Bioshock 2 for the 360 outselling the PS3 almost 2 to 1.

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#51 TommyV3456
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[QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

You would rather go off of false info than no info? Well whatever floats you boat.

ActicEdge

I'd rather go off estimated info until official numbers are released. VGChartz is no different from the NPD as far as I'm concerned. They both make estimates since none of them have full access to all retailer sales. Heck, VGChartz most likely gets a large portion of their numbers from the NPD. To try and rationalize one as being more accurate than another is still silly, since they're both inaccurate given the nature of estimates. So to answer your question: I'd rather use VGChartz's numbers until we're given better.

Uh no. One physical tracks and uses algorithms to properly estimate the remainder. VGchartz makes up numbers. They are not the same at all.

Why have I seen so many people question the NPD so much lately?!? I dont get it!
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#52 ihazfishsticks
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Hmm are you sure about that? WKC and FFXIII both broke nearly 1 million each in Japan alone and im willing to bet Demon's souls sold out Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon which is sad considering Demons souls isnt even out in europe.. Oh im sorry, this is system wars.. America only counts

FFXIII is multiplat, which hasn't seen a 360 release yet. However you look at the numbers before FFXIII released, the top selling JRPG was Lost Odyssey - 830k WW. WKC sold 470k WW. I'm not talking America only. Look at the RPG sales WW and you'll see RPGs have sold better on the 360 OVERALL than on the PS3.
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#53 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] RPGs have still sold very poorly on the 360 compared to Shooters.. Lost Odysse and Blue Dragon where terrible sales flops, Mass Effect 2 as good as it was didnt have amazing sales compared to other 360 shooter titles.. I mean even Forza 3 had very lackluster sales when compared to Forza 2. Kennysolidsnake
And yet even though they've sold worse than other genres, they've still sold better than RPGs on the PS3. So what's that say about the state of the genre on the PS3? If the 360 is a one trick pony and yet they still outsell RPGs on the PS3 then what's that make the PS3? A no trick pony?

Hmm are you sure about that? WKC and FFXIII both broke nearly 1 million each in Japan alone and im willing to bet Demon's souls sold out Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon which is sad considering Demons souls isnt even out in europe.. Oh im sorry, this is system wars.. America only counts

How much has WKC sold in regions OUTSIDE of Japan? How about FFXIII?

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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"][QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"] Come on, there is no denying that the 360 is a one trick pony and only great games are shooters.. Look i like my 360 and have fun with it and i think xbox live is great.. But the console is a one trick pony, ofcourse it has other good games outside of shooters but it specializes in shooters.. In other words, the PS3 has such a wide variety of genres and fans of different tastes that it could survive without any shooters.. If the 360 lost its shooters, it would die and instant death and fans would no longer support the console

If this is the case then why have RPGs sold better on the 360 than on the PS3?

RPGs have still sold very poorly on the 360 compared to Shooters.. Lost Odysse and Blue Dragon where terrible sales flops, Mass Effect 2 as good as it was didnt have amazing sales compared to other 360 shooter titles.. I mean even Forza 3 had very lackluster sales when compared to Forza 2.

What a load of crap... lol. Mass Effect 1 had sold 1.6 million copies 6 weeks after launch... safe to say its past 2 million. Mass Effect 2 looks to sail past that in a big way. Lost Odyssey is at 850 000+ Blue Dragon was at 200 000+ copies in December 2007. There hasn't been an update since. As of May last year, Star Ocean: The Last Hope had sold 475 000 copies on the Xbox 360. It severely underperformed on the PS3. Tales of Vesperia has sold around 200 000 for the Xbox 360, while The Last Remnant has sold close to 600 000 on PC/360.. I think its safe to say the majority of those sales are on the Xbox 360.
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#55 ihazfishsticks
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Uh no. One physical tracks and uses algorithms to properly estimate the remainder. VGchartz makes up numbers. They are not the same at all.

ActicEdge
You're involved with the inner workings of how VGChartz calculates it's numbers? Then please, feel free to explain. Otherwise, you sound like YOU'RE the person making up stuff.
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#56 sensfanVone
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Lol @ PS3 and Xbox fans etc. LOLing at each other when each other use VGChartz.

In one thread to defend their system and then discounting it in the next thread when it doesn't suit their system.

