Bioware comments on the coding and the PS3 and says no Shepard for you

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] lol, Exclusive. Animal-Mother

Ah you again. The guy who would like to argue with fact. Did the Oxford Dictionary concede?

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

[QUOTE="kolkov01"]

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"] how are they meaningless? It's percentages that are meaningless.

if console only has one game and it's a AAAE then 100% of it's games are AAAE making it the best console in the world

if on the other had we go by raw numbers then we know that it not the case

Hahadouken

so fewer exclusives is better than more exclusives? that's what you are saying here whether you realize it or not.

CaseyWegner

why are you talking about people buying or not buying systems for these games? that's not what we're talking about. we're talking about these games being available when you buy a system. i didn't buy a ps3 just so i could play resistance but i did still buy the game. your percentages thing is silly when absolute numbers show that there are more exclusives.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Ah you again. The guy who would like to argue with fact. Did the Oxford Dictionary concede?

Stats_

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Bioware claim they have an exclusive deal with microsoft, no one in here knows anything else, so it's all fanboy speculation.

Being owned by EA means nothing if MS have made a deal with them which they may have by the Bioware Comments.

For now, it should be accepted that it's exclusive to the PC and Xbox platforms.

Bazooka_4ME

ahem.. I think youspelled multiplat wrong.

The game being in two to more systems gives a person an alternate choice of playing the game hence multiplaform.

Calling the game exclusive is incorrect. Calling it exclusive and naming the systems it's on, is however very correct.

Saying it's exclusive to the PC and 360 simple means it's can't be found anyone but on the aforementioned systems. This is what we call the english language.

It is a widley used phrase.

adjective1 excluding or not admitting other things(I.e, excluding the PS3 and Wii). 2 restricted to the person, group, or area concerned (Group being the mentioned, PC and 360)

In System Wars this term isn't used, i agree, and fully understand that, but claiming the phrase isn't real is just wrong.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] lol, Exclusive. Animal-Mother

Ah you again. The guy who would like to argue with fact. Did the Oxford Dictionary concede?

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] lol, Exclusive. Animal-Mother

Ah you again. The guy who would like to argue with fact. Did the Oxford Dictionary concede?

Wait, so if you don't have a PC then you are still not excluded?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

Ah you again. The guy who would like to argue with fact. Did the Oxford Dictionary concede?

rp108

Wait, so if you don't have a PC then you are still not excluded?

[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="Phazevariance"] I will mark them with a "ha ha ha ha haaa haaa, ha ha ha ha haaa haaa". Won't ever come over unless ms drops the restrictions. delta3074

not only are you not offering any kind of proof for this but you also seem to be under the impression that microsoft used to own bioware. :|

[QUOTE="kolkov01"][QUOTE="RoOodriGowW"]

Only difference is former xbox exclusives do actually go to the ps3 :lol:

RoOodriGowW

But they were never announced and advertised as exclusives it was flawed logic that made we think they were : 'they were exclusives in the ps2 so they will most likely be on the ps3 '.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Argue with fact. Your bending it to your own means. If somethign were exclusive then why would it pertain to two completely different groups of people. Because at the end of the day we are typing on PC', some people may not be able to run it well. But at the end of the day ANYONE with a PC can buy this. So your not really excluding anyone.

Animal-Mother

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

I honestly don't know why you find it so hard to grasp the english language, especially when given definitions of the word, and seen the term being used in official publications.

I would understand if you were arguing that in System Wars, the term exclusive can only be used to specify ONE system a game is available on. However in the real world, the term exclusive is far more versatile, as shown by it's definition. Even the definition YOU provided shows this.

Calling the game exclusive is incorrect. Calling it exclusive and naming the systems it's on, is however very correct.

Saying it's exclusive to the PC and 360 simple means it's can't be found anyone but on the aforementioned systems. This is what we call the english language.

