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#1 II-FBIsniper-II
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360: Too Human  10 year dev cycle, hype after the demo, and then 5.5 PS3: Lair  Graphics king, GOTY, and then Factor 4.5... Wii: Twilight Princess  GOTY, the next OOT, and then 8.8. SW exploded. PC: Spore  The most innovative game ever! GOTY! Will Wright is a genius! EIGHT POINT ZERO Agree/Disagree?
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#2 Camer999
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Was lair ever graphics king or did GEOW kill it?

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#3 ReaperV7
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i would switch too human with halo wars....i dont recall any hype for too human....

thats just my opinion you dont have to switch if you dont want to.

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#4 blazer224
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I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head for the most part. :P Maybe switch Too Human with Halo Wars, since its, you know, Halo.

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#5 mitu123
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That list is perfect, and Twilight Princess really did deserve AA after I played it, I don't understand why it's AAA on metacritic and gamerankings.

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#6 Yandere
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Change Twilight Princess with The Conduit.

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Agree for all.
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#8 II-FBIsniper-II
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Change Twilight Princess with The Conduit.

Yandere
No way. Were you around when TP flopped?
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#9 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head for the most part. :P Maybe switch Too Human with Halo Wars, since its, you know, Halo.

blazer224
Except that Halo Wars wasn't a universal flop -- Halo Wars has an AA ranking on Gamerankings and Metacritic. Gamespot really dropped the ball with the review.
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#10 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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Us sheep have the best flop. :D We win.

/system wars

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[QUOTE="blazer224"]

I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head for the most part. :P Maybe switch Too Human with Halo Wars, since its, you know, Halo.

Stevo_the_gamer

Except that Halo Wars wasn't a universal flop -- Halo Wars has an AA ranking on Gamerankings and Metacritic. Gamespot really dropped the ball with the review.

...Just like TP.

Too Human's hype also wasn't very high near its release. I don't know if Halo Wars was the biggest, but it was bigger.

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#12 mitu123
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Halo Wars, that game was hyped for 1 week and was hyped AA, v.s. Too Human which had numerous years and was hyped AAA I believe, can anyone confirmed that?

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#13 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Us sheep have the best flop. :D We win.

/system wars

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Out of that mix? Sure. But that's not something to be entirely proud of.

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#14 mitu123
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="blazer224"]

I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head for the most part. :P Maybe switch Too Human with Halo Wars, since its, you know, Halo.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Except that Halo Wars wasn't a universal flop -- Halo Wars has an AA ranking on Gamerankings and Metacritic. Gamespot really dropped the ball with the review.

...Just like TP.

Nah, it was perfect.:P

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#15 II-FBIsniper-II
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Poll added.
[QUOTE="blazer224"]

I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head for the most part. :P Maybe switch Too Human with Halo Wars, since its, you know, Halo.

Stevo_the_gamer
Except that Halo Wars wasn't a universal flop -- Halo Wars has an AA ranking on Gamerankings and Metacritic. Gamespot really dropped the ball with the review.

SW flop. TP wasn't universal either.
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#16 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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...Just like TP.

Too Human's hype also wasn't very high near its release. I don't know if Halo Wars was the biggest, but it was bigger.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

True to an extent. Zelda has AAA on GR, Gamespot gave it AA -- barely missing AAA by a few tenths.

Halo Wars has AA on GR, Gamespot gave it B. That's quite the difference. ;)

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#17 SparkyProtocol
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Spore. They dumbed it down. :(
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#18 Furycliff
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TP is a great game, putting it in the same discussion with these other games here is a joke.

Liar was pretty bad, PS3 was starving for good games then and liar was spose to be at least decent lol.

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#19 AgentA-Mi6
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Out of those three none failed quite as hard as Lair, that was horrible I was really looking forward to that game.
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#20 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Out of those three none failed quite as hard as Lair, that was horrible I was really looking forward to that game.AgentA-Mi6
But it wasn't hyped as Game of the Year like Spore. :P
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#21 mitu123
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Out of those three none failed quite as hard as Lair, that was horrible I was really looking forward to that game.AgentA-Mi6
I was actually going to get a PS3 for that game at the time, then I saw the reviews and just had to wait until the PS3 got more good exclusives.
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#22 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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[QUOTE="Tsug_Ze_Wind"]

...Just like TP.

