Brian Hastings is no Kojima, Miyamoto or Will Wright

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#51 tegovoltio
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[QUOTE="rocktimusprime"] guess my psp, ps2 and psone are useless mr. holmes

If I own a 360 and I bash MS and support Sony, that doesn't make me a MS fan.
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#52 reaperstoll
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[QUOTE="xBALOx"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"][QUOTE="reaperstoll"][QUOTE="rocktimusprime"]

So Insomniac thinks the PS3 is getting a bad wrap from the press? Too bad, take critism like a man, instead of crying like a baby. And don't talk until you have made a game that is legendary.

Sorry but his words = nothing. If any of the top tier designers had said what he said, people would actually listen and care, but right now the only people who are listening are Sony fanboys who suck at anything coming out of it's teet. Even when it's pure crap.

So Insomniac, a primarily Sony dev thinks Sony will win? Ask Bungie for thier opinion and i bet they'd say "10 reasons 360 will win!" Common Sense people.

Casino Royale sucked and the HD picture won't make it any better, idiots.

I rule.

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Hmm its interesting that you seem to think his opinion as a game developer is worthless, but your opinion as someone who has probably never seen coding is the word of god.

his opinion as a sony developer, sherlock.

your opinion as a M$ fanboy watson.

guess my psp, ps2 and psone are useless mr. holmes

trying to contradict something that you admit to by labeling yourself a shemming in your sig isn't the most intelligent thing i have ever seen. I don't think he is necessarily right i am just saying that when it comes to the gaming industry his opinion may not hold alot of weight but it holds more than yours does.
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#53 asmallchild
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guess my psp, ps2 and psone are useless mr. holmesrocktimusprime
Question: Does it say PS3 anywhere on those items? Answer: No Where's the next fire I have to put out? :D
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[QUOTE="Spag1091"][QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So even if he makes good points, they aren't valid because he isn't a big dev. or because he works for insomniac?lordseer

I think a major point of contention was that his points were pure garbage and I think it is probably because no one can really make 10 valid points for why the ps3 will win.

Reason #.... " Little Big Planet " :lol: Yeah there's a killer app.

Reason #.... "something for everyone" Because nintendo's and MS's libraries aren't as robust.

Reason #..... " casino Royal " Honestly man, can you reach any further?

These are the top 3 I can think off the top of my head that just made me think wtf. Fanbois on this forum could have done a better job.

You simplified his arguments such that they look ridiculous, when the full arguments are actually tightly argued. Do you think he was just talking about Casino Royale? If you do, you didn't read the article. Casino Royale is an example he used to highlight the importance of blu-ray. And blu-ray is not small matter.

I read a list that appeared to be copied and pasted from a link.  i really don't need to or plan to read through what he wrote because it is like watching fox news for an opinion on George Bush, there really just isn't a point.

As you have said, Sony doesn't own Insomniac, but at this point they are pretty much cutting their checks for them.  Insomniac has muddied the waters and their fate at this point is intertwined with the success of the ps3.

Please don't post an uneducated opinion on a topic. Not only is it flamebait but it's simply immature. Oh and don't compare anything to do with the Bush administration to Sony, Sony is a legitimately run corporation while the majority of people who caused Bush to be in office would have loved if slavery still existed.

obviously you are slow on the pick up as my analogy had nothing to do with sony being like bush, though if you'd like me to link them I would go on about catch phrases, "xbox 1.5"  /  "flipflopper".  It was a comment on this developers legitmacy on a topic and his obvious biasedness and the relationship between fox news and the republican party / bush administration and it's legitimacy / biasedness.

If someone gives me an overview of what an article says I believe it to be a copy and paste from the developers list it wasn't completely uneducated.  A better term would have been misinformed.  ALso, get yourself a dictionary as your use of the word immature in no way described the use of an "uneducated opinion". 

The immaturity I was referring to concerned your ignorance to make an effort to read the full article. I didn't realize that you were simply misinformed so I take that opinion of you back. :)
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[QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So even if he makes good points, they aren't valid because he isn't a big dev. or because he works for insomniac?Spag1091

I think a major point of contention was that his points were pure garbage and I think it is probably because no one can really make 10 valid points for why the ps3 will win.

Reason #.... " Little Big Planet " :lol: Yeah there's a killer app.

Reason #.... "something for everyone" Because nintendo's and MS's libraries aren't as robust.

Reason #..... " casino Royal " Honestly man, can you reach any further?

These are the top 3 I can think off the top of my head that just made me think wtf. Fanbois on this forum could have done a better job.