It is a widley used phrase.

adjective1 excluding or not admitting other things(I.e, excluding the PS3 and Wii). 2 restricted to the person, group, or area concerned (Group being the mentioned, PC and 360)

In System Wars this term isn't used, i agree, and fully understand that, but claiming the phrase isn't real is just wrong.

Stats_

man, you're really trying hard on this...

you completely tripped your self up there, he meant the deal was exclusive, which it is, EA didn't make the deal with anyone else did they, so the deal is exclusive to MS is it not? regardless of how many platforms the game is on, the deal itself is exclusive to MSdelta3074

:lol: you actually think anyone in SW cares about what "deal" was made??.. (maybe, this is SW :P )

As long as the game is available in another platform then it's not exclusive.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="delta3074"]you clearly know absolutely nothing about contracts of sale, it is quite common for companys to put what's known as a 'clause' into there contracts, i will simplify it for you EA "we would like to buy bioware" MS "ok, but only if you sign this contract to keep mass effect on 360 and PC only" EA "ok, we can do that, you have a deal" in other words, to buy bioware from MS , EA had to sign a legally binding contract that mass effect stays on the 360 and PC, quite a simple concept to understand reallydelta3074

why do you keep saying that ms owned bioware?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

Stats_

I honestly don't know why you find it so hard to grasp the english language, especially when given definitions of the word, and seen the term being used in official publications.

I would understand if you were arguing that in System Wars, the term exclusive can only be used to specify ONE system a game is available on. However in the real world, the term exclusive is far more versatile, as shown by it's definition. Even the definition YOU provided shows this.

You wanna know what's exclusive, somehting that pertains to ONE group that excludes others.

I.E gears of war 2 on 360 ONLY

So please in the future don't question my comprehension skills just because I don't agree with you.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Argue with fact. Your bending it to your own means. If somethign were exclusive then why would it pertain to two completely different groups of people. Because at the end of the day we are typing on PC', some people may not be able to run it well. But at the end of the day ANYONE with a PC can buy this. So your not really excluding anyone.

Animal-Mother

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsoft's E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol anyone wiht a PC can go out and buy the game, that's not exclusive or excluding anyone. Thats the fact of the matter. Heck my mom can go out and buy ME2 and install it on her laptop if she wanted to.

Animal-Mother

I honestly don't know why you find it so hard to grasp the english language, especially when given definitions of the word, and seen the term being used in official publications.

I would understand if you were arguing that in System Wars, the term exclusive can only be used to specify ONE system a game is available on. However in the real world, the term exclusive is far more versatile, as shown by it's definition. Even the definition YOU provided shows this.

i got the terminus armor when i bought the game from gamestop. :)

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

KaoSXFACTOR

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsofts E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Stats_"]

I honestly don't know why you find it so hard to grasp the english language, especially when given definitions of the word, and seen the term being used in official publications.

I would understand if you were arguing that in System Wars, the term exclusive can only be used to specify ONE system a game is available on. However in the real world, the term exclusive is far more versatile, as shown by it's definition. Even the definition YOU provided shows this.

CaseyWegner

i got the terminus armor when i bought the game from gamestop. :)

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Hahadouken"] What restrictions? EA bought the franchise dude. MS doesn't have any influence on Mass 2 and beyond. They published Mass 1 and that's it. CaseyWegner

not only are you not offering any kind of proof for this but you also seem to be under the impression that microsoft used to own bioware. :|

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

I'm not bending anything. That is how the word is used. English lessons would go a long way in system Wars. I'v already provided you with a definition of the word, to which you then copy pasted some more without reading which further proved my point.

You can continue to argue if you like, just don't argue with me about it, take it higher, why not argue with whoever created the word.

KaoSXFACTOR

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsofts E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]you clearly know absolutely nothing about contracts of sale, it is quite common for companys to put what's known as a 'clause' into there contracts, i will simplify it for you EA "we would like to buy bioware" MS "ok, but only if you sign this contract to keep mass effect on 360 and PC only" EA "ok, we can do that, you have a deal" in other words, to buy bioware from MS , EA had to sign a legally binding contract that mass effect stays on the 360 and PC, quite a simple concept to understand reallydelta3074

not only are you not offering any kind of proof for this but you also seem to be under the impression that microsoft used to own bioware. :|

bioware was independent until ea bought them.

