BF3 built primarly for DX11 XP and DX9 not supported!

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#1 mayceV
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http://bf3blog.com/2010/12/battlfield-3-wont-support-windows-xp/

read it and weep xp lovers. It's time to upgrade and leave outdated OS's behiend. You are holding PC gaming back. stop holding PC gaming back.

(JK about a few things)

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#2 lawlessx
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interesting news,but Dice still needs to show some sort of proof that battlefield 3 is a true sequel to BF2.
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#3 DarkerKamikaze
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Wasn't this already known? I'll upgrade to Windows 7 by the time BF3 comes out anyway, no big deal :P.

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#4 HavocV3
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I want to know how their damage modeling and environment destruction will turn out.

hoping it's mind-blowing...because I'm a real sucker for destruction:P

could be an insta-buy just based on that.

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#5 hd5870corei7
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I want to know how their damage modeling and environment destruction will turn out.

hoping it's mind-blowing...because I'm a real sucker for destruction:P

could be an insta-buy just based on that.

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BF3 will be a beast, for surre.
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#6 lawlessx
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Wasn't this already known? I'll upgrade to Windows 7 by the time BF3 comes out anyway, no big deal :P.

DarkerKamikaze

it was known that the game would support DX11..not that XP users are getting left out in the rain.:P

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#7 dkdk999
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I want to know how their damage modeling and environment destruction will turn out.

hoping it's mind-blowing...because I'm a real sucker for destruction:P

could be an insta-buy just based on that.

HavocV3
is there going to be destruction ? It's weird if it will. I mean why not just call it bad company 3 if it's going to have destruction.
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#8 o0squishy0o
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I wouldnt get to hyped for this just yet. It sounds like they might just lock out the DX9 features for PC gamers. I mean this is ment to be in development for consoles as well? and they will bring in more sales most likely combined. I guess we will have to wait to see what this turns out to be like. I hope its a beast of a game but not to beasty that it requires insaine computers to run it at full settings etc.

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#9 CPM_basic
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BF3 is the only game that will make me upgrade to Windows 7. Windows XP has been good to me, haven't spent a dime on a new OS in a long time and I still run all the games I want, and able to do everything I need to do on my PC.

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#10 Racer_XLR
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Meh. I'm sure I'll have Windows 7 by the time this comes out. Hell, I'm sure I'll have it by the time Dragon Age 2 comes out. . .
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I wouldnt get to hyped for this just yet. It sounds like they might just lock out the DX9 features for PC gamers. I mean this is ment to be in development for consoles as well? and they will bring in more sales most likely combined. I guess we will have to wait to see what this turns out to be like. I hope its a beast of a game but not to beasty that it requires insaine computers to run it at full settings etc.

o0squishy0o

Remember, the Frostbite 2.0 engine is being built for native DX11 (or DX10) while the Frostbite engine is the ones on the consoles.

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#12 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

I wouldnt get to hyped for this just yet. It sounds like they might just lock out the DX9 features for PC gamers. I mean this is ment to be in development for consoles as well? and they will bring in more sales most likely combined. I guess we will have to wait to see what this turns out to be like. I hope its a beast of a game but not to beasty that it requires insaine computers to run it at full settings etc.

Wasdie

Remember, the Frostbite 2.0 engine is being built for native DX11 (or DX10) while the Frostbite engine is the ones on the consoles.

2.0 is for both consoles, 2.0 according to devs is mostly alot more optimized, it would be suicide to use 1.5 on consoles when a better performance is achieved with 2.0
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#13 danjammer69
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Good.

This is what my tax return will go to.

My last built PC in 2005 was for BF2, the next will be for BF3.

I just have to re-learn how to play shooters on PC again. I have gotten so used to shooters on the DualShock3

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well xp users must be pissed . This is good news for high end gamers as xp has held back pc gaming a bit .

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I wouldnt get to hyped for this just yet. It sounds like they might just lock out the DX9 features for PC gamers. I mean this is ment to be in development for consoles as well? and they will bring in more sales most likely combined. I guess we will have to wait to see what this turns out to be like. I hope its a beast of a game but not to beasty that it requires insaine computers to run it at full settings etc.

o0squishy0o
DX9 is an abstraction layer, consoles can circumvent abstraction layers, so DX doesn't really apply to consoles, not to mention the same mechanics are probablly still apart of dx11, it just has several extra features, they just want you to believe there are big differences, so you'll upgrade operating systems.
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#16 Kokuro_Kun
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I already have 7 so this is only good news to me. I dont see the point in using XP anymore, its ugly and you cant fully optimize your computers hardware as much as you want.
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#17 Fizzman
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I will already have x2 5870's by then so im looking forward to seeing a true DX11 game. Hopefully I can max it out. If not we go trifire and hopefully my CPU doesn't bottleneck the GPU's.

