Bluepoint Games acquisition announcement from Sony appears imminent

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#101 SolidGame_basic
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@wonderwinner said:

Kingtito is extremely butthurt today. 😂

Today? More like every day 😄

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#102 kingtito
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@SolidGame_basic said:
@wonderwinner said:

Kingtito is extremely butthurt today. 😂

Today? More like every day 😄

Says the cow constantly creating "help me feel better" threads. I've never seen a faction living off the fantastic sales from their favorite company have so much buyers remorse.

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#103 Zero_epyon
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@kingtito: if the cover is fantastic and they sell as much as the original then that’s a serious achievement and any record label to sign them would hire song writers for them and they would do amazingly. See my point now?

Not really since the cover isn't the original, they're not singing original songs and we have no idea how they'd do on their own. Big difference from taking someone else's work and doing your own work. So far Bluepoint has only taken an existing game and remastered or in recent games remade. Still the same games just updated for today's technology. Do you see my point?

I feel like I already addressed your point. Agree to disagree?

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#104 TheGrat1
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I do not understand the hype behind a Bluepoint acquisition. They have only made 1 original title in their history and that was a small PSN title. Everything else has been remakes/remasters and ports of other Dev's IPs. I see no point in acquiring a studio that does nothing but port and remaster games so that must mean they have something up their sleeves, so that must mean people are excited by what they can develop on their own. However, the question is: what have they done to give you confidence in their development skills? Can anyone explain it to me?

This is nothing like Housemarque and lightyears away from Insomniac.

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#105  Edited By hardwenzen
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lol at people not seeing what Bluepoint has on offer. Literally one of the better tech wizards in the industry, but people are still having trouble seeing it🤭

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#106 Syn_Valence
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There's a big difference between buying companies that have made games exclusively for a system then buying a bonfide multiplat publisher like Microcrap did.

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#107 deactivated-611edca0d6021
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@hardwenzen: more like kingtito butthurt and damage controlling.

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#108 BenjaminBanklin
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@wonderwinner said:

@hardwenzen: more like kingtito butthurt and damage controlling.

,This acquisition is eating him alive. Might be time to call him kingtitty because he needs one in his mouth.

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#109 ZELDABOTW2
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I wonder if they will end up having 2 teams now and if one of the 2 could do a new ip.

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#111 deactivated-654dc0d1e0e5b
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@wonderwinner: 'Suddenly acquisitions and consolidation will suck according to lems.'

Suddenly acquisitions and consolidation is great for the consumer according to cows.

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#112 kingtito
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@Zero_epyon said:
@kingtito said:
@Zero_epyon said:

@kingtito: if the cover is fantastic and they sell as much as the original then that’s a serious achievement and any record label to sign them would hire song writers for them and they would do amazingly. See my point now?

Not really since the cover isn't the original, they're not singing original songs and we have no idea how they'd do on their own. Big difference from taking someone else's work and doing your own work. So far Bluepoint has only taken an existing game and remastered or in recent games remade. Still the same games just updated for today's technology. Do you see my point?

I feel like I already addressed your point. Agree to disagree?

Sure

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#113 kingtito
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@Syn_Valence said:

There's a big difference between buying companies that have made games exclusively for a system then buying a bonfide multiplat publisher like Microcrap did.

If it helps you sleep at night but most know different

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#114 LuxuryHeart
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@kingtito said:
@Syn_Valence said:

There's a big difference between buying companies that have made games exclusively for a system then buying a bonfide multiplat publisher like Microcrap did.

If it helps you sleep at night but most know different

To be fair, Bethesda was making games for all platforms, even the Switch. So it does suck for PS4/PS5 and Switch owners. Meanwhile, Bluepoint was mostly making games for Sony anyway, so it doesn't change much. It was like when Nintendo bought Next Level Games, who said they were making exclusive games for Nintendo before the buyout anyway. It just solidified it.

However, Microsoft was smart for buying Bethesda, and they will put their games on Xbox, PC, and mobile devices. So you'll have plenty of options. Besides, gaming is a luxury, not a right. I think I'll have to keep repeating that on this board tbh. Gamers are not entitled to have every game on every platform. It can be something they WANT for the future, and there's nothing wrong with a wish list. Though when they start acting like they're entitled or owed that, it gets silly.

