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#1 reddemon502
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Just letting you guys know that you should rent BioShock before you buy, with no multiplayer the game isn't really worth 60 bucks.

Also, when I played the demo I got a feeling like I have done all that stuff before, and I have. If anyone has played Might and Magic Dark Messiah they would no what I'm talking about, Bioshock is basically the same game.

Dark Messiah:

BioShock:

Dark Messiah:

BioShock: (couldnt find right pic)

Dark Messiah:

BioShock: Enlarged from small video

See what im saying, this game is nothing new. BTW this has nothing to do with graphics, bioshock looks great. I'm just saying this is really just another fps and I suggest renting it first.

IM NOT SAYING DARK MESSIAH IS BETTER, read below

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The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,
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#3 primetime2121
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except that Dark Messiah was glitchy and buggy as hell...and consistently scored in the 7 range...Bioshock also has better graphics....Bioshock > Dark Messiah..and multiplayer doesn't make a game better
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Your going to need this:

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#5 reddemon502
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The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,KD-Archangel

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

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#6 gameruk2010
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I hope you know what this means.

Time to sit back and enjoy this

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#7 bluebrad1974
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20 hours of gameplay makesBioshock a purchase for me.
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Man i'm not even a lemming i find this Ridilicuos
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#9 Bill_McBlumpkin
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This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

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Sweet Jesus...
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#11 reddemon502
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This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

Bill_McBlumpkin

how so?

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#12 readingfc_1
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All games derive from another game developers idea.
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[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,reddemon502

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

So because you can shoot spells out of your hands in both games Bioshock isn't revolutionary? You either need to reevaluate that statement or find out a little bit more about the game before you post that.
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#15 reddemon502
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,KD-Archangel

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

So because you can shoot spells out of your hands in both games Bioshock isn't revolutionary? You either need to reevaluate that statement or find out a little bit more about the game before you post that.

How is it revolutionary, why dont you answer that (because it has great water effects and graphics, that doesnt make a game revolutionary

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#16 supermanfarr
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I didnt think the demo was that great either. The graphics were good but I dont think any better than gears. I played one right after the other. Im sure the story will be cool but the combat was nothing special. The only first person shooter I really liked wad riddick and halo ce so I not a huge fan anyway. Lemmings are way over hyping the demo. The guns sucked better to shock them and use the wrench. I will get flamed for this but I played the bioshock 2 times you cant skip the cut scense 2 was enough. Ive played heavenly sword 15 times I didnt think that demo was great either but it was more fun for me.
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#17 bryehngeocef
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20 hours of gameplay makesBioshock a purchase for me.bluebrad1974

Not to mention the fact that there's tons of different ways to get through the game. I know I'll play it more than once.

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#18 TheOneMan
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

reddemon502

how so?

Trying to assail the purchase of an amazing game by comparing it to a **** game...
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#19 Corvin
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[QUOTE="readingfc_1"]All games derive from another game developers idea. reddemon502

seems someone is getting what i said, or maybe not

If you were setting out to make such a broad statement, why narrow it down to Bioshock and M&M? Why should anyone buy ANY new game since its just based on ideas from games before it?

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#20 Bill_McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

reddemon502

how so?

Because the games AREN'T ANYTHING alike, you just picked a couple shots with the same basic color schemes, it doesn't make any sense.

Dark Messiah was bad, its story was poor... just hobbled together as a poor segawa yo the game's bread and butter (wizardry type Elder SCrolls combat)and it plays NOTHING alike. It's more like Oblivion, with sword and staff combat, and magic casting, etc. You fight Zombies, ghouls, etc.

BioShock is a moody stroy driven FPS in the same vein as System Shock 2 set 5 decades ago using bio modifaction plasmids and various guns.... st underneath the sea, fighting its geneticallymutated inhabitants.

I mean, honestly maa, they are NOTHING alike apart from the perspective. Dumbest topic ever.

Are you saying it's the same because you shoot stuff from your hand?

LOL!

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[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"][QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,reddemon502

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

So because you can shoot spells out of your hands in both games Bioshock isn't revolutionary? You either need to reevaluate that statement or find out a little bit more about the game before you post that.

How is it revolutionary, why dont you answer that

Alright, I'll play your game. Name me another hybrid FPS (besides SS or SS2) that blends all of the different gaming elements together into one amazing experience like the developers at 2K have done with Bioshock. It isn't the ideas or paticular concepts that set Bioshock apart and make it a new revolutionary experience, it was the way all of these different gaming conventions were combined to make a superb gaming experience. And...it looks really pretty. :)
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#22 rocktimusprime
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dark messiah sucked man.
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#23 Ollivander
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My dear lord...

Multiplayer does not make a game.

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#24 reddemon502
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

Bill_McBlumpkin

how so?

