Bioshock, GOTY?????? I think everyone has been Bioshocked.

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#51 Knewl2
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They say metroid is easier than the previous 2 on normal mode only because the cotnrols are so much easier to use, with a gamecube cotnroller retro already said its harder than MP1 and 2

Also about graphics, its been said by more than 1 reviewer that it stacks up against any 360 or ps3 game atm, i quote "This game truely shows art trumps textures and polygons" GT review

GT also gave it a 9.8 FOR GAMEPLAY, i think gameplay is one of the most important things :O

so u can miss out on a great game

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#52 dhjohns
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Hmmm, funny. I've played through BioShock once already and I'm going on my second run. None of your "problems" affected me. It's still easily one of the best experiences I've had in gaming. Sorry bud, I don't let a few mutated creatures ruin my fun times. :)

The_Crucible

Big surprise that the guy with the name "BioShockOwnz" can't find anything wrong with Bioshock.

His name has been BioShockOwnz for over a year now, and you ignored my response to you completely. Kinda sucks that your "bad faces" are purposly designed to look like that, huh?

I did respond to that point, maybe not directly to you. I am fully aware of how the characters are supposed to look. Aware that their faces are all f-ed up. That doesn't change the fact that they graphically look like crap and animate even worse. And I'm just talking about faces, here.

First, you have been shown why in this thread the faces look this way. Two, your right the game is trash due to the FACES. :roll: Are you serious? The only thing I don't like is the way the game stutters sometimes, other than that, the game is simply awesome.

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#53 sexy_chimp
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Seckzy_Gamer

MP3 is a toddler's FPS, even in the review they talk about how simple it is

Lol what review are you reading? Sony defense force?

I'm not a cow, i don't even like cows. I play my games on the PC/360, but I have to admit that even the sad FPSs on the Ps3 are tons better than what the Wii puts out

God your a pathetic fanboy. Whatever, if you want to miss out on the best shooting games ever made, go ahead.

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#54 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]

MP3 is a toddler's FPS, even in the review they talk about how simple it is

Seckzy_Gamer

Get over yourself. Something can be simple and complex at the same time. People leveled the same criticism at Halo when it came out.

Halo is the best FPS period ever made for the consoles and it was fun when I played it on the PC, they have evolved since then and IMO MP3 is step backwards for FPSs

:lol: It is getting praised in reviews and it's finally a game where the Wiimote really proves itself as a gaming device.

From the Wii section of sites and not from a unbiased source, I want Jeff from GS to review this sucka!

I didn't know Gametrailers and IGN were biased sources.

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#55 Seckzy_Gamer
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[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]

MP3 is a toddler's FPS, even in the review they talk about how simple it is

Shazenab

Get over yourself. Something can be simple and complex at the same time. People leveled the same criticism at Halo when it came out.

Halo is the best FPS period ever made for the consoles and it was fun when I played it on the PC, they have evolved since then and IMO MP3 is step backwards for FPSs

Best fps? How many fps games have you actually played? Seriously.

I said the best for the console, on the PC i like the Quake series, Duke Nukem 3D and Hl2 the best for that there platform

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#56 SpruceCaboose
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Halo is the best FPS period ever made for the consoles and it was fun when I played it on the PC, they have evolved since then and IMO MP3 is step backwards for FPSs

Seckzy_Gamer

Good thing your opinion has been proven to be irrelevent!

