Braid is without a doubt the best 2D platformer this gen so far. Braid> Mario

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#51 too_much_eslim
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Wario > BraidSER69
when did wario come out?
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#52 110million
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[QUOTE="SER69"]Wario > Braidtoo_much_eslim
when did wario come out?

Last week! Well anyway, Wario looks good graphically and animation wise, but the gameplay looks pretty mediocre, so its pretty ironic for sheep to hype it, like the ones who hype conduit.

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#53 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]well The only standout mario 2D platformer this gen was NSMB and that if i'm being honest was a huge dissapointment.too_much_eslim
really? I thought NSMB was quite good for a handheld game. I enjoyed it.

it held zero challenge.
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#54 SER69
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[QUOTE="SER69"]Wario > Braidtoo_much_eslim
when did wario come out?

July 24
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#55 flazzle
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Last week! Well anyway, Wario looks good graphically and animation wise, but the gameplay looks pretty mediocre, so its pretty ironic for sheep to hype it, like the ones who hype conduit.

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Its a 2D platformer. Whats the gameplay supposed to look like?

And why is it ironic that the same sheep hype Wario also hype Conduit? Where is the irony? maybe i'm missing it.

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#56 yellowandmushy
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I already have N+... I don't need more :cry:foxhound_fox
Yes you do. The actual platforming aspects aren't as good as N+ or NSMB or really any platformer. But the amount of genius in the game is almost unmatched.
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#57 NickJC1
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Why must we do this every few months?, Why must be proclaim something as the best ever. I tried to like Braid after all the glowing Eurogamer and CVG reviews, but after playing teh demo I'm left wondering what they're smoking. It's a three hour game, with nice music, nice graphics, gameplay is ok but I can see myself getting bored of this game in a day or two.

Please don't compare a posh (indy) Amiga style game to Mario. It's not in the same league. Please stop with all the hype for average games, I'm kinda sick of it.

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#58 T3h_M3tal_Biggz
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I loved the mario game on the DS, but this game is amazing. The puzzles and the level design is so creative. I am just playing the trial demo and I can't get enough of it.

It is so charming. However this is clearly a mario clone with amazing twists to it. If your a fan of 2 D platformers and a fan of mario games I truly urge you to check this out on XBLA.

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#59 pyromaniac223
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Nah best 2d platformer ever is I wanna be the guy.
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#60 Dreams-Visions
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Why must we do this every few months?, Why must be proclaim something as the best ever. I tried to like Braid after all the glowing Eurogamer and CVG reviews, but after playing teh demo I'm left wondering what they're smoking. It's a three hour game, with nice music, nice graphics, gameplay is ok but I can see myself getting bored of this game in a day or two.

Please don't compare a posh (indy) Amiga style game to Mario. It's not in the same league. Please stop with all the hype for average games, I'm kinda sick of it.

NickJC1

in 8 posts, you've found yourself sick of System Wars daily routine.

I don't think you'll like it here.

Wait...how do you know we do this "every few months"?

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Crash Commando will pwn you all :)
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#62 TimeToPartyHard
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Wait. Trial demo? That's all? *slap* You. Don't post for the rest of the day.
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sooooooooooo the TC says in the first post that he only has the demo of braid. Then goes onto say its better then any wii game so far.....A DEMO! :|

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#64 110million
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[QUOTE="110million"]

Last week! Well anyway, Wario looks good graphically and animation wise, but the gameplay looks pretty mediocre, so its pretty ironic for sheep to hype it, like the ones who hype conduit.

flazzle

Its a 2D platformer. Whats the gameplay supposed to look like?

And why is it ironic that the same sheep hype Wario also hype Conduit? Where is the irony? maybe i'm missing it.

Conduit was meant to be a seprate example, another game that gets most, or all, of its hype from graphics. On the wario side, there isn't much gameplay wise that coulden't be done on DS other then very simple wag controls.

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#65 T3h_M3tal_Biggz
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Crash Commando will pwn you all :)1xcalibur1

Crash Commando is a clone of UT2D.:?

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Glad I'm not the only one to notice that, for as far as Ninty fans go out of their way to talk down graphics, the second a game comes to the Wii that may actually not look half bad, they go CRAZY over it based on that alone. Remember all the hype Red steel got based on a few early pre-rendered bullshots? It looked nohting like it, but when the Nintendo fans thought it would, they went insane and hyped it to the moon. (it ended up sucking)

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#67 flazzle
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[QUOTE="NickJC1"]

Why must we do this every few months?, Why must be proclaim something as the best ever. I tried to like Braid after all the glowing Eurogamer and CVG reviews, but after playing teh demo I'm left wondering what they're smoking. It's a three hour game, with nice music, nice graphics, gameplay is ok but I can see myself getting bored of this game in a day or two.

Please don't compare a posh (indy) Amiga style game to Mario. It's not in the same league. Please stop with all the hype for average games, I'm kinda sick of it.

Dreams-Visions

in 8 posts, you've found yourself sick of System Wars daily routine.

I don't think you'll like it here.

Wait...how do you know we do this "every few months"?

Awaiting the "Urm...I'm a lurker" response...

But anyway, it's system wars. And people always say stuff is the best or stuff sucks. It's pointless, but don't take it personal.

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#68 flazzle
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[QUOTE="flazzle"][QUOTE="110million"]

Last week! Well anyway, Wario looks good graphically and animation wise, but the gameplay looks pretty mediocre, so its pretty ironic for sheep to hype it, like the ones who hype conduit.

110million

Its a 2D platformer. Whats the gameplay supposed to look like?

And why is it ironic that the same sheep hype Wario also hype Conduit? Where is the irony? maybe i'm missing it.