Because the games AREN'T ANYTHING alike, you just picked a couple shots with the same basic color schemes, it doesn't make any sense.

Dark Messiah was bad, its story was poor... just hobbled together as a poor segawa yo the game's bread and butter (wizardry type Elder SCrolls combat)and it plays NOTHING alike. It's more like Oblivion, with sword and staff combat, and magic casting, etc.

BioShock is a moody stroy driven FPS in the same vein as System Shock 2 set 5 decades ago using bio modifaction plasmids and various guns.... st underneath the sea.

I mean, honestly maa, they are NOTHING alike apart from the perspective. Dumbest topic ever.

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

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#25 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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You're right. I'll get rid of my copy of Oblivion, Gothic II, Morrowind, Dead Rising, my FF games, Dragon Quest VIIIand Viva Pinata aswell. They havelittle to noonline aswell, ergo they obviously weren't worth a purchase.

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[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,reddemon502

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

:lol: This average joe comes in here after everyone else, including the critics, says that Bioshock is perfect and totally disses it, actually thinking that his one opinion overrules everyone else's... This guy thinks he's the game reviewing master! :lol:

Critics are saying Bioshock is the greatest fps ever made, and i believe them. I can care less what some kid says on a video game forum

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[QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,KD-Archangel

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

So because you can shoot spells out of your hands in both games Bioshock isn't revolutionary? You either need to reevaluate that statement or find out a little bit more about the game before you post that.

Hand Spells are in every WRPG
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I'm... just... going to go over.... there.....
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#29 reddemon502
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="KD-Archangel"][QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,KD-Archangel

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

So because you can shoot spells out of your hands in both games Bioshock isn't revolutionary? You either need to reevaluate that statement or find out a little bit more about the game before you post that.

How is it revolutionary, why dont you answer that

Alright, I'll play your game. Name me another hybrid FPS (besides SS or SS2) that blends all of the different gaming elements together into one amazing experience like the developers at 2K have done with Bioshock. It isn't the ideas or paticular concepts that set Bioshock apart and make it a new revolutionary experience, it was the way all of these different gaming conventions were combined to make a superb gaming experience. And...it looks really pretty. :)

Hybrid fps, not sure about that one, but I will give it a try.

Vampire: The Masquerade

Dark Messiah (lol)

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non hybrid:

Half life series

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#30 KD-Archangel
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[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"][QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,da1on2

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

So because you can shoot spells out of your hands in both games Bioshock isn't revolutionary? You either need to reevaluate that statement or find out a little bit more about the game before you post that.

Hand Spells are in every WRPG

Eh...that was my point.
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#31 Bill_McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

reddemon502

how so?

Because the games AREN'T ANYTHING alike, you just picked a couple shots with the same basic color schemes, it doesn't make any sense.

Dark Messiah was bad, its story was poor... just hobbled together as a poor segawa yo the game's bread and butter (wizardry type Elder SCrolls combat)and it plays NOTHING alike. It's more like Oblivion, with sword and staff combat, and magic casting, etc.

BioShock is a moody stroy driven FPS in the same vein as System Shock 2 set 5 decades ago using bio modifaction plasmids and various guns.... st underneath the sea.

I mean, honestly maa, they are NOTHING alike apart from the perspective. Dumbest topic ever.

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

Hahaha. I could pick a shot of ANY first person game and make it seem alike.

is it like Oblivion? Is it like Doom 3?

This topic is so, so dumb. THEY'RE ALL ALIKE, ALL IN FP USING WEAPONS!!11

They just aren't anything alike. They aren't anything alike in setting, in mechanics (how you work what weapons you're given,) in dependence on story, in atmosphere, on settings, on enemies, on the weaponry you use, etc.

The aren't alike.

yep, it's in the first person and you use your hands. EXACTLY alike.

Good show.

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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

reddemon502

how so?

Because the games AREN'T ANYTHING alike, you just picked a couple shots with the same basic color schemes, it doesn't make any sense.

Dark Messiah was bad, its story was poor... just hobbled together as a poor segawa yo the game's bread and butter (wizardry type Elder SCrolls combat)and it plays NOTHING alike. It's more like Oblivion, with sword and staff combat, and magic casting, etc.

BioShock is a moody stroy driven FPS in the same vein as System Shock 2 set 5 decades ago using bio modifaction plasmids and various guns.... st underneath the sea.

I mean, honestly maa, they are NOTHING alike apart from the perspective. Dumbest topic ever.

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

So should I post pics of a guy with a pistol from several games and attempt to prove that every single shooter ever made is alike?

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#33 Corvin
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How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

reddemon502

Hey while we're at it, I could shoot spells from my hand in Oblivion, too (actually all ES games)! So clearly, Bioshock = Oblivion.

