Blizzard: 1.2 BILLION for 2007

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#1 mismajor99
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Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

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#2 dgsag
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Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

mismajor99

PC Gaming dead or actually outpacing console gaming?

Watch out, consoleites. This is the year of the Lich King, Starcraft 2, Spore and many others....

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#3 Sir_BIGnuts
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

dgsag

PC Gaming dead or actually outpacing console gaming?

Watch out, consoleites. This is the year of the Lich King, Starcraft 2, Spore and many others....

/agree

15 x 12 x 6,500,000 = 1,170,000,000 Just WoW

I say 6.5m because that's probably about the amount of people that are paying every month. I know i myslef take 2-4 month hiatuses every once in a while. It's actually a lot less becuase you also have to account for all the BC sales

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#4 usmcjdk6
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When you've got 7-8 million people paying $15, that's pretty smashtastic.
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#5 agentfred
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Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

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#6 warmaster670
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Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

agentfred

pc sales, alot of that moeny is likely from subscriptions, not sales

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#7 _KenKittyragi_
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Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

agentfred

NPD got pwned :P

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#8 TeamR
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Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

agentfred

Just to be fair, the 1.2 billion is blizzard's overall revenue. Not just the money it made from WoW.

But yeah, NPD is useless for judging pc sales

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#9 haris12121212
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

_KenKittyragi_

NPD got pwned :P

Not really, NPD doesn't include the monthly fee for WoW. They just include the sales. World of Warcraft's subscriptions monthly gives millions and millions to Blizzard.
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#10 kryloc
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They only judge retail sales. So much of blizzards revenue comes from monthly subcriptions.

Question is, where would PC gaming be with WoW and Blizzard. What if MS, Sony, or EA's stepped up to the billion dollar plate and bought them instead of Vivendi?

Will Bioware pay off for EA like Guitar Hero and Blizzard have paid off for their suitors(which are now merging)

P.S. WoW is digital crack, where's Jack Thompson now?

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#11 TDLlama
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Oddly enough, there's also 1.2 billion WoW subscribers.

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#12 kryloc
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Oddly enough, there's also 1.2 billion WoW subscribers.

TDLlama

More like 10 million unique subcribers since launch.

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#13 CrimsonBlade360
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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

dgsag

PC Gaming dead or actually outpacing console gaming?

Watch out, consoleites. This is the year of the Lich King, Starcraft 2, Spore and many others....

Oh the Lich king, i might have to go back to playing WoW
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

TeamR

Just to be fair, the 1.2 billion is blizzard's overall revenue. Not just the money it made from WoW.

But yeah, NPD is useless for judging pc sales

What non-warcraft games did blizzard release this year? lol trust me this is all wow cash

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#15 Gunraidan
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Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

agentfred

NPD is only for North America where PC Gaming = Xbox Gaming in Japan.

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#16 agentfred
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[QUOTE="_KenKittyragi_"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

haris12121212

NPD got pwned :P

Not really, NPD doesn't include the monthly fee for WoW. They just include the sales. World of Warcraft's subscriptions monthly gives millions and millions to Blizzard.

That seems like a pretty silly way of measuring revenue don't you think?

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[QUOTE="TeamR"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

strahd01

Just to be fair, the 1.2 billion is blizzard's overall revenue. Not just the money it made from WoW.

But yeah, NPD is useless for judging pc sales

What non-warcraft games did blizzard release this year? lol trust me this is all wow cash

Its not only WOW, other Blizzard games still sell a huge amount even today....every Blizzard game is still sold in nearly every gaming related store..Hell, Before WOW came out, Blizzard's revenue was alreaedy 750 million...

But I do think its kind of funny, that Blizzard's revenue alone surpassed NPD PC retail numbers...I think this is good proof that these numbers are fairly worthless when it comes to PC gaming.

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#18 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="strahd01"][QUOTE="TeamR"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

cobrax25

Just to be fair, the 1.2 billion is blizzard's overall revenue. Not just the money it made from WoW.

