Black Ops Will Still Out Sell Reach, the Irony

Recent post thread today showd, this link http://kotaku.com/5583710/lawsuit-activision-created-modern-warfare-police-state

Really? i think at this point activision is fairly desperate for more money if though they are the largest publisher. they expensive dlc and the subscription fee idea is just going a bit far. they are corrupted and really are rushing out call of duty titles. at this point they could release call of duty: space battles, and it would still sell enormous amounts

black ops is going to sell amazingly well. outselling halo reach. the fanbase for call of duty seems to a bit bias and blind to these types of things and will be willing to pay a subcription fee and 15 dollars for dlc.

halo reach is clearly going to be one of the top games of the year. and really it deserves to sell more. the way bungie is to the fanbase is alot more apealing. the call of duty fanbase is largely "uneducated" if you will and does not give a rats ass about campaign lengths and reviews. they will play the crap out of last years multiplayer, just on different maps with differnt guns and perks.

What do you think? Which is will sell more? which will score better?(also take into acount back ops is a multi platt

say if you think they will have low ratings and what they will sell

Reach will probably be the better game, but how can you compare a game on 3 systems to a game on 1 for sales :?

Reach will probably be the better game, but how can you compare a game on 3 systems to a game on 1 for sales :?

Dead-Memories

Where's the irony?

The last three CoD games outsold all the Halo games. They also were all on 3 or more systems.

Fans of CoD will pay for a sub fee I'm sure. I wouldn't say it's out of bias, ignorance, or stupidity, but because they like CoD! I pay for stuff that I like all the time!!!Should not be a surprise when other people do it too.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

Reach will probably be the better game, but how can you compare a game on 3 systems to a game on 1 for sales :?

nintend-man86

Um what? What's the point of this thread? What's so ironic? Are you one of those stupid hipsters who thinks everything is ironic? Grrrr I hate hipsters :evil:!!!!!

I pre-ordered Reach today and I probably won't ever get the new CoD... that's all I can say about this...

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or so game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

JordanizPro

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

VideoGameGuy

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

nintend-man86

Um what? What's the point of this thread? What's so ironic? Are you one of those stupid hipsters who thinks everything is ironic? Grrrr I hate hipsters :evil:!!!!!

I pre-ordered Reach today and I probably won't ever get the new CoD... that's all I can say about this...

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

[QUOTE="nintend-man86"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

VideoGameGuy

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

JordanizPro

I guess you didn't get the memo. Call of Duty is far bigger than Halo ever was.

Reach will sell more on 360, CoD will sell more overall.

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

EliteKitteh

I guess you didn't get the memo. Call of Duty is far bigger than Halo ever was.

Where's the irony?

The last three CoD games outsold all the Halo games. They also were all on 3 or more systems.

Fans of CoD will pay for a sub fee I'm sure. I wouldn't say it's out of bias, ignorance, or stupidity, but because they like CoD! I pay for stuff that I like all the time!!!Should not be a surprise when other people do it too.

Raymundo_Manuel

Exactly.

Recent post thread today showd, this link http://kotaku.com/5583710/lawsuit-activision-created-modern-warfare-police-state

Really? i think at this point activision is fairly desperate for more money if though they are the largest publisher. they expensive dlc and the subscription fee idea is just going a bit far. they are corrupted and really are rushing out call of duty titles. at this point they could release call of duty: space battles, and it would still sell enormous amounts

black ops is going to sell amazingly well. outselling halo reach. the fanbase for call of duty seems to a bit bias and blind to these types of things and will be willing to pay a subcription fee and 15 dollars for dlc.

halo reach is clearly going to be one of the top games of the year. and really it deserves to sell more. the way bungie is to the fanbase is alot more apealing. the call of duty fanbase is largely "uneducated" if you will and does not give a rats ass about campaign lengths and reviews. they will play the crap out of last years multiplayer, just on different maps with differnt guns and perks.

What do you think? Which is will sell more? which will score better?(also take into acount back ops is a multi platt

say if you think they will have low ratings and what they will sell

nintend-man86

Have you ever considered that that's because they love CoD? There's really no need for the negative generalizations.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

Reach will probably be the better game, but how can you compare a game on 3 systems to a game on 1 for sales :?

nintend-man86

[QUOTE="nintend-man86"]

Recent post thread today showd, this link http://kotaku.com/5583710/lawsuit-activision-created-modern-warfare-police-state

Really? i think at this point activision is fairly desperate for more money if though they are the largest publisher. they expensive dlc and the subscription fee idea is just going a bit far. they are corrupted and really are rushing out call of duty titles. at this point they could release call of duty: space battles, and it would still sell enormous amounts

black ops is going to sell amazingly well. outselling halo reach. the fanbase for call of duty seems to a bit bias and blind to these types of things and will be willing to pay a subcription fee and 15 dollars for dlc.

halo reach is clearly going to be one of the top games of the year. and really it deserves to sell more. the way bungie is to the fanbase is alot more apealing. the call of duty fanbase is largely "uneducated" if you will and does not give a rats ass about campaign lengths and reviews. they will play the crap out of last years multiplayer, just on different maps with differnt guns and perks.

What do you think? Which is will sell more? which will score better?(also take into acount back ops is a multi platt

say if you think they will have low ratings and what they will sell

Have you ever considered that that's because they love CoD?

also, if there was no new call of duty being released, the same amount of people would still be playing modernwarfare 2 regardless. it would be alot nicer if they released cheaper dlc instead of having a brand new game

[QUOTE="nintend-man86"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"]

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

VideoGameGuy

Uh, no. Halo is hardly the first series with a powerful brand.

Also, how do you what purchases are "blind" and which ones or not? Most people buy things because those things looking appealing to them for whatever reason or it's a game in a series that they love or they heard great things about it. How is that kind of purchases anymore blind than most purchases?

