BioWare: "calling the next game Mass Effect 4 is a disservice"

It doesn't have to be called Mass Effect at all. Give it a new name.blackace

Throw back in the RPG elements and ship combat, and I'll forget about that whole "Mass Effect 3" thing that happened.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]That's what I'm talinbout - also included should be well done, player controlled, surface, air and space vehicles. :D

SecretPolice

Actual space exploration and combat, ala Frontier: Elite or Evochron Mercenary, would be beyond epic! We could build our own ship and get parts for it...oh boy!!!

Unfortunatly, it wont happen :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] :o that might be a bit of a huge undertaking if you include air vehicles!PAL360

Actual space exploration and combat, ala Frontier: Elite or Evochron Mercenary, would be beyond epic! We could build our own ship and get parts for it...oh boy!!!

Unfortunatly, it wont happen :P

Tis the art of negotiation, ask for way more than what you'l actually settle for. :P

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] :o that might be a bit of a huge undertaking if you include air vehicles!PAL360

Actual space exploration and combat, ala Frontier: Elite or Evochron Mercenary, would be beyond epic! We could build our own ship and get parts for it...oh boy!!!

Unfortunatly, it wont happen :P

[QUOTE="drinkerofjuice"]Whatever the story may be, I want it to be years before the Commander Shep saga. They have near endless possibilities with the universe to the extent where the trilogy can be easily dwarfed.blue_hazy_basic

It would have to be an even shorter time scale because the first contact war setting would be extremely boring. It would just be humans vs everything else.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]Eh, perhaps I'm just spoiled by Bungie dev'ed Halo Reach that included all that and it's just a FPS. :o C'mon Bio, you can do it. :P

blue_hazy_basic

Actual space exploration and combat, ala Frontier: Elite or Evochron Mercenary, would be beyond epic! We could build our own ship and get parts for it...oh boy!!!

Unfortunatly, it wont happen :P

  And we would have two conclusions to that.. A) SWTOR in which people were b!tching how lame and linear the space combat was, when it was suppose to be a mini game.. B) Spore a game that promised everything.. And it did do that, at the depth of a teaspoon the entire way..  

But I want it all. :cry:

Tis the art of negotiation, ask for way more than what you'l actually settle for. :P

SecretPolice

i'd literally crap my pants if it had ship to ship combat.

blue_hazy_basic

It would be soo good!

To be honest, when Mass Effect 1 was announced with a huge explorable world, this and that, i thought we would have that kind of real time freedom! They failed at that, but thankfully surpassed the hype in everything else!

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="PAL360"]

Actual space exploration and combat, ala Frontier: Elite or Evochron Mercenary, would be beyond epic! We could build our own ship and get parts for it...oh boy!!!

Unfortunatly, it wont happen :P

sSubZerOo

  And we would have two conclusions to that.. A) SWTOR in which people were b!tching how lame and linear the space combat was, when it was suppose to be a mini game.. B) Spore a game that promised everything.. And it did do that, at the depth of a teaspoon the entire way..  

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

But I want it all. :cry:

Tis the art of negotiation, ask for way more than what you'l actually settle for. :P

PAL360

i'd literally crap my pants if it had ship to ship combat.

blue_hazy_basic

It would be soo good!

To be honest, when Mass Effect 1 was announced with a huge explorable world, this and that, i thought we would have that kind of real time freedom! They failed at that, but thankfully surpassed the hype in everything else!

Shepard's story is done. I'm cool with that, I just want to get back into that universe with a new story arc.

Hopefully by the time the new game comes out someone can mention the series without some dumbass whining about the ending.

To be honest, you can create any game genre from the Mass Effect Universe, an MMO, an FPS, Open World, Card games, RTS, Even racer lol. Seriously the Mass Effect Universe is that rich enough to house that much because its an entire universe in its own right. The thing that could help Bioware is if they employ alot more creative minds that can help them create unique game genres in the Mass Effect Universe worth caring about

I think it is time for this industry to start hiring new writers, no one can make a new game anymore? I mean how many more sequels are we going to see with these games. Its getting ridiculous.

I think it is time for this industry to start hiring new writers, no one can make a new game anymore? I mean how many more sequels are we going to see how these games. Its getting ridiculous.

xscrapzx

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to. 

padaporra

[QUOTE="padaporra"]

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to. 

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="padaporra"]

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to. 

blue_hazy_basic

It doesn't have to be called Mass Effect at all. Give it a new name.blackace

[QUOTE="blackace"]It doesn't have to be called Mass Effect at all. Give it a new name.texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="AmnesiaHaze"]

if they wanted to make a ME4 they should have chosen a less apocalyptic ending in ME3

SecretPolice

[QUOTE="padaporra"]

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to.

PAL360

I loved both, but overall i prefer ME1.

ME1 - better story, better soundtrack (imo), better RPG elements and better exploration (loved exploring uncharted worlds with mako).

ME2 - better graphics, better gameplay and loved some characters.

This ^ right here. This says it all.

I'm glad i'm not the only person who enjoyed the mako exploration sequences. 

Them still existing is a disservice to the videogaming world.Salt_The_Fries

So basically it's new game/storyline in the Mass Effect universe

EPaul

Maybe it's a reboot with a Hipster!Shepard.

I want a war for control of the galaxy between all of Commander Shepard's bastard children.

Making Mass Effect 4 is a disservice.

Let it die before you ruin it completely.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="padaporra"]

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to.

ryangcnx-2

I loved both, but overall i prefer ME1.