But yeah, NPD is useless for judging pc sales

What non-warcraft games did blizzard release this year? lol trust me this is all wow cash

Its not only WOW, other Blizzard games still sell a huge amount even today....every Blizzard game is still sold in nearly every gaming related store..Hell, Before WOW came out, Blizzard's revenue was alreaedy 750 million...

But I do think its kind of funny, that Blizzard's revenue alone surpassed NPD PC retail numbers...I think this is good proof that these numbers are fairly worthless when it comes to PC gaming.

again, npd only tracks sales, most of that moeny isnt coming from sales, its coming from monthly subs

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#19 cobrax25
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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="strahd01"][QUOTE="TeamR"][QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

warmaster670

Just to be fair, the 1.2 billion is blizzard's overall revenue. Not just the money it made from WoW.

But yeah, NPD is useless for judging pc sales

What non-warcraft games did blizzard release this year? lol trust me this is all wow cash

Its not only WOW, other Blizzard games still sell a huge amount even today....every Blizzard game is still sold in nearly every gaming related store..Hell, Before WOW came out, Blizzard's revenue was alreaedy 750 million...

But I do think its kind of funny, that Blizzard's revenue alone surpassed NPD PC retail numbers...I think this is good proof that these numbers are fairly worthless when it comes to PC gaming.

again, npd only tracks sales, most of that moeny isnt coming from sales, its coming from monthly subs

they only track retail sales, not even DD, according to several devs, they are getting more sales off of DD, than Retail at this point.

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#20 kryloc
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

Didn't NPD say that total PC sales amounted to 970 million dollars? So WOW alone surpassed that?

Why do we use NPD again?

Gunraidan

NPD is only for North America where PC Gaming = Xbox Gaming in Japan.

Good point 1.2 billion from worldwide sales.

But I disagree that PC gaming is NA is anywhere near the low level of Xbox Gaming in Japan.

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#21 Gunraidan
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But I disagree that PC gaming is NA is anywhere near the low level of Xbox Gaming in Japan.

kryloc

Yeah maybe that was a little over-statement. Still you get the picture.

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#22 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

Sir_BIGnuts

PC Gaming dead or actually outpacing console gaming?

Watch out, consoleites. This is the year of the Lich King, Starcraft 2, Spore and many others....

/agree

15 x 12 x 6,500,000 = 1,170,000,000 Just WoW

I say 6.5m because that's probably about the amount of people that are paying every month. I know i myslef take 2-4 month hiatuses every once in a while. It's actually a lot less becuase you also have to account for all the BC sales

No, they actualy have 10mln subscribers, so there really are 10mln people paying every month. This number proves that, despite what some console fanboys were claiming. Remember that half of WoW users are in Asia and the montly fees there are half of what they are in US and Europe.

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#23 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

CrimsonBlade360

PC Gaming dead or actually outpacing console gaming?

Watch out, consoleites. This is the year of the Lich King, Starcraft 2, Spore and many others....

Oh the Lich king, i might have to go back to playing WoW

Screw WoW, I get enough Lich King in TFT.:D

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Even though it's most all WoW it's still impressive that they make up that big of a chunk of the games industry. Hopefully they're using that cash to expand and make more games.
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Even though it's most all WoW it's still impressive that they make up that big of a chunk of the games industry. Hopefully they're using that cash to expand and make more games.Lazy_Boy88
ACtually they aren't using their cash to make more games... the only new game other than WOW we will get is Starcraft 2... No Warcraft 4, no Diablo 3...
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#26 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Even though it's most all WoW it's still impressive that they make up that big of a chunk of the games industry. Hopefully they're using that cash to expand and make more games.haris12121212
ACtually they aren't using their cash to make more games... the only new game other than WOW we will get is Starcraft 2... No Warcraft 4, no Diablo 3...

We want perfect games or near perfect. Why would they work on WC4 while their RTS teams are working on SC2? Same could go for D3.