Too Human's hype also wasn't very high near its release. I don't know if Halo Wars was the biggest, but it was bigger.

Stevo_the_gamer

True to an extent. Zelda has AAA on GR, Gamespot gave it AA -- barely missing AAA by a few tenths.

Halo Wars has AA on GR, Gamespot gave it B. That's quite the difference. ;)

Yes, and that would bea reason to name it the biggest 360 SW flop. After all, it's not like it matters how good the actual game is. :P

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[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Out of those three none failed quite as hard as Lair, that was horrible I was really looking forward to that game.Stevo_the_gamer
But it wasn't hyped as Game of the Year like Spore. :P

Lair Was Hyped Game of the Year... I was here back then and I remember it clearly :cry:
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#24 blazer224
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[QUOTE="blazer224"]

I think you pretty much nailed it right on the head for the most part. :P Maybe switch Too Human with Halo Wars, since its, you know, Halo.

Stevo_the_gamer

Except that Halo Wars wasn't a universal flop -- Halo Wars has an AA ranking on Gamerankings and Metacritic. Gamespot really dropped the ball with the review.

Oh, i thought we were jsu taking into accout GS reviews. But yea, HW did get a lot of mixed reviews, I think IGN gave it like an 8.4, but dont quote me on that.

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#25 DaViD_99
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Its system war flop people not quality flop.
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#26 Tsug_Ze_Wind
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]Out of those three none failed quite as hard as Lair, that was horrible I was really looking forward to that game.AgentA-Mi6
But it wasn't hyped as Game of the Year like Spore. :P

Lair Was Hyped Game of the Year... I was here back then and I remember it clearly :cry:

Cows hype everything GOTY. :P It somehow ended up with an "official" (lol) AA hype.

Spore was bigger, and I say this as someone who had a lot of fun on the day the 4.5 dropped. :D

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#27 MetroidPrimePwn
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The reaction to Twilight Princess was definitely the biggest (even though it was closest to hype). Nobody sent death threats to the Lair reviewer.

I find it really strange that even though Spore was arguably hyped the most, it was also the one that was talked about the least. Lair was the talk of System Wars for like half a month, Spore got like three threads which weren't even big thread. I thought people would be all over it.

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#28 AgentA-Mi6
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Zelda TP averages a score above 90% and sold 10+ million copies worldwide right? In this tiny little world we call gamespot system wars, Zelda Flopped, and Hard. In reality, did it Flop? Nope.
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TP was a flop? If you say as "it didn't get a 9.0" then yeah. Otherwise I think Conduit deserves that more.

I'm going with.. Too Human. A game that was originally a PS1 game but dragged till now.. Wow.:P

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#30 AgentA-Mi6
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Cows hype everything GOTY. :P It somehow ended up with an "official" (lol) AA hype.

Spore was bigger, and I say this as someone who had a lot of fun on the day the 4.5 dropped. :D

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Dont Blame the people, Blame the console and Ps3 devs, its their fault , they release GOTY material every year :D

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#31 II-FBIsniper-II
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It somehow ended up with an "official" (lol) AA hype.Tsug_Ze_Wind
The outrage was hilarious when Casey said that was the official hype. :P
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#32 nintendoboy16  Online
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That list is perfect, and Twilight Princess really did deserve AA after I played it, I don't understand why it's AAA on metacritic and gamerankings.

mitu123
Agreed, especially with Twilight Princess. I mean c'mon, Nintendo. This Zelda is not as good as past ones. No wonder to some people, Star Fox Adventures was preferred.
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#33 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That list is perfect, and Twilight Princess really did deserve AA after I played it, I don't understand why it's AAA on metacritic and gamerankings.

nintendoboy16

Agreed, especially with Twilight Princess. I mean c'mon, Nintendo. This Zelda is not as good as past ones. No wonder to some people, Star Fox Adventures was preferred.

I loved Star Fox Adventures but to me, TP was a great game but the delaying killed it the most. It should've came out in 05 for the GC and left there as it is.

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#34 Wikipedian
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Twilight Princess didn't flop at all. It got high ratings. It was merely overhyped.

