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Not really though.BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
Kan0nF0dder
[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Not really though. Yea really. I like BO, but it is no where near the game BC2 is.BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
SaltyMeatballs
BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
Kan0nF0dder
pretty much this.
BFs have a strategic element in them. it's not just running and blasting. you actually have to think about your approach if you wan't your team to win.
[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]
BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
groowagon
pretty much this.
BFs have a strategic element in them. it's not just running and blasting.
Yea. S&D is the closest to strategy CoD players see. Though it seemed to lose some of the tactical planning as people continued to play it.[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Not really though. Yea really. I like BO, but it is no where near the game BC2 is. Yeah it is. I also liked BC2.BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
millerlight89
[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Not really though. Afraid so, tactical warfare, better balance, harder gunplay, destruction of environment ensures variation game to game, superior playerbase, free map packs, DICE's map design skills, need I go on?BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
SaltyMeatballs
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Not really though. Afraid so, tactical warfare, better balance, harder gunplay, destruction of environment ensures variation game to game, superior playerbase, free map packs, DICE's map design skills, need I go on? Balance is not better, harder my ass, I stopped playing after owning noobs for months with the M60 God Weapon. Maps worse than BC1. Yes, please go on.BFBC2 absolutely slaughters Black Ops. It's like a burly jock fighting the class asberger's kid. :|
Kan0nF0dder
What about BFBC2 being balanced? What do you like better anyway?You have to be a complete idiot to recommend BFBC2 over Black Ops. Hands down, Black Ops multiplayer is one of the top three most balanced experiences I've had in any online game across any console.
The other two being Unreal Championship for original Xbox, and Counter-Strike Source for PC.
AMitch24
Maps worse than BC1. Yes, please go on.SaltyMeatballsNot sure about that, but the maps in BC2 are fantastic. BO has some nice maps, but Nuketown, Hanoi, and Jungle are some of the worst maps I have ever endured.
I have not played BO yet, and while I do enjoy BC2 as I'm a Rank 50 in it, it does have a lot of flaws that not many point out.
Hit detection issues-I got shot in the head and didn't die, I got shot a point blank range with a shot gun and didn't die, I got hit by a RPG and didn't die, I got shot 1st and then I ended up shooting the person who shot me without me dying, and the same applies to others.
It's glitchy-That knife glitch is stupid, you make contact with a enemy and it doesn't even work sometimes, and I get knifed because of that. C4 glitch where the C4 doesn't detonate. Tank mine glitch where they disappear for no reason. Ammo glitch where you start with no ammo and have to kill yourself to get ammo again. And more glitches that I'll try to remember.
Odd map design-I like some maps, but others are just painful to play and are not designed well, the worst offender is Rush on White Pass, my god is that a bad map.
Barely any options/content-Subjective, but really, compared to Battlefield 2, it's lacking.
The Squad modes are TOTALLY worthless-Rather have bots than that.
Campaign-The single player isn't that great to me, COD games had better campaigns, maybe not MW2.:P
BFBC 2 is better because...
1. Gun realism
2. Map structure feels more like a real battlefield
3. Vehicles
4. Immersion
5. Destruction!!!
6. Class based gameplay.
The hit detection is a mess I have to agree. IDk about map desighn though. For the most part, I love every map. I will agree that Rush doesn't work well on all of them though, for instance White Pass and I personally think Cold War is the worst map yet.I have not played BO yet, and while I do enjoy BC2 as I'm a Rank 50 in it, it does have a lot of flaws that not many point out.
Hit detection issues-I got shot in the head and didn't die, I got shot a point blank range with a shot gun and didn't die, I got hit by a RPG and didn't die, I got shot 1st and then I ended up shooting the person who shot me without me dying, and the same applies to others.
It's glitchy-That knife glitch is stupid, you make contact with a enemy and it doesn't even work sometimes, and I get knifed because of that. C4 glitch where the C4 doesn't detonate. Tank mine glitch where they disappear for no reason. Ammo glitch where you start with no ammo and have to kill yourself to get ammo again. And more glitches that I'll try to remember.
Odd map design-I like some maps, but others are just painful to play and are not designed well, the worst offender is Rush on White Pass, my god is that a bad map.
Barely any options/content-Subjective, but really, compared to Battlefield 2, it's lacking.
The Squad modes are TOTALLY worthless-Rather have bots than that.
Campaign-The single player isn't that great to me, COD games had better campaigns, maybe not MW2.:P
mitu123
The squad modes are actually great if you play with 3 friends. Spend more time playing those now than rush. Can't argue with your points on it being glitchy - It is - but I live with it cause the gameplay is so awesome.I have not played BO yet, and while I do enjoy BC2 as I'm a Rank 50 in it, it does have a lot of flaws that not many point out.
Hit detection issues-I got shot in the head and didn't die, I got shot a point blank range with a shot gun and didn't die, I got hit by a RPG and didn't die, I got shot 1st and then I ended up shooting the person who shot me without me dying, and the same applies to others.