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#27 haris12121212
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Even though it's most all WoW it's still impressive that they make up that big of a chunk of the games industry. Hopefully they're using that cash to expand and make more games.SSCyborg

ACtually they aren't using their cash to make more games... the only new game other than WOW we will get is Starcraft 2... No Warcraft 4, no Diablo 3...

We want perfect games or near perfect. Why would they work on WC4 while their RTS teams are working on SC2? Same could go for D3.

Yes thats true, but Warcraft 3 TFT came out in 2003 (in other words, 5 years before), and Diablo 2 LoD even more 7 years before (it came out in 2001)

I think that after 5 years a sequel (and 7 years for Diablo) is deserved.

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[QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Even though it's most all WoW it's still impressive that they make up that big of a chunk of the games industry. Hopefully they're using that cash to expand and make more games.haris12121212

ACtually they aren't using their cash to make more games... the only new game other than WOW we will get is Starcraft 2... No Warcraft 4, no Diablo 3...

We want perfect games or near perfect. Why would they work on WC4 while their RTS teams are working on SC2? Same could go for D3.

Yes thats true, but Warcraft 3 TFT came out in 2003 (in other words, 5 years before), and Diablo 2 LoD even more 7 years before (it came out in 2001)

I think that after 5 years a sequel (and 7 years for Diablo) is deserved.



well World of Warcraft is actually the sequel to warcraft 3 TFT... as far as story is concerned anyway. In Diablos case, they are working on an unknown game right now... could very well be the next diablo. I guess we have to wait till Blizcon 08 to find out.
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#29 TOAO_Cyrus1
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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="mismajor99"]

Wow, Blizzard released revenues today of 1.2 Billion, not to shabby for a software company. The vast majority of that isn't even counted in the official PC NPD numbers...

http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?story=51055

Sir_BIGnuts

PC Gaming dead or actually outpacing console gaming?

Watch out, consoleites. This is the year of the Lich King, Starcraft 2, Spore and many others....

/agree

15 x 12 x 6,500,000 = 1,170,000,000 Just WoW

I say 6.5m because that's probably about the amount of people that are paying every month. I know i myslef take 2-4 month hiatuses every once in a while. It's actually a lot less becuase you also have to account for all the BC sales

Actually it was 1.2 billion just from WOW and 1.5 billion overall. With asia players paying like 8-10$ it makes up for the difference.

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#30 warmaster670
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[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="SSCyborg"]

[QUOTE="haris12121212"][QUOTE="Lazy_Boy88"]Even though it's most all WoW it's still impressive that they make up that big of a chunk of the games industry. Hopefully they're using that cash to expand and make more games.SupergumXP

ACtually they aren't using their cash to make more games... the only new game other than WOW we will get is Starcraft 2... No Warcraft 4, no Diablo 3...

We want perfect games or near perfect. Why would they work on WC4 while their RTS teams are working on SC2? Same could go for D3.

Yes thats true, but Warcraft 3 TFT came out in 2003 (in other words, 5 years before), and Diablo 2 LoD even more 7 years before (it came out in 2001)

I think that after 5 years a sequel (and 7 years for Diablo) is deserved.



well World of Warcraft is actually the sequel to warcraft 3 TFT... as far as story is concerned anyway. In Diablos case, they are working on an unknown game right now... could very well be the next diablo. I guess we have to wait till Blizcon 08 to find out.

no, i doubt it is, unless they see buthering there story as a good thing.

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So can we make WoW subscription go down in price yet?
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They make so much money and they haven't released a new game (not including the BC Expansion) in almost 4 years.

Damn some companies would be out of business if they went that long.

Pretty impressive.

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#34 AdrianWerner
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They make so much money and they haven't released a new game (not including the BC Expansion) in almost 4 years.

Damn some companies would be out of business if they went that long.

Pretty impressive.

