Black Ops 2 will be the best Call of Duty game ever. What do you believe in?

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#1 landofcookies
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Now that half of IW's staff left it, I definitely think that Treyarch is the number one Call of Duty developer.

They released Black Ops, and made sure it was the most balanced Call of Duty game ever, nerfing weapons, perks, killstreaks ec. Fabolous! Not to mention the best killstreak in history (Blackbird) and some crazy-ass fun killstreaks (like the car). And the Theatre mode, and most of all, Combat Record! And the currency...

In my opinion, there are so many things Treyarch did right. And Black Ops beats the Modern Warfare series in every single aspect, except for the gameplay.

So now that Treyarch got all this money from Black Ops, taking into account their love for the fans, I expect Black Ops 2 to be the finest game in Call of Duty's existence!

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#2 AdrianWerner
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I agree. I thought Black Ops was indeed the best CoD ever and I will definitly be getting Black Ops 2.

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#3 Theverydeepend
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Kind of hard to say considering we have seen absolutely nothing about this game
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#4 NeonNinja
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So I guess everyone's sick of MW3 already if we're talking about next year's version before E3 even hits.

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#5 Harisemo
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When it comes to MP, BLOPS is certainly up there with CoD 1/UO and MW1. Hopefully BLOPS 2 will be just as good. MW2/MW3 while great games have been a bit disappointing.

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#6 campzor
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mw3 > waw & black ops combined... so half of IW is still better than ALL of incompetentARCH.
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#7 Overlord93
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They released Black Ops, and made sure it was the most balanced Call of Duty game ever, nerfing weapons, perks, killstreaks ec. landofcookies
Massively OP famas + 74u RF + RCXD Hell naw, most unbalanced CoD ever. I aint a fan of the treyarch titles.
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#8 tommyas
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Best CoD ever? Just like MW2 and BO were supposed to be? :P
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#9 silversix_
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CoD talk is so boring, even for SW.
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#10 Moo-Moo-Milk
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If they keep Spec Ops sure. Not just give me Zombies cause thats gettin old. Would appreciate both tho.
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#11 Giant_Panda
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I hated MW2 MP, but Black Ops was fun because it was actually playable. Also the campaign was a nice change of pace. BLOPs > MW.

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#12 CDUB316
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Sorry, but COD 2 is still has the best COD title

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#13 jamejame
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Black Ops was my favorite CoD as well. It has it's issues with gun balance and motion sensors, but it was a blast. I legitimately got 15th prestige and didn'tget bored evenafter doing so. I think I just find the older guns more fun to use, also. I'm not a fanboy of either company but I've liked every Treyarch multiplayer in the series more than every IW iteration. CoD3>CoD2 -- CoD:WaW>CoD4 -- Blops>MW2 -- Blops2>MW3?

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#14 rasengan2552
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Black Ops was not a fun COD to play.

COD4>COD 2> COD > MW3 > BO>MW2

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#15 todd2r
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i thought BO was pretty good, definitely better than MW2. My final judgement is still out on MW3. i really enjoy Kill Confirmed, and the strike packages, but, some crap is still way too overpowered, and noob tube has come back in a big way and its kind of annoying. I enjoyed Black Ops maps a lot though. MW3 maps are kinda average for me at the moment.

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#16 OfficerLeach_
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I think black ops 2 will be better then MW3...I decided not to buy MW3 I just got all the trophies..to be honest I might not get another COD untill the new systems come out because im burnt out on them.

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#17 GTSaiyanjin2
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Well treyarch is awesome, so you can expect something good.

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#18 Peredith
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BO 1 was terrible. COD4 is, and will always be the best COD. :P

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#19 67gt500
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I realize that every time Activision releases a CoD game they make another Trillion dollars and lay another Golden egg, but this business of crapping one out every year has to stop...
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#20 bbkkristian
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It wasn't the in game things that made Black Ops great. It was Combat Training and splitscreen online mulitplayer. I've heard that MW3 doesn't have neither of those, which really makes me upset.
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#21 landofcookies
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[QUOTE="landofcookies"]They released Black Ops, and made sure it was the most balanced Call of Duty game ever, nerfing weapons, perks, killstreaks ec. Overlord93
Massively OP famas + 74u RF + RCXD Hell naw, most unbalanced CoD ever. I aint a fan of the treyarch titles.

RCXD was never that unbalanced, to begin with.

Famas and 74u were both nerfed. :) Any more excuses?