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@luxuryheart said:Besides, gaming is a luxury, not a right. I think I'll have to keep repeating that on this board tbh. Gamers are not entitled to have every game on every platform. It can be something they WANT for the future, and there's nothing wrong with a wish list. Though when they start acting like they're entitled or owed that, it gets silly.

And I will repeat on this board, that wanting a game on a platform is not entitlement and gaming being a luxury has no relevance to the conversation.

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#116 LuxuryHeart
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@Pedro said:
@luxuryheart said:Besides, gaming is a luxury, not a right. I think I'll have to keep repeating that on this board tbh. Gamers are not entitled to have every game on every platform. It can be something they WANT for the future, and there's nothing wrong with a wish list. Though when they start acting like they're entitled or owed that, it gets silly.

And I will repeat on this board, that wanting a game on a platform is not entitlement and gaming being a luxury has no relevance to the conversation.

When people complain and go on rants about it, it gets very annoying. I'm going to be honest and say it, forum gamers are some of the most entitled and annoying hobbyists ever. No cap, if I were a game developer, I would've blown my brains out long ago. I don't know how they can deal with y'all.

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#117 tdkmillsy
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So who is butthurt today?

ROFL to a major fail of a thread.

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#118 Casey-Wegner
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OP is wrong about everything.

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#119 lamprey263
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No cryptic secret Kojima project, no Bluepoint deal, seems Sony fans are grasping at whatever they can to keep their hopes up. Best news they can get is the ability to double dip on Ghost of Tsushima, for $70 this time. 🤣 "WinStation"

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lol at people not seeing what Bluepoint has on offer. Literally one of the better tech wizards in the industry, but people are still having trouble seeing it🤭

Port and remaster wizards. I keep looking at their Wikipedia page to see what I missed. Collections, ports and remasters.

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#121 dabear
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@wonderwinner: More like "Acquisitions are cool when Sony does it!"

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#122 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol at people not seeing what Bluepoint has on offer. Literally one of the better tech wizards in the industry, but people are still having trouble seeing it🤭

Port and remaster wizards. I keep looking at their Wikipedia page to see what I missed. Collections, ports and remasters.

Because that's what they specialized in? What's the issue? Kena dev used to create cinematics from what i've heard, and now they're building a masterpiece. Don't be surprised if the game after the innevitable MGS1 remake by Bluepoint, their next title is an original IP that will destroy anything 343i is capable off of.

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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol at people not seeing what Bluepoint has on offer. Literally one of the better tech wizards in the industry, but people are still having trouble seeing it🤭

Port and remaster wizards. I keep looking at their Wikipedia page to see what I missed. Collections, ports and remasters.

Because that's what they specialized in? What's the issue? Kena dev used to create cinematics from what i've heard, and now they're building a masterpiece. Don't be surprised if the game after the innevitable MGS1 remake by Bluepoint, their next title is an original IP that will destroy anything 343i is capable off of.

There is no issue, but if that's what they specialise in, they're simply nothing special.

How do you know their next orginal IP will even be good? Do they even have much in the way of talent? And I'm not talking about in caparison to anyone. But as a developer of original content. It's one thing to remaster other peoples work, but to make your own...

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#124 HalcyonScarlet
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@mesome713 said:

Microsoft buying big AAA companies, meanwhile Sony buying indie studios who release flops.

You're right, FromSoftware did a great job. But they seem to have a Bluepoint on their ass.

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#125 HalcyonScarlet
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@id_mew said:
@mesome713 said:

Microsoft buying big AAA companies, meanwhile Sony buying indie studios who release flops.

So Returnal and Demon's Souls are flops?

Those are two games that provide true next gen experiences and they both scored over 80 on Metacritic.

What did Microsoft release so far?

How is Demon Souls a next gen experience, when it's a 7th gen game with prettier graphics. :-S

Next gen look, but not next gen experience.

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#126  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@wonderwinner said:

Lmao, people are actually damage controlling this acquisition because they made remasters, remakes and ports? This is scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Lems, you can do better.

🤣

Na, you got this the wrong way around. There's nothing to damage control. No one cares about this acquisition because they make remasters, remakes and ports.

You guys made a thread on SWs to boast about something literally no one else cares about.