You simplified his arguments such that they look ridiculous, when the full arguments are actually tightly argued. Do you think he was just talking about Casino Royale? If you do, you didn't read the article. Casino Royale is an example he used to highlight the importance of blu-ray. And blu-ray is not small matter.

I read a list that appeared to be copied and pasted from a link. i really don't need to or plan to read through what he wrote because it is like watching fox news for an opinion on George Bush, there really just isn't a point.

As you have said, Sony doesn't own Insomniac, but at this point they are pretty much cutting their checks for them. Insomniac has muddied the waters and their fate at this point is intertwined with the success of the ps3.

Please don't post an uneducated opinion on a topic. Not only is it flamebait but it's simply immature. Oh and don't compare anything to do with the Bush administration to Sony, Sony is a legitimately run corporation while the majority of people who caused Bush to be in office would have loved if slavery still existed.

 "Uneducated opinion"... I am paraphrasing you but on what do you base the most Americans would prefer we continued to enslave our brothers and sisters comment? The comparison between the Bush Administration and Sony was a bit of a stretch, however you assail someone with such venom and their essential point, that Insomniac's fate be it good or bad, is intertwined with that of Sony is fundamentally correct...

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I read a list that appeared to be copied and pasted from a link.  i really don't need to or plan to read through what he wrote because it is like watching fox news for an opinion on George Bush, there really just isn't a point.

As you have said, Sony doesn't own Insomniac, but at this point they are pretty much cutting their checks for them.  Insomniac has muddied the waters and their fate at this point is intertwined with the success of the ps3.

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Actually, you should read his techinical points. Those are the only things that are truly interesting. We have yet to see anyone dispute the technical issues he addressed. Funny thing is that 2 of his tech points go to the 360 and 3 go to the PS3. You will find gold nuggets even if you watch Fox, not even they can cover up ALL the truth! ;)
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But Insomniac is a better developer than Bungie. Example: Spyro series, Ratchet series, Resistance: Fall of Man. All highly successful. Best marks on Ratchet series. All of them AAA. Resistance was a brand new outing into a new genre by a platforming developer, and from many sources, it received AAA marks. In Game Informer, it matched Gears of War's score. Insomniac is great. Read his words again. He speaks from a developer's perspective and gives clear examples from his own experiences and why the Playstation 3 is truly embarking on success by meeting many of his own goals and expectations, allowing him to be a better developer because of it.Redfingers

Heres how it break down to

Bungie 

*Halo -9.7

*Halo 2 - 9.4

*Myth Seris(highest score of series)- 9.3

Insomniac

*Ratchet and Clank- 9.0

*Sly Cooper(highest score of series)- 8.4

*Spyro(highest score of series)- 8.6

*I also forgot RFOM- 8.6

You FAILED. Bungie > Insomniac 

 

 

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[QUOTE="Redfingers"]But Insomniac is a better developer than Bungie. Example: Spyro series, Ratchet series, Resistance: Fall of Man. All highly successful. Best marks on Ratchet series. All of them AAA. Resistance was a brand new outing into a new genre by a platforming developer, and from many sources, it received AAA marks. In Game Informer, it matched Gears of War's score. Insomniac is great. Read his words again. He speaks from a developer's perspective and gives clear examples from his own experiences and why the Playstation 3 is truly embarking on success by meeting many of his own goals and expectations, allowing him to be a better developer because of it.hoankiemdinh

Heres how it break down to

Bungie 

*Halo -9.7

*Halo 2 - 9.4

*Myth Seris(highest score of series)- 9.3

Insomniac

*Ratchet and Clank- 9.0

*Sly Cooper(highest score of series)- 8.4

*Spyro(highest score of series)- 8.6

*I also forgot RFOM- 8.6

You FAILED. Bungie > Insomniac 

 

 

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[QUOTE="Spag1091"][QUOTE="lordseer"][QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So even if he makes good points, they aren't valid because he isn't a big dev. or because he works for insomniac?GoldenSamurai

I think a major point of contention was that his points were pure garbage and I think it is probably because no one can really make 10 valid points for why the ps3 will win.

Reason #.... " Little Big Planet " :lol: Yeah there's a killer app.

Reason #.... "something for everyone" Because nintendo's and MS's libraries aren't as robust.

Reason #..... " casino Royal " Honestly man, can you reach any further?

These are the top 3 I can think off the top of my head that just made me think wtf. Fanbois on this forum could have done a better job.

You simplified his arguments such that they look ridiculous, when the full arguments are actually tightly argued. Do you think he was just talking about Casino Royale? If you do, you didn't read the article. Casino Royale is an example he used to highlight the importance of blu-ray. And blu-ray is not small matter.