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#34 KD-Archangel
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"]

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

Corvin

Hey while we're at it, I could shoot spells from my hand in Oblivion, too (actually all ES games)! So clearly, Bioshock = Oblivion.

In fact, Bioshock = almost all WRPGs lol.
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#35 reddemon502
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,krp008

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

:lol: This average joe comes in here after everyone else, including the critics, says that Bioshock is perfect and totally disses it, actually thinking that his one opinion overrules everyone else's... This guy thinks he's the game reviewing master! :lol:

Critics are saying Bioshock is the greatest fps ever made, and i believe them. I can care less what some kid says on a video game forum

Critics... my a$$, there OPINIONS are not Facts, why dont you judge a game by playing it yourself.

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#36 TheOneMan
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"]

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

Corvin

Hey while we're at it, I could shoot spells from my hand in Oblivion, too (actually all ES games)! So clearly, Bioshock = Oblivion.

Let's not stop there! Holy crap, it's in color and the protagonists have FIVE fingers!

Marry mother of shaved legs!

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#37 _Fabrick_
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Well Dark Messiah is also coming out on the 360 soon (without all the glitches and bugs), so i will just get both. Although there not really the same anyway.
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#38 foxhound_fox
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You played the demo? Sure you played Bioshock? Cause I'm pretty sure I am more than willing to spend $70 CAD (PC CE) on a singleplayer only, 25-hour long multiple ending FPS/RPG hybrid with a one-of-a-kind atmosphere and revolutionary, genre changing gameplay.

If you're not, well, that's your loss not mine.
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#39 KD-Archangel
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[QUOTE="krp008"][QUOTE="reddemon502"]

[QUOTE="KD-Archangel"]The two games aren't even comparable in my book...but hey, to each his own i guess. Bioshock will be a much better game IMO,reddemon502

I'm not saying either one is better, just saying bioshock isn't a new revolutionary game or anything.

:lol: This average joe comes in here after everyone else, including the critics, says that Bioshock is perfect and totally disses it, actually thinking that his one opinion overrules everyone else's... This guy thinks he's the game reviewing master! :lol:

Critics are saying Bioshock is the greatest fps ever made, and i believe them. I can care less what some kid says on a video game forum

Critics... my a$$, there OPINIONS are not Facts, why dont you judge a game by playing it yourself.

I would extend your own advice to you simply becuase I have a hard time believing you actually played the demo. Anyone with the audacity to compare Bioshock to Dark Messiah...I just don't know.
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#40 II-FBIsniper-II
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No, I'll just get the superior game with Bioshock.
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#41 supermanfarr
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"]

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

Corvin

Hey while we're at it, I could shoot spells from my hand in Oblivion, too (actually all ES games)! So clearly, Bioshock = Oblivion.


This really is LEMMINGSPOT! Dont ever post a opion about a hyped 360 game the lemmings own this place. I see what your saying about the "magic" from the hand. Doent mean this wont be a great game tho. I just didnt think the demo was as good as everyone made it out to be.
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#42 Gaara79
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Multiplayer is only added value if it's good.

The Darkness has multiplayer. it sucks. and so the single player is still the only thing you should get the game for.

Prey, same thing. has MP but is not worth it. Call of Juarez, same.

If a game is good enough it does not need a multiplayer mode. It just needs to be a good game.

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#43 xDonRobx
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So in other words..

Don't get anymore games besides LittleBigPlanet (to my knowledge) since its thefirst ofits kind.

Thank you for saving me over 6K.

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#44 Bill_McBlumpkin
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So, were you really serious? I still can't tell... I mean, I've seen my share of asinine game comparisons on this site, but I think this one takes the cake.

Are you actually implying that BioShock is a Dark Messiah rip off (based exclusively that they're in the first person perspectiveand you shoot things from your hands)? If so, then hahahahahaha. As fare as "first person shooters / first person combat" games go, they couldn't be further apart. Haha.

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#45 l_The_DetoX_l
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This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

Bill_McBlumpkin

Can I ask you exactly what the TC was trying to say? You probably just asumed he ment to say Dark Messiah is better than Bioshock.

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#46 Homesrfan
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No online multiplayer?

2/10!

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#47 HPPL3
Member since 2007 • 279 Posts

I'm hoping the replay value might be high.

Although I just dropped 400 bills on car repairs, so rental sounds very acceptable.

Edit: WTH is up with deleting spaces GS !

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#48 Hoffgod
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Quite possily the greatest joke thread ever.
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#49 KD-Archangel
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Quite possily the greatest joke thread ever.Hoffgod
For his sake I hope he wasn't serious...
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#50 HPPL3
Member since 2007 • 279 Posts

No online multiplayer?

2/10!

Homesrfan

Thats where Halo 3 comes in !