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CoD4, 5, and Blops were predictable cliche stories.. Where the Americans and British has to save the world from Communist and Arab nationalists... I wouldn't be as brutal if it were not for the fact that the stories seem to be ripped directly from a Tom Clancy novel.sSubZerOowell just saying cod 5 wasnt against commis or arab, and well obviosly its predictable because its story is ww2 and you cant change thet story if youre doing ww2.
I admit black ops has the best COD plot by far. but its still as generic and predictable as uncharted's 2 like I knew reznov was fake since I was in the rat tunnel. oh and schafer was a nazi but he was a good nazi, he murdered his company because they were going to take the cintamani stone to hitler and that would have turned him into the master of the world, schafer didnt wanted that and killed the guys, its something you didnt got. and I did questioned chloes loyalty a lot, and I actually thought elena was going to die, nowadays games are like that, a lot of main characters die.lightleggy
that was a suprise to me ill admit
I felt the same, kept wondering if there was a catch to chloe
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]CoD4, 5, and Blops were predictable cliche stories.. Where the Americans and British has to save the world from Communist and Arab nationalists... I wouldn't be as brutal if it were not for the fact that the stories seem to be ripped directly from a Tom Clancy novel.juan530well just saying cod 5 wasnt against commis or arab, and well obviosly its predictable because its story is ww2 and you cant change thet story if youre doing ww2.
By CoD 5 I was talking about MW2.. Sorry.. I personally have never played WaW.
No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
tryagainlater
[QUOTE="tryagainlater"]But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations. then tell me what makes a character likeable? drake has a personality and its shown in cutscenes and dialogues.No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
T1GERBLOOD
[QUOTE="tryagainlater"]But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.Lazarevic was power hungry , like all the villains in Black Ops. Either you're blind or you think BO is the best game ever.No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
T1GERBLOOD
[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"][QUOTE="tryagainlater"]But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations. then tell me what makes a character likeable? drake has a personality and its shown in cutscenes and dialogues. I just didn't find his jokes funny. I think that characters like Solid Snake who go for the badass approach are way betterNo one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
lightleggy
[QUOTE="lightleggy"]I admit black ops has the best COD plot by far. but its still as generic and predictable as uncharted's 2 like I knew reznov was fake since I was in the rat tunnel. oh and schafer was a nazi but he was a good nazi, he murdered his company because they were going to take the cintamani stone to hitler and that would have turned him into the master of the world, schafer didnt wanted that and killed the guys, its something you didnt got. and I did questioned chloes loyalty a lot, and I actually thought elena was going to die, nowadays games are like that, a lot of main characters die.eboyishere
that was a suprise to me ill admit
I felt the same, kept wondering if there was a catch to chloe
it was just way too obvious...I mean the guy clearly died during the vorkuta scape, soviets were not known for taking prisoners who were trying to escape. plus the guy shows up at vietnam, I rescue him, ok thats believable, but the guy stays in my squad? why? did he enlisted for the army or something? and the other characters never mention him, not once, and when they spoke to me they didnt said anything, like woods would be "bowman, go with me, mason you go that way "he didnt said "hey mason and reznov, go that way!"[QUOTE="tryagainlater"]But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
T1GERBLOOD
do you think CoD does it better? the characters in each game lack personality
No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
tryagainlater
I liked the plot of uncharted 2 a lot...
But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.Lazarevic was power hungry , like all the villains in Black Ops. Either you're blind or you think BO is the best game ever. But that doesn't explain how he found out about Shambala or how he got his military power. In Black Ops it tells you that power got to Dragovichs head after Russia won the war and how he started to agree with the Nazi's in some aspects. They tried too hard to make Lazaravich seem evil I laughed when he started going on about how Hitler and Atila the Hun were great men. Dragovich on the other hand is always calm throughout the game and it makes him seem way more evil.[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"][QUOTE="tryagainlater"]
No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
TrapJak
[QUOTE="TrapJak"]Lazarevic was power hungry , like all the villains in Black Ops. Either you're blind or you think BO is the best game ever. But that doesn't explain how he found out about Shambala or how he got his military power. In Black Ops it tells you that power got to Dragovichs head after Russia won the war and how he started to agree with the Nazi's in some aspects. They tried too hard to make Lazaravich seem evil I laughed when he started going on about how Hitler and Atila the Hun were great men. Dragovich on the other hand is always calm throughout the game and it makes him seem way more evil.Lazarevic didnt find Shambhala, Drake did by looking up research on Marco Polo's trail. Lazarevic basically stole Drake's moment. And he got in power by doing what other villains would do, kill anyone in their way. Dragovich was just doing it to do it. There was no "I want to take over the world". He was just "I want power. That's it" And he failed in succeeding. At least Lazarevich gained the power he wanted.(Though Drake still stopped him).[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"] But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.T1GERBLOOD
[QUOTE="tryagainlater"]But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
T1GERBLOOD
I agree, although I don't think the characters are bad. They're just really cookie cutter.