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#57 ihazfishsticks
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Other numbers: Fallout 3: 360 - 2.94m / PS3 - 1.94m Dragon Age: Origins: 360 - 1.74m / PS3 - 730k Eternal Sonata: 360 - 240k / PS3 - 150k So far I've only found 1 RPG that has released on both systems that didn't sell better on the 360. Enchanted Arms: 360 - 160k / PS3 - 170k. However this was a launch 360 game, which might explain that.
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#58 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no. One physical tracks and uses algorithms to properly estimate the remainder. VGchartz makes up numbers. They are not the same at all.

ihazfishsticks

You're involved with the inner workings of how VGChartz calculates it's numbers? Then please, feel free to explain. Otherwise, you sound like YOU'RE the person making up stuff.

Lol, are you ioi :question: VGchartz owner was a member at neogaf who was ban for the falsification of numbers. The way he operates along with the practice of stealing numbers more than varifies theses fake numbers. You can accuse me of lying my new poster friend but it doesn't change the facts.

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#59 Vipa37
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This is to funny i mean come on. You are telling me that games such as valkyria chronicles sold well on ps3 compared to lost oddessy? That White Knight Chronicles is selling right now a game that came out 2 years ago and being released now to BAD reviews and you expect me to believe that rpgs sell better on ps3? Most of the JRPGS that came out this gen were because of MS giving $$$$$ to the developers to make the games and then a year later got a port of the game on PS3 where they added stuff to it. Look at Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 all those changes and they took out the one thing people liked about it TEH VIOLENCE.

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#60 Ontain
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seems like the rule of thumb is if it's multiplat and has decent multiplayer then it sells much better on 360.
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#61 TintedEyes
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"] And yet even though they've sold worse than other genres, they've still sold better than RPGs on the PS3. So what's that say about the state of the genre on the PS3? If the 360 is a one trick pony and yet they still outsell RPGs on the PS3 then what's that make the PS3? A no trick pony?OhSnapitz

Hmm are you sure about that? WKC and FFXIII both broke nearly 1 million each in Japan alone and im willing to bet Demon's souls sold out Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon which is sad considering Demons souls isnt even out in europe.. Oh im sorry, this is system wars.. America only counts

How much has WKC sold in regions OUTSIDE of Japan? How about FFXIII?

Why does it being outside of Japan matter?
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#62 dog_dirt
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[QUOTE="Kennysolidsnake"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"]VGChartz.... I wouldn't be surprised if it was true anyway, Bioshock 1 performed horrendously on the PS3.

Yea.. lets nevermind the fact that it came out nearly a year after the original Bioshock and with the PS3 at half the install base its at now.. funny how Lems try to rewrite history

but you were a lem last week
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#63 ihazfishsticks
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[QUOTE="ihazfishsticks"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Uh no. One physical tracks and uses algorithms to properly estimate the remainder. VGchartz makes up numbers. They are not the same at all.

ActicEdge

You're involved with the inner workings of how VGChartz calculates it's numbers? Then please, feel free to explain. Otherwise, you sound like YOU'RE the person making up stuff.

Lol, are you ioi :question: VGchartz owner was a member at neogaf who was ban for the falsification of numbers. The way he operates along with the practice of stealing numbers more than varifies theses fake numbers. You can accuse me of lying my new poster friend but it doesn't change the facts.

I'm not sure why you mention my post count as it has nothing to do with our conversation. But I digress: I don't have an inner working of VGchartz's calculation methods, but I'm not the person challenging their integrity. YOU ARE however. The burden of proof is on you sir, not on me. I don't know the owner or what he might have done in the past. However even if what you say is true, that is NOT evidence that he is currently involved in those practices. It's just as likely (or even more so likely) that he took the knowledge he gained from the past and the mistakes he made to try and create VGChartz and keep the information as accurate as possible. I can tell you this about VGChartz however they have been quoted and used by BBC, Forbes, Fortune, New York Post, and New York times for their sales figures. Also last year in October Square Enix used VGChartz as the source in their financial reports. If VGChartz was as inaccurate as you say, then why is it that SE is using them in their FINANCIAL reports? Why wouldn't the NYT or BBC or Forbes noticed how "inaccurate" their numbers were and not used them, if VGChartz was as bad as you say they are? I find it hard to believe that these organizations would have quoted them if their numbers were so wrong. Am I saying VGChartz is within a 1% accuracy range and is just as good as official numbers? Of course not. However, in place of official numbers, and until we get another source that is regarded as more accurate than VGC, I see no issue with using their numbers.
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#64 Birdy09
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1) Who is suprized? 2) VGCharts is better than NPD so please stfu with the "LOL VGCHARTS". 3) Why does this matter? it wont effect either companys stance, oh right, online shooters is the only thing that seems to matter on the Xbox360.
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#65 mtmatt
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Lets put it this way.. if the 360 was a meal, you would have games like Halo 3 and Gears being the steak, while there other games like Alan Wake and Forza being the french fries.. while with the PS3 almost all their exclusives are treated equally.Kennysolidsnake
lol wut? Nice analogy but you didn't finish, explain the ps3 meal

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#66 Leo-Magic
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xbox 360 is better for shooter, thats all.
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#67 The_Game21x
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*Insert obligatory :lol: VGChartz comment here*

But, assuming those numbers are true, that's not surprising at all. Multiplats on the 360 typically outsell their PS3 counterparts.

