Blizzard CGI vs Square Enix CGI

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#51 ActicEdge
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Blizzard is probably ahead but I love me some SE CGI.

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#52 texasgoldrush
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quality > quantity so blizzard
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#53 hakanakumono
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What is this about SE CGI not being relevant to the story? Lol, CGI is used to tell the story itself ...

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#54 ohthemanatee
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yeah, no they dont

I dont even remember Starcrafts boring CGI cutscenes, i sure as hell remember Cloud vs sephiroth, and looking at youtube views, i think people agree with me, Cloud vs sephiroth wasnt even cgi

Ultizer

Final Fantasy 7 had the worst CGI out of all PS1 final fantasy games

and by the way, this cinematic was more epic then any CGI found in FF7 imo

in my opinion Final Fantasy 8 had the best CGI out of all the PS1 final fantasies, the intro was so epic

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#55 ActicEdge
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What is this about SE CGI not being relevant to the story? Lol, CGI is used to tell the story itself ...

hakanakumono

to be honest if there is anything to be offended about its the quality vs quantity argument. SE produces far more CGI and as this thread proves if they are second to anyone its only Blizzard, Its almost as if people are saying SE CGI is not quality. . . anyway, I remember when CGI was a treat, I wish it would go back to being that way.

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#56 oldkingallant
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From the screens provided I'd almost want to say Square Enix.

But in general definitely Blizzard. Some cutscenes in the original Starcraft look better than most new ones.

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#57 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is this about SE CGI not being relevant to the story? Lol, CGI is used to tell the story itself ...

ActicEdge

to be honest if there is anything to be offended about its the quality vs quantity argument. SE produces far more CGI and as this thread proves if they are second to anyone its only Blizzard, Its almost as if people are saying SE CGI is not quality. . . anyway, I remember when CGI was a treat, I wish it would go back to being that way.

CGI is still a treat . It's rarely used in FFXIII.

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#58 Jynxzor
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Gotta say my hat goes off to SE, but both are pretty much equal but SE's bredth of style as a larger company with different game/art styles is what wins me over. Hell Parasite Eve was one of the best looking games of it's time period.
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#59 texasgoldrush
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I say Bioware's is the best not when it comes to CGI, but when it comes to cutscenes in general. Players can interact with them.
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#60 MJPK
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Blizzard are better imo.Warcraft 3 CGI's are still brilliant today and Starcraft 2 CGI's are amazing.

Edit: plus the music in Blizzards CGI is much better than SE

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#61 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

What is this about SE CGI not being relevant to the story? Lol, CGI is used to tell the story itself ...

hakanakumono

to be honest if there is anything to be offended about its the quality vs quantity argument. SE produces far more CGI and as this thread proves if they are second to anyone its only Blizzard, Its almost as if people are saying SE CGI is not quality. . . anyway, I remember when CGI was a treat, I wish it would go back to being that way.

CGI is still a treat . It's rarely used in FFXIII.

I was talking about the industry as a whole really,

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#62 ampiva
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Starcraft by light years.
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#63 caughtjoo
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[QUOTE="ohthemanatee"][QUOTE="Ultizer"]

I cant believe people say blizzard

most people on system wars havent played the PS1 Final fantasys thats for sure

its much easier for blizzard to focus on one CGI trailer per 3 years than Sqaure to do about 30 per game

Ultizer

I own every PS1 final fantasy including 6, origins and anthology and I can safely say that Starcraft 1's CGI blow Fina Fantasy's CGI out of the water

yeah, no they dont

I dont even remember Starcrafts boring CGI cutscenes, i sure as hell remember Cloud vs sephiroth, and looking at youtube views, i think people agree with me, Cloud vs sephiroth wasnt even cgi

Why would you pick cloud vs seph? There was such great CGI in FFIX it wasn't even funny.
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For everyone who played SC2, the answer is obvious, for the rest: check the vids, they are superior in every aspect. I do love the art style of SE though

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#65 Birdy09
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For everyone who played SC2, the answer is obvious, for the rest: check the vids, they are superior in every aspect. I do love the art style of SE though

ArchoNils2

Yup, Kerrigans Betrayal:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V1PwpoDqzM&feature=related

The Ending:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8xG8ykoK4E

Square Enix CGI is always "pretty" but I often find it just anime/pop crap (even though I like anime) including the final fantasy series, it often feels tacky, other than a few exceptions the emotion and "Epicness" is often left in the dust with music and sound effects, and voices.

Whereas Blizzard does less, they nail pretty much every one they do perfectly in every aspects.

Though I wish the Zeratul vs Kerrigan fight was longer.... bit dissapointed.

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#66 Thunderdrone
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For me its been Blizzard since Diablo 2.

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#67 Ballroompirate
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GejwFn_4ZzU

I would link SC2 CGI but it wouldnt be far for Square Enix lol.

Btw Blizzard /end of topic.

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#68 Giancar
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Blizzard, but there are only 3 cgis in SC2 haven't palyed FFXIII yet though
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#69 N30F3N1X
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Though I wish the Zeratul vs Kerrigan fight was longer.... bit dissapointed.