Lair on the other hand...

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wheres halo wars..... its supposed to be an aaa serious but FLOPED BAD
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#36 Rev2221
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I'm sure it's been said a million times... but lair is probably ps3's biggest flop because it aimed to take advantage of the sixaxis motion sensing capabilities which make the game UNPLAYABLE. In this one small example copying the wiimote blew up in sony's face.

I know there is a patch now that makes everything all better but looking at how everything went when Lair came out... it was a disaster.

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#37 II-FBIsniper-II
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Twilight Princess didn't flop at all. It got high ratings. It was merely overhyped.

Lair on the other hand...

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How can it be overhyped without flopping?[QUOTE="Liquid_DC"]wheres halo wars..... its supposed to be an aaa serious but FLOPED BAD

More like AA.
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#38 awssk8er716
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Twilight Princess wasn't a flop at all!

I voted Lair, eventhough I don't know much about it.

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#39 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Yes, and that would bea reason to name it the biggest 360 SW flop. After all, it's not like it matters how good the actual game is. :P

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Why's that? Because of the hype and score difference? Blue Dragon was hyped as AA/AAA and it even scored lower than Halo Wars. But even then, I still think Too Human takes the cake for the biggest Xbox 360 flop.

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#40 killerfist
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Fair list. I agree with all of those. The Zelda TP brought many lulz...and suicides:P Methinks the biggest flop overall is either Spore or Too Human. Only because both were hyped for a VERY long time.
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#41 II-FBIsniper-II
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Fair list. I agree with all of those. The Zelda TP brought many lulz...and suicides:P Methinks the biggest flop overall is either Spore or Too Human. Only because both were hyped for a VERY long time. killerfist
I don't know, Lair was just epic because as far as I remember, no one saw a score that low coming.
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Why's that? Because of the hype and score difference? Blue Dragon was hyped as AA/AAA and it even scored lower than Halo Wars. But even then, I still think Too Human takes the cake for the biggest Xbox 360 flop.

Stevo_the_gamer

Forgot about Blue Dragon. That would be my pick.

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#43 VendettaRed07
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Twilight princess was the most dissapointing, simply cause i wasnt really that hyped up for the other games. I liked the gamecube version of twilight princess better though, the controls actually made the game more fun, made the battling feel alot less sloppy, instead of just waggling

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In terms of score, and epic floppage, Lair no doubt. In terms of what people actually expected from the game: Spore
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#45 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Why's that? Because of the hype and score difference? Blue Dragon was hyped as AA/AAA and it even scored lower than Halo Wars. But even then, I still think Too Human takes the cake for the biggest Xbox 360 flop.

Tsug_Ze_Wind

Forgot about Blue Dragon. That would be my pick.

Eh. Don't remember too much hype for it. Maybe because I'm not a JRPG fan.
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#46 sonicthemegaman
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TP flopped? I thought it was ok. there were some AI issues but i liked it till it got stolen. anyway, Gundam Crossfire failed so yeah, thats my vote.
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flopped? reviews don't say it flopped. it was a fun game.

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Such perfect picks, its a toss up between TP and Spore. TP because of the name and hype, Spore because of the TREMENDOUS hype. It was being hailed as the GOTG, GOTD, much less GOTY. It would revolutionize gaming and whatnot and bam 8.0.

TP was huge though, man I bet there were parades in sheepville when Jeff G. got fired a year later. I admit I was shocked too but I can see where he got it from. Despite me liking it very much.

Too close to call.

Too human's hype wasn't as big and for all intents and purposes its a new IP. Same goes for Lair but it had hype and for whats its worth was really pretty but it was just so frustrating to play. I couldn't stand playing the 4 or so missions I did play of it. But again new IP on a "new, no games system" more hype was on it then it should've had.

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#49 II-FBIsniper-II
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flopped? reviews don't say it flopped. it was a fun game.

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What are you talking about?
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#50 CanYouDiglt
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I would say Lair. Too Human sure was in development for the 10 years going from the PS2 and the 360 but it was not hyped near as much as Lair was. TP scored pretty good and really the only one that super hyped Spore was Will Wright acting like it would be used in class rooms and such