But that doesn't explain how he found out about Shambala or how he got his military power. In Black Ops it tells you that power got to Dragovichs head after Russia won the war and how he started to agree with the Nazi's in some aspects. They tried too hard to make Lazaravich seem evil I laughed when he started going on about how Hitler and Atila the Hun were great men. Dragovich on the other hand is always calm throughout the game and it makes him seem way more evil.Lazarevic didnt find Shambhala, Drake did by looking up research on Marco Polo's trail. Lazarevic basically stole Drake's moment. And he got in power by doing what other villains would do, kill anyone in their way. Dragovich was just doing it to do it. There was no "I want to take over the world". He was just "I want power. That's it" And he failed in succeeding. At least Lazarevich gained the power he wanted.(Though Drake still stopped him). Oh yes I remember now it started with Marco Polo. Lazaravich had an intrest in the ships though and that wasn't explained very well. It didn't say how he got his military force behind him though or why he was so evil. Dragovich was doing it because his country was after becoming one of the superpowers in the world and he wanted it to become the only superpower in the world. The Russian military defeated the Germans in World War 2 and he was one of the generals behind it. Of course the power and confidence would go to his head.[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"][QUOTE="TrapJak"]Lazarevic was power hungry , like all the villains in Black Ops. Either you're blind or you think BO is the best game ever.
TrapJak
While Blops had a better plot than most other CoD games, it was still horrible. The pacing was absolutely awful; constantly throwing you into the action. It felt like the climax the entire way through. The plot twist near the end was okay though.
Uncharted 2 does not have the best story. But it has fantastic characters and great storytelling (different to story).
[QUOTE="TrapJak"]Lazarevic didnt find Shambhala, Drake did by looking up research on Marco Polo's trail. Lazarevic basically stole Drake's moment. And he got in power by doing what other villains would do, kill anyone in their way. Dragovich was just doing it to do it. There was no "I want to take over the world". He was just "I want power. That's it" And he failed in succeeding. At least Lazarevich gained the power he wanted.(Though Drake still stopped him). Oh yes I remember now it started with Marco Polo. Lazaravich had an intrest in the ships though and that wasn't explained very well. It didn't say how he got his military force behind him though or why he was so evil. Dragovich was doing it because his country was after becoming one of the superpowers in the world and he wanted it to become the only superpower in the world. The Russian military defeated the Germans in World War 2 and he was one of the generals behind it. Of course the power and confidence would go to his head.Chloe explained how he paid for Marco Polo's journals and been after the ship for years. And like I said, how do Dictators get into power? Family , resources, and full frontal wars can provide anyone an army.[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"] But that doesn't explain how he found out about Shambala or how he got his military power. In Black Ops it tells you that power got to Dragovichs head after Russia won the war and how he started to agree with the Nazi's in some aspects. They tried too hard to make Lazaravich seem evil I laughed when he started going on about how Hitler and Atila the Hun were great men. Dragovich on the other hand is always calm throughout the game and it makes him seem way more evil.T1GERBLOOD
And your speculation about Dragovich can be directly applied to Lazarevic. Power goes to people's heads, Dragovich and Lazarevic are nearly the same people, just different designs and one didnt have to fight a gorilla with a sawn off shotgun.
Uncharted has never been about the plot. Its about the presentation of the plot and the effort put into digital acting, so the characters are actually performed realistically and they feel real.
COD on the other hand is about taking the most cliche action movie plot elements possible and trying to weave a passable qualification of a story.
