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#51 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="bluebrad1974"]20 hours of gameplay makesBioshock a purchase for me.bryehngeocef

Not to mention the fact that there's tons of different ways to get through the game. I know I'll play it more than once.

Agreed with both of you. Hell, the main reason I want this game is because it is a purely single player experience, which is actually the heart and soul of every game in first place. It is refreshing to know that there are developers out there who still want to focus on making strong single player driven games like this, as that is what gaming is all about for gamers like me.

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#52 reddemon502
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So, were you really serious? I still can't tell... I mean, I've seen my share of asinine game comparisons on this site, but I think this one takes the cake.

Are you actually implying that BioShock is a Dark Messiah rip off (based exclusively that they're in the first person perspectiveand you shoot things from your hands)? If so, then hahahahahaha.

Bill_McBlumpkin

Im saying the gameplay is nothing new, what dont you get about that?

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#53 Bill_McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

l_The_DetoX_l

Can I ask you exactly what the TC was trying to say? You probably just asumed he ment to say Dark Messiah is better than Bioshock.

No, he said:

"Also, when I played the demo I got a feeling like I have done all that stuff before, and I have. If anyone has played Might and Magic Dark Messiah they would no what I'm talking about, Bioshock is basically the same game."

They aren't ANYTHING alike from being in the first person and using your hands. Such an asinine thread.

He could've at least used SS2, it's basically the squel despite not following the same story.

It is nothing like Dark Messiah.

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#54 joe_g_patton
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OK, so the next thread that this guy comes up with will try to convince you that Forza 2 is about the same as Big Rigs because both games involve operating motor vehicles.......:roll:
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#55 reddemon502
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[QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

Bill_McBlumpkin

Can I ask you exactly what the TC was trying to say? You probably just asumed he ment to say Dark Messiah is better than Bioshock.

No, he said:

"Also, when I played the demo I got a feeling like I have done all that stuff before, and I have. If anyone has played Might and Magic Dark Messiah they would no what I'm talking about, Bioshock is basically the same game."

They aren't ANYTHING alike from being in the first person and using your hands. Such an asinine thread.

that was my opinion

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#56 Bill_McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

reddemon502

Can I ask you exactly what the TC was trying to say? You probably just asumed he ment to say Dark Messiah is better than Bioshock.

No, he said:

"Also, when I played the demo I got a feeling like I have done all that stuff before, and I have. If anyone has played Might and Magic Dark Messiah they would no what I'm talking about, Bioshock is basically the same game."

They aren't ANYTHING alike from being in the first person and using your hands. Such an asinine thread.

that was my opinion

Well, it's a hilarious opinion.

Here, here's your crown. You're now the king of the world's worst game comparisons, and that's saying something on this forum. Congrats.

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#57 mismajor99
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Leave it to the OP, who obviously never played System Shock to make some of the worst arguments against Bioshock. If you've played Irrational's (Looking Glass Studios) titles from years past, you wouldn't being saying such nonsense. Why does a game need to have multiplayer? that's nonsense, just look at most games that add multi that feels tacked on. If a game isn't built from the ground up for muli, like Quake Wars UT3 or CSS, than I would rather have the devs spending time on the single player, hands down. Farcry(PC) is the perfect example. Best single player game in years, but tacked on multiplayer.

Also, I loved Dark Messiah and thought it was much better than the gamespot reviews.

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#58 deactivated-5f89ab8e63049
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

So, were you really serious? I still can't tell... I mean, I've seen my share of asinine game comparisons on this site, but I think this one takes the cake.

Are you actually implying that BioShock is a Dark Messiah rip off (based exclusively that they're in the first person perspectiveand you shoot things from your hands)? If so, then hahahahahaha.

reddemon502

Im saying the gameplay is nothing new, what dont you get about that?

Is that Top Spin 2 in your Gamertag? That game is a rip off of pong.

