Blu ray wins, PS3 wins

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="RotaryRX7"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. RotaryRX7

Is that my problem?

It's Sony's problem chief, not mine. They are the ones that need to move the DVD owners from the DVD format over to the HD formats.

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. InfamousC

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Exactly what does Wii and 360 have to do with Blu Ray?

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Puckhog04

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Read all the posts next time.

"a) there was no competition with the succession to DVD, it was a consumer driven transition, opposed to a corporate pushed transition we're facing now
b) DVDs provided a revolutionary form and function, not only were audio and visual quality better, you could pause, skip and escape primitive VHS ****navigation. HD formats do not provide the same jump
c) DVDs required no other adoptive technologies. HD formats require the extremely expensive HDTVs.

So it's a smaller jump, that requires more of consumers, it's not the same situation."

Posted by Danm_999

People who own HDTVs will not want to watch a movie on DVD on them. Your post fails.

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Ps3Solider

VHS, WAS OUTSEELIN THE DVD, AND LOOK HOW IT TURNED OUT!!! OFF COURSE DVD ITS OUTSELLIN BLUE RAY, BUT GIVE IT TIME.

Let me let you in on a little secret. People who buy HDTVs are not going to want to watch DVDs on them.

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Ps3Solider

VHS, WAS OUTSEELIN THE DVD, AND LOOK HOW IT TURNED OUT!!! OFF COURSE DVD ITS OUTSELLIN BLUE RAY, BUT GIVE IT TIME.

Let me let you in on a little secret. People who buy HDTVs are not going to want to watch DVDs on them.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. InfamousC

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Read all the posts next time.

"a) there was no competition with the succession to DVD, it was a consumer driven transition, opposed to a corporate pushed transition we're facing now
b) DVDs provided a revolutionary form and function, not only were audio and visual quality better, you could pause, skip and escape primitive VHS ****navigation. HD formats do not provide the same jump
c) DVDs required no other adoptive technologies. HD formats require the extremely expensive HDTVs.

So it's a smaller jump, that requires more of consumers, it's not the same situation."

Posted by Danm_999

People who own HDTVs will not want to watch a movie on DVD on them. Your post fails.

And what was the HDTV penetration as of now? Incredibly low? That's what i thought.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

Exactly what does Wii and 360 have to do with Blu Ray?

AvinashTyagi

Because you said so? :lol:

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. PabbssPS3

VHS, WAS OUTSEELIN THE DVD, AND LOOK HOW IT TURNED OUT!!! OFF COURSE DVD ITS OUTSELLIN BLUE RAY, BUT GIVE IT TIME.

Exactly. It's too early this generation IMO for Bluray or HD-DVD.

its funny how you guys think you are smarter than the poeple tah tworks for sony!! they have the money and the brand to change peoples mind, what you guys have?

Sony knows better than anyone that blue ray its gonna win this gen, after all the ps2 boosted DVD sales m ps3 will b the same thing to blu ray, and its happening.

Is that why they have a whole cupboard full of failed formats under their belt?

And as I've said, DVD adoption is completely different to HD adoption.

u never get it rigth, MICROSOF FAILED  with other thing in the past, all companies fail sometime, Nintendo failed with N64 ATARI failed, Sony isnt perfect, but ps3 already 2millions sold = 2millions bluray players in less than 4 months, we all know its gonna win, is just matter of time.

lo!! u dont know how this markets work!! it doesnt matter if they are slow, they can rank up from tonigth to the next morning.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. InfamousC

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Read all the posts next time.

"a) there was no competition with the succession to DVD, it was a consumer driven transition, opposed to a corporate pushed transition we're facing now
b) DVDs provided a revolutionary form and function, not only were audio and visual quality better, you could pause, skip and escape primitive VHS ****navigation. HD formats do not provide the same jump
c) DVDs required no other adoptive technologies. HD formats require the extremely expensive HDTVs.

So it's a smaller jump, that requires more of consumers, it's not the same situation."

Posted by Danm_999

People who own HDTVs will not want to watch a movie on DVD on them. Your post fails.

And, still, BluRay has taken over in the last couple month, mostly because of free vouchers from pathetic P$3 sales.  Yep, BluRay might win the war, it's a possibility. 

But.....in all that time, P$3 are still sitting on store shelves in Japan, North America and Europe.  So by this measure, you buy your console mainly for gaming, and guess what, the 360 is gobbling up all of P$3 exclusives.  MGS and FFxx is now or soon to be 360's property!!!!:P

Bluray is the single most important reason why the P$3 has failed.........

