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#1 Blabadon
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http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/bravely-second-end-layer-review/1900-6416406/

3DS continues to be shit, more at 11.

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#2 Basinboy
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Too early for bait; in need of coffee first

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#3 DJ-Lafleur
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It seems they fixed the biggest issue the first game had atleast, and that Bravely Second's second half won't be absolute trash.

Lame how they force you to side with s*** characters for the sake of getting a new job though. (maybe you can get the job later in the game without having to deal with that nonsense?)

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#4  Edited By iandizion713
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Looks good, ill have to try it out after i play Bravely Default. 3DS got too many good games, ill never catch up.

P.S. What was the hype score? Muahahahaha.

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#5 deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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I rate this thread 2/10. Lol Bladaflop

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#6 lamprey263
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As long as more than half the game isn't repeating the same section several times over and gameplay and story and presentation are on par with the last then I"ll be happy.

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#7 DJ-Lafleur
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Oh lord I remembered Ringabel was a character that actually existed in the first game.

Please tell me that he doesn't return in the second game, or if he does that he arleast gets brutally murdered at some point.

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#8 GreySeal9
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Braverly Second: End Layer is the worst title for a game I've ever seen.

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#9 Zen_Light
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7 is such a shit score...

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#10 freedomfreak
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@GreySeal9: Sounds like the finale of a gross cake eating competition

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#11 Zen_Light
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@GreySeal9 said:

Braverly Second: End Layer is the worst title for a game I've ever seen.

Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness.

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#12  Edited By Skelly34
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SAY IT WITH ME:

L O L V I T A

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#13  Edited By Chutebox
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@GreySeal9 said:

Braverly Second: End Layer is the worst title for a game I've ever seen.

Um,

Infinite Undiscovery

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#14  Edited By Ant_17
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Poor Writimg and Dialogue...Guess we can expect every JRPG by this guy a 7 or even less.

And Forced Plot Points? What does that mean?

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#15 Zen_Light
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@Ant_17 said:

Poor Writimg and Dialogue...Guess we can expect every JRPG by this guy a 7 or even less.

And Forced Plot Points? What does that mean?

Means "dang brah, I want to get back to the DZ in The Division, but they got me playing this long-assed weaboo game".

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#16 Jag85
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It has an 81 on Metacritic:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/3ds/bravely-second-end-layer

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#17 sHaDyCuBe321
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Where was the hype thread? Can't flop without a hype thread. If not, thread fail.

If so, LOLOLOL FLOP!!1!1'

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@skelly34 said:

SAY IT WITH ME:

L O L V I T A

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@charizard1605 will ban me if i repeat after you :P

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#19 Ant_17
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@Zen_Light said:
@Ant_17 said:

Poor Writimg and Dialogue...Guess we can expect every JRPG by this guy a 7 or even less.

And Forced Plot Points? What does that mean?

Means "dang brah, I want to get back to the DZ in The Division, but they got me playing this long-assed weaboo game".

I dought it, but those points feel like he was expecting Witcher 3 writing.

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#20  Edited By Shinobishyguy
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Must be thirsty to satiate your 3ds hate-boner because this game barely had any hype to begin with

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#21 kvally
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Damn flops everywhere

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#22 Legend002
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What's "laugh out loud" about games flopping? Shame on you.

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#23  Edited By finalstar2007
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@kvally said:

Damn flops everywhere

True that, nintendo and xbox are being hammered by flops everywhere all year long

meanwhile on playstation its one quality product after the other

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#24  Edited By Blabadon
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@Shinobishyguy: satiate a boner? Lolwut

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#25 Wiiboxstation
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@finalstar2007: those gems: the order, diveclub, knack, killzone.

#greatnessawaits

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#26  Edited By TheNDefender
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Salt and Sanctuary got an 8/10. By SW logics that's a flop too.

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#27 TrappedInABox91
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Blab is so salty how much the 3DS is better than the Vita, that he has to create a hype troll thread. Even though the game wasn't even hyped to begin with. The Vita is beyond dead bro. Deal.

It appears the one problem with the first game is corrected, so I'm happy, cause that a was drag.

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#28 mmmwksil
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@Legend002:
To be fair, this whole subseries had no right even existing beyond a single game what with the first one being a massive pile of sh*t. I'm just surprised people needed a second game to notice this.

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#29 hrt_rulz01
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It's so bizarre to me how someone can get enjoyment out of a game "flopping" and also creating a thread about it to bait people who might like it. Strange world... strange people.

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#30 Legend002
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@mmmwksil: How the **** does that make it "fair"?

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#31 Heil68
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I was going to get it, not now. I need 8+ on handheld games.

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@Chutebox said:
@GreySeal9 said:

Braverly Second: End Layer is the worst title for a game I've ever seen.

Um,

Infinite Undiscovery

Kingdom Hearts 358/2 days

Lets just say Japan + RPGs = terrible naming conventions.

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#33 kvally
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@finalstar2007: ps has had 3 flops in the past month so it must be contagious.

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#34  Edited By mmmwksil
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@Legend002:
It teaches Square-Enix the lesson that they actually have to put effort into their FF knock off products. Or that the first game's praise and "success" was pure luck (it was).

Regardless I'm content, as a poor outing will kill the series and force the company to put the money into something else. Preferably something that doesn't suck.

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#35 Legend002
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@mmmwksil: Have you not played any of the million sequels out there?