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#57 Knewl2
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You say Halo was revolutionary, but u miss the obvious fact that MP's lock on system was revolutionary in the first and this one is said to be as big a step forward

"ull never want to play a shooter with dual analogues again"

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#58 k-diddy66
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that looks liek a splicer?if so theyre faces are deformed because thyre addiucted to adam and theyre addition has created all sorts of mutations.its not perfect,theyre a few fgraphical glitches but god is it a great game:D

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#59 BatmanBegins24
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The splicers are supposed to look disfigured and horrible.Thats the point.They said on the limited edition dvd that they got inspiration from pictures they found on the internet that showed soldiers that got plastic surgeries because their faces were disfigured during the war (World War II I think) and since the medical technology wasn't there yet, they ended up look horrible.
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#60 akif22
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those splicers are supposed to look deformed etc

the other complaint i could have is that with the physics engine, the limbs sometimes move after enemies are dead, but it's a minor thing

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#61 Seckzy_Gamer
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[QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="Knewl2"]

sexy_chimp

MP3 is a toddler's FPS, even in the review they talk about how simple it is

Lol what review are you reading? Sony defense force?

I'm not a cow, i don't even like cows. I play my games on the PC/360, but I have to admit that even the sad FPSs on the Ps3 are tons better than what the Wii puts out

God your a pathetic fanboy. Whatever, if you want to miss out on the best shooting games ever made, go ahead.

Miss out on what? That garbage isn't even good enough for my dog!

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#62 Gaara79
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It wont win GOTY in my eyes ... jsut another corridor shooter ... choice you say? either follow the arrow or go into a room with some item pickups ... eveyones experiance is different? hell no...

Difficulty? "not run n gun" ... yea they got that right ... its "run and wrench" it was so easy .. 2 shotting splicers and security turrets ............ (on medium).

Dont get me wrong, it was great fun ... but erm ... everything it claimed to be other than immersive was a lie.... hell by the end I was killing big daddies in 4 seconds.

Meu2k7

Why did you keep the arrow on? It was the first thing I killed in the game:P

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#63 sexy_chimp
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[QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="sexy_chimp"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"][QUOTE="Knewl2"]

Seckzy_Gamer

MP3 is a toddler's FPS, even in the review they talk about how simple it is

Lol what review are you reading? Sony defense force?

I'm not a cow, i don't even like cows. I play my games on the PC/360, but I have to admit that even the sad FPSs on the Ps3 are tons better than what the Wii puts out

God your a pathetic fanboy. Whatever, if you want to miss out on the best shooting games ever made, go ahead.

Miss out on what? That garbage isn't even good enough for my dog!

Is that why Metroid Prime won GOTY and Halo didn't? Damn, your dog has expensive tastes.

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#64 dhjohns
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those splicers are supposed to look deformed etc

the other complaint i could have is that with the physics engine, the limbs sometimes move after enemies are dead, but it's a minor thing

akif22

It seems like they are always waving their hand, even when dead. :lol:

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#65 SpruceCaboose
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The splicers are supposed to look disfigured and horrible.Thats the point.They said on the limited edition dvd that they got inspiration from pictures they found on the internet that showed soldiers that got plastic surgeries because their faces were disfigured during the war (World War II I think) and since the medical technology wasn't there yet, they ended up look horrible.BatmanBegins24

Project Facade. I linked to it earlier, but here you go. It is kinda creepy.

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#66 tango90101
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Having played and finished it, i can safely say, the tc doesn't know what he's talking about....

it's gorgeous....

then again, if you look hard enough at ANYTHING you can find something to gripe about....:roll:

ps...does this game have alternate endings? kinda confused at the final cutscene..... :question:

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#67 BatmanBegins24
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[QUOTE="BatmanBegins24"]The splicers are supposed to look disfigured and horrible.Thats the point.They said on the limited edition dvd that they got inspiration from pictures they found on the internet that showed soldiers that got plastic surgeries because their faces were disfigured during the war (World War II I think) and since the medical technology wasn't there yet, they ended up look horrible.SpruceCaboose

Project Facade. I linked to it earlier, but here you go. It is kinda creepy.

It extremely creepy.Thanks for the link.

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#68 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="BatmanBegins24"]The splicers are supposed to look disfigured and horrible.Thats the point.They said on the limited edition dvd that they got inspiration from pictures they found on the internet that showed soldiers that got plastic surgeries because their faces were disfigured during the war (World War II I think) and since the medical technology wasn't there yet, they ended up look horrible.BatmanBegins24

Project Facade. I linked to it earlier, but here you go. It is kinda creepy.