It's glitchy-That knife glitch is stupid, you make contact with a enemy and it doesn't even work sometimes, and I get knifed because of that. C4 glitch where the C4 doesn't detonate. Tank mine glitch where they disappear for no reason. Ammo glitch where you start with no ammo and have to kill yourself to get ammo again. And more glitches that I'll try to remember.
Odd map design-I like some maps, but others are just painful to play and are not designed well, the worst offender is Rush on White Pass, my god is that a bad map.
Barely any options/content-Subjective, but really, compared to Battlefield 2, it's lacking.
The Squad modes are TOTALLY worthless-Rather have bots than that.
Campaign-The single player isn't that great to me, COD games had better campaigns, maybe not MW2.:P
mitu123
[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] BC2 puts you in the middle of what feels like a full blown war. SaltyMeatballsOh right, opinions vs opinions. I originally called out Kan0nF0dder because of the cocky nature of his post.
Sorry about that, was trying to raise a smile, rather than being totally serious. :oops:
[QUOTE="mitu123"]The squad modes are actually great if you play with 3 friends. Spend more time playing those now than rush. Can't argue with your points on it being glitchy - It is - but I live with it cause the gameplay is so awesome. Those squad modes are more for fun than ranking up, and it's obviously designed with friends anytime the game puts you in a match as you wait for others to be in a squad, plus there isn't much to choose from compared to Conquest and Rush, the only modes I really play.I have not played BO yet, and while I do enjoy BC2 as I'm a Rank 50 in it, it does have a lot of flaws that not many point out.
Hit detection issues-I got shot in the head and didn't die, I got shot a point blank range with a shot gun and didn't die, I got hit by a RPG and didn't die, I got shot 1st and then I ended up shooting the person who shot me without me dying, and the same applies to others.
It's glitchy-That knife glitch is stupid, you make contact with a enemy and it doesn't even work sometimes, and I get knifed because of that. C4 glitch where the C4 doesn't detonate. Tank mine glitch where they disappear for no reason. Ammo glitch where you start with no ammo and have to kill yourself to get ammo again. And more glitches that I'll try to remember.
Odd map design-I like some maps, but others are just painful to play and are not designed well, the worst offender is Rush on White Pass, my god is that a bad map.
Barely any options/content-Subjective, but really, compared to Battlefield 2, it's lacking.
The Squad modes are TOTALLY worthless-Rather have bots than that.
Campaign-The single player isn't that great to me, COD games had better campaigns, maybe not MW2.:P
Kan0nF0dder
Man, I'm gonna have to pop in BC2 :DBO has a better campaign. Bad Company 2, on the other hand, is the best mp game this gen, especially now that it got Oasis and Harvest day for free :D
PAL360
The hit detection is a mess I have to agree. IDk about map desighn though. For the most part, I love every map. I will agree that Rush doesn't work well on all of them though, for instance White Pass and I personally think Cold War is the worst map yet. I do like some of the new maps, but some are obviously designed to favor attackers or defenders in rush(I don't mind conquest too much), I can even make a list and tell why. And LOL at Cold War.[QUOTE="mitu123"]
I have not played BO yet, and while I do enjoy BC2 as I'm a Rank 50 in it, it does have a lot of flaws that not many point out.
Hit detection issues-I got shot in the head and didn't die, I got shot a point blank range with a shot gun and didn't die, I got hit by a RPG and didn't die, I got shot 1st and then I ended up shooting the person who shot me without me dying, and the same applies to others.
It's glitchy-That knife glitch is stupid, you make contact with a enemy and it doesn't even work sometimes, and I get knifed because of that. C4 glitch where the C4 doesn't detonate. Tank mine glitch where they disappear for no reason. Ammo glitch where you start with no ammo and have to kill yourself to get ammo again. And more glitches that I'll try to remember.
Odd map design-I like some maps, but others are just painful to play and are not designed well, the worst offender is Rush on White Pass, my god is that a bad map.
Barely any options/content-Subjective, but really, compared to Battlefield 2, it's lacking.
The Squad modes are TOTALLY worthless-Rather have bots than that.
Campaign-The single player isn't that great to me, COD games had better campaigns, maybe not MW2.:P
millerlight89
[QUOTE="PAL360"]Man, I'm gonna have to pop in BC2 :D SaltyMeatballs - Are you being sarcastic?BO has a better campaign. Bad Company 2, on the other hand, is the best mp game this gen, especially now that it got Oasis and Harvest day for free :D
SaltyMeatballs
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="PAL360"]Man, I'm gonna have to pop in BC2 :D SaltyMeatballs - Are you being sarcastic? Why would I be? Because I prefer BO? No reason not to play BC2, those maps were the **** :DBO has a better campaign. Bad Company 2, on the other hand, is the best mp game this gen, especially now that it got Oasis and Harvest day for free :D
shahilsyed
[QUOTE="PAL360"]Man, I'm gonna have to pop in BC2 :D Do it man, return to the light :)BO has a better campaign. Bad Company 2, on the other hand, is the best mp game this gen, especially now that it got Oasis and Harvest day for free :D
SaltyMeatballs
You have to buy a code, what if you bought the game at launch, I thought the free maps would be free. I'm confused!!!On PC those maps are free, but on consoles, you have to buy a VIP code to get certain maps when it expires, and if you buy the game used, you pay even more, so it's not all free, though there's the ultimate edition to fix that.