Anyway, being a owner of a HD monitor for over 2 years, I still don't have a huge urge to buy a HD player.  And I am a huge media buff.  Nuff said......

So blu ray wins, PS3 wins! HD DVD its loosin bad, and blu ray will b the only format out there with DVD,. so people will buy the cheapest blu ray player in the market, and bling bling, PS3 $600 VS $1200

 

Ps3 will win.

PabbssPS3

Not yet, dang it!  The PS3 begins to really shine at the end of this year into next year! 

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

Exactly what does Wii and 360 have to do with Blu Ray?

InfamousC

Because you said so? :lol:

[QUOTE="PabbssPS3"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Danm_999

VHS, WAS OUTSEELIN THE DVD, AND LOOK HOW IT TURNED OUT!!! OFF COURSE DVD ITS OUTSELLIN BLUE RAY, BUT GIVE IT TIME.

Exactly. It's too early this generation IMO for Bluray or HD-DVD.

its funny how you guys think you are smarter than the poeple tah tworks for sony!! they have the money and the brand to change peoples mind, what you guys have?

Sony knows better than anyone that blue ray its gonna win this gen, after all the ps2 boosted DVD sales m ps3 will b the same thing to blu ray, and its happening.

Is that why they have a whole cupboard full of failed formats under their belt?

And as I've said, DVD adoption is completely different to HD adoption.

u never get it rigth, MICROSOF FAILED with other thing in the past, all companies fail sometime, Nintendo failed with N64 ATARI failed, Sony isnt perfect, but ps3 already 2millions sold = 2millions bluray players in less than 4 months, we all know its gonna win, is just matter of time.

those were other times, Sony has Studio company's to back up the blu ray format includin Sony's movies studio, COLUMBIA PICTURES,, im sorry guys, but Blu ray its the future like i or not, Sony did a great move by puttin this format in this gen.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. PabbssPS3

VHS, WAS OUTSEELIN THE DVD, AND LOOK HOW IT TURNED OUT!!! OFF COURSE DVD ITS OUTSELLIN BLUE RAY, BUT GIVE IT TIME.

Exactly. It's too early this generation IMO for Bluray or HD-DVD.

its funny how you guys think you are smarter than the poeple tah tworks for sony!! they have the money and the brand to change peoples mind, what you guys have?

Sony knows better than anyone that blue ray its gonna win this gen, after all the ps2 boosted DVD sales m ps3 will b the same thing to blu ray, and its happening.

Is that why they have a whole cupboard full of failed formats under their belt?

And as I've said, DVD adoption is completely different to HD adoption.

u never get it rigth, MICROSOF FAILED with other thing in the past, all companies fail sometime, Nintendo failed with N64 ATARI failed, Sony isnt perfect, but ps3 already 2millions sold = 2millions bluray players in less than 4 months, we all know its gonna win, is just matter of time.

those were other times, Sony has Studio company's to back up the blu ray format includin Sony's movies studio, COLUMBIA PICTURES,, im sorry guys, but Blu ray its the future like i or not, Sony did a great move by puttin this format in this gen.

People who own HDTVs are in the stark minority, and will be so for several years to come. The reasons for that are stated above in my post you just quoted. Thus, Blu-ray can't help the PS3, the PS3 has to help itself. It's not a hard concept to cope with, why are you having such trouble.Danm_999

Howcan it not help the PS3? If people buy an HDTV and want a cheap HD Blu Ray player they can get the PS3 so how can it not help the PS3?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] People who own HDTVs are in the stark minority, and will be so for several years to come. The reasons for that are stated above in my post you just quoted. Thus, Blu-ray can't help the PS3, the PS3 has to help itself. It's not a hard concept to cope with, why are you having such trouble.InfamousC

Howcan it not help the PS3? If people buy an HDTV and want a cheap HD Blu Ray player they can get the PS3 so how can it not help the PS3?

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] People who own HDTVs are in the stark minority, and will be so for several years to come. The reasons for that are stated above in my post you just quoted. Thus, Blu-ray can't help the PS3, the PS3 has to help itself. It's not a hard concept to cope with, why are you having such trouble.Danm_999

Howcan it not help the PS3? If people buy an HDTV and want a cheap HD Blu Ray player they can get the PS3 so how can it not help the PS3?