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#22 SPYDER0416
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Let me put it this way:

Treyarch has been on the up with their last few Call of Duty games, and they've been separating themselves from IW's games as well. Black Ops was their best and highest selling CoD game ever, and I personally enjoyed it more then any of their other efforts or MW3. IW also isn't the same, MW3 was good, but it was probably the worst IW made CoD yet, despite its sales, and if anyone can bring changes to the series now, its Treyarch, because at least they had the guts to move to a different setting with a lot of changes in narrative presentation and multiplayer balance and mechanics.

I wouldn't call it the best ever though, not by a long shot. Call of Duty 4 was a revolution, the game that made modern day shooters the new WWII shooters in its sheer popularity and critical acclaim. No matter what, I don't see another Call of Duty game eclipsing that until at least the next generation, if at all.

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#23 incuensuocha
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Every single next COD game is declare the best ever by someone. You know someone will one day say "COD MW 47 will be the best one everrrrr!!!"
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#24 landofcookies
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Let me put it this way:

Treyarch has been on the up with their last few Call of Duty games, and they've been separating themselves from IW's games as well. Black Ops was their best and highest selling CoD game ever, and I personally enjoyed it more then any of their other efforts or MW3. IW also isn't the same, MW3 was good, but it was probably the worst IW made CoD yet, despite its sales, and if anyone can bring changes to the series now, its Treyarch, because at least they had the guts to move to a different setting with a lot of changes in narrative presentation and multiplayer balance and mechanics.

I wouldn't call it the best ever though, not by a long shot. Call of Duty 4 was a revolution, the game that made modern day shooters the new WWII shooters in its sheer popularity and critical acclaim. No matter what, I don't see another Call of Duty game eclipsing that until at least the next generation, if at all.

SPYDER0416

Yes, this is the point with the thread. Treyarch will bring the series to new heights.

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#25 burgeg
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It wasn't the in game things that made Black Ops great. It was Combat Training and splitscreen online mulitplayer. I've heard that MW3 doesn't have neither of those, which really makes me upset.bbkkristian
Hold on. Hold on a freaking second. MW3 doesn't have split screen online mp? You've got to be kidding me. Somebody clear this up for me. No way in hell this can be true.

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#26 landofcookies
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[QUOTE="bbkkristian"]It wasn't the in game things that made Black Ops great. It was Combat Training and splitscreen online mulitplayer. I've heard that MW3 doesn't have neither of those, which really makes me upset.burgeg

Hold on. Hold on a freaking second. MW3 doesn't have split screen online mp? You've got to be kidding me. Somebody clear this up for me. No way in hell this can be true.

MW3 does have split screen online.

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#27 timmy00
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Are you going to do this forever?

I enjoyed Black Ops. It was one of the more balanced CoD game out there. idk if I would buy a BO2 though.

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#28 Xeogua
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Every COD ever released is always the best COD ever. And I don't even care for COD much anymore, and this makes me want to play BO, and get MW3. :/

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#29 vashkey
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If Black Ops 2 is just another game that rides on the success of CoD4, like the orignal Black Ops, then no.
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#30 landofcookies
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If Black Ops 2 is just another game that rides on the success of CoD4, like the orignal Black Ops, then no.vashkey

Black Ops certainly didn't ride on the success of CoD4... What are you talking about?

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#31 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"]If Black Ops 2 is just another game that rides on the success of CoD4, like the orignal Black Ops, then no.landofcookies

Black Ops certainly didn't ride on the success of CoD4... What are you talking about?

That in terms of gameplay there were no significant changes made to the formula that CoD4 created. There hasn't been significant change since CoD4. Everything has just be minor alterations, rearrangements or extensions of already existing concepts and ideas introduced in CoD4.
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#32 Overlord93
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[QUOTE="Overlord93"][QUOTE="landofcookies"]They released Black Ops, and made sure it was the most balanced Call of Duty game ever, nerfing weapons, perks, killstreaks ec. landofcookies

Massively OP famas + 74u RF + RCXD Hell naw, most unbalanced CoD ever. I aint a fan of the treyarch titles.

RCXD was never that unbalanced, to begin with.

Famas and 74u were both nerfed. :) Any more excuses?

Despite the nerf, both guns were still OP. And RCXD was worse than OMA noob tubes in MW2.
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#33 landofcookies
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[QUOTE="landofcookies"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"]If Black Ops 2 is just another game that rides on the success of CoD4, like the orignal Black Ops, then no.vashkey

Black Ops certainly didn't ride on the success of CoD4... What are you talking about?

That in terms of gameplay there were no significant changes made to the formula that CoD4 created. There hasn't been significant change since CoD4. Everything has just be minor alterations, rearrangements or extensions of already existing concepts and ideas introduced in CoD4.

