Braveheart: PS4=English, XBX=Scottish, FREEDOM!!!!=D

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#1  Edited By Trinitarian
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This movie is the perfect example of what this generation console war between PS4 vs XB1 is like. The English far out numbered the Scotts, but the Scotts simply out smarted the English in key battles. Of course it was all thanks to William Wallace, or in our case Phil Spencer. XB will never fully conquer PS the same as the movie, but in every battle leading up to the show down, XB is bringing da pain.

Remember, the first fight? "No army has ever won... againts calvery..." (we'll act like those represent PS exclusives). The snobbism of the English thought they'd just run the Scotts over like grass. What does the Scotts do? Make long polls, which in my story are the fanstastic list of backwards compatibility games with free enhancements.

When the Scotts invaded lower England is akin to Microsofts ability to deliver the XBX, a console that is 40% stronger than the PS4 Pro. A large portion of third party, multiplat games are better than any exclusives the PS4 touts and now they perform better on XBX. We are in the middle of this gen, as that was in the movie when this decisive victory took place. Thus, all that talk prior to that point that Cows use to brag about the PS4s power and how 3rd party games where better on PS4 came to an end with its cut off head in a box. :]

Then we come to the point of facing off with the King of England. The point where we lose the numbers game. Sure, XB losses that battle since they're out numbered 2 to 1 on the field of battle or sales. Afterwords, Wallace turns around and starts eliminating every key figure it can or factor he can to weaken the cause of that outcome. The results in the story is that XB becomes more efficient with Gamepass. For a mere $10 bucks a month you'll get access to over $150 games plus all MS exclusives day one. The retail giants didn't appreciate their heads getting cut off but its better for the Scotland (the Xbots).

We all know how the story ends though. The PS4 King lays dieing in bed, thinking he's finally killed Microsoft. Then gets a whisper in his ear that there's been 144 million copies of Minecraft sold, some of which was on PS and that seed was not of his line but that of MICROSOFT. Yes, it's true. Not only does Microsoft have the best premium console in the market, but its also impregnated you beloved princess with its on seed and your pure royal line has ended. Upon hearing this the King dies, and well ya, your new king is his dear weak and delectate son.

On that final day, when you think we'll all swear loyalty to the new king, XBX rebels and bloodies the field with a army of console exclusives like PUBG, State of Decay 2 and Crack down as well as being on gamepass. On that day, the ScottxBots won their freedom, and they lived happly ever after.

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#2 Sgt_Crow
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Have you been smoking something?

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#3 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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This may possibly be the worst analogy I've ever seen. Well done

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#4  Edited By Trinitarian
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@Sgt_Crow: No, but I am a perma fry. I'm permanently F*ing rad, yo!

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What the hell is happening to this place?

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#6 Syn_Valence
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No this is the Alamo and the ps4 is the Mexican Army.

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#7 Trinitarian
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@toast_burner: Only if your the English being led by a tea cup, than sure i'd see how you'd feel that way =D

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#8  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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William Wallace technically only won a single battle, and like a true a Scotman, he cheated.

When the English were crossing Stirling Bridge, when about half had crossed he ordered his men to cut down and collapse the bridge effectively splitting the army in half. Then charged down, won.

At Falkirk he used a Shiltron, a giant form of spears in the shape of a hedgehog to make it impenetrable. "I have brought you to the ring, now dance for me", were his words. Unfortunately Edward was no idiot and had a new powerful weapon, the Longbow, which decimated them.

In reality Wallace was a blip in a much longer war popularized because he was only major player at a time who seemed to genuinely be fighting for his country and king (John Balliol) than his self-gain. And had managed to amass a following even though he was of lower status, than people owing debt to an overlord. At his trail, knowing he was basically about to be tortured and mutalated he refused to acknowledge Edward in the kangaroo court.

More of a romanticized idea than a good tactician. And by the standards of the time, probably would have done some pretty horrible shit, as that was the norm of war.

Also consoles.