Conduit was meant to be a seprate example, another game that gets most, or all, of its hype from graphics. On the wario side, there isn't much gameplay wise that coulden't be done on DS other then very simple wag controls.

Gotcha! Yeah, Conduit I'm more interested in the final result just to see if it lives up to the hype. Doubt it. But if the gameplay sucks and graphics are steller, i'm not touching it.

With 2D platformers, IMO, there should be simples controls. I think Nintendo sometimes does a good job of using wag controls just enough. SMG, SPM, and strikers for example. They don't feel tacked on (at least to me) and is actuall quite convenient.

I'm just glad to see a 2D platformer on the new system.

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#69 Duckyindiana
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Played the trial and loved it will have to wait till payday before i can gat it!
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Glad I'm not the only one to notice that, for as far as Ninty fans go out of their way to talk down graphics, the second a game comes to the Wii that may actually not look half bad, they go CRAZY over it based on that alone. Remember all the hype Red steel got based on a few early pre-rendered bullshots? It looked nohting like it, but when the Nintendo fans thought it would, they went insane and hyped it to the moon. (it ended up sucking)

CronoSquall

welcome to the hypocrisy of SW ;)

dont forget that cows and lemmings dont talk about sales.... but when the ps3 outsells the 360 or vice versa there sure are alot of threads about it.

also, you must have just started gaming this gen or something cause you obviously forgot about last gen:

cows last gen: who cares about graphics, look at our sales

sheeps this gen: who cares about graphics, look at our sales

lemmings: its gonna be a close 2nd place again (nothing changed)

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#71 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="NickJC1"]

Why must we do this every few months?, Why must be proclaim something as the best ever. I tried to like Braid after all the glowing Eurogamer and CVG reviews, but after playing teh demo I'm left wondering what they're smoking. It's a three hour game, with nice music, nice graphics, gameplay is ok but I can see myself getting bored of this game in a day or two.

Please don't compare a posh (indy) Amiga style game to Mario. It's not in the same league. Please stop with all the hype for average games, I'm kinda sick of it.

flazzle

in 8 posts, you've found yourself sick of System Wars daily routine.

I don't think you'll like it here.

Wait...how do you know we do this "every few months"?

Awaiting the "Urm...I'm a lurker" response...

But anyway, it's system wars. And people always say stuff is the best or stuff sucks. It's pointless, but don't take it personal.

indeed. I imagine someone would go crazy if they took this site seriously.
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#72 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="Kratos_OMEGA"]well The only standout mario 2D platformer this gen was NSMB and that if i'm being honest was a huge dissapointment.Dreams-Visions
really? I thought NSMB was quite good for a handheld game. I enjoyed it.

it held zero challenge.

while true it was a 2d platformer. I just like those better overall. There is just something about 2d platformers I like. Even so it is why I liked braid a lot more.
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#73 too_much_eslim
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sooooooooooo the TC says in the first post that he only has the demo of braid. Then goes onto say its better then any wii game so far.....A DEMO! :|

beerm_basic
Geez man way to take things out of context.
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#74 too_much_eslim
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Wait. Trial demo? That's all? *slap* You. Don't post for the rest of the day.TimeToPartyHard
no oney to play all of these awesome xbla games. waiting until Castle Crashers to finally come out and decide on which 2 or 3 games I can buy.
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#75 beerm_basic
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[QUOTE="mdisen"]Enjoy your 3 hour platformer.too_much_eslim
annnnnddddddd? Your point being. I have had more fun playing this game than I have for every wii game except mario Kart wii. ANd those cost 50 and this cost 15. Then when you ghave games like HS where you pay $60 for 6-7 hr of gameplay; I think I am doing alright.

a demo :|

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I will admit that Braid is pretty awesome.

Controlling time is pretty cool.

But quite honestly, it has nothing on the simplicity and charm of Mario.

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#77 speedsix
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Why are people comparing it to Mario, the main premise of the gameplay is nothing like Mario.
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#78 too_much_eslim
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[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="mdisen"]Enjoy your 3 hour platformer.beerm_basic

annnnnddddddd? Your point being. I have had more fun playing this game than I have for every wii game except mario Kart wii. ANd those cost 50 and this cost 15. Then when you ghave games like HS where you pay $60 for 6-7 hr of gameplay; I think I am doing alright.

a demo :|

point. I enjoyed the demo then I have any other wii game. I only have a few like SMG, Brawl, and SPM. I rented Mario Kart Wii and I need to buy it.
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#79 too_much_eslim
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I will admit that Braid is pretty awesome.

Controlling time is pretty cool.

But quite honestly, it has nothing on the simplicity and charm of Mario.

verbtex
dud I wasn't really comparng it to Mario as a whole. Just better than NSMB on DS.
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#80 WillieBeamish
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I will admit that Braid is pretty awesome.

Controlling time is pretty cool.

But quite honestly, it has nothing on the simplicity and charm of Mario.

verbtex

Actually, that is where Braid excels. Its quite, quite apparent that you haven't touched this game. This game even has a story that you WANT to know instead of the same rehashed garbage Nintendo has been feeding fanboys since the 80's.

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#81 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="too_much_eslim"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Braid and N+ are great, but they're both not as great as Super Mario Galaxy or New Super Mario Bros, sorry.too_much_eslim

SMG isn't a 2D platformer. NSMB is good, but it doesn't make me think like Braid does.

I understand that. We all like a challenge, but that doesn't make a game better.Much like echochrome. It's a great game, which makes your head hurt, but there are better puzzle games out there.

How so? It is why I can't stand most of the wii games due to lack of difficulty or challenge.

there is such a thing as a good easy game (okami, wind waker, SMG).

Not every single game needs to rely on difficulty in order to be enjoyable