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#127 hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol at people not seeing what Bluepoint has on offer. Literally one of the better tech wizards in the industry, but people are still having trouble seeing it🤭

Port and remaster wizards. I keep looking at their Wikipedia page to see what I missed. Collections, ports and remasters.

Because that's what they specialized in? What's the issue? Kena dev used to create cinematics from what i've heard, and now they're building a masterpiece. Don't be surprised if the game after the innevitable MGS1 remake by Bluepoint, their next title is an original IP that will destroy anything 343i is capable off of.

There is no issue, but if that's what they specialise in, they're simply nothing special.

How do you know their next orginal IP will even be good? Do they even have much in the way of talent? And I'm not talking about in caparison to anyone. But as a developer of original content. It's one thing to remaster other peoples work, but to make your own...

Because you can clearly tell they're passionate at what they're doing. Have you see the interview they've given to DF when Demon's launched? That is not some random developer trying to release as many games as possible just to fill their pockets with cash. Plus, its not like the team will stay as they were. If they're making an original IP, i am pretty sure they'll be hiring a writer and whatever they need, since we don't really know what they have. And their in-house engine is amazing. One of the best around. Can only imagine how incredible it looks with full RT.

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#128 HalcyonScarlet
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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

lol at people not seeing what Bluepoint has on offer. Literally one of the better tech wizards in the industry, but people are still having trouble seeing it🤭

Port and remaster wizards. I keep looking at their Wikipedia page to see what I missed. Collections, ports and remasters.

Because that's what they specialized in? What's the issue? Kena dev used to create cinematics from what i've heard, and now they're building a masterpiece. Don't be surprised if the game after the innevitable MGS1 remake by Bluepoint, their next title is an original IP that will destroy anything 343i is capable off of.

There is no issue, but if that's what they specialise in, they're simply nothing special.

How do you know their next orginal IP will even be good? Do they even have much in the way of talent? And I'm not talking about in caparison to anyone. But as a developer of original content. It's one thing to remaster other peoples work, but to make your own...

Because you can clearly tell they're passionate at what they're doing. Have you see the interview they've given to DF when Demon's launched? That is not some random developer trying to release as many games as possible just to fill their pockets with cash. Plus, its not like the team will stay as they were. If they're making an original IP, i am pretty sure they'll be hiring a writer and whatever they need, since we don't really know what they have. And their in-house engine is amazing. One of the best around. Can only imagine how incredible it looks with full RT.

Having passion just gets you to a base level. It doesn't mean you're stand out. It certainly doesn't mean a developer will make good original game.

Double Helix Games aren't exactly a great developer. They're passionate though and with the right person at the helm they can do great work, for example, with Ken Lobb and Killer Instinct Season 1.

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@mesome713 said:

Microsoft buying big AAA companies, meanwhile Sony buying indie studios who release flops.

Just stop it is sad the way you post. First and foremost you are bragging about a remastered game and that is sad. It is not some new great game but an old game made to look better. That alone should be embarrassing since you are making it the peak of Sony games considering it is nothing but an old game made to look better

Since you are not actually a gamer but a paid shill for Sony you may not know this but Fallout 76 was not made by the main Bethesda team. It is also actually a very good game now. You could have picked any of the Zenimax titles like Doom, Skyrim, or whatever but went the deceitful way.

It just shows how horrible the state of PS5 is in when a person that lives to white knight for Sony his best defense is a remastered old game vs the lowest Zenimax game he could find.

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#130  Edited By hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Because that's what they specialized in? What's the issue? Kena dev used to create cinematics from what i've heard, and now they're building a masterpiece. Don't be surprised if the game after the innevitable MGS1 remake by Bluepoint, their next title is an original IP that will destroy anything 343i is capable off of.

There is no issue, but if that's what they specialise in, they're simply nothing special.

How do you know their next orginal IP will even be good? Do they even have much in the way of talent? And I'm not talking about in caparison to anyone. But as a developer of original content. It's one thing to remaster other peoples work, but to make your own...

Because you can clearly tell they're passionate at what they're doing. Have you see the interview they've given to DF when Demon's launched? That is not some random developer trying to release as many games as possible just to fill their pockets with cash. Plus, its not like the team will stay as they were. If they're making an original IP, i am pretty sure they'll be hiring a writer and whatever they need, since we don't really know what they have. And their in-house engine is amazing. One of the best around. Can only imagine how incredible it looks with full RT.