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#59 reddemon502
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Leave it to the OP, who obviously never played System Shock to make some of the worst arguments against Bioshock. If you've played Irrational's (Looking Glass Studios) titles from years past, you wouldn't being saying such nonsense. Why does a game need to have multiplayer? that's nonsense, just look at most games that add multi that feels tacked on. If a game isn't built from the ground up for muli, like Quake Wars UT3 or CSS, than I would rather have the devs spending time on the single player, hands down. Farcry(PC) is the perfect example. Best single player game in years, but tacked on multiplayer.

Also, I loved Dark Messiah and thought it was much better than the gamespot reviews.

mismajor99

Really, becuase I thought FarCry had great multiplayer and single player, what do you have to say about that one

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#60 Verge_6
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Except DMoMM was a glitchy monstrosity that was practically unplayable.
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#61 reddemon502
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

So, were you really serious? I still can't tell... I mean, I've seen my share of asinine game comparisons on this site, but I think this one takes the cake.

Are you actually implying that BioShock is a Dark Messiah rip off (based exclusively that they're in the first person perspectiveand you shoot things from your hands)? If so, then hahahahahaha.

SpigleyMcCheese

Im saying the gameplay is nothing new, what dont you get about that?

Is that Top Spin 2 in your Gamertag? That game is a rip off of pong.

O i wouldnt say that, but owell. and fyi I got the game free with my 360 so I thought i would give it a try

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#62 xXMercenariOXx
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OMG!! Get some taste man...

Bioshock will be the best FPS of the year...maybe GOTY. I dont care if has multiplayer or not

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#63 FancyKetchup25
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Your right theres no way im spending 60 dollars on this game....

im spending 70 and getting that kickass figurine!

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#64 dieworm
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Games don't need multiplayer to be great tbh
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#65 Sully28
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man i miss dark messiah i was in online beta and i loved it. Also its singleplayer demo was kick ass.

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#66 mattbbpl
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HAHAHA! That is, by far, the best comparison I have ever seen.

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#67 CAlNlAC
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Yeah, the TC brings up a good point that could be used lots of different game. For example. I should totally skip out on buying GT5 when it comes out as it is really similar to Big Rigs cause they are both racing games right? Thank you very much TC. I just saved myself some money!
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#68 mismajor99
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Leave it to the OP, who obviously never played System Shock to make some of the worst arguments against Bioshock. If you've played Irrational's (Looking Glass Studios) titles from years past, you wouldn't being saying such nonsense. Why does a game need to have multiplayer? that's nonsense, just look at most games that add multi that feels tacked on. If a game isn't built from the ground up for muli, like Quake Wars UT3 or CSS, than I would rather have the devs spending time on the single player, hands down. Farcry(PC) is the perfect example. Best single player game in years, but tacked on multiplayer.

Also, I loved Dark Messiah and thought it was much better than the gamespot reviews.

reddemon502

Really, becuase I thought FarCry had great multiplayer and single player, what do you have to say about that one

I would say you're probably the only person with that opinion. It's widely accepted that Farcry had a superior single player, and lackluster multiplayer(We're talking the best version of the game, the PC version). With development costs at staggering numbers, companies only have so much time to devote, and since resources are valuable, I would rather man hours be spent on delivering the best possible single player experience available.

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#69 OldParr
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

So, were you really serious? I still can't tell... I mean, I've seen my share of asinine game comparisons on this site, but I think this one takes the cake.

Are you actually implying that BioShock is a Dark Messiah rip off (based exclusively that they're in the first person perspectiveand you shoot things from your hands)? If so, then hahahahahaha.

reddemon502

Im saying the gameplay is nothing new, what dont you get about that?

whats new nowdays.tell me

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#70 BrooklynBomber
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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]Quite possily the greatest joke thread ever.KD-Archangel
For his sake I hope he wasn't serious...

Just came to lmao at the TC :D:lol::D
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[QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

Bill_McBlumpkin

Can I ask you exactly what the TC was trying to say? You probably just asumed he ment to say Dark Messiah is better than Bioshock.