You posted the same exact thing yesterday. Once again it's all still speculation, there's no defining "MS has Mass effect on lockdown"

I mean remember when people claimed NG2 wouldn't come to PS3,

Look at the stamp on the case?
Sort of odd it's a multiplat now right?

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol anyone wiht a PC can go out and buy the game, that's not exclusive or excluding anyone. Thats the fact of the matter. Heck my mom can go out and buy ME2 and install it on her laptop if she wanted to.

Animal-Mother

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsofts E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsofts E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

delta3074

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol anyone wiht a PC can go out and buy the game, that's not exclusive or excluding anyone. Thats the fact of the matter. Heck my mom can go out and buy ME2 and install it on her laptop if she wanted to.

Animal-Mother

I honestly don't know why you find it so hard to grasp the english language, especially when given definitions of the word, and seen the term being used in official publications.

I would understand if you were arguing that in System Wars, the term exclusive can only be used to specify ONE system a game is available on. However in the real world, the term exclusive is far more versatile, as shown by it's definition. Even the definition YOU provided shows this.

Ughh. You're very dense. My example of Kmart and Bestbuy is a PERFECT example of how the term exclusive can be used.

I won't argue any longer. Just READ this, one of the many definitions, and actually take it what it means.

restricted to the person, group, or area concerned

Now break it down, Area concerned? Consoles. In that regard it's exclusive to the Xbox.(This however is systemwwars, not console wars, so excluding the PC is a no no)

Group? It's exclusive to the PC and Xbox. This is fact, not opinion. If youw ant to provide some FACTUAL definitions, then be my guest, but as you've shown the last time you tried that, you'r emore concerned with proving a point that being correct or you would have actually read the definition you posted, and realised that i was correct.

One more definition

limited to the object or objects designated: exclusive attention to business

This means when Gamespot, or MS or SONY say it's "exclusive to the PS3/360 and PC" it is 100% accurate and a valid use of the word exclusive.

We can go on all day till were blue in the face.

Mass effect 2 isn't exclusive in any sense of the word.

End of story. Because as I go on, ANYONE WITH A COMPUTER CAN BUY THE GAME.

That doesn't exclude anyone. Because i'm sure as hell everyone here has a computer

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol anyone wiht a PC can go out and buy the game, that's not exclusive or excluding anyone. Thats the fact of the matter. Heck my mom can go out and buy ME2 and install it on her laptop if she wanted to.

Animal-Mother

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsofts E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

What are you talking about? It's because its part of the English language. You're simply trying to deny the definition of the word to suit your agenda. You were proven wrong with my last post. And what does my posting history have to do with the topic at hand? We are speaking facts here. We speaking about things that can be proven. And I JUST proved to you that the word has more than one meaning.

You can go on all day long. Because in this group the PC users pertains to mostly anyone. I mean is there anyone you know who doesn't own a computer?Animal-Mother

Now you are getting silly with this, because you are simply using assumptions.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

Everytime I see these exclusive arguments I'm simply going to post this image from Microsofts E3 Press Conference 2009

The term "exclusive" has multiple meanings in the English language. It can mean single or sole, OR it can mean more than than one as long as something is EXCLUDED.

KaoSXFACTOR

What are you talking about? It's because its part of the English language. You're simply trying to deny the definition of the word to suit your agenda. You were proven wrong with my last post. And what does my posting history have to do with the topic at hand? We are speaking facts here. We speaking about things that can be proven. And I JUST proved to you that the word has more than one meaning.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]You can go on all day long. Because in this group the PC users pertains to mostly anyone. I mean is there anyone you know who doesn't own a computer?KaoSXFACTOR

Now you are getting silly with this, because you are simply using assumptions.

