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#51 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="odin2019"]seems like a pretty interesting game. Never heard of it till this thread. It looks creative but as for how good of game it really it I can't comment on that since I have not played it and don't know much about it.SolidTy

Download the Demo, it's 2D Mario meets Blinx Time powers (Or Prince of Persia)...My problem with it is I feel $10 is too much for some of these games (After a month I rarely go back, especially if I got 200GS in them), but I'm willing to stretch out and pay it. This game is $15, which irks me. I'd glady pay that though IF I could just spend $15, which I cannot.

Yes, you can.

Head on over to Zune.net or load up the Zune software (if you have it) and sign into your Windows Live account (which you should have since you have a 360 and a Live account). There, you can buy points in increments of 400, 1200, 2000 and 4000. I've even seen the 1200 point cards in stores.

So, when will you be downloading Braid? I mean, you shouldn't have a problem now.. :)

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#52 krp008
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I played the demo and it was pretty simple, mindless, and boring... Dont see what all the fuss is about
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Dont know the req in order to pur a game on XBLA but is it any harder than the other systems like Wii or PS3? or EasierMemoryitis

XBLA has restrictions. most 360 owners own a 20gig system. MS doesnt want games to flood and take up al the hdd space so they have restrictions on devs (kind of like the reason sony doesnt want to put up ps2 games for dlc, because most systems cant run them).;

however on psn, there are fully downloadable games like socom (coming october), warhawk and gt5:prologue. because ps3 systems have the 20, 40, 60, 80 gig standard (most ppl i noticed have the 80 gig), and its easy to install a new one for cheap

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[QUOTE="Memoryitis"]Dont know the req in order to pur a game on XBLA but is it any harder than the other systems like Wii or PS3? or Easieriesexywarden

XBLA has restrictions. most 360 owners own a 20gig system. MS doesnt want games to flood and take up al the hdd space so they have restrictions on devs (kind of like the reason sony doesnt want to put up ps2 games for dlc, because most systems cant run them).;

however on psn, there are fully downloadable games like socom (coming october), warhawk and gt5:prologue. because ps3 systems have the 20, 40, 60, 80 gig standard (most ppl i noticed have the 80 gig), and its easy to install a new one for cheap

You make some good points..but the game in question is not close to the MAX allowed by MS...so it moots out..If the developer wanted to put more polish on the game..he could have..the size limits MS puts on arcade games should not have stopped him..

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[QUOTE="Memoryitis"]Dont know the req in order to pur a game on XBLA but is it any harder than the other systems like Wii or PS3? or Easieriesexywarden

XBLA has restrictions. most 360 owners own a 20gig system. MS doesnt want games to flood and take up al the hdd space so they have restrictions on devs (kind of like the reason sony doesnt want to put up ps2 games for dlc, because most systems cant run them).;

however on psn, there are fully downloadable games like socom (coming october), warhawk and gt5:prologue. because ps3 systems have the 20, 40, 60, 80 gig standard (most ppl i noticed have the 80 gig), and its easy to install a new one for cheap

This is a terrible point you are trying to make.

I have a 20 gig hdd and I manage my space.

I can download an arcade play it and then deleted. if I want to play it again , I simply dl it again at no cost of course.

This dude needs to get with the times, no else is **** about this, just this dude, his game got great reviews and he's bringing a negative vibe to his game. Lame.

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#56 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="odin2019"]seems like a pretty interesting game. Never heard of it till this thread. It looks creative but as for how good of game it really it I can't comment on that since I have not played it and don't know much about it.The_Game21x

Download the Demo, it's 2D Mario meets Blinx Time powers (Or Prince of Persia)...My problem with it is I feel $10 is too much for some of these games (After a month I rarely go back, especially if I got 200GS in them), but I'm willing to stretch out and pay it. This game is $15, which irks me. I'd glady pay that though IF I could just spend $15, which I cannot.

Yes, you can.

Head on over to Zune.net or load up the Zune software (if you have it) and sign into your Windows Live account (which you should have since you have a 360 and a Live account). There, you can buy points in increments of 400, 1200, 2000 and 4000. I've even seen the 1200 point cards in stores.