No, he said:

"Also, when I played the demo I got a feeling like I have done all that stuff before, and I have. If anyone has played Might and Magic Dark Messiah they would no what I'm talking about, Bioshock is basically the same game."

They aren't ANYTHING alike from being in the first person and using your hands. Such an asinine thread.

that was my opinion

Well, it's a hilarious opinion.

Here, here's your crown. You're now the king of the world's worst game comparisons, and that's saying something on this forum. Congrats.

I got to that part and laughed and the first thing that came to mind was what you said exactly after.

Btw, since you have two of the cheeseburger tags in your sig, does that mean your going to eat two cheeseburgers if it gets a 9?

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#72 OldParr
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is the different ways and tactics and immersive story of the game.the creppy people,the creepy big daddy and lil syster,the amazing AI and every stuff that revolves the story of bioschok
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#73 Unstoppable_1
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Just so everyone knows the ONLY reason the creator of this post made it was so he gets more points for himself. It's obvious bait thread. Stop feeding it! Do not post!
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#74 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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I got to that part and laughed and the first thing that came to mind was what you said exactly after.

Btw, since you have two of the cheeseburger tags in your sig, does that mean your going to eat two cheeseburgers if it gets a 9?

xDonRobx

One of them says if it gets at least a 9.0, the other says under 9.0. Either way, Bill's gonna eat a cheeseburger.

In shame or celebration is what you should ask.

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#75 OldParr
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Just so everyone knows the ONLY reason the creator of this post made it was so he gets more points for himself. It's obvious bait thread. Stop feeding it! Do not post!Unstoppable_1

what are the points for and levels anyways??? i know u get to link and siggy and stuff like that but thats it

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#76 hamstergeddon
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Man i'm not even a lemming i find this RidilicuosEPaul

I agree.  Although I find it Ridiculous and not Ridilicuos  :P
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#77 The_PirateKing
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~-~You suck at life. I'm guessing you could hack the security bots in DM too? And customize your weapons by attaching stuff to them or just inventing new stuff? Does it let you poison the health machine so when enemies come to use it they kill themselves? There is more to the gameplay then using those powers. And that's just the basic game play. BioShock is a game that throws you into a survival of the fittest world and tests how far you will go to survive. Like would you kill the little sister knowing there might be a way to save them. DM was just a game where you fought things. You just compared some screen shots and calmed that it was proof that the games were the same. Sure, the hand styles look the same, I'll give you that. But is there anyone who DIDN'T notice that?~-~
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#78 Impex
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Wow. :shock:

I thought the Bioshock demo was great, and I think it'll score a 9.5. Not every game has to have multiplayer to be good. Look at MP. Helluva series, but it never had online.

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[QUOTE="Unstoppable_1"]Just so everyone knows the ONLY reason the creator of this post made it was so he gets more points for himself. It's obvious bait thread. Stop feeding it! Do not post!OldParr

what are the points for and levels anyways??? i know u get to link and siggy and stuff like that but thats it

People use that as a measure of respect. The higher the level, the more respected. Many people are more likely to take a level 20's word than a level 5's word.

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#80 Ninja-Vox
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You play BioShock for the amazing story and atmosphere... not for the gunplay.
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#81 OldParr
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[QUOTE="OldParr"]

[QUOTE="Unstoppable_1"]Just so everyone knows the ONLY reason the creator of this post made it was so he gets more points for himself. It's obvious bait thread. Stop feeding it! Do not post!Technoweirdo

what are the points for and levels anyways??? i know u get to link and siggy and stuff like that but thats it

People use that as a measure of respect. The higher the level, the more respected. Many people are more likely to take a level 20's word than a level 5's word.

awww ok, i think is kind of lame tough

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#82 V_Isle
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The countless AAA/AAAA's it's already recieved have just called, they want you to shut your piehole. :roll:
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#83 Bill_McBlumpkin
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="l_The_DetoX_l"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

I really, really hope it sarcasm I didn't pick up on.

xDonRobx

Can I ask you exactly what the TC was trying to say? You probably just asumed he ment to say Dark Messiah is better than Bioshock.

