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#1 Conjuredevil
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http://www.giantbomb.com/2008/07/02/the-company-you-keep/

the only reaction I have is HUH?wtf!? :|

As for the review!

Lots of games have explosions–with all the conflict and war being represented on various video game machines these days, I'd almost be willing to wager that there are more games that have explosions than games that don't. As a result, most standard destruction has become passe. Punching an exploding barrel just doesn't have the same thrill that it once did. That's why someone is always out there, working in secret on games that give explosions the respect they deserve. Sometimes, though, these games focus too much on the explosion, and the gameplay suffers as a result. So it's nice when all this stuff can co-exist. Battlefield: Bad Company has great-looking bangs, but the reason they're so thrilling is because they do more than just damage all nearby players, enemies, and vehicles. These explosions dig big divots in the environment, knock down fences, and blast holes in the sides of buildings, making them an exciting and useful gameplay addition that helps make the whole game better.

Bad Company also breaks tradition by being the first Battlefield game with a meaningful single-player mode. Instead of pitting you against bots or partnering you up with flat, uninteresting allies, Bad Company tells a charming story with characters who are fun to have at your side, making the whole thing feel a lot more alive. The story pits you in the role of a soldier as he becomes the fourth member of Bad Company, a tight crew of expendable misfits, brought together because they screwed up somewhere else. As such, you're sent in to do dirty work as a four-man crew against an army of mercenaries and Russians.

The mercenaries are where the story strays from the standard war tale and presses firmly into "Three Kings without all the messy political messages" territory. It seems that the mercenaries are part of a private army run by a man known as the Legionnaire, who only conducts business when gold is involved. With truckloads of gold around the region, your team quickly eschews duty, goes AWOL, and gets into the gold hunting business. The game tells most of its story through in-engine cutscenes, where the members of your team really come alive through a combination of clever dialogue, quality voice acting, and terrific visuals.

It's also neat that Bad Company manages to feel like a Battlefield game while still presenting you with a cohesive story and multiple objectives. With few exceptions, the game takes place on wide-open battlefields. You'll traverse long distances over the course of the game, which really gives it a sense of size and scope that you don't get from most other shooters. That said, there are limits to this wide-open freedom, as the edges of the current area are closed off. If you travel into these darker areas of the map, a five-second timer pops up, and you're killed (by enemy artillery, the game claims) if you stay outside the lines until time expires. That feels a little artificial, but never comes across like a huge restriction.

That feeling of freedom extends to your tactical options. The game contains a large number of different weapons, which you'll find on dead enemies or laying around in houses. These weapons are technically two weapons, since some of them come with a barrel-mounted grenade launcher, while others arm you with a pistol as a secondary weapon or let you toss grenades. You can also carry a secondary item, which includes a power tool that can fix vehicles, C4 explosives, rocket launchers, laser designators for calling in missile strikes, and so on. The game liberally sprinkles ammo crates across the entire game, giving you plenty of opportunities to blow up anything and everything.

And that's what makes Battlefield: Bad Company so much fun. Many sections of the game have you working your way through a bunch of small, enemy-filled houses. While you could crawl through windows or look for doors to make your way from one house to the next, it's way faster and way more fun to just blast holes in walls and leave a path of scorched Earth in your wake. While you can't quite take down an entire building, you can blow most walls and roofs completely apart, denying your enemy cover in the process. The devastation is useful and it also looks fantastic, which is a winning combination.

The dynamic destruction of Bad Company also carries over to the multiplayer side. Online, the game becomes a bit more traditional, offering a ****of ****based multiplayer with unlockable weapons for each **** While you could argue that playing with preset ****s in a post-Call of Duty 4 world is a bit dated, the differences between the ****s are meaningful and interesting. Even the support **** which does double duty as both a medic and an engineer, is fun to play, largely because he also gets the ability to call in mortar strikes and wields a light machine gun.

The multiplayer mode in Bad Company is called Gold Rush, and it's slightly different from the standard Conquest mode that Battlefield is known for. The teams are assigned to attacker and defender roles. The attacking team has to blow up two gold crates that the defending team must fight to protect. The defenders win if they can drain the attacking team's respawn meter. If the attackers get both gold crates, they earn more respawns and push the defenders back to another set of gold crates, and then another. So if the attackers can push the defenders back and destroy all the crates, they win. If the defenders drain their enemy's respawn meter, they win.

It makes for an interesting struggle, and the open areas and vehicle-enabled gameplay that you'd expect to find in a Battlefield game is present, though the vehicle control does take some getting used to. There are plenty of houses and other buildings to hide in or blow up, and overall, the maps feel just right for the 24-player limit.

