Bungie sure are stupid...

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

Wut?

Yep, damn Bungie for giving us a great game. Damn them! :x

yep.. Bungie sure *ARE* stupid..

EDIT: for those who don't catch on, I'm pointing out his grammatical error

Yeah they only made millions and millions of dollars of a game that didn't take nearly as much work as a true halo sequel. What Idiots!!!

yep.. bungie sure *ARE* stupid..

Sword-Demon

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

I ain't a die hard halo fan, and i thought that ODST was great?

ODST has sold in the 4M+ range. There is absolutely no way that 4M is mostly "hardcore Halo fans".

ODST has sold in the 4M+ range. There is absolutely no way that 4M is mostly "hardcore Halo fans".

Teufelhuhn

They are stupid for making a good game and a ton of money? If this is the definition of stupid then all that time I've secretly been called "rich" and "high quality". Okay, that's awesome.

*snickers at title*

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

I got ODST for free (and a couple other games) with the deal from walmart. So Booyah!

ODST has sold in the 4M+ range. There is absolutely no way that 4M is mostly "hardcore Halo fans".

Teufelhuhn

bungie have an army of fans now 6million in size!:P

i liked odst and i didnt have the map packs before so its all good

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

fueled-system

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

Wait, what is your argument? For the first half you say Microsoft is ripping off people with a spin off/expansion pack and then you reckon the game is worth its money. Also isn't making profit what companies do? I'm sure Microsoft main objective is to make money.

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

Only people who buy Halo are "diehard fans"

There is no medium when it comes to Halo. It's Halo Fanboy or Halo Hater, there's only two groups.

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

1.) Your title should read "Bungie sure is stupid..."

2.) They included all of Halo 3's multiplayer because they wanted to free up space on people's hard drives and get all the map packs onto a disc. Plus this would be a great way to get new comers in as well as the older Halo 3 crowd. They didn't want to rework the multiplayer because they are introducing a new multiplayer component with Halo: Reach.

3.) The main draw here is the single player campaign and the new Fire Fight mode, both of which are rather good.

4.) You also forget that they included a brand new map pack that I still believe isn't out on Xbox Live yet for Halo 3 owners.

5.) How can they be stupid if the game scored well, was recieved well, sold well, and most importantly brought them a profit?

Halo 3: ODST was the first Halo game I was truly interested in since Master Chief didn't really appeal to me. I bought Halo 3 for the multiplayer but could have cared less beyond that. ODST I'm actually enjoying the single player mode, fire fight is an absolute blast, and having Halo 3's multiplayer component tossed in is just a nice bonus since it freed up about 2 gigs on my hard drive.

Also aren't you a few months late on attempting to make a point on this? This is like the guy I saw earlier complaining because Gamespot gave Gears of War Game of the Year in 2006 over Twilight Princess. Did I stumble into a time warp today or something?

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

SpiritOfFire117

Saves me Time and Money when I get a Xbox 360.

I just got into the multiplayer months before ODST (I hadn't played some since my college days with Halo 2), thus it was great for me. It just so happens that the campaign was well worth the price of entry.

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="fueled-system"]

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

fueled-system

It's still ridiculous to say a game sells due to having a name associated with angels. Where is the logic in that?

[QUOTE="fueled-system"]

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

SpiritOfFire117

Isn't it?

People actually bought MGS, SOCOM, Resistance, etc on PSP simply because it said the name on it. I love how Halo only gets singled out though. Name recognition is everywhere, not just with Halo. People bought PS3 simply because it said PlayStation on it. People bought 360 because it says Xbox on it. People buy Jordans because it says Jordan on it. Ed Hardy sells because guess what? It's Ed Hardy.

The fact that Halo gets singled out and is apparently the only thing that sells off of it's name shows how great of a game it is, and just how many jealous haters there are.

It's great how the only things people can say about Halo is "it's for 12 years old who like gay Power Rangers" like Hakoom said in his "My 100 platinums" video or "Halo sucks and only sells because it's Halo"

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="fueled-system"]

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

ThePRAssassin

Isn't it?

People actually bought MGS, SOCOM, Resistance, etc on PSP simply because it said the name on it. I love how Halo only gets singled out though. Name recognition is everywhere, not just with Halo. People bought PS3 simply because it said PlayStation on it. People bought 360 because it says Xbox on it. People buy Jordans because it says Jordan on it. Ed Hardy sells because guess what? It's Ed Hardy.