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The unfortunate side of your analogy though is that Wallace was defeated, captured, then hung drawn and quartered by the English. You'd have been far better going with Robert the Bruce (he was far from the traitor the Gibson movie made him out to be), despite being beaten by the English on several occasions he kept trying and eventually won at the battle of Bannockburn in 1314, securing Scottish independence until the act of union was created by James VI (James I of England).

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#10  Edited By Trinitarian
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@GarGx1: Eh, thats tit for tat. The final battle I closed with was in fact in reference to the battle lead by Robert the Bruce. The problem with using analogys is they are never perfect and hence they are usually attacked by your opponents in finding weaknesses with the analogy rather than the themes its being used for to highlight. Case in point, the purpose of the analogy was to draw similarities between the war of the XB vs PS, if you were to boil it down to its essences was that although PS4 may boast significant numbers in sale, the response of the under dog MS has been very decieve and effective.

However, to my shame I also delight in seeing how my oppents argue the merit of the analoy instead of the points it raises or highlights. Besides, i'd hope most of us enjoy system wars for its entertaining value, rather than thinking we're actually fighting a real war here.

All in all, the entirity of the movie sums up Cows perfectly. They have the numbers and are powerful, yet when confronted by the underdog XB, their weaknesses on the battlefield are exposed as well as the fact they are in general a self inflated, self entitled and complacence group of people who are being led by a tea cup king who likes dressing up in the latest fashion rather than being an effective militarized king. The defeats they suffer in battle are do to complacence and lack of strategic thinking. Thus, with less resources, Microsoft has been doing more with much less by cutting down the pretenders and establishing victory after victory with impressive precision.

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#11 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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lol wut?

What are you on and where can I get some?

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@Trinitarian: Just saying it may have been better to use the person who was actually instrumental in Scotland's final victory over the English, rather than his predecessor who won a couple of battles but ultimately lost (unless of course you've resigned yourself to PS4 winning the generation). On an historical note though Robert the Bruce wasn't at the battle of Falkirk (the last battle in the movie), let alone on the side of the English.

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#13 Trinitarian
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@Vatusus: I'm on that XBX maaaaan, but i don't think you can handle it bro, it's hella strong and top shelf. But hey, there's that weaker synthetic crap you can buy called PS4. It's not as potent but at least its affordable ;/

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@Trinitarian: so how did you survive the last 4 years with a crappy system call xboxone and xboxone s that can barely do 900P?

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wow

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So who's alt is this?

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@Trinitarian said:

It's not as potent but at least its affordable ;/

Nah, it has games. I play games, not graphics

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@GarGx1: @GarGx1:Your right i forget at the very end of the movie it didnt actually show the battle were Robert the Bruce was supposed to pay homage to the King and receive his endorsement to become King of the Scotts. Thus, i suppose thats technically not the last battle in the movie, but it was the final battle i was referring to in my analogy. I assumed Robert the Bruce won that battle as well as its subsequent ones after that since they eventually fought for and won their independence.

Nevertheless, Robert the Bruce would make a good analogy but it wouldn't have the same effect. PS4 fans acts all high and mighty but they are being destroyed by what they view as savages. Besides, i'm not utilizing the entire historical facts of this event, rather just the Hollywood portrayal. PS4 cows are simply a bunch of tea cup fashion whores who are not blood thirsty savage gamers like Xbots, =D

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#19  Edited By Trinitarian
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@Vatusus: Well geez, I guess owning and playing over 300 games on my XBX doesn't count as games. Wow sir knight, how many games you own, thousands? Here I thought owning that many games on a system that allegedly has no games was still a respectable amount. Please enlightened me.

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@Trinitarian said:

@Vatusus: Well geez, I guess owning and playing over 300 games on my XBX doesn't count as games. Wow sir knight, how many games you own, thousands? Here I though own that many was a respectable amount. Please enlightened me.

Most those 300 games can be played on pretty much any other platform. Some of the best games of this generation cant be played on your precious xbox. Cry moar

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XBX = Scottish? Nah it's PC = Scottish (Freedom wise)

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#22 omegaMaster
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What the.... Have you been sniffing glue?