[QUOTE="tryagainlater"]But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.I honestly agree with you wholeheartedly. Pretty much what I've been trying to say about the Uncharted universe since its been praised to hell and back on its characters alone.No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
T1GERBLOOD
But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.I honestly agree with you wholeheartedly. Pretty much what I've been trying to say about the Uncharted universe since its been praised to hell and back on its characters alone.But I likeDrake due to his charm and his attitude towards the enemies. But everyone knows Victor "GODDAMN" Sullivan is the best character in gaming, its non debatable.[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"][QUOTE="tryagainlater"]
No one praises Uncharted 2's plot. Not one person in the universe has ever done that. They praise the characters and the presentation of the story but everyone says the plot is just decent.
jamejame
I honestly agree with you wholeheartedly. Pretty much what I've been trying to say about the Uncharted universe since its been praised to hell and back on its characters alone.But I likeDrake due to his charm and his attitude towards the enemies. But everyone knows Victor "GODDAMN" Sullivan is the best character in gaming, its non debatable.[QUOTE="jamejame"]
[QUOTE="T1GERBLOOD"] But the characters were really, really bad. They don't develop at all through the game and I personally found Drake extremely unlikeable. Flynn and Lazaravich could also be the two worst villains I have ever seen in a game. I think everyone gets good characters mixed up with excellent voice acting and superb animations.TrapJak
IDK, I find him to be just as cookie cutter as any other Uncharted character. There are tons of Phoenix Wright characters that I think are way more interesting or likeable than Sullivan. My favorite character this gen is probably Phoenix Wright's sidekick Maya.
But I likeDrake due to his charm and his attitude towards the enemies. But everyone knows Victor "GODDAMN" Sullivan is the best character in gaming, its non debatable.[QUOTE="TrapJak"]
[QUOTE="jamejame"]I honestly agree with you wholeheartedly. Pretty much what I've been trying to say about the Uncharted universe since its been praised to hell and back on its characters alone.
GreySeal9
IDK, I find him to be just as cookie cutter as any other Uncharted character. There are tons of Phoenix Wright characters that I think are way more interesting or likeable than Sullivan. My favorite character this gen is probably Phoenix Wright's sidekick Maya.
Do any of the Phoenix Wright characters have a mustache as godly as Sully's?I thought not! Point is proven!
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
[QUOTE="TrapJak"]But I likeDrake due to his charm and his attitude towards the enemies. But everyone knows Victor "GODDAMN" Sullivan is the best character in gaming, its non debatable.
TrapJak
IDK, I find him to be just as cookie cutter as any other Uncharted character. There are tons of Phoenix Wright characters that I think are way more interesting or likeable than Sullivan. My favorite character this gen is probably Phoenix Wright's sidekick Maya.
Do any of the Phoenix Wright characters have a mustache as godly as Sully's?I thought not! Point is proven!
But does Sully have a metallic mask?
Didn't think so.
Do any of the Phoenix Wright characters have a mustache as godly as Sully's?[QUOTE="TrapJak"]
[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]
IDK, I find him to be just as cookie cutter as any other Uncharted character. There are tons of Phoenix Wright characters that I think are way more interesting or likeable than Sullivan. My favorite character this gen is probably Phoenix Wright's sidekick Maya.
GreySeal9
I thought not! Point is proven!
But does Sully have a metallic mask?
Didn't think so.
Pshh, Fake Mask. I can tell its manufactured.Sully's Mustache is a 100% man-made. Mustache >Mask
Not exactly sure why you'd want to argue between those two. The stories in those two games are just excuses for the characters to be in places where things which look cool are so that said cool looking things can explode.
I actually liked Black Ops' story. That said, I liked Uncharted 2's more.UCF_KnightI didn't not because it wasn't good I just didn't comprehend it atleast not the end anyway. The only thing I like about black ops is woods, he is a better character to me then nathan drake but thats about it.
The story in Black Ops is okay, I found it too cliche and all over the place. CoD 4 still has the best story in the CoD series (that's not saying much though). It doesn't even come close to Uncharted 2's story though, it's just so much better, more engaging, and entertaining.
Not exactly sure why you'd want to argue between those two. The stories in those two games are just excuses for the characters to be in places where things which look cool are so that said cool looking things can explode.
MetroidPrimePwn
Pretty much, though UC2 does have some believable voice acting.
Black Ops campaign tried to be clever when in reality is was just a military version of Fight Club or A Beautiful Mind. The question remains though, when Viktor Reznov killed people when he was accompanying you, since he actually didn't exist, how did those soldiers actually die?
Would you guys care to explain how Uncharted's story was good ?? pleaseT1GERBLOOD
It was a B-Movie Summer Action Flick.
That's why.
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