Blu-ray sales represented 17% of the home video market

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#1 gerard-williams
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This is pretty massive news really as at one stage it didnt even have 5% of the market, blu-ray is the real deal and it's hear to stay and eventually take the place of dvd, the next xbox will have a blu-ray player and by that time blu-ray will have finally overtaken the old dvds in marketshare

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=2357

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For the revolutionary new piece of media storage... that isn't impressive. Considering DVD would be controlling the other 83%.
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#3 krp008
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Who cares. I cant even tell the difference after watching it for awhile. Its no big deal
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#4 chikenfriedrice
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I really enjoy Bluray movies...I hope it's here to stay

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I bought dark knight on blu ray last week, looks phenomenal

btw blu ray is selling faster in its first years than dvd

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Who cares. I cant even tell the difference after watching it for awhile. Its no big dealkrp008

yeah, and unfortunately for Blu-Ray, you seem to be in the majority. While I find it hard to understand (given my admitted bias for all things home theater)it seems that only videophiles/audiophiles can tell the difference. More work ahead for the BR folks, I'm afraid.

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#7 BuryMe
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Wow. It's not even one fifth of the market. That doesn't sound too impressive to me...

And what does that have to do with systemwars?

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For the revolutionary new piece of media storage... that isn't impressive. Considering DVD would be controlling the other 83%.foxhound_fox
the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing fine
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the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing fineGiancar

Bluray was supposed to replace DVD as soon as it came out. Blu-ray is only a marginal increase in technology over DVD. DVD over VHS was a jump between analogue and digital. By the time the market is "HD ready" there will be a new and much better piece of media storage waiting to take the market by storm.
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[QUOTE="krp008"]Who cares. I cant even tell the difference after watching it for awhile. Its no big dealWardCleaver02

yeah, and unfortunately for Blu-Ray, you seem to be in the majority. While I find it hard to understand (given my admitted bias for all things home theater)it seems that only videophiles/audiophiles can tell the difference. More work ahead for the BR folks, I'm afraid.

i think a good bluray transfer like transformers is a massive difference, unless you have a cheap tv, you should be able to tell a difference. Most people i know can tell a difference it's just older people who are happy with copied dvd movies. that can't tell. superbowl hd vs sd no contest, hd was way better.
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#11 Giancar
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing finefoxhound_fox

Bluray was supposed to replace DVD as soon as it came out. Blu-ray is only a marginal increase in technology over DVD. DVD over VHS was a jump between analogue and digital. By the time the market is "HD ready" there will be a new and much better piece of media storage waiting to take the market by storm.

As you said VHS to DVD was a higher jump and the total conversion lasted around 5 years...Blu Ray won't replace DVD in 1 or 2 years, it is a large proccess, and the capacity of Blu Ray movies is increasing at an awesome rate (there are 200 gb Blu Rays)...So I think the format will do great this years, and with more hdtvs in peoples houses sales and market will increase for the format
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For those people that are comparing BD sales of now to the DVD of the past are very mistaken. Of course BD is going to have better sales than DVD did back in the day. It was a complete formate switch from VHS to DVD of course people were hesitant, and the fact that LaserDisc was a total failure people really weren't buying the disc hype.

It's much eaiser to go out and get BD player which also plays DVD especially now that the price is cheaper, but those VHS DVD combo things were expensive back in the day. Even if BD fails you still have a player that will read DVD and probably upconverts it as well. The only thing you losing money on is the difference in price between a decent upconvert DVD player and BD player and the cost of the movies you bought. So it's a little easier for people to make that switch, BUT they are not and if the BD sales do not pick up movie Co are not going to see the profit in releasing a film on BD if it's not selling like it's DVD counter part.

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[QUOTE="Giancar"]the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing finefoxhound_fox

Bluray was supposed to replace DVD as soon as it came out. Blu-ray is only a marginal increase in technology over DVD. DVD over VHS was a jump between analogue and digital. By the time the market is "HD ready" there will be a new and much better piece of media storage waiting to take the market by storm.

i don't know about that especially in the uk, hd is really starting to take off, pretty much everything is going hd, sky hd (tv service) has dropped the hd box to £50 to get people on board. Blurays have dropped to 14 so that put's them pretty much in line with new dvd releases. I'm not sure a new media format would be benificial for a while, i think blurays can go up to like 150gb or more, so we won't be looking at 1tb disk for a while. That'd be like a 2 day film with 3000x2400 resolution.

A format that will take an age to become mainstream if at all, will be the new 3d sets. Not ones were you wear glasses but the philips one, that's amazing. Convincing tv and movie studios to adopt it will be quite a task.

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For the revolutionary new piece of media storage... that isn't impressive. Considering DVD would be controlling the other 83%.foxhound_fox
And I wonder if they need to watch out for DD sneaking up behind them... But yeah, of course BR will replace DVD eventually. Once the standalone players hit $100 and your local video store has 50/50 stock of DVD/BR movies, DVD will officially go the way of the VHS.
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]For the revolutionary new piece of media storage... that isn't impressive. Considering DVD would be controlling the other 83%.Giancar
the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing fine

I'm not sure if that's a fair comparison though:

The DVD-Video format was introduced first, in 1996, in Japan, to the United States in March 1997 (Test Marketed)[5], and mid-late 1998 in Europe and Australia.

source: Wikipedia

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By the time the market is "HD ready" there will be a new and much better piece of media storage waiting to take the market by storm.foxhound_fox

Like what?