As you play online ranked matches, you earn experience points that grant you additional ranks. You also earn unlock points when you gain a rank, which you can use to unlock three more items per ****ndash;two primary weapons and one special item, such as a health recharger, mortar strike, anti-tank mines, and so on. There are also ten weapons in multiplayer–two per ****ndash;that can't be selected under normal circumstances. One set is the gold set, which are given to players who purchase the Gold Edition version of the game for an extra $10. If you don't get this version, you still earn these weapons when you hit the level cap at rank 25.

The other set is a little more insidious, as it requires you to jump through a mess of marketing behavior-oriented hoops. One weapon is earned for pre-ordering the game (so if you're reading this and thinking about buying the game, it's already too late). Another you get for signing up for the Bad Company newsletter. Another is earned for playing the demo version of the game and ranking up to level four. The whole thing feels cheap and filthy, though the good news is that these weapons don't really feel very necessary, either. After unlocking every other weapon, you'll have six primary weapons to choose from. While I wasn't able to unlock all of these guns and see them for myself, the statistics given for their accuracy, handling, rate of fire, and so on don't make them sound like must-have equipment.

Between its easy-to-enjoy multiplayer and the romp that is the single-player campaign, Battlefield: Bad Company is an easy game to like. It looks great, has fun characters, a load of interesting weaponry, and works nicely whether you're playing alone or with a squad. The campaign lasts long enough to feel fulfilling, and the multiplayer kept me coming back once that was complete

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AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.
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#3 epic_pets
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Whats wrong with the review?
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And.....in come the Gerstmann haters.
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#5 BatmanBegins24
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A 5/5 can be equivalent to about a 9. And it's a great game.The second best Battlefield game (2 will always be the best). And it has by far the best singleplayer of any Battlefield game.
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#6 W1NGMAN-
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Well there goes any gratification of MGS4 getting a 5/5 on Giantbomb.com
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#7 Conjuredevil
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Whats wrong with the review?epic_pets

AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.dgsag

I used to like him!! but 5/5 is high for this game!! even if by high standards it deserves 4.5/5 at highest!! I mean c'mon!SSBB got 4/5 there but BF:BC gets 5/5!!

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#8 BatmanBegins24
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Whats wrong with the review?epic_pets

You mean YOU do not take him seriously anymore. His site gets thousands of views, and is featured on many video game blogs. And 3 other previous gamespot workers are there helping to build the site. So you don't care about Ryan Davis, Brad Shoemaker, or Vinny Caravella?

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#9 BatmanBegins24
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[QUOTE="epic_pets"]Whats wrong with the review?Conjuredevil

AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.dgsag

I used to like him!! but 5/5 is high for this game!! even if by high standards it deserves 4.5/5 at highest!! I mean c'mon!SSBB got 4/5 there but BF:BC gets 5/5!!

First of all, have you played the game? Second, they don't go by a .5 scale. it's either a 4 or a 5.

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#10 Conjuredevil
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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

[QUOTE="epic_pets"]Whats wrong with the review?BatmanBegins24

AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.dgsag

I used to like him!! but 5/5 is high for this game!! even if by high standards it deserves 4.5/5 at highest!! I mean c'mon!SSBB got 4/5 there but BF:BC gets 5/5!!

First of all, have you played the game? Second, they don't go by a .5 scale. it's either a 4 or a 5.

yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

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#11 skrat_01
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Who cares about Giant bomb, who cares about Gertsmann.

Let the man die into internet obscurity already, his lime light is long gone.

"Look its Giant bomb, its totally run by the guy we used to flame at for his rediculous reviews! Remember when he was fired and we all suddenly cared about him!"

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#12 SpruceCaboose
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yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

Conjuredevil

5/5 does not equate to a perfect game on their scale. Its like a movie reviewer giving a film 4 stars. Does not mean its perfect, but that they found the entertainment fun and enjoyable on a very high level.

This is exactly why I hate review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

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#13 Brainkiller05
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Who cares about Giant bomb, who cares about Gertsmann.

Let the man die into internet obscurity already, his lime light is long gone.

"Look its Giant bomb, its totally run by the guy we used to flame at for his rediculous reviews! Remember when he was fired and we all suddenly cared about him!"

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Jeff, Ryan, Vinny, Brad... oh wait that's everyone that made gamespot interesting review/hotspot/on the spot-wise.
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#14 skrat_01
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This is exactly why I have review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

SpruceCaboose

Agree on this, the problem is if it isnt a scoring system, than many games can simply call under a five star category, resulting in much lower standards.