I swear. Halo fans and COD fans have to deal with more smug condescending attitudes than any other videogame fanbase.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="nintend-man86"]

Recent post thread today showd, this link http://kotaku.com/5583710/lawsuit-activision-created-modern-warfare-police-state

Really? i think at this point activision is fairly desperate for more money if though they are the largest publisher. they expensive dlc and the subscription fee idea is just going a bit far. they are corrupted and really are rushing out call of duty titles. at this point they could release call of duty: space battles, and it would still sell enormous amounts

black ops is going to sell amazingly well. outselling halo reach. the fanbase for call of duty seems to a bit bias and blind to these types of things and will be willing to pay a subcription fee and 15 dollars for dlc.

halo reach is clearly going to be one of the top games of the year. and really it deserves to sell more. the way bungie is to the fanbase is alot more apealing. the call of duty fanbase is largely "uneducated" if you will and does not give a rats ass about campaign lengths and reviews. they will play the crap out of last years multiplayer, just on different maps with differnt guns and perks.

What do you think? Which is will sell more? which will score better?(also take into acount back ops is a multi platt

say if you think they will have low ratings and what they will sell

nintend-man86

Have you ever considered that that's because they love CoD?

There's quite a difference between enjoying CoD and loving it.

I'm not saying that Activision's business practices are all hunky dorey. I'm just saying that calling CoD fans uneducated is an unwarranted generalization.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="nintend-man86"] im not calling the critics uneducated. im saying some people on call of duty dont really care about game reviews and are willing to spen more money on unnecessary thingsGreySeal9

Uh, no. Halo is hardly the first series with a powerful brand.

Also, how do you what purchases are "blind" and which ones or not? Most people buy things because those things looking appealing to them for whatever reason or it's a game in a series that they love or they heard great things about it. How is that kind of purchases anymore blind than most purchases?

I swear. Halo fans and COD fans have to deal with more smug condescending attitudes than any other videogame fanbase.

i agree with on most just love it, but all im saying is that activisions release tacticts and sales are abit maniacal for me to support them

Your point? Black Ops will OutsellHalo Reacheither way. Not only that but Reach will outsell Killzone 3. SO whats the point? Call Of Duty franchise is probably the most known video game around, even women know what we are talking about.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] and millions of people will buy Halo cause it says "halo" it's like you're trying to say that Halo won't sell millions on name alone but COD will. I think Halo invented the blind purchase.VideoGameGuy

Uh, no. Halo is hardly the first series with a powerful brand.

Also, how do you what purchases are "blind" and which ones or not? Most people buy things because those things looking appealing to them for whatever reason or it's a game in a series that they love or they heard great things about it. How is that kind of purchases anymore blind than most purchases?

I swear. Halo fans and COD fans have to deal with more smug condescending attitudes than any other videogame fanbase.

If they know what they are going to get, that's not a blind purchase.

And like I said, Halo was not the first series out there with a powerful brand.

It seems that you didn't really mean your comment to come off as smug or condescending, but my statement still stands in a general sense.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Uh, no. Halo is hardly the first series with a powerful brand.

Also, how do you what purchases are "blind" and which ones or not? Most people buy things because those things looking appealing to them for whatever reason or it's a game in a series that they love or they heard great things about it. How is that kind of purchases anymore blind than most purchases?

I swear. Halo fans and COD fans have to deal with more smug condescending attitudes than any other videogame fanbase.

If they know what they are going to get, that's not a blind purchase.

And like I said, Halo was not the first series out there with a powerful brand.

It seems that you didn't really mean your comment to come off as smug or condescending, but my statement still stands in a general sense.

Um what? What's the point of this thread? What's so ironic? Are you one of those stupid hipsters who thinks everything is ironic? Grrrr I hate hipsters :evil:!!!!!

I pre-ordered Reach today and I probably won't ever get the new CoD... that's all I can say about this...

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

EliteKitteh

I guess you didn't get the memo. Call of Duty is far bigger than Halo ever was.

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

I wouldn't be surprised if Black Ops scores a 7.0. It will still sell, but I don't think it will be as popular as past COD games.

All this hate for COD and yet every year it's one of the highest rated games and wins many awards, talk about a disconnect..and i suppose you're calling the many dozens or so game critics "uneducated" too. As if you need half a brain to enjoy Halo, geeesh people.

VideoGameGuy

Your point? Black Ops will OutsellHalo Reacheither way. Not only that but Reach will outsell Killzone 3. SO whats the point? Call Of Duty franchise is probably the most known video game around, even women know what we are talking about.

MrFamBoyLOL

reach will get higher ratings and but not sell as much since it´s just in one platform

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

Reach will probably be the better game, but how can you compare a game on 3 systems to a game on 1 for sales :?

nintend-man86

[QUOTE="nintend-man86"][QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

Reach will probably be the better game, but how can you compare a game on 3 systems to a game on 1 for sales :?

BodyElite

12 million copies? Where did you pull that number out of? Do you have a link?

Wiki says it has sold 11 million copies.

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

[QUOTE="JordanizPro"]

This shouldnt even be a conversation.Halo Reach will be no doubt be one of the biggest game launches ever and you want to put it up against Black Ops :?

Ringx55

I guess you didn't get the memo. Call of Duty is far bigger than Halo ever was.

[QUOTE="BodyElite"][QUOTE="nintend-man86"] on the 360 platformDragonfireXZ95

12 million copies? Where did you pull that number out of? Do you have a link?

Wiki says it has sold 11 million copies.

We haven't seen MS's Marketing Push yet.

When it comes, seriously, it's going to be big....

(Apparently they are going to market this game even more than Halo 3)