I read a list that appeared to be copied and pasted from a link. i really don't need to or plan to read through what he wrote because it is like watching fox news for an opinion on George Bush, there really just isn't a point.

As you have said, Sony doesn't own Insomniac, but at this point they are pretty much cutting their checks for them. Insomniac has muddied the waters and their fate at this point is intertwined with the success of the ps3.

Please don't post an uneducated opinion on a topic. Not only is it flamebait but it's simply immature. Oh and don't compare anything to do with the Bush administration to Sony, Sony is a legitimately run corporation while the majority of people who caused Bush to be in office would have loved if slavery still existed.

 "Uneducated opinion"... I am paraphrasing you but on what do you base the most Americans would prefer we continued to enslave our brothers and sisters comment? The comparison between the Bush Administration and Sony was a bit of a stretch, however you assail someone with such venom and their essential point, that Insomniac's fate be it good or bad, is intertwined with that of Sony is fundamentally correct...

Right, right I'm sorry I should have clarified. I wasn't actually referring to Lordseer's post about Insomniac's fate being intertwined with the success of the PS3, I actually agree there, except for the fact that Insomniac would not simply collapse before being sold off to another developing company (they do make great games). I was actually referring to Lordseer's first post in that jumble of quotes up there, the one where he lists three titles of some fairly legitimate points Brian had made and he never realized there was more depth to those titles. Ah, and the whole Bush thing, I know you say MOST Americans in your statement there but in reality Bush lost the popular vote, so it would be the opinion of those who voted for Bush. I don't literally mean they would like there to be slavery, I basically socially profiled the majority of his voters as people resonating from the once "Confederate States" and holding an average IQ of below 100 (I did this research closer to when the elections were held so don't ask for proof but there was a pretty shocking geographic chart with average IQs labelled across Republican states and Democratic states). (Please don't turn this into a political controversey, I'm an undecided party, I just preferred Gore and Kerry).
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You know, you almost had a point... until you said Casino Royale sucked. Sorry, you just lost all credit. :|
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#61 datret
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He's not a big developer and because of that, people don't listen to him...yet half the posts in system wars are about his comment. +1 Logic!
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#62 ringuzi
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hey bungie has more credibility than insomniac! theyve made plenty of AAAs and some of the most popular games ever. but kojima and will wright and miyamoto have made amazing revolutionary games for longer im sure in a few years bungie will be equal in rank with those guys as legendary devs
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#63 reaperstoll
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[QUOTE="ringuzi"]hey bungie has more credibility than insomniac! theyve made plenty of AAAs and some of the most popular games ever. but kojima and will wright and miyamoto have made amazing revolutionary games for longer im sure in a few years bungie will be equal in rank with those guys as legendary devs

I doubt it, whereas the devs the TC mentioned have done innovative things bungie have been given you lems halo, which isn't that innovative of a game for anyone who played PC FPS'. They didn't do anything that new, they just did it better than the other series on the consoles. Until Bungie comes out with something truly revolutionary they will not be on the same level as miyamoto, wright, and kojima
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[QUOTE="fuzzysquash"][QUOTE="lordseer"]

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"]So even if he makes good points, they aren't valid because he isn't a big dev. or because he works for insomniac?lordseer

I think a major point of contention was that his points were pure garbage and I think it is probably because no one can really make 10 valid points for why the ps3 will win.

Reason #.... " Little Big Planet " :lol: Yeah there's a killer app.

Reason #.... "something for everyone" Because nintendo's and MS's libraries aren't as robust.

Reason #..... " casino Royal " Honestly man, can you reach any further?

These are the top 3 I can think off the top of my head that just made me think wtf. Fanbois on this forum could have done a better job.

You simplified his arguments such that they look ridiculous, when the full arguments are actually tightly argued. Do you think he was just talking about Casino Royale? If you do, you didn't read the article. Casino Royale is an example he used to highlight the importance of blu-ray. And blu-ray is not small matter.

I read a list that appeared to be copied and pasted from a link. i really don't need to or plan to read through what he wrote because it is like watching fox news for an opinion on George Bush, there really just isn't a point.

As you have said, Sony doesn't own Insomniac, but at this point they are pretty much cutting their checks for them. Insomniac has muddied the waters and their fate at this point is intertwined with the success of the ps3.

1) No, their fate is not intertwined with Sony's. Their immediate fate is--but if the PS3 sinks, Insomniac can just go develop for someone else. 2) If you haven't read it, you aren't equipped to criticize it. His points are strongly argued, and we'd have a better discussion if you actually read it.