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#23  Edited By Trinitarian
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@ni6htmare01: Funny you should ask: i bought a PS4 thinking believing you cows that the performance and exclusives would make it worth owning both systems. However, the exclusives were boring to me and trying to play multiplates on that janky controller was not enjoyable. Plus, the multiplayer, dash bored interface and social aspects of online player games where almost vomit inducing compared to the quality I expect from MS.

Admittingly, I just made a tatical retreat from the system, acknowledging at the time the power of the PS4 had an edge. Then MS turns around and drops a H-bomb on that edge by providing an even more advantage in power by even higher margins. Thus, here we are again were power doesn't matter to cows...LMAO!

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#24  Edited By Trinitarian
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@Vatusus: I don't give two shats what platform they can be played on . Fact remains, I own all them on one console which is the best and most powerful of all time. If i bought a PS4 at this point it would be just for exclusives but i tried that and don't like them. What else you got?

Nothing. Simply because PS has nothing else better to offer than that. On the other hand MS kills it from there on out: 1) Gamepass, the greatest gaming rental service of all time 2) Elite controller, best controller ever made 3) XBX, most powerful console ever created 4) Backwards compatibility, playing and owning enhanced versions of games from all xbox eras (e.g., morrowind & RDR 4K) 5)Online, Best network of all time.

I'm at the point were I almost feel sorry for die hard cows. They are a broken record repeating the same words over and over, "but exclusives...but exclusives...but exclusives"

Here's my MAIN questions to you: What do you tell a person who actually tried your exclusives but didn't like them? AND in light of that question, Whats left is there to sale me on that XBX can't do head over heels better?....I'll be looking forward to your answers.

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#25 Trinitarian
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@gameofthering: no, you can't be in my movie Braveheart because then it'd have to be a sci-fi, where you come down as Aliens with superb technologies and blasters rifles. You'd just come in a kill everyone ruining my script, so get out of here no Aliens are welcome =D

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all I got to say is stay off the drugs kids.

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#27  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Trinitarian said:

What else you got?

Games. And no, you havent tried them. Your clear bias is clear. If you actually wanted the best graphics instead of games then you would game on PC, not on consoles

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@Vatusus: What a weak response from another broken record fanboy. I'm speaking from my own experience, PS4 exclusives suck and I wouldn't even buy them if they were on XB. You didn't even answer the real questions kid cause you know PS4 hasn't got anything better and is inferior in everyway.

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@Trinitarian said:

@GarGx1: @GarGx1:Your right i forget at the very end of the movie it didnt actually show the battle were Robert the Bruce was supposed to pay homage to the King and receive his endorsement to become King of the Scotts. Thus, i suppose thats technically not the last battle in the movie, but it was the final battle i was referring to in my analogy. I assumed Robert the Bruce won that battle as well as its subsequent ones after that since they eventually fought for and won their independence.

Nevertheless, Robert the Bruce would make a good analogy but it wouldn't have the same effect. PS4 fans acts all high and mighty but they are being destroyed by what they view as savages. Besides, i'm not utilizing the entire historical facts of this event, rather just the Hollywood portrayal. PS4 cows are simply a bunch of tea cup fashion whores who are not blood thirsty savage gamers like Xbots, =D

The Battle you are thinking off is Bannockburn fought in 1314, 9 years after William Wallace was executed. It's about 30 minutes from my house.

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This thread in a nutshell....

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@Trinitarian: Xbox in 2018? Omegalol.

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@Trinitarian: I love Braveheart. Great film and one of the first since Lawrence of Arabia to master large scale shit. But really? Robert the Bruce wasn't exactly the pussy he was made out to be anymore than Patton was the psycho he was made out to be in that film.

Creative license is a real thing and unfortunately people believe what the watch. Thats why in the states we have a President that while a candidate challenged the free press and intelligence community and now those same people are driving that guy crazy with their power. I don't know the end of the Russia investigation, but unlike Fox, Hannity and Trump I know it isn't over because they say so.