It's because it's what defines Call of Duty. If they were to change it, it would not be CoD anymore.

But Black Ops introduced a lot of new things to the series.

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#34 vashkey
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[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="landofcookies"]

Black Ops certainly didn't ride on the success of CoD4... What are you talking about?

landofcookies

That in terms of gameplay there were no significant changes made to the formula that CoD4 created. There hasn't been significant change since CoD4. Everything has just be minor alterations, rearrangements or extensions of already existing concepts and ideas introduced in CoD4.

It's because it's what defines Call of Duty. If they were to change it, it would not be CoD anymore.

But Black Ops introduced a lot of new things to the series.

CoD was pretty different than what it is not before CoD4. Why was it okay to make signifiant improvement before but not now? Black Ops introduced alot of unimportant things that really didn't improve the game much.
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#35 landofcookies
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[QUOTE="landofcookies"]

[QUOTE="Overlord93"] Massively OP famas + 74u RF + RCXD Hell naw, most unbalanced CoD ever. I aint a fan of the treyarch titles.Overlord93

RCXD was never that unbalanced, to begin with.

Famas and 74u were both nerfed. :) Any more excuses?

Despite the nerf, both guns were still OP. And RCXD was worse than OMA noob tubes in MW2.

Lol, you're really having fun right now!

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#36 el3m2tigre
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One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

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#37 finalstar2007
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We will just have to wait and see

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#38 rasengan2552
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One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

el3m2tigre
no lol ... Treyarch distracts people with a whole bunch of useless crap that isn't needed. If it wasn't for the bad maps, MW3 would be a lot more fun than Black Ops.
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#39 finalstar2007
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One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

el3m2tigre

Wow we have diffrent opinions :P.. i think IW should take over CoD, Mw3 far better than black ops

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#40 landofcookies
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

rasengan2552

no lol ... Treyarch distracts people with a whole bunch of useless crap that isn't needed. If it wasn't for the bad maps, MW3 would be a lot more fun than Black Ops.

Useless crap? Like what?

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#41 Kevz0
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I doubt it will be better than CoD 1,2 and 4, Treyarch is a terrible dev.

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#42 landofcookies
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One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

el3m2tigre

MW3 feels quite different from the rest of the MW games, it feels to me. Black Ops was a spectacular game, and Treyarch didn't have the money from WaW, yet managed to pull it off!

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#43 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Don't like BO online. MW3 is much better

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#44 Mostly_Normal
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That would reqiure the game to be better than COD 1, 2, and 4, which is something I highly doubt. Black Ops 1 was only slightly better than MW2, and that isn't saying much.

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#45 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

landofcookies

MW3 feels quite different from the rest of the MW games, it feels to me. Black Ops was a spectacular game, and Treyarch didn't have the money from WaW, yet managed to pull it off!

In my experience, the gameplay was much slower compared to COD4 and MW2.

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#46 vashkey
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

landofcookies

MW3 feels quite different from the rest of the MW games, it feels to me. Black Ops was a spectacular game, and Treyarch didn't have the money from WaW, yet managed to pull it off!

What do you mean they have money from WaW?
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Sorry, but COD 2 is still has the best COD title

CDUB316
agreed, and what is your in-game name in COD2? i played it to death, i prolly know you lol.
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[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

One thing's for sure, Black Ops is miles better than the steaming pile of dog crap that is MW3. Infinity Ward has been making COD worse and worse. Treyarch should take over COD completely.

landofcookies

no lol ... Treyarch distracts people with a whole bunch of useless crap that isn't needed. If it wasn't for the bad maps, MW3 would be a lot more fun than Black Ops.

Useless crap? Like what?

the emblem crap, the face customization, title layers etc.... to the casuals eye it looks like a lot of added content, when its just filler.
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#49 landofcookies
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That would reqiure the game to be better than COD 1, 2, and 4, which is something I highly doubt. Black Ops 1 was only slightly better than MW2, and that isn't saying much.

Mostly_Normal

Black Ops' gameplay was only slower than Modern Warfare's, which made it a big more boring to play. But still, the new features introduced to the series were very welcoming.

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#50 landofcookies
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[QUOTE="landofcookies"]

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"] no lol ... Treyarch distracts people with a whole bunch of useless crap that isn't needed. If it wasn't for the bad maps, MW3 would be a lot more fun than Black Ops.rasengan2552

Useless crap? Like what?

the emblem crap, the face customization, title layers etc.... to the casuals eye it looks like a lot of added content, when its just filler.

That's not crap. It's for more of a personal look/style of play. Certainly not unnecessary.

Combat record was still the best add to the series, imo.