Personally I think a out of ten ratio works perfectly, however a 5 being the average, 4 being below average.
With games rating systems 5 seems to be simply terrible, and 6 mediocre/average.

PC gaming magazine PC Powerplay uses that system, and its pretty much perfect, as you get a score as a quick indication and a critique, to determine the games quality in depth, and there isnt small margins to determine what makes a 94% better than a 95%.

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#15 PullTheTricker
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Why is there so much hostility towards giantbomb? Jeff Gerstmann and Ryan Davis write excellent reviews tbh.

Reviews have changed - with ID-Tagged reviewers with ID-Tagged computers carrying ID-Tagged games with ID-Tagged console

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Haha, sig worthy.

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I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

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#17 jaisimar_chelse
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Well there goes any gratification of MGS4 getting a 5/5 on Giantbomb.comW1NGMAN-

:lol: why do review sites use a 5 scale anyways . IMO its more complicated

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I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

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Not gunna happen :P and people are loyal to Jeff cause he made this site what it is and has been here for 10 years, just to get fired.
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#19 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

Brainkiller05

Not gunna happen :P and people are loyal to Jeff cause he made this site what it is and has been here for 10 years, just to get fired.

I remember when everyone hated Jeff, but then they all of a sudden started to like him once he got fired.

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#20 jaisimar_chelse
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I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

DeathScape666

nuh uh

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#21 Brainkiller05
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

DeathScape666

Not gunna happen :P and people are loyal to Jeff cause he made this site what it is and has been here for 10 years, just to get fired.

I remember when everyone hated Jeff, but then they all of a sudden started to like him once he got fired.

I don't remember that, however I never really came to system wars back then so I suppose I never saw the review hate.
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#22 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

Brainkiller05

Not gunna happen :P and people are loyal to Jeff cause he made this site what it is and has been here for 10 years, just to get fired.

I remember when everyone hated Jeff, but then they all of a sudden started to like him once he got fired.

I don't remember that, however I never really came to system wars back then so I suppose I never saw the review hate.

You hear tales about it.

Heck THPS3 10/10, the LoZ:TP fiasco ect. ect.

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#23 deactivated-5f4694ac412a8
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[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="DeathScape666"]

I didn't read the review because I don't understand why I would give a crap about Jeff Gerstman or Ryan Davis. I never liked those guys, and I don't understand why everyone all of a sudden does. Alex Navarro was awesome, though.

I just hope his site dies and no one visits it.

Brainkiller05

Not gunna happen :P and people are loyal to Jeff cause he made this site what it is and has been here for 10 years, just to get fired.

I remember when everyone hated Jeff, but then they all of a sudden started to like him once he got fired.

I don't remember that, however I never really came to system wars back then so I suppose I never saw the review hate.

You should've been here after the Twilight Princess review.

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#24 Conjuredevil
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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

SpruceCaboose

5/5 does not equate to a perfect game on their scale. Its like a movie reviewer giving a film 4 stars. Does not mean its perfect, but that they found the entertainment fun and enjoyable on a very high level.

This is exactly why I hate review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

Well I agree with what you said ! But havin only a 5 scale system and that too without .5 rating is a lil confusing and somewhat less elaborative, jeff and ryan have been reviewing games since a very long they should know that they need a better rating system than this.

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#25 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

Conjuredevil

5/5 does not equate to a perfect game on their scale. Its like a movie reviewer giving a film 4 stars. Does not mean its perfect, but that they found the entertainment fun and enjoyable on a very high level.

This is exactly why I hate review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

Well I agree with what you said ! But havin only a 5 scale system and that too without .5 rating is a lil confusing and somewhat less elaborative, jeff and ryan have been reviewing games since a very long they should know that they need a better rating system than this.

Problem is what makes a 94% game better than a 95% game?

That is where the system is at fault.

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#26 lafigueroa
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Why don't you guys actually READ the review for once instead of complaining about the score. It's a very well written review.
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Yup, this game is definitely no 5/5. 3/5 tops!
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#28 Shinobishyguy
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AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.dgsag
Agreed. He gets the whole folk hero treatment....but in reality he's just another reviewer. An overrated one at that.
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#29 Burnsmiesta
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People will always hate on something or someone. Its rather sad.
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[QUOTE="epic_pets"]Whats wrong with the review?Conjuredevil

AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.dgsag

I used to like him!! but 5/5 is high for this game!! even if by high standards it deserves 4.5/5 at highest!! I mean c'mon!SSBB got 4/5 there but BF:BC gets 5/5!!