It extremely creepy.Thanks for the link.

No problem. Its strange, some turn out looking rather normal, then others are almost worse off then at the start...

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#69 Farzan777
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I have been always hyping Mass Effect to be Game of the Year because its BioWare and they make Game of the Year type games, but after playing Bioshock, its gonna be a really tough competition. Glad to be a 360 owner right now :)
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#70 gingerdivid
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[QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

"One of which is the absolutely horrible facial construction and animations."

Yeah, cause that makes a game worse.:roll:

BioShockOwnz

It does make the game worse. Can you honestly believe it doesn't? If so, why did they make anything look real? Because the more real it looks, the more you believe what you are seeing, and the more you get into the game. Hard to feel suspense when you are laughing at the characters that you are supposed to fear.

No, it doesn't make a game better.

Proof:

Gman begs to differ :)

Good facials don't make a game, but using HL2 as an example it certainly can make a game better.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="The_Crucible"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

"One of which is the absolutely horrible facial construction and animations."

Yeah, cause that makes a game worse.:roll:

gingerdivid

It does make the game worse. Can you honestly believe it doesn't? If so, why did they make anything look real? Because the more real it looks, the more you believe what you are seeing, and the more you get into the game. Hard to feel suspense when you are laughing at the characters that you are supposed to fear.

No, it doesn't make a game better.

Proof:

Gman begs to differ :)

Good facials don't make a game, but using HL2 as an example it certainly can make a game better.

Indeed. :)

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#72 JediRiff
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Seriously, this game has some very beautiful and colorful elements. 2K did a wonderful job on this game. But already there's so much hype surrounding the game with thoughts of GOTY, "Can any game beat this?", and "Bioshock, new graphics king." It appears, though, that most of the hype is blinding people of very noticable issues.

One of which is the absolutely horrible facial construction and animations. The characters, other than Big Daddy and Little Sis, look horrible. I'm not saying the game is crap due to this. I'm just saying that all of this hype doesn't equal what you see here:

And this isn't half as bad as when you see it in motion. If you don't believe me, go get the game or the demo. Towards the beginning you pass out on the floor. And when you start to come to, two bad dudes are there talking about you. Look at their faces and how they animate. Its reallly, really bad.

GOTY????? I sure as heck hope not.

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#74 The_Crucible
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TC you are basing your opinion of the animation of the demo right?

you have not read my two posts saying that the animated people in the scene you used as an example are in fact wearing masks.

does this qualify as ownage?

sts106mat
And once again you ignore the posts where I acknowledge the masks and messed up faces and how that's how they are supposed to look. Buuuuut, the animations and the graphics for those messed up faces is horrible. Should i repeat it again for you?
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#75 JediRiff
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Grrrr... what the heck is with posts disappearing? This has happened to me several times! I will quote something, then I will put my comment up after the quote, and submit it, and it just puts up the quote! Arg, anyways, what I was trying to say with my quote there, was that the pic was taken from the demo, and I think the models looked even better in the game. Also, all of the splicers look fake, and they are supposed to! You have a majority of them that are deformed and horribly mutated from all the plasmid use and the ADAM. The ones that arent ugly and deformed look like fake dolls, and its supposed to be that way to drive home the point. The doctors there state in the game that plastic surgery has taken on a new leaf in Rapture, because now the flesh is like clay for them to mold. And its pretty obvious how well THAT went. It all adds to the creepiness of the game, and shows part of why everyones sanity went spiraling out of control.
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#77 5th_element
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ITs a definate contender for GOTY!!
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#78 kazrium
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I thought the story was awesome, and for me it was the best game of the year. Until something comes out that beats it, it has my vote.