Birdy09

Yet, that moment brought the definition of "epic" ten levels up.

I needed to change my pants twice in less than a minute because of the "OMG!" feeling.

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#70 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Though I wish the Zeratul vs Kerrigan fight was longer.... bit dissapointed.

N30F3N1X

Yet, that moment brought the definition of "epic" ten levels up.

I needed to change my pants twice in less than a minute because of the "OMG!" feeling.

Yea it was amazing, il link it for the SE voters to be converted by the awesomeness!

Kerrigan vs Zeratul HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgatL2LQKLI&feature=related

I like SE by all means, but they cannot match, I cant think of an FF CGI I found more impressive than Blizzards, it just doesnt happen! :P

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Blizzard.
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#73 Arach666
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Blizzard by far.

They don´t even use mocap. That´s how good they are.

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#74 MJPK
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

[QUOTE="Birdy09"]

Though I wish the Zeratul vs Kerrigan fight was longer.... bit dissapointed.

Birdy09

Yet, that moment brought the definition of "epic" ten levels up.

I needed to change my pants twice in less than a minute because of the "OMG!" feeling.

Yea it was amazing, il link it for the SE voters to be converted by the awesomeness!

Kerrigan vs Zeratul HD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgatL2LQKLI&feature=related

I like SE by all means, but they cannot match, I cant think of an FF CGI I found more impressive than Blizzards, it just doesnt happen! :P

Thats is easily the best cinematic in the game.I watched it 5-6 times before I continued on with the missions :P

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#75 Einhanderkiller
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Blizzard's CGI isn't as long (only ~13 minutes of CGI in StarCraft 2, I think) but the quality is jaw-droppingly incredible. I say Blizzard.
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#76 hakanakumono
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Gotta say my hat goes off to SE, but both are pretty much equal but SE's bredth of style as a larger company with different game/art styles is what wins me over. Hell Parasite Eve was one of the best looking games of it's time period.Jynxzor

They didn't do the CGI in PE1, but they did do the CGI in PE2.

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#77 ShadowriverUB
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As a reminder SE made CGI for Deus Ex 3 trailers :P don't bash something just because it has eastern style

IMO bot Blizz and SE are leaders in industry in this terms

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#78 Arach666
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As a reminder SE made CGI for Deus Ex 3 trailers :P don't bash something just because it has eastern style

IMO bot Blizz and SE are leaders in industry in this terms

ShadowriverUB

That trailer was probably the best CGI that I´ve seen coming from SE.

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#79 ShadowriverUB
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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

As a reminder SE made CGI for Deus Ex 3 trailers :P don't bash something just because it has eastern style

IMO bot Blizz and SE are leaders in industry in this terms

Arach666

That trailer was probably the best CGI that I´ve seen coming from SE.

There always been that good, FF8 CGIs was one of best of there times. Ofcorse we talk here about game CGI quality right? ;)

FF Versus XIII ones are also one of there best:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6At_bb1PNU

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/dks3713-trailer-final-fantasy/43746

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#80 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

As a reminder SE made CGI for Deus Ex 3 trailers :P don't bash something just because it has eastern style

IMO bot Blizz and SE are leaders in industry in this terms

Arach666

That trailer was probably the best CGI that I´ve seen coming from SE.

Well it's fairly recent lol.

I'm excited to see the CG in T3B, even though it's a PSP title.

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#81 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

As a reminder SE made CGI for Deus Ex 3 trailers :P don't bash something just because it has eastern style

IMO bot Blizz and SE are leaders in industry in this terms

ShadowriverUB

That trailer was probably the best CGI that I´ve seen coming from SE.

There always been that good, FF8 CGIs was one of best of there times. Ofcorse we talk here about game CGI quality right? ;)

They have done many outstanding CGI in the past but I never saw one as good as that trailer,but it´s Deus Ex and I love it so take my opinion with a grain of salt.:)
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#82 hakanakumono
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Star Craft was 1998, right? I think the CGI in Xenogears was a little better, although infrequent and very short.

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#83 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"]

As a reminder SE made CGI for Deus Ex 3 trailers :P don't bash something just because it has eastern style

IMO bot Blizz and SE are leaders in industry in this terms

hakanakumono

That trailer was probably the best CGI that I´ve seen coming from SE.

Well it's fairly recent lol.

I'm excited to see the CG in T3B, even though it's a PSP title.

Yeah I know lol,I think it´s mainly due to the fact that it´s Deus Ex that got me so excited.:P Hmmm,what´s T3B?
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#84 santoron
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Blizzard and SE both makegreat scenes for sure... I'd say they are about on par with each other. At least, I think they are both enough in the same ballpark that it probably comes down to your preference of game. But SE cranks out that level of CGI far more often than Blizzard.

So SE. Sue me. :D

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#85 Arach666
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Star Craft was 1998, right? I think the CGI in Xenogears was a little better, although infrequent and very short.

hakanakumono

Yeah,it was 1998.