Xbox created their bed this gen. Is it a terrible bed? Hell no. I like my games on one box, not paying for upgrades to old games *blow2 me for TLOUr and SotCr*, whereas I get RDR 4k for no additional cost unless I CHOOSE to get a better piece of hardware like I did with my Pro.

But the market is speaking and Xbox needs to wise up. They have a more stable network, better longevity with MP games but their SP games have been meh. They did take risks unlike people say, but they didn't pan out. Well shit or get off the pot. Take more, with better teams or accept not being that realm. 2 cents shared.

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#34  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Trinitarian said:
@quadknight said:

This thread in a nutshell....

I didn't know we were posting family photos. Ah, that is so nice, your mom when she was pregnant with you. Tell me, what was it like growing up being a crack head baby?

Looks like I hit a sensitive spot.

? He's doing yo mama insults.

Lay off the crack son, and stop making shitty drug influenced threads.

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I expected something clever and funny; but that was a terrible analogy.

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@cainetao11: As I said down the line, the analogy was tied to the movie protrayal and not actual historical events. Anyway, MS have been bringing home the goods while PS4 isn't answering back with anything. At this point in time the PS4 and its players are like the prince of England walking around with his boyfriend having archery conest, trying on clothes in the mirror while a significant and underestimated threat is marching right up to his door step.

While his uncle's head is in a box and lower England was recently sacked, he still thinks of Wallace as a common brigan that a local magistrate can handle. That feminine type obliviousness, coming from the next king of England is the mindset of cows right now. By that I mean the cows are prancing around gawking at their pretty movie game all the while, MS is obliterating eveything outside their little castle of exclusives.

Hate to say it cows but your nothing more than that self inflated tea-cup prince prancing around your castle oblivious to the true events unfolding on the outside.

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PC = advanced alien civilization laughing at both.

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https://youtu.be/wKjxFJfcrcA

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#39  Edited By lamprey263
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"Freedom" is one of the most cringe worthy words after Mel Gibson and George Bush butchered it to death in less than a decade.

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@Trinitarian said:

@cainetao11: As I said down the line, the analogy was tied to the movie protrayal and not actual historical events. Anyway, MS have been bringing home the goods while PS4 isn't answering back with anything. At this point in time the PS4 and its players are like the prince of England walking around with his boyfriend having archery conest, trying on clothes in the mirror while a significant and underestimated threat is marching right up to his door step.

While his uncle's head is in a box and lower England was recently sacked, he still thinks of Wallace as a common brigan that a local magistrate can handle. That feminine type obliviousness, coming from the next king of England is the mindset of cows right now. By that I mean the cows are prancing around gawking at their pretty movie game all the while, MS is obliterating eveything outside their little castle of exclusives.

Hate to say it cows but your nothing more than that self inflated tea-cup prince prancing around your castle oblivious to the true events unfolding on the outside.

Ok, well I am a very feminine man and I am offended.............................

LMAO!!! I had to, dude!!! I get where you are coming from and Sony could eventually become ripe for a fall again if they don't recognize the fact that charging for access to MP and not supporting it in a meaningful way is a problem in the states eventually. People are short sighted at best so we'll be laughed at but if it continues it will bite them. I certainly am not paying for PSN+ again. Live is where I play with others.

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Lems are going crazy from the lack of games. What good is slightly more power if there isnt anything to play?

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Uh, that movie didn't go great for William Wallace

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#44  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Trinitarian said:

@Vatusus: What a weak response from another broken record fanboy. I'm speaking from my own experience, PS4 exclusives suck and I wouldn't even buy them if they were on XB.

Yes, I will believe such a bitter and obvious fanboy actually have played all the PS4 praised exclusives. Prove you've played them. Dont just say you did and provide sh*t for your claims

You didn't even answer the real questions kid cause you know PS4 hasn't got anything better and is inferior in everyway.