No, he said:

"Also, when I played the demo I got a feeling like I have done all that stuff before, and I have. If anyone has played Might and Magic Dark Messiah they would no what I'm talking about, Bioshock is basically the same game."

They aren't ANYTHING alike from being in the first person and using your hands. Such an asinine thread.

that was my opinion

Well, it's a hilarious opinion.

Here, here's your crown. You're now the king of the world's worst game comparisons, and that's saying something on this forum. Congrats.

I got to that part and laughed and the first thing that came to mind was what you said exactly after.

Btw, since you have two of the cheeseburger tags in your sig, does that mean your going to eat two cheeseburgers if it gets a 9?

I don't think so, I'm just guaranteeing myself a cheeseburger.

I'm always looking for good excuses to eat cheeseburgers, and that seemed like a decent one.

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#84 Guyzea
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I agree with the topic title! You should NOT waste your money on other things! Use your money for Bioshock!
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#85 -KinGz-
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[QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"][QUOTE="reddemon502"][QUOTE="Bill_McBlumpkin"]

This is easily one of the dumbest topics I've ever seen.

reddemon502

how so?

Because the games AREN'T ANYTHING alike, you just picked a couple shots with the same basic color schemes, it doesn't make any sense.

Dark Messiah was bad, its story was poor... just hobbled together as a poor segawa yo the game's bread and butter (wizardry type Elder SCrolls combat)and it plays NOTHING alike. It's more like Oblivion, with sword and staff combat, and magic casting, etc.

BioShock is a moody stroy driven FPS in the same vein as System Shock 2 set 5 decades ago using bio modifaction plasmids and various guns.... st underneath the sea.

I mean, honestly maa, they are NOTHING alike apart from the perspective. Dumbest topic ever.

How can you say they are nothing alike when the pictures above clearly show they are alike?

U just picked some stupid pics with the powers, this game is nothing like that crappy halfassed glitchy FPS.

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#86 BioShockOwnz
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The difference:

BioShock = Amazing game

Dark Messiah = Mediocre game

No thanks to your recommendation, OP. I'll be buying BioShock on day 1. :)

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#87 lokopi
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u need 2 watch an episode of south park...seriously....the one about the same thing ur talking abt......every game dev borrows an idea from another game....lemme tell u something......NEARLY EVERYTHING IN gaming in my opinion has been done...its hard 2 make an original game without having a lil bit of unoriginality....games have been here a long time......theyre like the movies....

how many movies that has a whole new storyline??? one....and wat movie was that??? it was SUPERBAD~!!!!! hahahahaha`!!

i cnt wait 4 that movie BTW....

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#88 drnick7
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This thread is a joke, right?
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#89 lokopi
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This thread is a joke, right?drnick7

yea..it is..

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#90 TemplaerDude
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This thread is based off of lies and assumptions.

No bad 60 dollar single player game is worth that money.

Bioshock isn't any other single player game, it is a generation defining, game of the year.

And it is nothing, NOTHING like Messiah, NOTHING at ALL.

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#91 -KinGz-
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This thread is a joke, right?drnick7

It isn't that guy just want to be "teh cool different guy" just for the sake of being it, so he hates a game every proffesional game reviewer has praised.

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#92 Tactis
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wow... 20 hours of gameplay and its still a rental??? what the heck its the longest FPS i have seen this generation you have got to be kidding me...
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#93 chrisrooR
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you're dense. Every PC owner will own this game.
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#94 solidgamer
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wtf that is you cant compare a rpg fantasy to a fps it might use the same things but in a totally different way

20 hours of sp is well worth the money for a fps

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#95 Pariah_001
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Despite everyone's adamance against the idea, the OP is correct. Bioshock isn't going to employ anything that wasn't already there in some other incarnation. It is just another FPS (despite Levine's words to the contrary). However, that alone doesn't mean it's a bad FPS. modern gamers have this kooky idea that generic games can't be good games.

My only problem with Bioshock is the direction the story is going in.