So, when will you be downloading Braid? I mean, you shouldn't have a problem now.. :)

This is interesting. I'm going to pursue this, and see where it leads. Thanks for the heads up. :)

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#57 SolidTy
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[QUOTE="iesexywarden"]

[QUOTE="Memoryitis"]Dont know the req in order to pur a game on XBLA but is it any harder than the other systems like Wii or PS3? or Easier-Ninja_Dog-

XBLA has restrictions. most 360 owners own a 20gig system. MS doesnt want games to flood and take up al the hdd space so they have restrictions on devs (kind of like the reason sony doesnt want to put up ps2 games for dlc, because most systems cant run them).;

however on psn, there are fully downloadable games like socom (coming october), warhawk and gt5:prologue. because ps3 systems have the 20, 40, 60, 80 gig standard (most ppl i noticed have the 80 gig), and its easy to install a new one for cheap

This is a terrible point you are trying to make.

I have a 20 gig hdd and I manage my space.

I can download an arcade play it and then deleted. if I want to play it again , I simply dl it again at no cost of course.

This dude needs to get with the times, no else is **** about this, just this dude, his game got great reviews and he's bringing a negative vibe to his game. Lame.

Maybe you're right, perhaps this Dude should get with the times. However, Requiring or asking us to DELETE GAMES WE PURCHASED is lame. It was LAME when the Nintendo lady at E3 suggested it, and it is still a lame idea.

Perhaps you're right about this fellow complaints, perhaps not. Madmen would say that "ANY PUBLICITY at all is good publicity", so who knows.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="lordxymor"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) The game is still on Live.

2.) He has no plans to put it anywhere else.

deal with it.

jonnyt61

In correct. In his blog he announces the PC version and possible PSN version if Sony is interested(which they probably are given the reviews).

Yea, I meant PSN when I typed that. I know it's coming to PC eventually. But I have not seen any mention of putting it on PSN. Got a link?

Link for you

You should be careful before stating something as fact if you've not done any research.

You speak as though I hadn't read that and didn't already know you'd reference it.

It doesn't say he'll do it "If sony is interested". it says it "may" happen.

"Maybe" does not qualify as a fact. Maybe you should make sure something is a fact before telling someone to make sure they need to do research into the facts.

"Maybe" does not mean he has plans to do it. At BEST, he may be thinking about it. "Maybe" is not and never will be confrimation, fact or quottable proof.

Fair?

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#59 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) The game is still on Live.

2.) He has no plans to put it on PSN.

deal with it.

iesexywarden

dev said, YES HE SAID, that he wants to put it on the ps3 after the exclusive contract is done with MS.

NOTE: he didnt say "other systems" HE SAID PS3..

Want =/= WILL or "I plan to."

Link me to something wehre he says "I am putting this game on the PS3." All I've seen is that he said he ***may*** put it on the PS3. which again, isn't any kind of confrimation.

He may...he may not. who knows.

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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="lordxymor"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) The game is still on Live.

2.) He has no plans to put it anywhere else.

deal with it.

Dreams-Visions

In correct. In his blog he announces the PC version and possible PSN version if Sony is interested(which they probably are given the reviews).

Yea, I meant PSN when I typed that. I know it's coming to PC eventually. But I have not seen any mention of putting it on PSN. Got a link?

Link for you

You should be careful before stating something as fact if you've not done any research.

You speak as though I hadn't read that and didn't already know you'd reference it.

It doesn't say he'll do it "If sony is interested". it says it "may" happen.

"Maybe" does not qualify as a fact. Maybe you should make sure something is a fact before telling someone to make sure they need to do research into the facts.

"Maybe" does not mean he has plans to do it. At BEST, he may be thinking about it. "Maybe" is not and never will be confrimation, fact or quottable proof.

Fair?

So, it's not No or Yes....The official word is, wait for it, "maybe".

Well, I don't plan on waiting around when I can play it now.