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#79 lhughey
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THis game deserved much higher than a 9.0 from GS. It is amazing. It will be GOTY at many other sites.
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Seriously, this game has some very beautiful and colorful elements. 2K did a wonderful job on this game. But already there's so much hype surrounding the game with thoughts of GOTY, "Can any game beat this?", and "Bioshock, new graphics king." It appears, though, that most of the hype is blinding people of very noticable issues.

One of which is the absolutely horrible facial construction and animations. The characters, other than Big Daddy and Little Sis, look horrible. I'm not saying the game is crap due to this. I'm just saying that all of this hype doesn't equal what you see here:

And this isn't half as bad as when you see it in motion. If you don't believe me, go get the game or the demo. Towards the beginning you pass out on the floor. And when you start to come to, two bad dudes are there talking about you. Look at their faces and how they animate. Its reallly, really bad.

GOTY????? I sure as heck hope not.

The_Crucible

The people in the game are all ugly the characters themselves ewww I hate looking at the main characters up close :(

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#81 p0op
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lol, ive beaten this absolutely incrediblegameand never even noticed these dumb little hitches that you point out, whatever im gonna go play it some more, oh yeah TC, you fail, have fun playing motorstorm with your six-axis!!! wooohooo clunky games on old controllers FTW!!

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#82 foxhound_fox
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Um... you do know the story behind the game right? At least the opening little bit? Because the facial construction is contextual to that story... :|

And the animations are fantastic. They really set the mood of the game quite well. Especially the lumbering Big Daddies following around the Little Sisters who are hopping and singing. I don't know what you have trouble seeing but BioShock is a stupendous game that is one-of-a-kind. If you don't experience it, that's your fault.
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#83 Chipp
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"][QUOTE="Seckzy_Gamer"]

MP3 is a toddler's FPS, even in the review they talk about how simple it is

Seckzy_Gamer

Get over yourself. Something can be simple and complex at the same time. People leveled the same criticism at Halo when it came out.

Halo is the best FPS period ever made for the consoles and it was fun when I played it on the PC, they have evolved since then and IMO MP3 is step backwards for FPSs

I didn't like Halo on the xbox nor pc. And to correct you I wouldn't call MP3 a fps. Its Metriod which is a adventure game, not run n gun.

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#84 Riverwolf007
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Standard PS3 fan mantra, if it's not on PS3 then pick it to pieces to try and convince people they should believe some nonsense instead of what they can see right in front of them.

You left out that it's 2 hours long and way too easy for someone of your superior skills.

GOTY? Probobaly not. Great title that people should experence for themselves? Mos Def.

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#85 Pdiddy105
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nice try, but a few stiff animations are going to stop Bioshock from winning GOTY.

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#86 BillGates_Money
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It wont win GOTY in my eyes ... jsut another corridor shooter ... choice you say? either follow the arrow or go into a room with some item pickups ... eveyones experiance is different? hell no...

Difficulty? "not run n gun" ... yea they got that right ... its "run and wrench" it was so easy .. 2 shotting splicers and security turrets ............ (on medium).

Dont get me wrong, it was great fun ... but erm ... everything it claimed to be other than immersive was a lie.... hell by the end I was killing big daddies in 4 seconds.

Meu2k7

how can you shoot with a wrench??? killing big daddies in 4 seconds huh? the first time around and with a wrench???

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#87 -Tretiak
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I can't help but laugh at the haters trying to bring down BioShock. The critics have spoken. It is the #4 game all-time. BioShock awaits its prize.
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#88 Sonic_on_crack
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Crysis ,Halo 3 , or Mass Effect
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#89 foxhound_fox
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how can you shoot with a wrench??? killing big daddies in 4 seconds huh? the first time around and with a wrench???BillGates_Money


Obviously playing on easy. On hard it takes about 6 Frag grenades + 2 heat-seeking RPGs + 4 Proximity mines and enough Incinerate! to burn Rapture to the ground to take down one. I've also noticed that it takes me about 15-20 Trap Bolts to take one down without any research or damage bonuses on hard.
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#90 standcm12
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"One of which is the absolutely horrible facial construction and animations."