SSBB was average and had little replay value or incentive to play. BBFC has tons of that. It also has a very good single player mode (SSBB didn't have that at all) and a very good online component (which SSBB tried to have but failed). It deserves every bit of praise it gets.

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#31 Saturos3091
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I've never liked Gerstmann. Gerstmanngate was more of a pathetic move on Gamespot's part. I was more sad that a "professional critic's website" would do something so pathetically low, but when you think about it things like this happen in every form of media/entertainment.

That review seems a bit high. They're not my first choice for reviews anyway (I myself am :)).
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#32 mattzz10
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I like this scale more because it forces you to read the review instead of just looking at the score it gives. And by their system 5/5 does not mean perfect.
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#33 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="epic_pets"]Whats wrong with the review?Conjuredevil

AS sad Gertsmanngate was, nobody takes him seriously anymore anyway.dgsag

I used to like him!! but 5/5 is high for this game!! even if by high standards it deserves 4.5/5 at highest!! I mean c'mon!SSBB got 4/5 there but BF:BC gets 5/5!!

Oh boohoo, he thinks a bit higher of a game than you deem sensible. 0.5 points even! Obviously he has lost all credibility and should be disregarded. And he was such a likeable guy before this unbelievable travesty. This horrible incident makes me question his professionalism. You have to think what I think Gerstmann. Why can't you understand that?

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#34 InsaneBasura
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

Conjuredevil

5/5 does not equate to a perfect game on their scale. Its like a movie reviewer giving a film 4 stars. Does not mean its perfect, but that they found the entertainment fun and enjoyable on a very high level.

This is exactly why I hate review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

Well I agree with what you said ! But havin only a 5 scale system and that too without .5 rating is a lil confusing and somewhat less elaborative, jeff and ryan have been reviewing games since a very long they should know that they need a better rating system than this.

1 - Crap.
2 - Bad.
3 - Ok.
4 - Good.
5 - Great.

What's so hard to understand? If anything it's simplified. And what more do you need to know? It's not good enough to know that a game is good? You need to know what kind of good it is? Why?

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[QUOTE="Conjuredevil"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

InsaneBasura

5/5 does not equate to a perfect game on their scale. Its like a movie reviewer giving a film 4 stars. Does not mean its perfect, but that they found the entertainment fun and enjoyable on a very high level.

This is exactly why I hate review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

Well I agree with what you said ! But havin only a 5 scale system and that too without .5 rating is a lil confusing and somewhat less elaborative, jeff and ryan have been reviewing games since a very long they should know that they need a better rating system than this.

1 - Crap.
2 - Bad.
3 - Ok.
4 - Good.
5 - Great.

What's so hard to understand? If anything it's simplified. And what more do you need to know? It's not good enough to know that a game is good? You need to know what kind of good it is? Why?

It's almost as if he could read a review to find out what type of good it is. If only they also provided text reviews... hmm...

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#36 Fusible
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I like the single player a lot better than the MP. COD4 still rules the MP arena on console.
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#37 Conjuredevil
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[QUOTE="InsaneBasura"][QUOTE="Conjuredevil"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Conjuredevil"]

yes I have played it and I dont comment on a game until I have played it!!

and if they dont score by .5 system then 4/5 would be most appropriate because 5/5 gives the impression of being the best in its genre at the moment.

supercubedude64

5/5 does not equate to a perfect game on their scale. Its like a movie reviewer giving a film 4 stars. Does not mean its perfect, but that they found the entertainment fun and enjoyable on a very high level.

This is exactly why I hate review scores. Not because I feel they are biased or whatever, but simply because everyone only looks at the number, and no one bothers to read teh review for what it really is, a critique.

Instead, everyone wants it to be a grade or a ranking....

Well I agree with what you said ! But havin only a 5 scale system and that too without .5 rating is a lil confusing and somewhat less elaborative, jeff and ryan have been reviewing games since a very long they should know that they need a better rating system than this.

1 - Crap.
2 - Bad.
3 - Ok.
4 - Good.
5 - Great.

What's so hard to understand? If anything it's simplified. And what more do you need to know? It's not good enough to know that a game is good? You need to know what kind of good it is? Why?

It's almost as if he could read a review to find out what type of good it is. If only they also provided text reviews... hmm...

after being in system wars do you think EVERYONE would read reviews? we bunch of people who read reviews dont constitute to thise who live and die by scores/ratings!!! we can read the review and find out what it is but they need a more elaborative system for those who dont READ the reviews.thats all I am trying to say.

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#38 x_SuperMario_x
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I've never liked a scoring system based on 5 stars.

It's harder to stay consistent.

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#39 WilliamRLBaker
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no game ever deserves a 5/5 or a 10/10.