Ah I see now...Your logic ftl

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Danm_999"] People who own HDTVs are in the stark minority, and will be so for several years to come. The reasons for that are stated above in my post you just quoted. Thus, Blu-ray can't help the PS3, the PS3 has to help itself. It's not a hard concept to cope with, why are you having such trouble.InfamousC

Howcan it not help the PS3? If people buy an HDTV and want a cheap HD Blu Ray player they can get the PS3 so how can it not help the PS3?

Ah I see now...Your logic ftl

Nope because its happening, Blu-ray made it cost $599, most don't want Blu-ray, most don't want to spend $599 so most avoid the PS3 and instead by a Wii or 360AvinashTyagi

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. InfamousC

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Read all the posts next time.

"a) there was no competition with the succession to DVD, it was a consumer driven transition, opposed to a corporate pushed transition we're facing now
b) DVDs provided a revolutionary form and function, not only were audio and visual quality better, you could pause, skip and escape primitive VHS ****navigation. HD formats do not provide the same jump
c) DVDs required no other adoptive technologies. HD formats require the extremely expensive HDTVs.

So it's a smaller jump, that requires more of consumers, it's not the same situation."

Posted by Danm_999

People who own HDTVs will not want to watch a movie on DVD on them. Your post fails.

I do all the time considering my dvd player has a hd upscaler and can play hd-dvds, i can also download files off my computer onto the 250gb hdd and watch them off it on my HDTV in any format including Hd-formats! You lose my vote in this thread infamousC.

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]lol, 30+ bucks a HD-dvd/bru-ray vs 14.99 for a new relase on DVD. both formats lose.TheSolution3k

Since when does 480i beat 1080p?

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

Howcan it not help the PS3? If people buy an HDTV and want a cheap HD Blu Ray player they can get the PS3 so how can it not help the PS3?

Danm_999

Ah I see now...Your logic ftl

Firstly you don't know how it will effect PS3 in the long run. HDTV sales are on the rise. "It's likely that their will be cheaper players then the PS3" when there are none now? Blu Ray player prices will fall but PS3s price won't?

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Danm_999

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Read all the posts next time.

"a) there was no competition with the succession to DVD, it was a consumer driven transition, opposed to a corporate pushed transition we're facing now
b) DVDs provided a revolutionary form and function, not only were audio and visual quality better, you could pause, skip and escape primitive VHS ****navigation. HD formats do not provide the same jump
c) DVDs required no other adoptive technologies. HD formats require the extremely expensive HDTVs.

So it's a smaller jump, that requires more of consumers, it's not the same situation."

Posted by Danm_999

People who own HDTVs will not want to watch a movie on DVD on them. Your post fails.

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

Howcan it not help the PS3? If people buy an HDTV and want a cheap HD Blu Ray player they can get the PS3 so how can it not help the PS3?

InfamousC

Ah I see now...Your logic ftl

Firstly you don't know how it will effect PS3 in the long run. HDTV sales are on the rise. "It's likely that their will be cheaper players then the PS3" when there are none now? Blu Ray prices will fall but PS3s price won't?

[QUOTE="Danm_999"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"][QUOTE="InfamousC"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Ps3Solider

Your point?

Do i really need to explain this?

Read the rest of the thread, sheesh.

Yes you do. I have read the rest of the thread and non of the bashers have made a valid point.

Read all the posts next time.

"a) there was no competition with the succession to DVD, it was a consumer driven transition, opposed to a corporate pushed transition we're facing now
b) DVDs provided a revolutionary form and function, not only were audio and visual quality better, you could pause, skip and escape primitive VHS ****navigation. HD formats do not provide the same jump
c) DVDs required no other adoptive technologies. HD formats require the extremely expensive HDTVs.

So it's a smaller jump, that requires more of consumers, it's not the same situation."

Posted by Danm_999

People who own HDTVs will not want to watch a movie on DVD on them. Your post fails.

So blu ray wins, PS3 wins! HD DVD its loosin bad, and blu ray will b the only format out there with DVD,. so people will buy the cheapest blu ray player in the market, and bling bling, PS3 $600 VS $1200

 

Ps3 will win.

PabbssPS3

How is HD-DVD losing bad when Bluray has only sold a couple thousand more movies?  I guess PS3 is dead since Xbox 360 has sold 10's of millions more games?!

agreed. but remember sony isn't concentrating on being the winner for the next 5 years... they're aiming for the next 10 this time. and dont you agree by then we will have games that will be implementing more then 10gigs. if anything history proves that games are only getting bigger not the other way around (look at mass effect creators who already have stated that their games barely fits on the dvd9 and this is only 1-2 years into this gen)Ps3Solider

Remember when people said oblivion would be a whole lot of DVDS? Mass Effect is pretty much pushing the boundaries like oblivion did, but with the right compression tools and coding you can do anything. (Within hardware limitations)

What people tend to forget is, that even if you have a HD monitor, when you rent a movie, the vast vast majority, if not only format you can rent right now is DVD.