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#68 larryb007
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that sucks for sony since there is more ps3s in the market working then 360's

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#69 dommeus
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Ive got a PC, PS3 and a 360, and bought my copy for the xbox.

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#70 Gxgear
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Probably true but LOL VGChartz. Linking anything even related to make automatically makes your credibility = zero.

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#71 KH-mixerX
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Lol, vgchartz.

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#72 juanchopepe66
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the multiplatform are usually better in 360
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#73 -Snooze-
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I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

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I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

-Snooze-

But... PS3 fans spent 4 hyping a shooter. :O

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#75 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

BioShockOwnz

But... PS3 fans spent 4 hyping a shooter. :O

Did it have a chainsaw in it? Nope, therefore destined to fail.

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#76 TommyV3456
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I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

-Snooze-
Why are people acting like Bioshock 2 is just another dumb shooter or something? :|
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#77 gugler990
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its vgcharts not 360 republic

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

TommyV3456

Why are people acting like Bioshock 2 is just another dumb shooter or something? :|

When it defeats someones argument it's just another shooter, that's why.

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#79 -Snooze-
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

TommyV3456

Why are people acting like Bioshock 2 is just another dumb shooter or something? :|

I never said it was a dumb shooter. I said it has guns and a drill. Was i wrong?

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#80 TommyV3456
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[QUOTE="TommyV3456"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

I believe it. It's got guns hasn't it? Guns and a drill. Almost as potent as guns and a chainsaw.

360 fans are mad for it

-Snooze-

Why are people acting like Bioshock 2 is just another dumb shooter or something? :|

I never said it was a dumb shooter. I said it has guns and a drill. Was i wrong?

No, but you were kinda comparing it to Gears in a condescending way.
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#81 EliteKitteh
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Because Bioshock has most of its fanbase on the 360. Now why don't you compare tekken 6 sales? :lol:

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#82 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

[QUOTE="TommyV3456"] Why are people acting like Bioshock 2 is just another dumb shooter or something? :|TommyV3456

I never said it was a dumb shooter. I said it has guns and a drill. Was i wrong?

No, but you were kinda comparing it to Gears in a condescending way.

Well, Gears does have the best story of any shooter EVAR MAED. FACT. :P

So it's a logical comparison.

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#84 mtradr43
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considering almost noone bought the ps3 version of the first one as far as i know, i wouldnt be surprised that this is true.
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#85 Omzzz
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wouldn't be surprised if it was true
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#86 DEATH775
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Most of the multiplat games on the 360 will sell more than the one on the PS3.
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#87 Jrfanfreak88
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www.vgchartz.com wow

360reachwake
Bah, I'm a PS3 owner and my money is going towards Heavy Rain, AVP, and God of War 3. Why get a multiplatform game your friends are going to have when you can get a PS3 exclusive your 360 buddies can't experience? Besides, multiplatform games usually drop in price quicker than exclusive titles and in all honesty if the story isn't as good as the first one, like 99% of reviewers are saying, then Bioshock 2 isn't worth 60 bucks. I waiting to get Bioshock 1 for $30 and it was just barely worth that price because once you beat the game and unravel the story there's not much more to do in Rapture.
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#88 mtradr43
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so you bash bioshock 1 and 2 for not having much replayability but you want to spend your money on heavy rain and gow3? dont see much difference there
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#89 Jrfanfreak88
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so you bash bioshock 1 and 2 for not having much replayability but you want to spend your money on heavy rain and gow3? dont see much difference theremtradr43
Well considering the amount of different outcomes in Heavy Rain and the insane awesomeness that will be GOW3 how can you not see the difference? The only thing that made Bioshock 1 interesting was the unique setting and the story but once you got used to rapture and you experienced all the crazy twists and turns in the story there wasn't much else to do. Bioshock 1 suffers from being a fairly linear first person shooter that takes quite some time to complete and after the 2nd play through you want to do something else. I didn't bash Bioshock 2 for re-playability because I haven't played the game so how would I know how re-playable it is? I bashed the game because most of the reviewers out there weren't impressed with the story and if it's not as good as the first one I can't see myself dropping that much money on a game I could easily play through for free at a friends house.
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#90 bphan
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People buy games on the 360. What's new here?