Assumptions which have nothing to do with the discussion at hand ... Even if everyone on the planet had a gaming rig, th word exclusive and how it is and can be used would not change.

I feel we're wasting our time here ...

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Sorry but as I go on my continuous rampage about what I think exclusive is I will tell you this. I would say a majority of us are on PCs. Now despite that fact there are people who don't own console but own PC's. Tell me how it's exclusive when ANYONE with a PC can go get it. Your not excluding anyone. Non gamers, cows, sheep, moms, dads, game nuts who don't own a PS3, 360 or Wii. Also buy seeing your posting history I will not bother further than this post.Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]it's exclusive because the english language says so, enough saidStats_

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"] Absolutely not. So essentially your saying it's ok for your girlfriend to cheat on you. I mean if she's just with you and another guy and excludes every one else right?Animal-Mother

The PS3/Wii

Is it making sense now?

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="Stats_"]that's a bad analogy, my wife was never exclusive to begin with, because she had already been on 'multiple platforms' before she met me (she's laughing at me right now) , and she's with me,which EXCLUDES every one else,which still apllies to both meanings of the word exclusive, as defined by the english languageKaoSXFACTOR

The PS3/Wii

Is it making sense now?

Honestly AM, take it up with the dictionary. We just speak the language, we don't decide what it means. You'reembarrassing yourself and GUFU/

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] But she's exclusive now/. Tell me I would be willing to bet most of us are on some kind of computer here. So who does that leave left to exclude?

Animal-Mother

The PS3/Wii

Is it making sense now?

Another show of your excellent logic. This means that since i have a PS3. Uncharted is no longer a PS3 exclusive. How wonderful.

[QUOTE="Stats_"]

[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"] Absolutely not. So essentially your saying it's ok for your girlfriend to cheat on you. I mean if she's just with you and another guy and excludes every one else right?Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

The PS3/Wii

Is it making sense now?

Stats_

Another show of your excellent logic. This means that since i have a PS3. Uncharted is no longer a PS3 exclusive. How wonderful.

I'm lost.What is the discussion about.The exclusivity of ME2?

I'm lost.What is the discussion about.The exclusivity of ME2?

Lto_thaG

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I'm lost.What is the discussion about.The exclusivity of ME2?

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I'm lost.What is the discussion about.The exclusivity of ME2?

Lto_thaG

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]

I'm lost.What is the discussion about.The exclusivity of ME2?

Lto_thaG

We are discussing what the word exclusive means, and the validity of the phrase's console exclusive, sony exclusive etc.

In all sense of the word the aforemention phrases are accurate and valid, not in system wars, but in the real word. It's is perfectly valid to say ME is excluisve to the 360 and PC.

We have provided AM several definitions of the word, but he'd rather argue with fact then accept that maybe, just maybe, he is wrong.

Rules are being to specific.If a game is available on more than 1 system it's not exclusive anymore.
And going on about it being exclusive to the pc and 360 is just useless debate.

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Yup, Some people are claiming it's exclusive to Xbox 360 and PC :lol:Stats_

We are discussing what the word exclusive means, and the validity of the phrase's console exclusive, sony exclusive etc.

In all sense of the word the aforemention phrases are accurate and valid, not in system wars, but in the real word. It's is perfectly valid to say ME is excluisve to the 360 and PC.

We have provided AM several definitions of the word, but he'd rather argue with fact then accept that maybe, just maybe, he is wrong.

[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Yup, Some people are claiming it's exclusive to Xbox 360 and PC :lol:Animal-Mother

Left 4 Dead 2 is exclusively on X-Box 360 and PC-DVD

Mass Effect 2 is exclusively on X-Box 360 and PC-DVD

Now. Based on the English language and the definition of the word. Prove me wrong.

No surprise where this topic went.

ME2 is on the PC, so it is NOT a 360 AAAE. Is it a title you can use to bolster the 360's lineup? Of course. But it isn't an exclusive by any means. And no, that lame 'console exclusive' term does not count.