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#51 darkmagician06
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Hmmm...br0kenrabbit
hmmm too bad the PS3 has a 2x blu-ray drive

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/1/17/6658

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#52 legendbyname
Member since 2007 • 361 Posts

in some cases uncompressed data is faster to read (uncharted), but this is not my point at all. 

I just wanted to present a common misconception about blu-ray drives. The 12x dvd9 drive is a lot of time not faster than the 2x blu-ray drive. Which is how the media and this forum are spinning it.

sorry if i came off as a jerk, i respect your views. I still don't know if i think blu-ray is a better medium for games, i guess only time will tell

 thank you 

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#53 br0kenrabbit
Member since 2004 • 18123 Posts

are you kidding?????????? hahaha you have fallen so low now

did'nt you realize that chart is against a DVD5?

fail.

legendbyname
No, that's DVD9 in a 12x drive.
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#54 legendbyname
Member since 2007 • 361 Posts

no it isnt. its a single layer DVD9 = DVD5

you think i havent seen that chart before? i didn't make this up 

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#55 br0kenrabbit
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[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"] Hmmm...darkmagician06

hmmm too bad the PS3 has a 2x blu-ray drive

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/1/17/6658

I was about to post that link. Excerpt: Said Bethesda's Todd Howard, "Drive speed matters more to me [than total capacity], and Blu-ray is slower."
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#56 KAS3Y_JAM3Z
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[QUOTE="Nonam3gamer"]

Did you honestly just site a Ps3 site as proof that the Ps3 is more powerful?

naughtydog360



cant face the truth buddy ? comming up with anything just to denie it ?

come back when you can spell "deny"....

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#57 naughtydog360
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Fact: HDD Pwns Blueray & Dvd9

Fact: Sony has HDD standerd for the PS3

Fact : Xbox360 doesnt, because of Xbox core

If you did not understand, in other words PS3 should read data 15 times faster than Xbox360 because of the combination of Blue-ray and a HARDDISK both Steaming data into the ram at the same time :)

PORTS DONT COUNT BECAUSE THEY DONT USE THE ADVANTAGES!!

50 Gig Vs 9 gig

Fact: the more You compressed your data, the slower it gets

Fact: uncompressed data is faster to read

Seems like i gota make some Xbox fans remember why Blue ray is needed

1- GTA got some content cutting because 9 Gigs werent ENOUGH

2- PGR reported the same problem :)

3- Other developers saying the same thing

KEEP THIS IN YOUR HEAD,DVD9 Loses 2 Gigs of DATA because of Microsoft DRM 9 Gigs = 7 Gigs :)

7 gig ( Dvd9 ) Vs 49 Gig (Blue ray )

MAJOR FACT Blue ray is more resistant to Scraches, dvd9 is just like every other CD. I have tons of old CD's alot have tons of Scraches and some dont even play. They do get scrached very easily, but the Blueray just makes life easier :)

to Prove my Point

WALA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ

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#58 gohan2710
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yet no devs have used the 49 gbs the blue ray disc offers (HS 6 to 7 hours long) :?
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#59 DoctorBunny
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Fact: HDD Pwns Blueray & Dvd9

Fact: Sony has HDD standerd for the PS3

Fact : Xbox360 doesnt, because of Xbox core

If you did not understand, in other words PS3 should read data 15 times faster than Xbox360 because of the combination of Blue-ray and a HARDDISK both Steaming data into the ram at the same time :)

PORTS DONT COUNT BECAUSE THEY DONT USE THE ADVANTAGES!!

50 Gig Vs 9 gig

Fact: the more You compressed your data, the slower it gets

Fact: uncompressed data is faster to read

Seems like i gota make some Xbox fans remember why Blue ray is needed

1- GTA got some content cutting because 9 Gigs werent ENOUGH

2- PGR reported the same problem :)

3- Other developers saying the same thing

KEEP THIS IN YOUR HEAD,DVD9 Loses 2 Gigs of DATA because of Microsoft DRM 9 Gigs = 7 Gigs :)

7 gig ( Dvd9 ) Vs 49 Gig (Blue ray )

MAJOR FACT Blue ray is more resistant to Scraches, dvd9 is just like every other CD. I have tons of old CD's alot have tons of Scraches and some dont even play. They do get scrached very easily, but the Blueray just makes life easier :)

to Prove my Point

WALA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEbZt6AIQ

naughtydog360

Are you in damage control 24/7. it seems like i t

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#60 VACASCULIADAS
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[QUOTE="Nonam3gamer"]

Did you honestly just site a Ps3 site as proof that the Ps3 is more powerful?

naughtydog360


cant face the truth buddy ? comming up with anything just to denie it ?



what truth? that's yet to be seen..
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#61 naughtydog360
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Are you in damage control 24/7. it seems like i t

DoctorBunny

Nope, just saying the Truth ? truth hurts ? :D

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#62 imprezawrx500
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not to mention dvds are written from the outside in i believe. starting an app isnt really great proof. different machines have different protocols they go through, doesnt mean slower loading. An in-game comparison with considerable differences would be better. for instance the ps3 shows its logo before it even opens the game where as the 360 does not.

but none of this even matters the 360 loads great i understand, just saying the ps3 isnt as slow as people think.

legendbyname

wrong inside out. look at the bottom of a dvd you have burnt and you will see. anyway the 360s 12x dvd drive is a joke, there were 18x drives out when it came out and 16x drives were standard a year before the 360 came out

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#63 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="legendbyname"]

oh sorry i forgot my source try this site.

www.google.com

and that is not a real life comparison. its on youtube, you believe everything you see on there?

Pelon208

deal with it, DVD9 loads faster.

deal with it 50GB is better than 9 GB

deal with it hdd gets the best of both

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#64 BrooklynBomber
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I have both the 360 and ps3 and the ps3 loads faster after you install part or all of the game also I upgraded my ps3's hard drive to a 7200rpm drive and now there is no loading to speak of.

If you don't install the game then yeah on some games the ps3 is slower but why would you not it does not take long at all.

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#65 naughtydog360
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I have both the 360 and ps3 and the ps3 loads faster after you install part or all of the game also I upgraded my ps3's hard drive to a 7200rpm drive and now there is no loading to speak of.

If you don't install the game then yeah on some games the ps3 is slower but why would you not it does not take long at all.

BrooklynBomber

do you notice alot of speed improvements after upgrading the HDD to 7200 rpm ? :o

just wondring how much faster ?

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#66 LosDaddie
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KEEP THIS IN YOUR HEAD,DVD9 Loses 2 Gigs of DATA because of Microsoft DRM 9 Gigs = 7 Gigs :)

naughtydog360

I'd love to see some proof of this

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#67 imprezawrx500
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[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"]

I have both the 360 and ps3 and the ps3 loads faster after you install part or all of the game also I upgraded my ps3's hard drive to a 7200rpm drive and now there is no loading to speak of.

If you don't install the game then yeah on some games the ps3 is slower but why would you not it does not take long at all.

naughtydog360

do you notice alot of speed improvements after upgrading the HDD to 7200 rpm ? :o

just wondring how much faster ?

way way faster, well the desktop ones anyway. A laptop will still be loading windows when the desktop is loading the game if you turn them both on at the same time

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#68 Nagidar
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Bluray read speeds ARE faster than DVD, BUT, the 12x DVD drive in the 360 reads faster than the 2x BD drive in the PS3, if the PS3 had a 12x drive, it would load ALOT faster than the 360.