Having passion just gets you to a base level. It doesn't mean you're stand out. It certainly doesn't mean a developer will make good original game.

Double Helix Games aren't exactly a great developer. They're passionate though and with the right person at the helm they can do great work, for example, with Ken Lobb and Killer Instinct Season 1.

Passion is the energy, now they just need someone to lead them with a vision. What makes you think Sony is not gonna find a person like that? Its not Sony games that fail, look at the scores.

And btw, there's way more things that made Killer Instinct good than you might think or know. Suggest you watch this from 1:00:00.

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@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Because that's what they specialized in? What's the issue? Kena dev used to create cinematics from what i've heard, and now they're building a masterpiece. Don't be surprised if the game after the innevitable MGS1 remake by Bluepoint, their next title is an original IP that will destroy anything 343i is capable off of.

There is no issue, but if that's what they specialise in, they're simply nothing special.

How do you know their next orginal IP will even be good? Do they even have much in the way of talent? And I'm not talking about in caparison to anyone. But as a developer of original content. It's one thing to remaster other peoples work, but to make your own...

Because you can clearly tell they're passionate at what they're doing. Have you see the interview they've given to DF when Demon's launched? That is not some random developer trying to release as many games as possible just to fill their pockets with cash. Plus, its not like the team will stay as they were. If they're making an original IP, i am pretty sure they'll be hiring a writer and whatever they need, since we don't really know what they have. And their in-house engine is amazing. One of the best around. Can only imagine how incredible it looks with full RT.

Having passion just gets you to a base level. It doesn't mean you're stand out. It certainly doesn't mean a developer will make good original game.

Double Helix Games aren't exactly a great developer. They're passionate though and with the right person at the helm they can do great work, for example, with Ken Lobb and Killer Instinct Season 1.

Passion is the energy, now they just need someone to lead them with a vision. What makes you think Sony is not gonna find a person like that? Its not Sony games that fail, look at the scores.

But that's not the point. What will happen, is not what is happening. And there could be some trial and error there. They could well be great and then there's something to boast about.

If you guys said, they could make some good original content and your happy Sony bought them, that's one thing.

But cows here are trying to boast about them. Housemarque has earned that. That's real talent, it's undeniable. But I'm sorry, Bluepoint don't deserve to be considered at that same level. It's more like "oh, that's a good acquisition, makes sense for Sony".

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#132  Edited By hardwenzen
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:
@hardwenzen said:

Because you can clearly tell they're passionate at what they're doing. Have you see the interview they've given to DF when Demon's launched? That is not some random developer trying to release as many games as possible just to fill their pockets with cash. Plus, its not like the team will stay as they were. If they're making an original IP, i am pretty sure they'll be hiring a writer and whatever they need, since we don't really know what they have. And their in-house engine is amazing. One of the best around. Can only imagine how incredible it looks with full RT.

Having passion just gets you to a base level. It doesn't mean you're stand out. It certainly doesn't mean a developer will make good original game.

Double Helix Games aren't exactly a great developer. They're passionate though and with the right person at the helm they can do great work, for example, with Ken Lobb and Killer Instinct Season 1.

Passion is the energy, now they just need someone to lead them with a vision. What makes you think Sony is not gonna find a person like that? Its not Sony games that fail, look at the scores.

But that's not the point. What will happen, is not what is happening. And there could be some trial and error there. They could well be great and then there's something to boast about.

If you guys said, they could make some good original content and your happy Sony bought them, that's one thing.

But cows here are trying to boast about them. Housemarque has earned that. That's real talent, it's undeniable. But I'm sorry, Bluepoint don't deserve to be considered at that same level. It's more like "oh, that's a good acquisition, makes sense for Sony".

Hosemarque were in charge of creating original ips. Bluepoint was in charge of remaking (best remakes in gaming, mind you). We don't even know what are the plans for Bluepoint at this very moment. They might not even be in charge of creating new ips, and instead, stick to what they're known for. Its not like Sony is missing on IPs. Over half a year ago, i've suggested Sony to grab Bluepoint to do one thing and one thing only. And that's testing the waters with their old franchises. Bluepoint creates a remake of an old franchise (Jak n Daxter for example), Sony checks the sales/gamers interest, and if it did well, they can greenlight the series to be rebooted. This is the best way to see if people still care about their older franchises without spending a ton of money that will be required for a brand new title or a complete reboot of the series.

