Bungie microsoft split up rumors...straight from the horses mouth

[QUOTE="real45"]Next we are going to have rumors of gears of war developers leaving Epic and Square Enix devs.yeeesh. Bungie is probally happily jumping at the chance to do another Marathon right now.Dreams-Visions

They are now at this point in time, and rightfully so, knownas the devs of the hottest V.G. property known to man; Halo !

I'm sure MS would love them to create a new mega hit not based on Halo - so why have they failed to do so?

My guess is, Halo gives both Bungie & MS the biggest bang for the buck !

If Bungie could prove themselves to MS through works in progress of a promising new IP - I have little doubt MS would be only to happy to give the green light !

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Bogus or not bogus?:Bogus that Bungie's entire operation is uprooting itself from the Microsoft campus of its own volition and taking the Bungie brand with them. Not bogus that, now that the Halo trilogy is done, many of the developer's staffers are likely pondering following in the footsteps of Bungie founder Alex Seropian, who left to create indie shop Wideload Games(Stubbs the Zombie) in 2004.

Dreams-Visions

depending on who and how many, it could really hurt the Halo franchise.

Some actually do it. And the companies they leave are never the same (Rare). The story is clearly not over, as evidenced by TXB's ominus statement.

This gen Rare has made the only AAA launch title and two AA this gen for MS !

People who loved Rare b/c it was teh Nintendo dev. are now so willing to TRY and say they have slumped !

Not by my measuring stick and clearly reviewers dont think so ether !

Banjo IMHO is going to be a killer title and still the loyalist will say bu bu but Rare is not so great anymore - I dont get it ! :?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Bogus or not bogus?:Bogus that Bungie's entire operation is uprooting itself from the Microsoft campus of its own volition and taking the Bungie brand with them. Not bogus that, now that the Halo trilogy is done, many of the developer's staffers are likely pondering following in the footsteps of Bungie founder Alex Seropian, who left to create indie shop Wideload Games(Stubbs the Zombie) in 2004.

SecretPolice

depending on who and how many, it could really hurt the Halo franchise.

Some actually do it. And the companies they leave are never the same (Rare). The story is clearly not over, as evidenced by TXB's ominus statement.

This gen Rare has made the only AAA launch title and two AA this gen for MS !

People who loved Rare b/c it was teh Nintendo dev. are now so willing to TRY and say they have slumped !

Not by my measuring stick and clearly reviewers dont think so ether !

Banjo IMHO is going to be a killer title and still the loyalist will say bu bu but Rare is not so great anymore - I dont get it ! :?

It could be that in the real world, people don't go only by GS review scores.

Unless it comes out that MS didn't actually BUY Bungie, and just signed some sort of exclusivity deal, this won't go anywhere. Is MS actually bought the company, which we all believe, then MS owns Halo and owns the Bungie name. The employees can all get up and quit and it wouldn't change the fact that Bungie is part of MS.

And I would also point out that it rarely ever works when eployees leave to develop for someone else or form their own company. Seriously, how often have we heard of big name devs from big name companies breaking out only to produce little to nothing of value? Especially compares to what they USED to produce. Development is a team effort and one person or two leaving a high quality team rarely works.

ZIMdoom

retro, free radical, ect were companies of people that left a huge company and made small ones that made it. retro was iguana employess mostly and free radical was mostly nintendo and rare emplyees that worked on golden eye and perfect dark. also in japan it happens with success all the time.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Bogus or not bogus?:Bogus that Bungie's entire operation is uprooting itself from the Microsoft campus of its own volition and taking the Bungie brand with them. Not bogus that, now that the Halo trilogy is done, many of the developer's staffers are likely pondering following in the footsteps of Bungie founder Alex Seropian, who left to create indie shop Wideload Games(Stubbs the Zombie) in 2004.

SecretPolice

depending on who and how many, it could really hurt the Halo franchise.

Some actually do it. And the companies they leave are never the same (Rare). The story is clearly not over, as evidenced by TXB's ominus statement.

This gen Rare has made the only AAA launch title and two AA this gen for MS !

People who loved Rare b/c it was teh Nintendo dev. are now so willing to TRY and say they have slumped !

Not by my measuring stick and clearly reviewers dont think so ether !

Banjo IMHO is going to be a killer title and still the loyalist will say bu bu but Rare is not so great anymore - I dont get it ! :?

when i see people write things like this i say wtf they must be new to gaming. i have been a rare fan since they were ultimate and there quality has gone way down hill. they have really lost the magic they once had. and there best game this gen (viva pinata) got the lowest score out of there released games. rare peeked with jet force gemini and have been slowly dwindling. they really need to get back into gear. but when more than half your team leaves when they are sold (alot of them went to other nintendo companies and others went to try making there own studios and when the founders leave) what made the company great is not there anymore. it is like an egg that is just a shell. basically the studio is starting from scratch.

Some actually do it. And the companies they leave are never the same (Rare). The story is clearly not over, as evidenced by TXB's ominus statement.

This gen Rare has made the only AAA launch title and two AA this gen for MS !

People who loved Rare b/c it was teh Nintendo dev. are now so willing to TRY and say they have slumped !

Not by my measuring stick and clearly reviewers dont think so ether !

Banjo IMHO is going to be a killer title and still the loyalist will say bu bu but Rare is not so great anymore - I dont get it ! :?