I´ve never seen Xenogears CGI,maybe you´re right.

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#86 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] That trailer was probably the best CGI that I´ve seen coming from SE.

Arach666

Well it's fairly recent lol.

I'm excited to see the CG in T3B, even though it's a PSP title.

Yeah I know lol,I think it´s mainly due to the fact that it´s Deus Ex that got me so excited.:P Hmmm,what´s T3B?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94St7uJUFUA

;)

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#87 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Star Craft was 1998, right? I think the CGI in Xenogears was a little better, although infrequent and very short.

Arach666

Yeah,it was 1998.

I´ve never seen Xenogears CGI,maybe you´re right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLCvs2pQJOE

If I'm not mistaken, the picture quality in Starcraft also took a loss in quality due to 256 colors (indicated by the blotchyness of it).

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#88 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Well it's fairly recent lol.

I'm excited to see the CG in T3B, even though it's a PSP title.

hakanakumono

Yeah I know lol,I think it´s mainly due to the fact that it´s Deus Ex that got me so excited.:P Hmmm,what´s T3B?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94St7uJUFUA

;)

Oh,I see.:oops:

They aren´t using the Parasite Eve name,that´s what got me confused.

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#89 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Yeah I know lol,I think it´s mainly due to the fact that it´s Deus Ex that got me so excited.:P Hmmm,what´s T3B?Arach666

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94St7uJUFUA

;)

Oh,I see.:oops:

They aren´t using the Parasite Eve name,that´s what got me confused.

I think they're withholding the PE3 name because they don't want to discourage people from trying it who weren't exposed to it before. A large portion of the PSP audience in Japan was probably too young for the original games.

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#90 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Star Craft was 1998, right? I think the CGI in Xenogears was a little better, although infrequent and very short.

hakanakumono

Yeah,it was 1998.

I´ve never seen Xenogears CGI,maybe you´re right.

If I'm not mistaken, the picture quality in Starcraft also took a loss in quality due to 256 colors (indicated by the blotchyness of it).

True,256 hampered it a bit.

Indeed,that looks a bit better...

[spoiler] ...but not as epic as Starcraft!:P [/spoiler]

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#91 princemarth23
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Blizzard, though Square Enix does have some very impressive CGI.

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#92 hakanakumono
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Oh come now, it's Xenogears. You really ought to play it. ;)

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#93 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94St7uJUFUA

;)

hakanakumono

Oh,I see.:oops:

They aren´t using the Parasite Eve name,that´s what got me confused.

I think they're withholding the PE3 name because they don't want to discourage people from trying it who weren't exposed to it before. A large portion of the PSP audience in Japan was probably too young for the original games.

True,but the PE name,although not a very strong one in terms of marketing these days could still help to sell more copies,especially to the old crowd.
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#94 hakanakumono
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Wait a minute, are we forgetting that CG movie Square Made, Spirits Within?

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#95 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Arach666"] Oh,I see.:oops:

They aren´t using the Parasite Eve name,that´s what got me confused.

Arach666

I think they're withholding the PE3 name because they don't want to discourage people from trying it who weren't exposed to it before. A large portion of the PSP audience in Japan was probably too young for the original games.

True,but the PE name,although not a very strong one in terms of marketing these days could still help to sell more copies,especially to the old crowd.

There is some suspicion that they lost the rights to the name. That and it's no longer about deviant mitochondria.

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#96 Arach666
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Oh come now, it's Xenogears. You really ought to play it. ;)

hakanakumono

Yeah,I know.;)

It´s going to be a bit hard to track it these days though,probably only online.

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#97 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh come now, it's Xenogears. You really ought to play it. ;)

Arach666

Yeah,I know.;)

It´s going to be a bit hard to track it these days though,probably only online.

I buy practically everything online, unless it's new.

Xenogears manages to be pretty epic with dinky little PSX graphics (although they were well done).

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#98 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I think they're withholding the PE3 name because they don't want to discourage people from trying it who weren't exposed to it before. A large portion of the PSP audience in Japan was probably too young for the original games.

hakanakumono

True,but the PE name,although not a very strong one in terms of marketing these days could still help to sell more copies,especially to the old crowd.

There is some suspicion that they lost the rights to the name. That and it's no longer about deviant mitochondria.

Oh,I see. Also,I believe the game is considered to be a spin off,hence why the PE name isn´t on it.

At least that´s what wiki says.

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#99 XboximusPrime
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Anyone else vote that the Warcraft Movie shoud just be a CG Movie done by the same peopel that do Blizzards CG stuff these days?

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#100 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh come now, it's Xenogears. You really ought to play it. ;)

hakanakumono

Yeah,I know.;)

It´s going to be a bit hard to track it these days though,probably only online.

I buy practically everything online, unless it's new.

Xenogears manages to be pretty epic with dinky little PSX graphics (although they were well done).

That reminds me,I´ve played a game called Vagrant Story because lots of people said it was great(even reviews)but I didn´t liked it. Is Xenogears a similar game in any way?