Yeah, cause that makes a game worse.:roll:

BioShockOwnz

qft.

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#91 tocool340
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"One of which is the absolutely horrible facial construction and animations."

Yeah, cause that makes a game worse.:roll:

BioShockOwnz

I say the same thing when Cows and lemmings start killing each other over how a game looks SLIGHTLY inferior on the console of choice against the console they don't like. Especially the thread I see about the PS3 don't have Sku in the boards right now....

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#92 Uptown
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BioShock will be a contender....but it wont win. It doesnt have the longevity IMO.

I think the 5 nominees will be....

  1. BioShock / Unreal Tournament 3 (PS3)
  2. Halo 3
  3. Metroid Prime 3
  4. Super Mario Galaxy
  5. Ratchet & Clank Future
Thats just my guess
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#93 Verge_6
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Didn't even do research before hitting the 'new thread' button, did you?
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#94 NAPK1NS
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BioShock is the best game ever made, it deserves everything it can get.
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#95 foxhound_fox
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BioShock will be a contender....but it wont win. It doesnt have the longevity IMO.

I think the 5 nominees will be....

  1. BioShock / Unreal Tournament 3 (PS3)
  2. Halo 3
  3. Metroid Prime 3
  4. Super Mario Galaxy
  5. Ratchet & Clank Future
Thats just my guessUptown


I'm going to be replaying BioShock until my face goes numb. The gameplay lends itself greatly to replaying all the levels over and over... since everytime you do something it will be different from the time before.

The only games you mentioned I see as contenders are Mario Galaxy, and BioShock. That may change to Prime 3 after I play it but as it stands only BioShock and Galaxy are real GOTY contenders, IMO.

Halo 3 will most likely lose its spot yet again to Prime 3 just for irony's sake. Ratchet & Clank doesn't look anything like GOTY material at all... just another great game in the series. UTIII doesn't look like it will have the ability to pull off an amazing experience, it will just be that game everyone is playing 4 years from now.
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#96 darkodonnie
Member since 2007 • 2384 Posts

It wont win GOTY in my eyes ... jsut another corridor shooter ... choice you say? either follow the arrow or go into a room with some item pickups ... eveyones experiance is different? hell no...

Difficulty? "not run n gun" ... yea they got that right ... its "run and wrench" it was so easy .. 2 shotting splicers and security turrets ............ (on medium).

Dont get me wrong, it was great fun ... but erm ... everything it claimed to be other than immersive was a lie.... hell by the end I was killing big daddies in 4 seconds.

Meu2k7

try the game on hard...it takes a lot to take out a big daddy

as to the faces of the splicers they are supposed to be like that due to their mutations

and on the Metroid Prime 3 side-topic, if a Metroid Prime game which requires exploration in addition to shooting is a toddler's game...I guess a straight-forward run-and-gun like Halo is a fetus' game?

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#97 The_Crucible
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Standard PS3 fan mantra, if it's not on PS3 then pick it to pieces to try and convince people they should believe some nonsense instead of what they can see right in front of them.

You left out that it's 2 hours long and way too easy for someone of your superior skills.

GOTY? Probobaly not. Great title that people should experence for themselves? Mos Def.

Riverwolf007

Happens both ways, homey. I just don't want to hear about how perfect an insurmountable it is. It has flaws, just like most. Do I see another title doing much better? I'm really not sure. But it won't put much faith in GOTY for me though either.

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#99 The_Crucible
Member since 2007 • 3305 Posts

every game has flaws. but bioshocks are so few and miniscule. thats the reason its number 4 on gamerankings all time ranked games list, above resi4 no less.

sts106mat

I find that sad. Just because the majority of the titles for all systems had been lackluster prior to Bioshock, it looks great. But lets see how it fairs in one, two, three years. It'll be looked at as a great game but not how it is now.

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#100 mruurds
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Bioshock is a definite contender for GOTY... whether you like it or not. I think that it's a gripping experience.