It could be that in the real world, people don't go only by GS review scores.

I said in previous conversation with you that I pegged you wrong in calling you a hater but alas here you go again !!

FYI - You are posting on GS and so who the heck cares what other sites say ?

Furthermore, lets say 3 AA's ( just for sake of argument b/c PDZ is AAA - get over it ) for MS.

Those AA's are not good and Rare sucks ?

You have been revealed as a Nintendo loyalist and Great games dont matter to you; only teh Nintendo Name Plate!

Very bad taste indeed !

Good Day !

This gen Rare has made the only AAA launch title and two AA this gen for MS !

People who loved Rare b/c it was teh Nintendo dev. are now so willing to TRY and say they have slumped !

Not by my measuring stick and clearly reviewers dont think so ether !

Banjo IMHO is going to be a killer title and still the loyalist will say bu bu but Rare is not so great anymore - I dont get it ! :?

when i see people write things like this i say wtf they must be new to gaming. i have been a rare fan since they were ultimate and there quality has gone way down hill. they have really lost the magic they once had. and there best game this gen (viva pinata) got the lowest score out of there released games. rare peeked with jet force gemini and have been slowly dwindling. they really need to get back into gear. but when more than half your team leaves when they are sold (alot of them went to other nintendo companies and others went to try making there own studios and when the founders leave) what made the company great is not there anymore. it is like an egg that is just a shell. basically the studio is starting from scratch.

I would be willing to bet I have been gaming long before you !

That outta the way; whats wrong with Kameo PDZ and V.P. again ?

PS: You are posting on GS so plz check the GS reviews of these great games and report back ASAP ! ;)

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

depending on who and how many, it could really hurt the Halo franchise.

frankeyser

Some actually do it. And the companies they leave are never the same (Rare). The story is clearly not over, as evidenced by TXB's ominus statement.

This gen Rare has made the only AAA launch title and two AA this gen for MS !

People who loved Rare b/c it was teh Nintendo dev. are now so willing to TRY and say they have slumped !

Not by my measuring stick and clearly reviewers dont think so ether !

Banjo IMHO is going to be a killer title and still the loyalist will say bu bu but Rare is not so great anymore - I dont get it ! :?

when i see people write things like this i say wtf they must be new to gaming. i have been a rare fan since they were ultimate and there quality has gone way down hill. they have really lost the magic they once had. and there best game this gen (viva pinata) got the lowest score out of there released games. rare peeked with jet force gemini and have been slowly dwindling. they really need to get back into gear. but when more than half your team leaves when they are sold (alot of them went to other nintendo companies and others went to try making there own studios and when the founders leave) what made the company great is not there anymore. it is like an egg that is just a shell. basically the studio is starting from scratch.

I'm sure he's not new to gaming, but you hit the nail on the head. PDZ's AAA status is a damn joke and a function of circumstances. Rare today is nothing like the Rare that made Killer Instinct, Banjo, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark and Conker (among other great games).

They were a high AAA developer. Now? hopes of future AAA games (that actually deserve it) are few and far between.

I hope the same doesn't happen to Bungie...but you know what? People go with their heart...and if the Halo devs are tired of making Halo games, then their only option may be to move on.

Like I said, if I was a dev, I'd be tired of making the same type of game for 10 years of my life (they'd been working on Halo for years before Halo launched on Xbox 1). I'd want to try something new and different. The only way to do that would probably be to leave, because the Halo franchise is too important for MS to allow them to simply make something else and forget about Halo.

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And how would you know that? A large reason for Halo's success was because of Microsoft, without the money bags they provide for marketing, developing, everything.

Other way around

[QUOTE="Eltroz"][QUOTE="slystallion26"]why wouldn't bungie look for greener pastures knowing full well they can be quite profitable on their own?SecretPolice

Exactly they would have nothing to gain from leaving Microsoft. There backed by one of the biggest companys in the world at the moment with next to limitless funds because it will be "from the creators of the Halo trilogy, Gears of War and the Unreal Series".

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

sorry guys

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25955364&sid=6180203&action=convert&om_clk=latestnews&tag=latestnews;title;1

Tenudin

Thank you i'm just reporting the news...and people are mad at me like i started this whole rumor.

People are so defensive like the success of their favorite system puts money in their pocket

So is Bungie gonna turn into Rare? :(Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]So is Bungie gonna turn into Rare? :(SecretPolice

No, I mean how half of Rare's employees left to start their own studios, and all that was left was interns who made crap like PDZ. :(

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]So is Bungie gonna turn into Rare? :(Timstuff

No, I mean how half of Rare's employees left to start their own studios, and all that was left was interns who made crap like PDZ. :(

New IP's like Kameo & V.P. = solid AA's !

PDZ in 2005 = AAA ! ;)

Banjo, the first trully dev.'ed from scratch title from Rare with the time & resources req.is going on the 360 and will be their 2nd AAA & a platformer to boot !

Of course IMHO ;)

gameinformer just puts this article up saying,

Our source stated that Bungie is "tired of Making Halo, and didn't want to do future Halo games." For an unstated, but significant amount of money, Bungie shareholders bought the studio name back from Microsoft. Our source also revealed that even though Microsoft will retain the rights to Halo, Microsoft also has "the right of first refusal on future games."