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#18 NaveedLife
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Yeah this was pretty much known as Dice was excited about DX11 on PC, the cell (or something I cant remember) on the PS3, and they didnt really say there was anything special about the 360 :P.

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#19 danjammer69
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well xp users must be pissed . This is good news for high end gamers as xp has held back pc gaming a bit .

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Yeah but Windows 7 really is the way to go now. I understood holding off on Vista and keeping XP, but 7 is so damned good and solid now I don't see the reason not to upgrade...well, except for money.
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#20 Crazyguy105
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Well I guess it's time to leave XP behind. :P

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#21 ronvalencia
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

I wouldnt get to hyped for this just yet. It sounds like they might just lock out the DX9 features for PC gamers. I mean this is ment to be in development for consoles as well? and they will bring in more sales most likely combined. I guess we will have to wait to see what this turns out to be like. I hope its a beast of a game but not to beasty that it requires insaine computers to run it at full settings etc.

savagetwinkie

DX9 is an abstraction layer, consoles can circumvent abstraction layers, so DX doesn't really apply to consoles, not to mention the same mechanics are probablly still apart of dx11, it just has several extra features, they just want you to believe there are big differences, so you'll upgrade operating systems.

Not all cases, e.g.

1. SPU MLAA's existance on PS3 = incompetent HDR FP + MSAA. Workaround for RSX issue.

2. Log encoded HDR's existance on PS3 = incompetent HDR FP + MSAA. Workaround for RSX issue.

Onsomecases, the limitation is on the actual hardware.

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#22 deactivated-660c2894dc19c
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I think PC users have used to upgrade their hardware and software because of new games. I don't have problems with this. I got Win 7 with my new PC.

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#23 Firebird-5
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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]

I wouldnt get to hyped for this just yet. It sounds like they might just lock out the DX9 features for PC gamers. I mean this is ment to be in development for consoles as well? and they will bring in more sales most likely combined. I guess we will have to wait to see what this turns out to be like. I hope its a beast of a game but not to beasty that it requires insaine computers to run it at full settings etc.

savagetwinkie

DX9 is an abstraction layer, consoles can circumvent abstraction layers, so DX doesn't really apply to consoles, not to mention the same mechanics are probablly still apart of dx11, it just has several extra features, they just want you to believe there are big differences, so you'll upgrade operating systems.

what you think every console developer developes in machine codes while referring to the provided instruction set book for the GPUs??? lmfao

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#24 deactivated-5b4ca38d5fcb0
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People still use xp? ;)

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#25 IcyToasters
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This has been known for months, and still doesn't mean that they'll do BF3 right.

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#26 ZombeGoast
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Great now majority of the people won't get to play BF3.

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#27 GulliversTravel
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MS killed DX10 by not supporting it for XP, its not the gamers fault that its an otherwise perfectly usable OS.
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#28 vkun
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I think the dinosaurs were still around when this news was reported.

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#29 Hakkai007
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MS killed DX10 by not supporting it for XP, its not the gamers fault that its an otherwise perfectly usable OS.GulliversTravel

The OS is rather outdated and not as much driver support.

Windows 7 runs just as good if not better in some areas and it has great driver support.

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#30 mitu123
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Great news, now we can see the PC version full potential, it's the only version I want to get after all.

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#31 DudeNtheRoom
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I never liked BF2 . Something about a gernade not killing the person you're shooting at really makes me dislike it.
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#32 Brendissimo35
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It's good news, but the gameplay could still easily be consolized.

I'm also still waiting on my 128 player maps, which were originally going to be included in BF2.