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#36 mmmwksil
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@Legend002:
News to me; I was under the impression Bravely Second was the second entry. Unless you're referring to the million FF sequels/knock offs. Those will never go away, but there's always the tiniest hope the next one won't suck.

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@Blabadon said:

@Shinobishyguy: satiate a boner? Lolwut

Shinooby, captain of the sinking ship HMS mixed metaphor.

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#38 Legend002
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@mmmwksil: It is... which also makes it a sequel.

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#39 Zen_Light
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@mmmwksil: You're just mad that this series clowns your beloved, yet tired FF franchise.

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#40 naughtyottsel
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Played it, finished it and loved it.

8.5/10 for me.

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#41 mmmwksil
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@Zen_Light said:

You're just mad that this series clowns your beloved, yet tired FF franchise.

..."beloved"?

Pro tip, friend: do your research before you make blatantly incorrect claims.

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#42 Zen_Light
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@mmmwksil said:
@Zen_Light said:

You're just mad that this series clowns your beloved, yet tired FF franchise.

..."beloved"?

Pro tip, friend: do your research before you make blatantly incorrect claims.

I'm relatively sure about 90% of your posts involve some discussion about FF. Out of what? 18 or so games in the franchise only a small number of them have been good games.

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#43 mmmwksil
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@Zen_Light said:

I'm relatively sure about 90% of your posts involve some discussion about FF. Out of what? 18 or so games in the franchise only a small number of them have been good games.

I'd say the number is closer to 40% of my posts since I returned a couple months ago. And that high percentage relates to the fact that FF15 is on the horizon and I'm discussing how bad it's likely to turn out on release.

Like I said, you want to make a claim, research that claim first. You're making a fool of yourself right now.

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@mmmwksil said:

@Legend002:

It teaches Square-Enix the lesson that they actually have to put effort into their FF knock off products. Or that the first game's praise and "success" was pure luck (it was).

Regardless I'm content, as a poor outing will kill the series and force the company to put the money into something else. Preferably something that doesn't suck.

Uh no the first games praise wasn't pure luck, the characters were far more likeable than anything in recent FF games and the combat was actually fun.

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#45 Zen_Light
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@naughtyottsel said:
@mmmwksil said:

@Legend002:

It teaches Square-Enix the lesson that they actually have to put effort into their FF knock off products. Or that the first game's praise and "success" was pure luck (it was).

Regardless I'm content, as a poor outing will kill the series and force the company to put the money into something else. Preferably something that doesn't suck.

Uh no the first games praise wasn't pure luck, the characters were far more likeable than anything in recent FF games and the combat was actually fun.

And the second game has a metacritic score over 80. He should read the positive points from GS review as well for a much clearer picture than the false one in his head.

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#46 mmmwksil
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@naughtyottsel said:

Uh no the first games praise wasn't pure luck, the characters were far more likeable than anything in recent FF games and the combat was actually fun.

Yeah, the bland Tiz, cardboard cutout that was Agnes, painfully pointless Ringabel; Edea was the only character worth a darn, and that's only because she had history with the villains. She wasn't enough to save the story, though.

As for the combat, it wore thin when the second half of the game was nothing but the first half rehashed a few more times. Now if you found that enjoyable, more power to you.

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@GreySeal9 said:

Braverly Second: End Layer is the worst title for a game I've ever seen.

Bravely Third: Icing On Top, coming Q4 2017

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#48 naughtyottsel
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@mmmwksil said:
@naughtyottsel said:

Uh no the first games praise wasn't pure luck, the characters were far more likeable than anything in recent FF games and the combat was actually fun.

Yeah, the bland Tiz, cardboard cutout that was Agnes, painfully pointless Ringabel; Edea was the only character worth a darn, and that's only because she had history with the villains. She wasn't enough to save the story, though.

As for the combat, it wore thin when the second half of the game was nothing but the first half rehashed a few more times. Now if you found that enjoyable, more power to you.

If you thought Ringabel was pointless then oooooooooooooh boy.

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#49 Jag85
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@Zen_Light said:
@naughtyottsel said:
@mmmwksil said:

@Legend002:

It teaches Square-Enix the lesson that they actually have to put effort into their FF knock off products. Or that the first game's praise and "success" was pure luck (it was).

Regardless I'm content, as a poor outing will kill the series and force the company to put the money into something else. Preferably something that doesn't suck.

Uh no the first games praise wasn't pure luck, the characters were far more likeable than anything in recent FF games and the combat was actually fun.

And the second game has a metacritic score over 80. He should read the positive points from GS review as well for a much clearer picture than the false one in his head.

On Metacritic, the second game only got 4 points lower (81) than the first game (85). That's not a "flop" at all.

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#50 mmmwksil
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@naughtyottsel said:

If you thought Ringabel was pointless then oooooooooooooh boy.

Having a reason for existing at the end of the plot doesn't redeem an entire game's worth of terrible dialogue and character interaction.

@Zen_Light said:

And the second game has a metacritic score over 80. He should read the positive points from GS review as well for a much clearer picture than the false one in his head.

What does the metacritic average has to do with anything? And for your information, I did read the review and all the positive points. Doesn't make the game any better for me and it certainly doesn't sway my stance on it.

But if you want to buy it, go ahead. I'm not stopping you. I'm just contributing to the discussion. ;)