ME1 - better story, better soundtrack (imo), better RPG elements and better exploration (loved exploring uncharted worlds with mako).

ME2 - better graphics, better gameplay and loved some characters.

This ^ right here. This says it all.

I'm glad i'm not the only person who enjoyed the mako exploration sequences.

I'm sure we are not alone on this, buddy. Exploration solutions in ME2 and 3 were terrible!

The universe is not destroyed because of the events in ME3. The only difference is no mass relays, a lot more destroyed cities, and no geth. The next story would just not allow jumping around the galaxy like the other ones because of the mass relays.CanYouDiglt

I figured after the dreadful original ending a cool pseudo sequel would be trying to keep the stranded aliens from killing eachother on earth, or maybe a game where you explore the solar system for a way to fix the relay, and only then would they reconnect with the galaxy. But na they pretty much ruined the complexity of any story taking place right after ME3 by putting everything back together in the end.

And no, I don't care about spoilers, it's a ME4 thread and it's been a year.

Well I hope they do something with the Rachni wars.

i can kind of see where he is coming from, but i don't think the WWI and II analogy works. there weren't really any soldiers in WWI that had the impact that shepard did in the ME trilogy. i mean, shepard stops the universe from being destroyed at least 3 times in the main games, probably more in the DLC, and then some of the ME3 ending options would alter everything about the universe. anything set after that time frame would need to do more than gloss over what he/she did.

as for what to do with the series, i think it needs a new technology. the big conceit of the universe, that not only made the fiction possible but also drew me in initially, was the mass effect and all it's potential uses. another mass effect-scale technology would freshen things up again.

that said, i'm wary of bioware management after they caved in to fanboys in ME3. i might wait to see how they handle the inevitable next controversy they run into before i bite on another bioware game.

I just hope the next Xbox gets it as an exclusive or timed exclusive.  Would be great for 720 owners.

i can kind of see where he is coming from, but i don't think the WWI and II analogy works. there weren't really any soldiers in WWI that had the impact that shepard did in the ME trilogy. i mean, shepard stops the universe from being destroyed at least 3 times in the main games, probably more in the DLC, and then some of the ME3 ending options would alter everything about the universe. anything set after that time frame would need to do more than gloss over what he/she did.

as for what to do with the series, i think it needs a new technology. the big conceit of the universe, that not only made the fiction possible but also drew me in initially, was the mass effect and all it's potential uses. another mass effect-scale technology would freshen things up again.

that said, i'm wary of bioware management after they caved in to fanboys in ME3. i might wait to see how they handle the inevitable next controversy they run into before i bite on another bioware game.

LoG-Sacrament

[QUOTE="ryangcnx-2"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

I loved both, but overall i prefer ME1.

ME1 - better story, better soundtrack (imo), better RPG elements and better exploration (loved exploring uncharted worlds with mako).

ME2 - better graphics, better gameplay and loved some characters.

PAL360

This ^ right here. This says it all.

I'm glad i'm not the only person who enjoyed the mako exploration sequences.

I'm sure we are not alone on this, buddy. Exploration solutions in ME2 and 3 were terrible!

[QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]

i can kind of see where he is coming from, but i don't think the WWI and II analogy works. there weren't really any soldiers in WWI that had the impact that shepard did in the ME trilogy. i mean, shepard stops the universe from being destroyed at least 3 times in the main games, probably more in the DLC, and then some of the ME3 ending options would alter everything about the universe. anything set after that time frame would need to do more than gloss over what he/she did.

as for what to do with the series, i think it needs a new technology. the big conceit of the universe, that not only made the fiction possible but also drew me in initially, was the mass effect and all it's potential uses. another mass effect-scale technology would freshen things up again.

that said, i'm wary of bioware management after they caved in to fanboys in ME3. i might wait to see how they handle the inevitable next controversy they run into before i bite on another bioware game.

texasgoldrush

[QUOTE="texasgoldrush"][QUOTE="LoG-Sacrament"]

i can kind of see where he is coming from, but i don't think the WWI and II analogy works. there weren't really any soldiers in WWI that had the impact that shepard did in the ME trilogy. i mean, shepard stops the universe from being destroyed at least 3 times in the main games, probably more in the DLC, and then some of the ME3 ending options would alter everything about the universe. anything set after that time frame would need to do more than gloss over what he/she did.

as for what to do with the series, i think it needs a new technology. the big conceit of the universe, that not only made the fiction possible but also drew me in initially, was the mass effect and all it's potential uses. another mass effect-scale technology would freshen things up again.

that said, i'm wary of bioware management after they caved in to fanboys in ME3. i might wait to see how they handle the inevitable next controversy they run into before i bite on another bioware game.

LoG-Sacrament

Them still existing is a disservice to the videogaming world.Salt_The_Fries

Whatever it is,i'm certainly interested.

Please, use its full title: Mass Effect 4 Kidz.

here is casey hudson hyping the ending as "amazing" and "very definitive." here he comes off as very proud of it as well.

if they really wanted to stick with their guns, they would have left it as it was. some people would have liked it and some wouldn't have, but that would have been fine. some people like the new ending and that's fine too. but honestly, i don't like the idea of going back and changing (or "expanding") a major part of the game because fans complained. and let's say for second that bioware did make changes just to tell off a few people. that's cutting off the nose to spite the face.

i'm actually one of gamers that didn't like the game (not for the ending, but it's a long story. ask if you care). however, i wouldn't want bioware to go back and start throwing stuff in until i shut up. it's because i don't want to order a game. i want to try one. gaming is much more exciting when i could potentially play something that's so good i never knew i wanted it.