Bungie or Insomniac: Which one is more technically talented?

... overall as a developer, which company is more proficient technically (i.e capable of delivering innovative, hard to pull off, technical feats on consoles, etc..)?

I don't think neither is that good...but I like Insominiac a thousand times better than Bungie so I will go with Insomniac

I'll have to go with Bungie.

clearly insomniac..but u kno who is gonna argue about halo eing one of the best series eva and so on

Bungie. I like Insomniac as a group of guys, but R&C is sooo played out, and R1: FoM was pretty good, but R2 was a freaking huge disappointment.

And Bungie only made Halo? Do some research.

Insomniac, because they created three great franchises whereas bungie only made halo so far. insomniac's games are better looking too. Other than that, they take off existent ideasNYrockinlegend

both have done an insane amount for the company theyve been supporting, id say insomniac just because of the fact that they have put out a good chunk of very high quality gaming software, where as bungie is glorified and sometimes i worry that they have probably caused the formation of a few cults...

Insomniac is 100x better when it comes to technical aspects of a game. Graphically they are ahead of Bungie and they always manage to pull off minor miracles in the video game world (60 player lagless, flawless multiplayer). So if we are talking technically talented, then Insomniac gets a landslide victory. If you are talking about which company produces the best games, thats all up to the player.II_Seraphim_II

They're technically ahead? Hah. *looks at R1 & R2*

They're both the same. The get their one hit wonders or they are incapable to come up with more stories/different characters.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Insomniac is 100x better when it comes to technical aspects of a game. Graphically they are ahead of Bungie and they always manage to pull off minor miracles in the video game world (60 player lagless, flawless multiplayer). So if we are talking technically talented, then Insomniac gets a landslide victory. If you are talking about which company produces the best games, thats all up to the player.BioShockOwnz

They're technically ahead? Hah. *looks at R1 & R2*

Insomniac for technical feats, Bungie for innovation. But I like Halo more than anything Insomniac have done.

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"]Insomniac is 100x better when it comes to technical aspects of a game. Graphically they are ahead of Bungie and they always manage to pull off minor miracles in the video game world (60 player lagless, flawless multiplayer). So if we are talking technically talented, then Insomniac gets a landslide victory. If you are talking about which company produces the best games, thats all up to the player.II_Seraphim_II

They're technically ahead? Hah. *looks at R1 & R2*

Compare FPS to FPS. Did you know Resistance uses the Ratchet engine? It looks like Halo 3 is about the same or better than Resistance in graphics and artstyle.

Actually, a lot of the mid and later levels in R&C: ToD look rather mediocre.

Bungie. It's alot more easy to create stunning looking agmes when Sony invest millions in an engien specifically for use with there ... odd console, hence why Insomniac "achievements"should be taken with a pinch of salt.

As far as gaming series goes ... well Bungie are so far ahead with just Halo, it's not even funny. Online setup, management, intergration, all Bungie.

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

They're technically ahead? Hah. *looks at R1 & R2*

BioShockOwnz

Compare FPS to FPS. Did you know Resistance uses the Ratchet engine? It looks like Halo 3 is about the same or better than Resistance in graphics and artstyle.

Actually, a lot of the mid and later levels in R&C: ToD look rather mediocre.

I don't care for Insomniac.

I don't like Ratchet and Clank or Spyro games.

*Looks at Halo*... *Looks at Ratchet and Clank*II_Seraphim_II

Compare FPS to FPS. Did you know Resistance uses the Ratchet engine? It looks like Halo 3 is about the same or better than Resistance in graphics and artstyle.

Actually, a lot of the mid and later levels in R&C: ToD look rather mediocre.

Both great developer studios but Bungie is undoubtly the best.

They made amazingfranchises like:

Marathon

Myth

and Halo

Bungie. It's not even debatable. :|

Most successful game? Bungie.

Most sales? Bungie.

Most successful (score wise)? Bungie.

Most in touch with it's fanbase? Bungie by about a billion miles.

Most successful online game? Bungie by a billion miles.

Funniest? Bungie.

Hell the fact Resistence borrows so much from Halo says it all. Even insomniac would admit bungie owns them silly.

I will say that Insomniac (Ratchet and Clank) is better than Sucker Punch (Sly Cooper).

I hate the sly cooper games.

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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] *Looks at Halo*... *Looks at Ratchet and Clank*II_Seraphim_II

Compare FPS to FPS. Did you know Resistance uses the Ratchet engine? It looks like Halo 3 is about the same or better than Resistance in graphics and artstyle.

Actually, a lot of the mid and later levels in R&C: ToD look rather mediocre.

No game is flawless online. EVERY game experiences lag, even games you have to pay a monthly fee for.

Well, I'm a massive Halo fanboy, so obviously Bungie :P

Although, honestly, I probably would go with them just for Bungie.net.

Bungie. It's not even debatable. :|

Most successful game? Bungie.

Most sales? Bungie.

Most successful (score wise)? Bungie.

Most in touch with it's fanbase? Bungie by about a billion miles.

Most successful online game? Bungie by a billion miles.

