Billy Gates and Micro$oft not quite the greedy corperation everyone thaught.

I know there's alot of hate here towards ms and the 360 (my system of choice). Here is something that may change the way you feel about them.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/

Bill Gates is Not M$.

Hopefully those in SW know about Mr. Gates philanthropy though.

Not saying the heart wasn't there but there are a lot of people who give to charity for the publicity. I'm sure the intentions were good but it's also good for buisness and image to be known for giving so much away.

That said, all companies are bent on greed. It's buisness. Profit and revenue is their aim. Can't say Sony or Nintendo aren't just as greedy. It's a just a matter of position right now.

What MS does with its money does not negate what they do to make it.

Not saying the heart wasn't there but there are a lot of people who give to charity for the publicity. I'm sure the intentions were good but it's also good for buisness and image to be known for giving so much away.

That said, all companies are bent on greed. It's buisness. Profit and revenue is their aim. Can't say Sony or Nintendo aren't just as greedy. It's a just a matter of position right now.

Xire_XII

Considering he stepped down from MS to dedicate more time to his charity I would say it is more then just publicity.

Not saying the heart wasn't there but there are a lot of people who give to charity for the publicity. I'm sure the intentions were good but it's also good for buisness and image to be known for giving so much away.

That said, all companies are bent on greed. It's buisness. Profit and revenue is their aim. Can't say Sony or Nintendo aren't just as greedy. It's a just a matter of position right now.

Xire_XII

Except when you give away 28,000,000,000 dollars like Bill Gates. You can say bye bye to those 28,000,000,000 dollars.

Considering he stepped down from MS to dedicate more time to his charity I would say it is more then just publicity.spinecaton

i hate how everyone calls MS greedy... i mean what company is not trying to get money? sony, nintendo and microsoft are all big businesses and all of them wnat to make a lot of money with the least amount of effort (thats how business works)

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

i hate how everyone calls MS greedy... i mean what company is not trying to get money? sony, nintendo and microsoft are all big businesses and all of them wnat to make a lot of money with the least amount of effort (thats how business works)

porzdeadline

Because they charge for everything and you must buy all add-ons from them.

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

patriots7672

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

patriots7672

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

Bill gates is retired.

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If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

carsales

Tax evasion is part of it, and yes, he really is a greedy shark. Still, if it helps others, then what the beef.-Pred-Alien-

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]Tax evasion is part of it, and yes, he really is a greedy shark. Still, if it helps others, then what the beef.blue_hazy_basic

[QUOTE="carsales"]

[QUOTE="patriots7672"]

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

All company have some greed. For Bill Gates though, after seeing Pirates of Silicon Valley, gotta say he is one sneaky bastard.

I know there's alot of hate here towards ms and the 360 (my system of choice). Here is something that may change the way you feel about them.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/

carsales

Before praising Bill Gates as a philanthropist you might want to do some research on how he got rich. The anti-competative business actions and other illegal activities he's been involved in. He's also heavily involved in the new way of doing business that unfortunately is how business is done in the USA these days. Buying lobyists and politicians.

I know there's alot of hate here towards ms and the 360 (my system of choice). Here is something that may change the way you feel about them.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/

carsales

There is a difference between an individual and a corporation. As an individual, I am sure almost every CEO, or whatever, if a good person. However, when a CEO is running a corporation, they have a legal obligation to ensure the company makes as much money as possible in as short a time as possible. Often this means ignoring social/moral responsibilities, breaking certain laws, and literally enacting policies that can harm people and society. It is the dominant flaw in our system right now. Ultimately, any corporation will inevitably do harm.

I would also point out that when you are as rich as Bill Gates, the interest and investments alone is more money than you or I could possibly comprehend. I mean, what would ANYONE do with, say, 50 billion dollars? That is such an insane amount of money that even giving half of it away, is more money than you or I would know what to do with. At that point you don't even have to do anything at all. Your bank account is so massive it has its own force of gravity that just natually sucks in other money.

So yes, I applaud Bill Gates for all his charitable endeavours, and have non doubt about his good nature. However, MS is still a corporation, and an illegal monopoly that only exists today because they have so much profits that not even the US government can stop them anymore.

Philanthropy is just another word for tax evasion.clubsammich91

Donating around 28 Billion (with a B) and building one of the biggest charity organizations in the wolrd is hardly "another word for tax evasion".

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

What MS does with its money does not negate what they do to make it.

DaBrainz

Also charity is overrated, charity hardly solves any problem other than allowing rich people to gain support and avoid taxes.RedruM_I

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Also charity is overrated, charity hardly solves any problem other than allowing rich people to gain support and avoid taxes.IronBass

it doesn't solve any real problem.RedruM_I

I know there's alot of hate here towards ms and the 360 (my system of choice). Here is something that may change the way you feel about them.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/

carsales

considering bill gates is not the richest man in the world, he has out donataed the next seven on that list by himself.

I thought this was common knowledge.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] it doesn't solve any real problem.IronBass

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] That it helps it's an illussion and that's what they want us to think. If an organization or a government donates to charity you can bet that they trade policies or work labor practices are far from fair. Of course they wouldn't care to risk anything on making the world a place with more justice because they'll lose money so they give to charity to create an image that the rest of the world can't resist to praise. I say it's all BS. I'm not saying caritable people doesn't exist but that this big charity organizations where rich people and governemnts keep using as a publicity mean are all BS and a part of the problem rather than a part of the solution.IronBass

I know there's alot of hate here towards ms and the 360 (my system of choice). Here is something that may change the way you feel about them.

http://blogs.wsj.com/wealth/

carsales

I know that sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees.RedruM_I

i hate how everyone calls MS greedy... i mean what company is not trying to get money? sony, nintendo and microsoft are all big businesses and all of them wnat to make a lot of money with the least amount of effort (thats how business works)

porzdeadline

Nobody ever claimed Gates was greedy. In fact, I think the only division of Microsft that throws the money around a lot is the game department.

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

[QUOTE="RedruM_I"] I know that sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees.IronBass

[QUOTE="patriots7672"]

If MS isn't greedy then why is their console the same price as the PS3 with less hardware and why do they charge to play online? Why are all add-ons for the 360 all force people to buy only specific ones made by MS?

PS3 you get a bluray drive, WiFi, charge and play controllers, a web browser, free online gaming, can use any brand HDD, can make your own themes for free or download free ones from the web, and you can use any mic.

sexy_robot_man

And at that time, a PS3 cost about 840 dollars to make

i hate how everyone calls MS greedy... i mean what company is not trying to get money? sony, nintendo and microsoft are all big businesses and all of them wnat to make a lot of money with the least amount of effort (thats how business works)

porzdeadline

Cows say

Just another in a long line of mind control techniques by microsoft!!!

Thats bill gates, not MS...

And thats great and all but tbh if you had so much money that you literally had no idea what to do with it. So much you actually want to get rid of it, you'll give it away.

we'd all do it, at least most of us would.