mitu123
The hit detection is a mess I have to agree. IDk about map desighn though. For the most part, I love every map. I will agree that Rush doesn't work well on all of them though, for instance White Pass and I personally think Cold War is the worst map yet. I do like some of the new maps, but some are obviously designed to favor attackers or defenders in rush(I don't mind conquest too much), I can even make a list and tell why. And LOL at Cold War. No need I know exactly what you are talking about. Oasis is pretty guilty of favoring defenders, at least the first 2 parts. Harvest day is the same.[QUOTE="millerlight89"]
[QUOTE="mitu123"]
I have not played BO yet, and while I do enjoy BC2 as I'm a Rank 50 in it, it does have a lot of flaws that not many point out.
Hit detection issues-I got shot in the head and didn't die, I got shot a point blank range with a shot gun and didn't die, I got hit by a RPG and didn't die, I got shot 1st and then I ended up shooting the person who shot me without me dying, and the same applies to others.
It's glitchy-That knife glitch is stupid, you make contact with a enemy and it doesn't even work sometimes, and I get knifed because of that. C4 glitch where the C4 doesn't detonate. Tank mine glitch where they disappear for no reason. Ammo glitch where you start with no ammo and have to kill yourself to get ammo again. And more glitches that I'll try to remember.
Odd map design-I like some maps, but others are just painful to play and are not designed well, the worst offender is Rush on White Pass, my god is that a bad map.
Barely any options/content-Subjective, but really, compared to Battlefield 2, it's lacking.
The Squad modes are TOTALLY worthless-Rather have bots than that.
Campaign-The single player isn't that great to me, COD games had better campaigns, maybe not MW2.:P
mitu123
Your VIP access expires?On PC those maps are free, but on consoles, you have to buy a VIP code to get certain maps when it expires, and if you buy the game used, you pay even more, so it's not all free, though there's the ultimate edition to fix that.
mitu123
[QUOTE="shahilsyed"][QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"] Man, I'm gonna have to pop in BC2 :DSaltyMeatballsSaltyMeatballs - Are you being sarcastic? Why would I be? Because I prefer BO? No reason not to play BC2, those maps were the **** :D Oasis reminds me a lot of BF2 and the way those maps were setup and just feel. Not sure if you have played BF2 though. Really brought memories back when I first played on it, still does kind of.
[QUOTE="mitu123"]You have to buy a code, what if you bought the game at launch, I thought the free maps would be free. I'm confused!!! Buying it new gets it for free for the 1st few maps, but then it expires and you have to buy another one to get more maps like I did.On PC those maps are free, but on consoles, you have to buy a VIP code to get certain maps when it expires, and if you buy the game used, you pay even more, so it's not all free, though there's the ultimate edition to fix that.
SaltyMeatballs
[QUOTE="mitu123"]Your VIP access expires? Yes, I had to buy another one, it didn't cover all the maps.On PC those maps are free, but on consoles, you have to buy a VIP code to get certain maps when it expires, and if you buy the game used, you pay even more, so it's not all free, though there's the ultimate edition to fix that.
Kan0nF0dder
[QUOTE="mitu123"]You have to buy a code, what if you bought the game at launch, I thought the free maps would be free. I'm confused!!!On PC those maps are free, but on consoles, you have to buy a VIP code to get certain maps when it expires, and if you buy the game used, you pay even more, so it's not all free, though there's the ultimate edition to fix that.
SaltyMeatballs
you get a VIP code when you buy the game, and you can only use it for one account. after that, the account stays "VIP" and you don't have to buy it ever again.
Yes, I had to buy another one, it didn't cover all the maps.mitu123
whaaa..? expired? all of my friends playing on PS3 have used the same VIP account since the launch, and have got all the map packs with it.
have you made another account? you can only use the code for one account.
[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"][QUOTE="mitu123"]You have to buy a code, what if you bought the game at launch, I thought the free maps would be free. I'm confused!!! Buying it new gets it for free for the 1st few maps, but then it expires and you have to buy another one to get more maps like I did. I'm confused, my VIP code seems to be a permanent thing.On PC those maps are free, but on consoles, you have to buy a VIP code to get certain maps when it expires, and if you buy the game used, you pay even more, so it's not all free, though there's the ultimate edition to fix that.
mitu123
Ok millerlight89, my thoughts on rush in certain maps:
Port Valdez=Both
Nelson Bay=Defenders
Valprassio=Attackers
Laguna Presa=Attackers
Atamca Desert=Defenders
Arica Harbor=Both
White Pass=Attackers
Cold War=Defenders
Am I missing a map?
It's ok if you liked these maps, I like some too, but it's obvious to what map favors what side.
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