The average consumer will start to take the leap into a format within 2 to 4 years, when their "BlockBuster" has HD titles to rent in abundance.  Until then, the HD wars are rather insignificant to the average consumer.  Thus, a console lifecycle typically runs 5 to 6 years, by that time, it will be too late for the expensive PS3.

Sony made a huge mistake "console wise" with BluRay, but in the HD-DVD/BluRay war, they sacrfieced their console to push the format war into BluRay's favour.

So blu ray wins, PS3 wins! HD DVD its loosin bad, and blu ray will b the only format out there with DVD,. so people will buy the cheapest blu ray player in the market, and bling bling, PS3 $600 VS $1200

 

Ps3 will win.

PabbssPS3

if blue ray win we will see a price drop for the ps3 as well..and there will be cheaper blue ray player out there less then 1000 dollars..microsoft even wants to support it..if it comes down to it..blue ray is bein put on computers ..its not goin to replace dvd yet but it will  in a few years from now...at least hddvd is out  blue ray killed it..and microsoft is helpin it..

[QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

So blu ray wins, PS3 wins! HD DVD its loosin bad, and blu ray will b the only format out there with DVD,. so people will buy the cheapest blu ray player in the market, and bling bling, PS3 $600 VS $1200

 

Ps3 will win.

elementz28

if blue ray win we will see a price drop for the ps3 as well..and there will be cheaper blue ray player out there less then 1000 dollars..microsoft even wants to support it..if it comes down to it..blue ray is bein put on computers ..its not goin to replace dvd yet but it will in a few years from now...at least hddvd is out blue ray killed it..and microsoft is helpin it..

How did Bluray kill HD-DVD?  Bluray has sold at most  5,000 more movies then HD-DVD in North America.

HD-DVD is dead because Bluray has sold a few thousand more movies?  

I guess that means PS3 is dead since Xbox 360 has sold like 30-40 million more games? 

[QUOTE="elementz28"][QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

So blu ray wins, PS3 wins! HD DVD its loosin bad, and blu ray will b the only format out there with DVD,. so people will buy the cheapest blu ray player in the market, and bling bling, PS3 $600 VS $1200

 

Ps3 will win.

m3Boarder32

if blue ray win we will see a price drop for the ps3 as well..and there will be cheaper blue ray player out there less then 1000 dollars..microsoft even wants to support it..if it comes down to it..blue ray is bein put on computers ..its not goin to replace dvd yet but it will in a few years from now...at least hddvd is out blue ray killed it..and microsoft is helpin it..

How did Bluray kill HD-DVD?  Bluray has sold at most  5,000 more movies then HD-DVD in North America.

HD-DVD is dead because Bluray has sold a few thousand more movies?  

I guess that means PS3 is dead since Xbox 360 has sold like 30-40 million more games? 

u dont make sense!! give me a lynk to support ya argument!

DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Puckhog04

hey. I have an AWESOME invention. Its pretty old, and you don't have to pay $600 to watch movies.. its called DVD Virus214

Thanks for the tip peasant 

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]lol, 30+ bucks a HD-dvd/bru-ray vs 14.99 for a new relase on DVD. both formats lose.TheSolution3k

Since when does 480i beat 1080p?

*sigh* he means sales.... 

[QUOTE="TheSolution3k"]

[QUOTE="2scoopsofempty"]lol, 30+ bucks a HD-dvd/bru-ray vs 14.99 for a new relase on DVD. both formats lose.snakeofsolid

Since when does 480i beat 1080p?

*sigh* he means sales....

[QUOTE="PabbssPS3"]

[QUOTE="AvinashTyagi"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]DVD's are still outselling both on a massive scale. Danm_999

VHS, WAS OUTSEELIN THE DVD, AND LOOK HOW IT TURNED OUT!!! OFF COURSE DVD ITS OUTSELLIN BLUE RAY, BUT GIVE IT TIME.

Lol at ignorant fanboys. Why do you think Sony upgraded from Cartages? Nintendo sticking to cartages, shoot them selfs in the foot. If blu ray wins Microsoft will have to use It on the next console it produces which means royalties to sony. Sorry fanboysPaintballinDude