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#33 MIYAMOTOnext007
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great news, hopefully this will be like BF2, which was technically far ahead of the console games at the time. (in 2005 with the xbox, Cube, and PS2 gen):P

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#34 Iantheone
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Sweet. Ill be upgrading to a DX11 card pretty soon :P
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#35 Raymundo_Manuel
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I will be buying this :)


Now the last time I played Battlefield 2 was around the time it came out, but you know what? I don't even know what about that game I liked...I truly just don't know, but I do know that I would head to my friends house unannounced just to hijack his PC to play it :P

Let's hope this turns out nicely :)

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#37 Iantheone
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[QUOTE="mayceV"]

http://bf3blog.com/2010/12/battlfield-3-wont-support-windows-xp/

read it and weep xp lovers. It's time to upgrade and leave outdated OS's behiend. You are holding PC gaming back. stop holding PC gaming back.

(JK about a few things)

Brownesque
I'm not spending $200 just to play one ****ing game. DICE can suck me off.

So long as you have Vista or Win7 you can still play DX11 games with a DX10 card.
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#38 Mr_BillGates
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Just grab a cheap copy from your local school. $25 Genuine WIN 7 Ultimate ftw.

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BF3 is the only game that will make me upgrade to Windows 7. Windows XP has been good to me, haven't spent a dime on a new OS in a long time and I still run all the games I want, and able to do everything I need to do on my PC.

CPM_basic

You're missing out. Windows 7 is amazing. I never had Vista, but upgrading to Windows 7 after XP was one of the best things I ever did. It was worth every penny.

Games actually ran faster in 7 with the same hardware I was using before the upgrade in XP.

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#40 Dante2710
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We`ll see how it turns out, hopefully us peasants with DX10 cards wont be stuck with blocky shadows again.
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#41 JetB1ackNewYear
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great news, hopefully this will be like BF2, which was technically far ahead of the console games at the time. (in 2005 with the xbox, Cube, and PS2 gen):P

MIYAMOTOnext007

the memories "hearts" i hope its just like 2!!

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#42 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="mayceV"]

http://bf3blog.com/2010/12/battlfield-3-wont-support-windows-xp/

read it and weep xp lovers. It's time to upgrade and leave outdated OS's behiend. You are holding PC gaming back. stop holding PC gaming back.

(JK about a few things)

Brownesque
I'm not spending $200 just to play one ****ing game. DICE can suck me off.

XP is a bit old dude. I think it is time to move on. Not really unreasonable. This game will be amazing, so your loss :)
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#43 kozzy1234
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YES!!!!!!!! :)

Just got a DX11 card finally and man im enjoying it, hope more games use dx11 in the future (:

Tried Metro today in Dx11, wow.. its like a whole new game from when I was playing it in DX10/DX9.

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#44 kozzy1234
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I think PC users have used to upgrade their hardware and software because of new games. I don't have problems with this. I got Win 7 with my new PC.

Icarian

Little off topic but I see you are playing Drakensang, enjoying it? I found it to be a nice little under the radar rpg ;)

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#45 Cranler
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[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]

Wasn't this already known? I'll upgrade to Windows 7 by the time BF3 comes out anyway, no big deal :P.

lawlessx

it was known that the game would support DX11..not that XP users are getting left out in the rain.:P

Wrong

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/14494-battlefield-3-leaving-dx-9-behind-frostbite-2-engine-good-news-for-pc-gamers/

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#46 Cranler
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well xp users must be pissed . This is good news for high end gamers as xp has held back pc gaming a bit .

dontshackzmii
How are xp users holding pc gaming back? Pc game devs never waited on anyone to upgrade before this console gen. Its consoles that are holding back pc gaming.
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#47 millerlight89
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its like a whole new game from when I was playing it in DX10/DX9.

kozzy1234

Really? The only difference I see from dx9 to 10, 11 is DoF. I mean you have Tess and Adv. DoF for dx11, but those hardly add anything imo. Everything else stays the same from 9 to 11.

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#48 Cranler
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Great now majority of the people won't get to play BF3.

ZombeGoast

Only 25% of steam users have xp and odds are most those pc's probably cant even run Bad Company 2 let alone BF3.

BF2 didnt supporta 10 year old os either, in fact it didnt even support win 98.

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#49 mariokart64fan
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win7 64 bit is lame , dont get it ,

get 32 bit version if you can but ya time to leave xp behind for vista or 7 , i like my vista better lol

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#50 millerlight89
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win7 64 bit is lame , dont get it ,

get 32 bit version if you can but ya time to leave xp behind for vista or 7 , i like my vista better lol

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Excuse me, but what? If you have 4gb of ram, you need 64bit. Don't tell people to get the 32bit version.