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What does this have to do with game consoles?
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing finefoxhound_fox

Bluray was supposed to replace DVD as soon as it came out. Blu-ray is only a marginal increase in technology over DVD. DVD over VHS was a jump between analogue and digital. By the time the market is "HD ready" there will be a new and much better piece of media storage waiting to take the market by storm.

It's already here: The HDD Digital online distribution FTW!!!
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#19 Giancar
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What does this have to do with game consoles? rybe1025
you've got a point... still a goo discussion though
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#20 McdonaIdsGuy
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Well good for blu-ray but this is system wars no format wars.
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[QUOTE="Giancar"]the DVD was launched around 1996 and y really got popular around 2000-2001...Let me search the link,,, Blu Ray is doing finefoxhound_fox

Bluray was supposed to replace DVD as soon as it came out. Blu-ray is only a marginal increase in technology over DVD. DVD over VHS was a jump between analogue and digital. By the time the market is "HD ready" there will be a new and much better piece of media storage waiting to take the market by storm.

No one in their right mind expected BD to replace DVD as soon as it came out. Notice how long for DVD to full phase out VHS? BD will replace DVD once it becomes cheaper. They've done enough marketing for it but in this economy right now no one is forking over the $$$ for HD when SD does a good enough job at the right price.

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#22 FatalDomain
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Sorry to be the killjoy of the group but posting information from a pro-BD site does not make the information valid.

The site you posted is not the official Blu-ray Association website and on the official site it does not mention anything about increased market penetration.

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/bluray_site.htm

What you posted is about as reliable as vgchartz, pure fanboy (Blu-ray fanboyism) dribble.

Game On...

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[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"][QUOTE="WardCleaver02"]

Who cares. I cant even tell the difference after watching it for awhile. Its no big dealkrp008

yeah, and unfortunately for Blu-Ray, you seem to be in the majority. While I find it hard to understand (given my admitted bias for all things home theater)it seems that only videophiles/audiophiles can tell the difference. More work ahead for the BR folks, I'm afraid.

i think a good bluray transfer like transformers is a massive difference, unless you have a cheap tv, you should be able to tell a difference. Most people i know can tell a difference it's just older people who are happy with copied dvd movies. that can't tell. superbowl hd vs sd no contest, hd was way better.

I'd just like to add that there's definitely a difference. There was a display at BB of kung-fu panda. Same TV models, however one was playing an upscaled DVD and the other was playing blu-ray. Being able to compare the pictures side by side really put things into perspective. Blu-ray = much clearer unless you have major impaired vision.
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For the revolutionary new piece of media storage... that isn't impressive. Considering DVD would be controlling the other 83%.foxhound_fox
Are you serious. DVD in no way pulled that off within its first two years. Heck most people don't even realize that DVD launched well before the PS2 launched. Blu ray managed to pull this off while battling a direct oppenent for the HD format and then during an economic crisis and the cheaper Blu ray players are still around 300 dollars. Next year when you have them getting closer to the 100 mark things will be even better. I am not sure how anybody can say this isn't impressive, what other format has done better that you are comparing it to?
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]What does this have to do with game consoles? Giancar
you've got a point... still a goo discussion though

It has a lot to do with PS3 sales over all...Many people like my father bought the PS3 because it is a cheap blu ray player. Then would have bought games for it to if they did not have a son to borrow them from. Then they brag because they have the better controller.
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#26 Fusible
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I bought dark knight on blu ray last week, looks phenomenal

btw blu ray is selling faster in its first years than dvd

GTR_FX
Not even close.
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Who cares. I cant even tell the difference after watching it for awhile. Its no big dealkrp008

are you watching with you eyes closed?

i dont know how people dont see a difference... must be the TV or something.

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#28 jharv
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[QUOTE="krp008"]Who cares. I cant even tell the difference after watching it for awhile. Its no big dealogvampire

are you watching with you eyes closed?

i dont know how people dont see a difference... must be the TV or something.

Must be. Try watching it on a 1080P 120Hz TV.
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#29 JunkTrap
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[QUOTE="Fusible"][QUOTE="GTR_FX"]

I bought dark knight on blu ray last week, looks phenomenal

btw blu ray is selling faster in its first years than dvd

Not even close.

"In general, Blu-ray is growing faster than DVD. The installed user base of Blu-ray players, at an estimated 2.5 million, is at least double what DVD was at the same point in its life cycle. And that doesn't include the roughly 8 million PlayStation 3 video-game systems that also are capable of playing the high-def discs." http://www.startribune.com/entertainment/tv/36410579.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aUUsr
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#30 Teuf_
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This is not format wars. Keep the discussion about games and systems, please.

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#31 nocoolnamejim
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Hello all. I'm locking this because it isn't really pertinent to System Wars any longer. HD-DVD is dead. Bluray won. No real need to debate on this any longer. Discussions about whether or not PS3 having Bluray and 360 not having it is a competitive advantage = on-topic for this forum. Discussions about Bluray's success or lack thereof in the market = off-topic for this forum