TemplaerDude

Well, they were like that for a long time. WC3 was out 4 years after Starcraft afterall. Blizzard can afford to take time, altough it's possible only on PC, it wouldn't work on consoles

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#35 Zero5000X
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The real question is, "Does Bill Gates make more?"
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#36 KungfuKitten
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[QUOTE="TemplaerDude"]

They make so much money and they haven't released a new game (not including the BC Expansion) in almost 4 years.

Damn some companies would be out of business if they went that long.

Pretty impressive.

AdrianWerner

Well, they were like that for a long time. WC3 was out 4 years after Starcraft afterall. Blizzard can afford to take time, altough it's possible only on PC, it wouldn't work on consoles


In that sense they are the opposite of EA. And i think it's fun to see that a company taking its time to make a proper game tramples a company that tries to release as many moneymakers to the world as possible.
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#37 IgGy621985
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Well, with recent release of Valve Steamworks, I have a feeling that we might see Steam market sales aswell soon enough.

If the Steam market is anywhere near we might expect (ie surprisingly big), gaming industry might be on track towards a pretty big (r)evolution.

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Hope they make WC 4 in the near future
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#39 Zero5000X
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Hope they make WC 4 in the near futureLonelynight

Thats the dream... I remember them saying that WC4 was one of the things they were considering doing after SC2, but I personally think we'll see Diablo 3 first.

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#40 bignice12
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So can we make WoW subscription go down in price yet?KungfuKitten

Probably not it must cost a fortune to upkeep the servers, customer support, GMs, account administrators,etc for 10 million people. Not to mention the devs that keep pushing out content.

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#41 mjarantilla
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I wonder if it's possible for Blizzard to buy itself out of Activision and Vivendi the way Bungie did?

Then again, the WoW servers are probably owned by Vivendi.

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#42 cobrax25
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I wonder if it's possible for Blizzard to buy itself out of Activision and Vivendi the way Bungie did?

Then again, the WoW servers are probably owned by Vivendi.

mjarantilla

It doesnt matter, Blizzard is allowed so much freedom it even publishes and funds its own games. I imagine Viviendi has figured out by now that the best thing to do, is just leave Blizzard alone and let them do their own thing.

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#43 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]Hope they make WC 4 in the near futureZero5000X

Thats the dream... I remember them saying that WC4 was one of the things they were considering doing after SC2, but I personally think we'll see Diablo 3 first.

Gods I hope so. A 3D Diablo? Yeesh, forget Ninja Gaiden, forget God of War, forget Heavenly Sword. The Diablo 3 would be the god of all action games.

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#44 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

I wonder if it's possible for Blizzard to buy itself out of Activision and Vivendi the way Bungie did?

Then again, the WoW servers are probably owned by Vivendi.

cobrax25

It doesnt matter, Blizzard is allowed so much freedom it even publishes and funds its own games. I imagine Viviendi has figured out by now that the best thing to do, is just leave Blizzard alone and let them do their own thing.

True, but sometimes I wonder if the decision to produce games set solely in Blizzard's three franchises (Diablo, SC, WC) isn't part of a mandate by Vivendi.

I would love to see them try and create a new IP.

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#45 Zero5000X
Member since 2004 • 8314 Posts
[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

I wonder if it's possible for Blizzard to buy itself out of Activision and Vivendi the way Bungie did?

Then again, the WoW servers are probably owned by Vivendi.

mjarantilla

It doesnt matter, Blizzard is allowed so much freedom it even publishes and funds its own games. I imagine Viviendi has figured out by now that the best thing to do, is just leave Blizzard alone and let them do their own thing.

True, but sometimes I wonder if the decision to produce games set solely in Blizzard's three franchises (Diablo, SC, WC) isn't part of a mandate by Vivendi.

I would love to see them try and create a new IP.

I would like them to buy themselves out of Vivendi. Vivendi's cool but I'd like to see Blizzard on their own. With the money they make from WoW they could become a mega-publisher to rival EA and Activision-Blizzard (or whatever they'd be called if Blizz left). With Blizzard's high standards I think they would be the best publisher.