Blu-Ray & HD DVD - what is the fuss???

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#1 Luckybet3
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Okay so many websites and fans are tracking the sales of both formats and claiming victory for every sales figure advantage each week but is it really that big a deal?

Ok I have seen both format and admit that both look sharp and great. However with the speed of the boradband getting faster surely downloads are going to be so much bigger than these new formats anyway?

The PS3 is supposed to be around for 10 years - I can't see BluRay or HDDVD suceeding when downloading a film/TV program will soon enough be so easy and cheap that it will be the norm.

No matter how cheap the HD DVD and Blu Ray ends up, the lack of overheads, packaging physical format and logistics will make them obsolete compared to downloads.

The PS3 has some great potential games coming up but at the moment it really is lacking. Buying it because of Blu Ray just seems like a bit of an empty reason - esepcially when Sony will also be offering downloads soon.

Surely the console war will be reduced to a comparison of games - things like Blu Ray and HD DVD is just a load of fuss over nothing!

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Well, i dont understand why everyone loves blueray and Hd-dvd ! You seriously don't think the graphics are good enough at standard dvd's ? Then you have one of these problems :

1. A crappy tv

2.A crappy Dvd player

3. You are a graphic whore, and you will never be satisfied.

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Downloading HD movies with HD sound (such as available on HD-DVD and Bluray) sounds like a great idea but for the masses it's simply not. These movies with their audio can take anywhere from 20GB to a massive 60GB (two disc Pirates feature). The time of downloading these films and the storage requirements will be huge. A modest 30 movie collection will take nearly 600GB of storage. That's quite a bit just for movies. It's a nice niche market, but not feasible for a mass distribution.
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Okay so many websites and fans are tracking the sales of both formats and claiming victory for every sales figure advantage each week but is it really that big a deal?

Ok I have seen both format and admit that both look sharp and great. However with the speed of the boradband getting faster surely downloads are going to be so much bigger than these new formats anyway?

The PS3 is supposed to be around for 10 years - I can't see BluRay or HDDVD suceeding when downloading a film/TV program will soon enough be so easy and cheap that it will be the norm.

No matter how cheap the HD DVD and Blu Ray ends up, the lack of overheads, packaging physical format and logistics will make them obsolete compared to downloads.

The PS3 has some great potential games coming up but at the moment it really is lacking. Buying it because of Blu Ray just seems like a bit of an empty reason - esepcially when Sony will also be offering downloads soon.

Surely the console war will be reduced to a comparison of games - things like Blu Ray and HD DVD is just a load of fuss over nothing!

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not everyone has the internet and id rather have a hard copy than a downloaded rental, i like to keep movies because i never know when i will want to watch them again.
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Downloading HD movies with HD sound (such as available on HD-DVD and Bluray) sounds like a great idea but for the masses it's simply not.  These movies with their audio can take anywhere from 20GB to a massive 60GB (two disc Pirates feature).  The time of downloading these films and the storage requirements will be huge.  A modest 30 movie collection will take nearly 600GB of storage.  That's quite a bit just for movies.  It's a nice niche market, but feasible for a mass distribution.ramey70
Totally see your point Ramey but the cost per GB for hard drives are constantly dropping and becoming more affordable. In terms of the time it takes to download, surely it would take as much time to go out and buy the film/program anyway but from the comfort of your own home! It must be more of a feasible idea otherwise we wouldn't see so many established companies (not just MS and SOny) jumping on board this medium. We have seen Apple entering the download market and also most of the broadband providers (in the UK, I don't know about the rest of the world) and also television channels such as ITV and BBC and CHL4 in the UK doing the same. I just think that it is becoming obvious that downloading is going to make both HD DVD and Blu Ray a small issue and therefore not really a big factor (or advantage) in the console war.
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There is still a significant number of people in the world that use dial up.
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Downloading HD movies with HD sound (such as available on HD-DVD and Bluray) sounds like a great idea but for the masses it's simply not. These movies with their audio can take anywhere from 20GB to a massive 60GB (two disc Pirates feature). The time of downloading these films and the storage requirements will be huge. A modest 30 movie collection will take nearly 600GB of storage. That's quite a bit just for movies. It's a nice niche market, but not feasible for a mass distribution.ramey70
Look at it this way back in the 1990s pc Hard drives at the most where 10-20gb and they dident fit DVD lol and now we got 500gb-1terabyte drives which will fit hundreds of hours of dvds so by the time Bluray/HD DVD becomes as big as current DVD im sure there will be that 10-20 terabytedrives within 5 years i would say i wouldent worry about storeing HD DISKs in the future cause our future looks bright on Storage!
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For us technology minded people it seems like an easy proposition. Upgrade our HDD, connect our computers to our TVs, and download movies over the internet. Run out of space, simply get another large HDD. Tranfser the movies over and start again. But you're going to have to convince older people in the 30+ range who aren't as technologically savy as we are to adopt that way of thinking. The idea of convincing people they need HDTV's and HD movies is hard enough, and then you want to go a major step forward and convince them that in order to watch these types of movies they will have to connect their computers to their TV's and download the movies from the internet will be a tall order.
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You also need to remember that even the age of MP3's, iTunes, and easily downloadable music that CD's still account for 85% of music sales.  And now you want to use that method for movies?
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             You are correct sir - DL is the near future with loads of HDD space at economical prices - No B.R. or HD-DVD needed.;)

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For us technology minded people it seems like an easy proposition. Upgrade our HDD, connect our computers to our TVs, and download movies over the internet. Run out of space, simply get another large HDD. Tranfser the movies over and start again. But you're going to have to convince older people in the 30+ range who aren't as technologically savy as we are to adopt that way of thinking. The idea of convincing people they need HDTV's and HD movies is hard enough, and then you want to go a major step forward and convince them that in order to watch these types of movies they will have to connect their computers to their TV's and download the movies from the internet will be a tall order. ramey70
30+!!! Hey what you saying, I am nearly there!!! lol no i take your point but at the same time more and more people in the older generations have grown up using computers, internet etc. INternet use around the world is exploding and broadband is available to so many parts of the world. I just can't see how HD DVD and Blu Ray is going to be viable when I could just download what I need from the net via a 360 of PS3.
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#12 Kreean
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Downloadable HD-Movies will be the future! But the future is not now.
Normal people still want to own a hard copy and don't have unlimited download capacities.
For the next 10years it will be BR or HD-DVD, we will see at the end of the year.
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#13 Kreean
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@ Luckybet3

And how fast will you download them?

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@ Luckybet3

And how fast will you download them?

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If I may reply, Less time money and effort than buying B.R. , going to the store, standing in line , driving home, opening up the package ect. ect. ;)
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#15 Kreean
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I doubt that. How fast can you download a HD Movie?