I actually did answer your question and my answer is still games. Games make the PS4 the superior platform and it isnt the bias "opinion" of some s****d fanboys who claim to "have played them" that will change that fact

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@Trinitarian said:

We all know how the story ends though. The PS4 King lays dieing in bed, thinking he's finally killed Microsoft. Then gets a whisper in his ear that there's been 144 million copies of Minecraft sold, some of which was on PS and that seed was not of his line but that of MICROSOFT. Yes, it's true. Not only does Microsoft have the best premium console in the market, but its also impregnated you beloved princess with its on seed and your pure royal line has ended. Upon hearing this the King dies, and well ya, your new king is his dear weak and delectate son.

On that final day, when you think we'll all swear loyalty to the new king, XBX rebels and bloodies the field with a army of console exclusives like PUBG, State of Decay 2 and Crack down as well as being on gamepass. On that day, the ScottxBots won their freedom, and they lived happly ever after.

Hahaha I haven't laughed this hard at a thread in a while. And this portion is just, wow.

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#46  Edited By Trinitarian
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@Sushiglutton said:
@Trinitarian said:

We all know how the story ends though. The PS4 King lays dieing in bed, thinking he's finally killed Microsoft. Then gets a whisper in his ear that there's been 144 million copies of Minecraft sold, some of which was on PS and that seed was not of his line but that of MICROSOFT. Yes, it's true. Not only does Microsoft have the best premium console in the market, but its also impregnated you beloved princess with its on seed and your pure royal line has ended. Upon hearing this the King dies, and well ya, your new king is his dear weak and delectate son.

On that final day, when you think we'll all swear loyalty to the new king, XBX rebels and bloodies the field with a army of console exclusives like PUBG, State of Decay 2 and Crack down as well as being on gamepass. On that day, the ScottxBots won their freedom, and they lived happly ever after.

Hahaha I haven't laughed this hard at a thread in a while. And this portion is just, wow.

At least someone here has a sense of humor =D

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#47 Trinitarian
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@Trinitarian said:

@Vatusus: What a weak response from another broken record fanboy. I'm speaking from my own experience, PS4 exclusives suck and I wouldn't even buy them if they were on XB.

Yes, I will believe such a bitter and obvious fanboy actually have played all the PS4 praised exclusives. Prove you've played them. Dont just say you did and provide sh*t for your claims

You didn't even answer the real questions kid cause you know PS4 hasn't got anything better and is inferior in everyway.

I actually did answer your question and my answer is still games. Games make the PS4 the superior platform and it isnt the bias "opinion" of some s****d fanboys who claim to "have played them" that will change that fact

Just another MoooOOOOOOoOoo from just another cow, but in this case one that has contracted mad cow disease. The disease has clearly affected your brain and thus is making you delusional. I can make no sense of your incoherent gibberish.

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#48 Sushiglutton
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@Trinitarian said:
@Sushiglutton said:
@Trinitarian said:

We all know how the story ends though. The PS4 King lays dieing in bed, thinking he's finally killed Microsoft. Then gets a whisper in his ear that there's been 144 million copies of Minecraft sold, some of which was on PS and that seed was not of his line but that of MICROSOFT. Yes, it's true. Not only does Microsoft have the best premium console in the market, but its also impregnated you beloved princess with its on seed and your pure royal line has ended. Upon hearing this the King dies, and well ya, your new king is his dear weak and delectate son.

On that final day, when you think we'll all swear loyalty to the new king, XBX rebels and bloodies the field with a army of console exclusives like PUBG, State of Decay 2 and Crack down as well as being on gamepass. On that day, the ScottxBots won their freedom, and they lived happly ever after.

Hahaha I haven't laughed this hard at a thread in a while. And this portion is just, wow.

At least someone here has a sense of humor =D

It was sooo stupid, but funny stupid :). Well done

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#49  Edited By BluFalconUltra
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@Sgt_Crow said:

Have you been smoking something?

This is what being an Xbox fanboy will do to you.

The proper analogy is PS4 being the Golden State Warriors and Xbox One being the Cavaliers from last years NBA finals. At this point anyone who thinks the Xbox is better than the PlayStation is missing a ton of brain cells. Let it go already fanboys, it's over. There are no system wars as the war is over.

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#50 DocSanchez
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This is the worst analogy I've ever heard. You should be ashamed of yourself.