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Poo Heil68....

lololol :P

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#134  Edited By NathanDrakeSwag
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@CanYouDiglt said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@mesome713 said:

Microsoft buying big AAA companies, meanwhile Sony buying indie studios who release flops.

Just stop it is sad the way you post. First and foremost you are bragging about a remastered game and that is sad. It is not some new great game but an old game made to look better. That alone should be embarrassing since you are making it the peak of Sony games considering it is nothing but an old game made to look better

Since you are not actually a gamer but a paid shill for Sony you may not know this but Fallout 76 was not made by the main Bethesda team. It is also actually a very good game now. You could have picked any of the Zenimax titles like Doom, Skyrim, or whatever but went the deceitful way.

It just shows how horrible the state of PS5 is in when a person that lives to white knight for Sony his best defense is a remastered old game vs the lowest Zenimax game he could find.

What's sad is your wall of text damage control over screenshots of MC scores lmao. You're seething right now.

And I have no reason to be biased when my PC literally shits all over your weak ass XSX that can't even run Flight Sim at 60fps on low settings. You'll have to forgive me for not jerking off over the possibility of Microsoft having a worthwhile lineup in 5+ years like you and your fellow lemming alts do. I like to live in the present and right now Sony's first party is the one delivering all the bangers. It's a shame you're broke and can't afford multiple platforms so you are forced to miss out on amazing Sony exclusives.

And the reason I compared it to Fallout 76 is because that is the most recent Bethesda RPG. Lol at your pathetic conspiracy theories, shill.

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#135 regnaston
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@CanYouDiglt said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@mesome713 said:

Microsoft buying big AAA companies, meanwhile Sony buying indie studios who release flops.

Just stop it is sad the way you post. First and foremost you are bragging about a remastered game and that is sad. It is not some new great game but an old game made to look better. That alone should be embarrassing since you are making it the peak of Sony games considering it is nothing but an old game made to look better

Since you are not actually a gamer but a paid shill for Sony you may not know this but Fallout 76 was not made by the main Bethesda team. It is also actually a very good game now. You could have picked any of the Zenimax titles like Doom, Skyrim, or whatever but went the deceitful way.

It just shows how horrible the state of PS5 is in when a person that lives to white knight for Sony his best defense is a remastered old game vs the lowest Zenimax game he could find.

What's sad is your wall of text damage control over screenshots of MC scores lmao. You're seething right now.

And I have no reason to be biased when my PC literally shits all over your weak ass XSX that can't even run Flight Sim at 60fps on low settings. You'll have to forgive me for not jerking off over the possibility of Microsoft having a worthwhile lineup in 5+ years like you and your fellow lemming alts do. I like to live in the present and right now Sony's first party is the one delivering all the bangers. It's a shame you're broke and can't afford multiple platforms so you are forced to miss out on amazing Sony exclusives.

And the reason I compared it to Fallout 76 is because that is the most recent Bethesda RPG. Lol at your pathetic conspiracy theories, shill.

Good to know you have access to FS for the XBOX already and know how it performs

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#136  Edited By id_mew
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@HalcyonScarlet said:
@id_mew said:
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Microsoft buying big AAA companies, meanwhile Sony buying indie studios who release flops.

So Returnal and Demon's Souls are flops?

Those are two games that provide true next gen experiences and they both scored over 80 on Metacritic.

What did Microsoft release so far?

How is Demon Souls a next gen experience, when it's a 7th gen game with prettier graphics. :-S

Next gen look, but not next gen experience.

I don't think you played the game.

The visuals, combined with the sound and the Dualsense controller and the instant load times provides something special that's only experienced on PS5.

To me that's next gen experience witch wasn't possible on last gen.

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@regnaston: it is factual that FS will run at 30fps on XSX.

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#138 regnaston
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@wonderwinner said:

@regnaston: it is factual that FS will run at 30fps on XSX.

"low settings" was the part he was talking out his ass about

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#139 SolidGame_basic
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https://www.gamesradar.com/playstation-bluepoint-games-acquisition-will-reportedly-be-announced-at-its-next-show/

Oh snap!