have.jethrovegas

Get over yourself.

People who say that Bioshock is a SS2 clone are just being lazy and not looking any deeper than the surface, and that goes for more than just the story.

jethrovegas

http://kotaku.com/5019060/bioshock-shouldve-failed

The game in it's nature is lazy then.

MGS story was pretty awesome (except the last few parts of MGS4...).

MGS3 storyline was prolly the best storyline ever hands down.

Lost Odyssey and Mass Effect.

Seriously RPGs have the best stories in videogames.

Wow, what a great question!

The way Bioshock handles and presents the story can only be done within a video game (very unique). MGS has a way of telling the story like a movie. Bioshock has the best storytelling, but MGS4's story is better IMO.

EDIT: Bioshock and HL are similar in terms of storytelling.

http://kotaku.com/5019060/bioshock-shouldve-failed

The game in it's nature is lazy then.

Kez1984

That link just said that they were initially out to make an SS2 clone... why should I care about that? Levine even stated that the story was one of the last things they nailed down, and considering that the SS2 clone stuff was, and I quote, their "first major failure" logic would dictate that Levine and co. worked on Bioshock's story after they went through their "lets make an SS2 clone" stage.

Not that I need to know any of that backstory; I own both games, I've played both games, and aside from some shallow structural similarities, the games have entirely different stories.

You can post links all you want and refer to any story content that doesn't suit your argument's purpose as "intellectual pseudo crap" but that doesn't change the fact that the games have different stories that cover much different themes and ideas.

You people have it so deeply entrenched in your minds that Bioshock is an SS2 clone that you refuse to look at logic and reason; everything you say is reactionary.

Metal Gear Solid by a mile when compared to those 3. Bioshocks was solid and so was Half Lifes but you can't compare it to MGS.

Also, I'm very upset that no one has mentioned Eternal Darkness's amazing story.

I think it's evident from the posts in this thread that many do not understand or care to understand the HL2 story. It is, in fact, quite a nice in-depth story if you play the whole game plus the 2 episodes...RotaryRX7

Agreed.

half life

MGS has way too much

by the time the end ctscenes come up i usually end up skipping quite a few of them

Not that I need to know any of that backstory; I own both games, I've played both games, and aside from some shallow structural similarities, the games have entirely different stories.

jethrovegas

You make it sound like something small and insignificant, it isn't, it's a large part of the experience.

I find it odd that someone who has played Bioshock and System Shock 2 numerous times could initially go through Bioshock and not get struck by a major deja vu feeling as the game unraveled.

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Not that I need to know any of that backstory; I own both games, I've played both games, and aside from some shallow structural similarities, the games have entirely different stories.

Kez1984

You make it sound like something small and insignificant, it isn't, it's a large part of the experience.

I find it odd that someone who has played Bioshock and System Shock 2 numerous times could initially go through Bioshock and not get struck by a major deja vu feeling as the game unraveled.

I was too busy paying attention to the striking and unique world and the core elements of the story (plus, you know, the actual gameplay itself) to sit there and whine to myself about some structural homages.

Seriously, who gives a flying whiffle **** about whether or not the story unravels in a similar way? That's not even the point. Every other aspect of the story (setting, themes, ideas, message,) was fresh, and original, and not just for the medium.

Something has clouded your judgment here; possiby a deep-seated hatred for Bioshock?

[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"]I think it's evident from the posts in this thread that many do not understand or care to understand the HL2 story. It is, in fact, quite a nice in-depth story if you play the whole game plus the 2 episodes...TREAL_Since

Agreed.

BioShock is the most interesting

Metal Gear Solid has the most depth

Half-Life is the most intense

imho.

id say mgs4- i guess it was really crazy if u played all the games, and the twists were crazy and the ending was sick

bioshock- You should have said system shock since its really a redo with same twists, etc.

halflife- corny imo

MGS series is the best in story.

Give me a moment like this completed with this in a game then I would compare it with MGS.