Bullshot - Definition

[QUOTE="Maddie_Larkin"]

Lets add cutscene images in aswell shall we?

considering most cutscenes is in no way linked to the actural game, but are often used to hype a game, cutscenes can make any game look good since it is prerecorded, and often upped quite a bit compared to actural gameplay fotage.

Esnedon

Some games have actual in-game cutscenes, though.

Bullshot:

In-game shot:

Things to look out for:

- Perfect AA - no imperfections or jaggys

- Sharper than it should be

- No HUD

- False colours

No HUD only counts on consoles, it takes 3 seconds to disable the ingame hud in a pc game.

crysis can look better than the ingame shot you posted anyways. sometimes ingame in crysis can look better than bullshots of crysis

example, This is in game not a bullshot

This is an actual crysis bullshot:

[QUOTE="General_X"]I'd like to call pretty much any cutscene screenshot a bullshot. Pretty much every cutscene, even in-engine ones, look better than the actual gameplay by adding extra AA, texture filtering, and higher res textures while the cutscene is running due to the hardware not having to calculate all the extra stuff like AI. Uncharted 2 and Crysis or the biggest offenders here (Though Crysis completely maxed wont look much different during cutscenes, if its on a lower setting it recieves a bump though)ElTriforceo

What exactly defines a bullshot? I've seen a lot of nice images posted only to be dismissed as bullshots. Most of the time, it's images from console games although I'm sure there are PC ones as well. Can someone define bullshot and in bullet format show what do's and don't's should be done in order for an image not to be labeled as one.

jun_aka_pekto

[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

And all Forza 3 screenshots before its release.

calvinsora

yep, and Turn 10 eventually owned up to it

Polyphony is still releasing bullshots that people spam

it doesn't help when they release what i like to call "bullvids"

I'd like to see proof on how you came to that conclusion. The reason PD have been delaying this game for so long is exactly to focus on graphics. I think it's the wrong thing to focus on, but people couldn't believe games like UC2 and GoW3 could work on the PS3. Until the game is released, we can't say anything about the graphical capabilities. They could look worse than the screenshots, I'm not defending the game. I think graphical comparisons are pointless before the games themselves are released (and after they are released, but no matter), just wait for the final product before drawing judgement.

[QUOTE="ElTriforceo"][QUOTE="General_X"]I'd like to call pretty much any cutscene screenshot a bullshot. Pretty much every cutscene, even in-engine ones, look better than the actual gameplay by adding extra AA, texture filtering, and higher res textures while the cutscene is running due to the hardware not having to calculate all the extra stuff like AI. Uncharted 2 and Crysis or the biggest offenders here (Though Crysis completely maxed wont look much different during cutscenes, if its on a lower setting it recieves a bump though)General_X

Actually, that's wrong. Crysis' cutscenes are real-time, and at the settings you have the game on. The only thing they add is DoF. Uncharted 2 does have a few pre-rendered cutscenes, though.

[QUOTE="General_X"][QUOTE="ElTriforceo"] Uncharted 2 cutscenes and gameplay honestly do not look different at all. In fact in game sequences often look better to me than gameplay. It often switches intermittently between the two, the only thing that changes is camera angle then I don't even notice I'm supposed to play again....Esnedon

Actually, that's wrong. Crysis' cutscenes are real-time, and at the settings you have the game on. The only thing they add is DoF. Uncharted 2 does have a few pre-rendered cutscenes, though.

A pic posted by a PS3 fan.

anshul89

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Any pic that has been edited in any manner or form.ElTriforceo

Bullshot: The art of embellishing screen captures to decieve the viewer into posting it on System Wars to claim 'graphix king' as if the manner of the term actually had some relevance to how well the game plays.

Anything that isn't a exact pixel to pixel capture of what's being displayed on the screen when you play could be bullshot (if it's better than what's on the screen).

resolution, AA, blur, etc. are all far beyond the actual capabilities of the hardware

re: all GT5 screenshots ever posted

88mphSlayer

HAHAHHA. you mean all Forza 3 screenshots? lol. have you even seen the Forza forums after the demo was released?? HAHAHAHA. and yet all lems thought Forza 3 would look that good. lawl. after the demo, have you ever seen a Forza 3 vs. GT5 graphics thread? NO.

What exactly defines a bullshot? I've seen a lot of nice images posted only to be dismissed as bullshots. Most of the time, it's images from console games although I'm sure there are PC ones as well. Can someone define bullshot and in bullet format show what do's and don't's should be done in order for an image not to be labeled as one.

jun_aka_pekto

Anything that isn't a exact pixel to pixel capture of what's being displayed on the screen when you play could be bullshot (if it's better than what's on the screen).

Flanker15

That's similar to what I think screengrabs should be. For pc games, I guess that means using an external capture method (eg PrtScn and FRAPS) and not one that is part of the game as one poster here pointed out.

That means no editing of any sort. The only reason for passing through a graphics app would be to save as a jpeg. For example, the free version of FRAPS saves in huge uncompressed .bmp files. I have to load the image into Paintshop Pro to save it as a much smaller jpeg. Of course, that also means I lose some image quality during the save.

As for console screenshots, there's not really that many options besides using expensive capture hardware or finding screenshots online. But the same rules should also apply as far as having no enhancements.