Blizzard to make Battle.Net cost $$$ ?

I dont know why some of you guys are acting as though your best friend just backstabbed you. Blizzard is a company and the main goal of a company is to make moneyEPaul

The main goal of an individual is to want to save money.

A secondary goal, a huge one, is to get value out of what you do buy.

Another one, a serious primary intellectual goal, is to advance art and to finance those that are truly forthright, honest, and generous, and deplore and detract from those that are greedy, malevolent, and unkind.

I'm not saying they are any of those things, but to put it shortly, I respect the hell out of Blizzard and always have. But I'm not going to say that I always will. If they become EA, or, God forbid, one-up EA, I will utterly hate them.

I hate Microsoft for Vista, and for good reason. I hate Apple for an assortment of things. I love Linux. Are you beginning to see a trend?

Yes, all businesses want to make money, but some actually make a good product and actually try and give their consumers value. And as consumers we should take note of which ones fit into which camp and call them when they're crossing over the line. You want me to take a slap in the face with a complement? Or with negligence?

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]Whether that means updates, additional content, or the actual service itself (I've scarcely seen it proven that they won't do any of the above, and the direct quote gives me means to worry), I don't know and you can't tell me.XaosII

Actually we can tell you:

"Diablo III director Jay Wilson said today that the company does not have a great desire to charge a subscription fee for the upcoming revision of its multiplayer client Battle.net. However, the developer did note that Blizzard will likely monetize unknown features of the game."

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55271

No need for anyone to start screaming the sky is falling. You're jumping to conclusions without any basis.

As long as it's garbage I don't care about, that's fine. All I want is, say, Warcraft III's feature set and I'm happy.

And to begin with, I'm pissed about the three seperate retail products. Sand in an open wound, that kind of jazz.

As long as it's garbage I don't care about, that's fine. All I want is, say, Warcraft III's feature set and I'm happy.

And to begin with, I'm pissed about the three seperate retail products. Sand in an open wound, that kind of jazz.

BobHipJames

Whats bad about the three seperate boxed products? Some of the details can be found here.

You do realize that each boxed product contains a 26 - 30 mission campaign. If they are your typical SC/WC3 30 minute to 1 hour missions, you're looking at about a 25+ hour singleplayer campaign for just one race.

You would only consider purchasing more than one box if you are interested in the singleplayer portion of that race. And if you truly were interested in the singleplayer story of that race, then you'd much rather have 30 nicely done missions over just 10 nicely done missions, right?

You also realize that each box comes with multiplayer, and any one of them will give you access to all 3 races online.

[QUOTE="BobHipJames"]

As long as it's garbage I don't care about, that's fine. All I want is, say, Warcraft III's feature set and I'm happy.

And to begin with, I'm pissed about the three seperate retail products. Sand in an open wound, that kind of jazz.

XaosII

You do realize that each boxed product contains a 26 - 30 mission campaign. If they are your typical SC/WC3 30 minute to 1 hour missions, you're looking at about a 25+ hour singleplayer campaign for just one race.

More than that actually, the campaign are NON LINEAR, and you can choose several paths through the campaign... allowing for several playthroughs with different experiences and your choices HAVE an effect on what happens during the game, althought all the endings will be the same, how you get there is up to you.

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"]Am I the only one who has experienced a significant dip in respect for Blizzard over the past few years?Espada12

No, you're not. The things Blizz has been doing to WoW over the past year or so havereally challenged the notion I used to hold about them only caring about a quality product and not money. *cough* esport advertising dollars *cough*

Yea I mean having the best MMO on the market means they don't care about quality.:roll:

Seriously do you guys think before making statements?

[QUOTE="Espada12"][QUOTE="ANeuralPathway"]

[QUOTE="thepwninator"]Am I the only one who has experienced a significant dip in respect for Blizzard over the past few years?Nerkcon

No, you're not. The things Blizz has been doing to WoW over the past year or so havereally challenged the notion I used to hold about them only caring about a quality product and not money. *cough* esport advertising dollars *cough*

Yea I mean having the best MMO on the market means they don't care about quality.:roll:

Seriously do you guys think before making statements?

Yes and both are lacking in other areas of thier respective games, WoW is the only game to attempt to balance PVE and PVP, oh my god forbid they do both things well in both of thier MMOs huh? Why not compare WoWs pvp to LOTROs or EQs and it's PVE to Warhammer? Why? Because it makes your argument mute. I know class are imbalanced in WoW currently, but since you used WAR as an example, have you seen bright wizards? Those guys are imba has hell and have been since beta yet the devs never did a thing about it. Please, seriously, WoW is the best MMO on the market, there is no other game that comes with a good balance of PVP and PVE.

How the hell is Blizzard financially crippled. WoW brings in $130 MILLION per month. Seriously, they could have developed both SCII and Diablo III on a ONE months WoW revenues.

They're not financially crippled. And if they are some Vivendi is doing som serious imbezeling.

Keep telling yourself that. WoW's PVP only takes having the right classes in you group and having better gear. The only thing they have for PVP are 'teh epiz!!1!' Everquest' PVP is probably more fun because of the sheer amount of classes. Neither of them are balance so who cares? The core of the player base of WoW are people who would prefer the Nintendo Wii over the other consoles (and no, not for Metriod Prime or Zelda, But for Wii music or Wii sports) And addiction /=/ fun. You can't seriously say arenas was more fun tan Terran mill pvp can you? I forgot will I found the blog, but World of Warcraft has slowly been replacing fun with time comusmming 'awards'. I won't say anymore though. I don't like MMOs regardless. But I'm just letting you know that are better MMOs than WoW, WoW is just half decent in all areas.Nerkcon

WoW has good PVE and good PVP, name another game that does and until then WOW will remain king. Do you not understand this is why WoW is on top?

How the hell is Blizzard financially crippled. WoW brings in $130 MILLION per month. Seriously, they could have developed both SCII and Diablo III on a ONE months WoW revenues.

They're not financially crippled. And if they are some Vivendi is doing som serious imbezeling.

Acemaster27

That's the TC's adding false words to the article.

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"]Keep telling yourself that. WoW's PVP only takes having the right classes in you group and having better gear. The only thing they have for PVP are 'teh epiz!!1!' Everquest' PVP is probably more fun because of the sheer amount of classes. Neither of them are balance so who cares? The core of the player base of WoW are people who would prefer the Nintendo Wii over the other consoles (and no, not for Metriod Prime or Zelda, But for Wii music or Wii sports) And addiction /=/ fun. You can't seriously say arenas was more fun tan Terran mill pvp can you? I forgot will I found the blog, but World of Warcraft has slowly been replacing fun with time comusmming 'awards'. I won't say anymore though. I don't like MMOs regardless. But I'm just letting you know that are better MMOs than WoW, WoW is just half decent in all areas.Espada12

WoW has good PVE and good PVP, name another game that does and until then WOW will remain king. Do you not understand this is why WoW is on top?

Fine, I guess you have me there. There are some online games I really love that have great PVe and PVP in my opinion, but I will never play a free online game because they are more expansive to pay for all the features, are easy for people to hack, and have terrible management. :( The sad truth about MMO PVP is that there are so every few that do it right. But neither of WoW's PVP or PVE are great deals if you just want one or the other. Nerkcon

I can agree to that, I expect the KOTOR MMO to challenge WoW, or blizzard own new one. People will see the good in balancing both aspects of the game.