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#61 Memoryitis
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[QUOTE="Memoryitis"]Dont know the req in order to pur a game on XBLA but is it any harder than the other systems like Wii or PS3? or Easieriesexywarden

XBLA has restrictions. most 360 owners own a 20gig system. MS doesnt want games to flood and take up al the hdd space so they have restrictions on devs (kind of like the reason sony doesnt want to put up ps2 games for dlc, because most systems cant run them).;

however on psn, there are fully downloadable games like socom (coming october), warhawk and gt5:prologue. because ps3 systems have the 20, 40, 60, 80 gig standard (most ppl i noticed have the 80 gig), and its easy to install a new one for cheap

Well then this is pretty bad for XBLA because if Microsoft wants to keep games with low memory then games will never be at their full potential and instead devs will have to find ways to cut back which = lower quality games, so technically the perfect place to start developing games would be on PSN

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it will be on psn in due time
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soon as the exclusive contract is up it will come to ps3 no doubt about itbigLLL


How it will come if the contract is up :roll: ?
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The demo doesn't give enough of a taste of the full game thus not making it compelling enough for people to spend $15 on it. Since I am not poor I don't have an excuse not to buy it... so I bought it earlier tonight and am still only about halfway through the puzzles with only harder ones ahead of me. It really is a fantastic game that will definitely make those not inclined to patience and creativity very frustrated very quickly.

It is beautiful and unique, I only wish some of those puzzles weren't as hard... >_>
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[QUOTE="whackedjob213"]you need to put something in the topic of your own opinion. But ya XBLA is overly restrictive with size.SolidTy

Well, it's all DUE TO THE LACK OF HDD. M$ want's to sell these games to Memory card holders...It's a shame too. That's why games like Warhawk, SOCOM, and Ratchet:Booty aren't on XBLA (Games of that size...I know those are 1st party games). The lack of HDD's, and the fact that there are FAR too many 20gigs out there.

Yet, you can download original Xbox games, that are much larger, to your HDD. Sony needs the space on their HDD because of all the mandatory installs.

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[QUOTE="odin2019"]seems like a pretty interesting game. Never heard of it till this thread. It looks creative but as for how good of game it really it I can't comment on that since I have not played it and don't know much about it.SolidTy

Download the Demo, it's 2D Mario meets Blinx Time powers (Or Prince of Persia)...My problem with it is I feel $10 is too much for some of these games (After a month I rarely go back, especially if I got 200GS in them), but I'm willing to stretch out and pay it. This game is $15, which irks me. I'd glady pay that though IF I could just spend $15, which I cannot.

The full game is more than that. Each World has it's own spin and time is only the basic feature. Also the way time is used should not be compared to PoP or Blinx. Only reason it's compared to mario is because it's a 2D side Scroller and uses the Princess Line. Nothing Like Mario apart from that.
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="lordxymor"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

1.) The game is still on Live.

2.) He has no plans to put it anywhere else.

deal with it.

Dreams-Visions

In correct. In his blog he announces the PC version and possible PSN version if Sony is interested(which they probably are given the reviews).

Yea, I meant PSN when I typed that. I know it's coming to PC eventually. But I have not seen any mention of putting it on PSN. Got a link?

Link for you

You should be careful before stating something as fact if you've not done any research.

You speak as though I hadn't read that and didn't already know you'd reference it.

It doesn't say he'll do it "If sony is interested". it says it "may" happen.

"Maybe" does not qualify as a fact. Maybe you should make sure something is a fact before telling someone to make sure they need to do research into the facts.

"Maybe" does not mean he has plans to do it. At BEST, he may be thinking about it. "Maybe" is not and never will be confrimation, fact or quottable proof.

Fair?

The point is, you stated it as FACT that it wasn't coming. I'm sorry, but I posted a link, proving that creator is considering putting it on PSN

While not a confirmation, it's certainly looking very good for the PSN getting it.

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Wow. Talk about cows blowing things waaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

"They didn't try to dictate the game design, as many publishers might—they were very hands-off there, and what is in the final game is exactly what I wanted to put there," the designer added. "They also bent a lot of XBLA rules, in order to help me make the game the way I wanted, which was pretty cool of them... For the most part, working with Microsoft has been great."

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54120

It's obvious that cows and maybe sheep just hear what they want to hear, but you guys at least need to fight fair.

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The point is, you stated it as FACT that it wasn't coming. I'm sorry, but I posted a link, proving that creator is considering putting it on PSN

While not a confirmation, it's certainly looking very good for the PSN getting it.jonnyt61

He also said that it would have to wait until late 2009/early 2010 for him to consider it.

The funniest thing is, he went to Sony first and they didn't want it.