Funniest? Bungie.

Hell the fact Resistence borrows so much from Halo says it all. Even insomniac would admit bungie owns them silly.

CreepyBacon

And with that this debate is over and the thread is now closed.Now move along.

Insomniac is more technically impressive.. 60 players competitive online with virtually no lag, 8 player coop with hundreds of enemies on screen.. Also Ratchet is one of the prettiest games this gen. They also don't take as long to make a game. At least one a year

halo craps all over resistance so this is a no brainer imo

Resistance 2 blows Halo out of the water with 60 player lagless deathmatch. You think I give a crap if there are only 2 million people playing R2? If you really want to talk about sales talk about how Nintendogs has outsold Halo 3 by some 12 million. Does that make it a better game? Sales are the only thing that Halo 3 has. With 50 million spent on advertising alone, it better have some good sales.

Insomniac is more technically impressive.. 60 players competitive online with virtually no lag, 8 player coop with hundreds of enemies on screen.. Also Ratchet is one of the prettiest games this gen. They also don't take as long to make a game. At least one a year

f50p90

I'll have to go with Bungie.

Avian005

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Insomniac is more technically impressive.. 60 players competitive online with virtually no lag, 8 player coop with hundreds of enemies on screen.. Also Ratchet is one of the prettiest games this gen. They also don't take as long to make a game. At least one a year

SparkyProtocol

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] dedicated servers are not an achievement. At all ... Insomniac have done nothing note worthy, especially without the helping hand of Sony. The only thing MS does is rush devs.II_Seraphim_II

Insomniac, because they created three great franchises whereas bungie only made halo so far. insomniac's games are better looking too. Other than that, they take off existent ideasNYrockinlegend

I think people are confused. This thread isnt about which Dev is better or which game is better. Its about which dev is technically more talented. Which dev is able to get the most out of their respective system. So yes, I agree that Halo is better than Resistance, but Insomniac are more technically talented devs than Bungie. Im not saying that they are better devs, just saying that when it comes to getting the most out of the hardware, Insomniac pushes harder.II_Seraphim_II

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] dedicated servers are not an achievement. At all ... Insomniac have done nothing note worthy, especially without the helping hand of Sony. The only thing MS does is rush devs.-Snooze-

Resistance 2 blows Halo out of the water with 60 player lagless deathmatch. You think I give a crap if there are only 2 million people playing R2? If you really want to talk about sales talk about how Nintendogs has outsold Halo 3 by some 12 million. Does that make it a better game? Sales are the only thing that Halo 3 has. With 50 million spent on advertising alone, it better have some good sales.

MegajerkNYC

hmmm, number of player=/= fun.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] You are right, its Insomniac's fault that MS rushes devs. Thats not their problem. And I wasnt talking about lag only im talking about the fact that you can have all 60 players on the screen at the same time with explosions going on simultaneously and you wont even get a single hitch in the frame rate. Now while thats nothing new for PC, its quite an accomplishment for consoles.II_Seraphim_II

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Resistance 2 blows Halo out of the water with 60 player lagless deathmatch. You think I give a crap if there are only 2 million people playing R2? If you really want to talk about sales talk about how Nintendogs has outsold Halo 3 by some 12 million. Does that make it a better game? Sales are the only thing that Halo 3 has. With 50 million spent on advertising alone, it better have some good sales.

Camer999

hmmm, number of player=/= fun.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"] You are right, its Insomniac's fault that MS rushes devs. Thats not their problem. And I wasnt talking about lag only im talking about the fact that you can have all 60 players on the screen at the same time with explosions going on simultaneously and you wont even get a single hitch in the frame rate. Now while thats nothing new for PC, its quite an accomplishment for consoles.II_Seraphim_II

Halo 3 has much better lighting and the texture rez is though the roof for a console game, but the lack of AF makes this worthless. Yea, r2 is probably more technically impressive.

resistance 2 has horrible guns and feels like it wants to be cod4

[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"] That's incorrect. I never claimed it was insomniacs fault. I said that whilst Sony gives the devs a fantastic engine, tons of support, MS dose not. This meaking it easy for insomniac to make a better game, regardless of there skill. Also, Halo is FAR more "perfect" online then resistance.-Snooze-

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Insomniac is more technically impressive.. 60 players competitive online with virtually no lag, 8 player coop with hundreds of enemies on screen.. Also Ratchet is one of the prettiest games this gen. They also don't take as long to make a game. At least one a year

SparkyProtocol

It doesn't. There's a lot of enemies on screen, but hundreds? Yeah, no. Not even A hundred.

[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"]Insomniac, because they created three great franchises whereas bungie only made halo so far. insomniac's games are better looking too. Other than that, they take off existent ideasgamer620

Bungie is better.

[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="f50p90"]

Insomniac is more technically impressive.. 60 players competitive online with virtually no lag, 8 player coop with hundreds of enemies on screen.. Also Ratchet is one of the prettiest games this gen. They also don't take as long to make a game. At least one a year

BioShockOwnz

It doesn't. There's a lot of enemies on screen, but hundreds? Yeah, no. Not even A hundred.