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I will buy this game the second it drops to 800points ($10)...it is rediculously priced. I wish XBox Live was like PSN, where I could DL it if a friend DL'ed it.

The Demo was okay.

I heard it's coming to PSN next year, hopefully it will only be $10.

Sorry to hear he won't be making much if anything at all, but you can't start at the top in the gaming industry.

Ah well.

SolidTy
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#72 Grive
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The point is, you stated it as FACT that it wasn't coming. I'm sorry, but I posted a link, proving that creator is considering putting it on PSN

While not a confirmation, it's certainly looking very good for the PSN getting it.

jonnyt61

Incorrect.

"Has no plans" = There currently isn't a release plan. Does not mean "it's not coming".

English wants to be your friend.

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I will buy this game the second it drops to 800points ($10)...it is rediculously priced. I wish XBox Live was like PSN, where I could DL it if a friend DL'ed it.

The Demo was okay.

I heard it's coming to PSN next year, hopefully it will only be $10.

Sorry to hear he won't be making much if anything at all, but you can't start at the top in the gaming industry.

Ah well.

SolidTy

umm... M$ ****** him over dude..... a lot of people won't get the game cause its $15. and M$ will prolly take like.... 51% of the shares of the game. so the maker will get next to nothing..

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="odin2019"]seems like a pretty interesting game. Never heard of it till this thread. It looks creative but as for how good of game it really it I can't comment on that since I have not played it and don't know much about it.waynehead895

Download the Demo, it's 2D Mario meets Blinx Time powers (Or Prince of Persia)...My problem with it is I feel $10 is too much for some of these games (After a month I rarely go back, especially if I got 200GS in them), but I'm willing to stretch out and pay it. This game is $15, which irks me. I'd glady pay that though IF I could just spend $15, which I cannot.

The full game is more than that. Each World has it's own spin and time is only the basic feature. Also the way time is used should not be compared to PoP or Blinx. Only reason it's compared to mario is because it's a 2D side Scroller and uses the Princess Line. Nothing Like Mario apart from that.

GOOMBA'S !!!!

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This guy loves whining about MS doesn't he?

Why not put it on PSN, WiiWare or PC if XBLA wasn't good enough? Or would that make too much sense for him?
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#76 jlh47
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well the game did kinda suck...

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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I will buy this game the second it drops to 800points ($10)...it is rediculously priced. I wish XBox Live was like PSN, where I could DL it if a friend DL'ed it.

The Demo was okay.

I heard it's coming to PSN next year, hopefully it will only be $10.

Sorry to hear he won't be making much if anything at all, but you can't start at the top in the gaming industry.

Ah well.

Virus214

umm... M$ ****** him over dude..... a lot of people won't get the game cause its $15. and M$ will prolly take like.... 51% of the shares of the game. so the maker will get next to nothing..

Come on now...This whole post is speculation to an extreme..Where does he say MS "pulled one over" on him.....then to go as far as forecast sales..and lastly 51% goes to MS...where did you find any of this info?

A contract is drafted well before any development begins..all the details are laid out and both parties agreed...

This is no different than buying a car....settling on a price/form of payment. Signing a contract....THEN complaining about the monthly payment a two months later..Who's fault is that?? The dealers??..

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the games is too expensive
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#80 WardCleaver02
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[QUOTE="Virus214"][QUOTE="SolidTy"]

I will buy this game the second it drops to 800points ($10)...it is rediculously priced. I wish XBox Live was like PSN, where I could DL it if a friend DL'ed it.

The Demo was okay.

I heard it's coming to PSN next year, hopefully it will only be $10.

Sorry to hear he won't be making much if anything at all, but you can't start at the top in the gaming industry.

Ah well.

masiisam

umm... M$ ****** him over dude..... a lot of people won't get the game cause its $15. and M$ will prolly take like.... 51% of the shares of the game. so the maker will get next to nothing..

Come on now...This whole post is speculation to an extreme..Where does he say MS "pulled one over" on him.....then to go as far as forecast sales..and lastly 51% goes to MS...where did you find any of this info?

A contract is drafted well before any development begins..all the details are laid out and both parties agreed...

This is no different than buying a car....settling on a price/form of payment. Signing a contract....THEN complaining about the monthly payment a two months later..Who's fault is that?? The dealers??..

Careful. Using logic as no place here. ;)