The fact that Halo gets singled out and is apparently the only thing that sells off of it's name shows how great of a game it is, and just how many jealous haters there are.

It's great how the only things people can say about Halo is "it's for 12 years old who like gay Power Rangers" like Hakoom said in his "My 100 platinums" video or "Halo sucks and only sells because it's Halo"

I'm sorry but I refuse to argue with this until you need to learn proper grammar.

ODST has sold in the 4M+ range. There is absolutely no way that 4M is mostly "hardcore Halo fans".

Teufelhuhn

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"][QUOTE="fueled-system"]

They are not stupid at all.. it makes them money.

They could realease a halo cooking mama and it would still probably sell a million copies and get 8.5+ review scores simply because it has the name halo in it.

ThePRAssassin

Isn't it?

People actually bought MGS, SOCOM, Resistance, etc on PSP simply because it said the name on it. I love how Halo only gets singled out though. Name recognition is everywhere, not just with Halo. People bought PS3 simply because it said PlayStation on it. People bought 360 because it says Xbox on it. People buy Jordans because it says Jordan on it. Ed Hardy sells because guess what? It's Ed Hardy.

The fact that Halo gets singled out and is apparently the only thing that sells off of it's name shows how great of a game it is, and just how many jealous haters there are.

It's great how the only things people can say about Halo is "it's for 12 years old who like gay Power Rangers" like Hakoom said in his "My 100 platinums" video or "Halo sucks and only sells because it's Halo"

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

have you ever evenplayed ODST? YOur acting like the maps were the entire package, the single player AND firefight were both amazing and made it easily worth the price for me. I mean obviously its not as big of a game as say Metal Gear Solid 4, or Geow 2, but its still a solid game in its own respect.

Yep, damn Bungie for giving us a great game. Damn them! :x

Stevo_the_gamer

Bungie sure are stupid...

Rob-Belmont

In a business standpoint, they got their profits, so they would be anything but stupid. Personally i got my copy on a discount and the game was awesome, but it was short compared to most FPS and it lacked matchmaking for firefight. Hopefully they'll have matchmaking firefight for Reach.

[QUOTE="ThePRAssassin"]

[QUOTE="SpiritOfFire117"] It's funny how some people say a game sells based on angelic symbolism. :roll:MGS4_GOAT

Isn't it?

People actually bought MGS, SOCOM, Resistance, etc on PSP simply because it said the name on it. I love how Halo only gets singled out though. Name recognition is everywhere, not just with Halo. People bought PS3 simply because it said PlayStation on it. People bought 360 because it says Xbox on it. People buy Jordans because it says Jordan on it. Ed Hardy sells because guess what? It's Ed Hardy.

The fact that Halo gets singled out and is apparently the only thing that sells off of it's name shows how great of a game it is, and just how many jealous haters there are.

It's great how the only things people can say about Halo is "it's for 12 years old who like gay Power Rangers" like Hakoom said in his "My 100 platinums" video or "Halo sucks and only sells because it's Halo"

Why not? Halo has won several awards, recieved huge critical success and has numerous fans playing it every day. You can say you don't like the game due to its design - but to say its not a great series is irrational fanboyism.

#1. There's a difference between 'spin-off' and 'expansion pack'. ODST is no way a spin off if it has Halo 3 in the title and includes its multiplayer.

#2. I could bet money that there are many people who didn't have the map packs or Halo 3 altogether and got ODST.

#3. It's not stupid if you make a profit. Did Bungie make a profit? More than likely.

#4. It's 'Bungie sure is stupid'.

How long was Heavenly Sword? How long was the 1st Uncharted? did either of them have Multiplayer? I know my copies didn't. One of my biggest gripes with gamers in this day and age, is that they are always so concerned with the length of the game, almost more than the quality of it. Another annoyance greater than the former is how all these little kids think the game needs multiplayer/co-op in order to be "worth it", or deem the title "terrible" because of a lack of multiplayer.moistsandwich

Those same gamers probably hate Portal to death.

I think it's safe to say that the majority of the people buying ODST, a SPIN OFF of the main Halo series, would be the most diehard Halo fans. Sure there will be others getting it, but the majority of them will be big Halo fans, fans who would have already bought all the map packs and stuff. So why did Bungie think it was a good idea to include all the maps and stuff in the game, the target audience already has them. A new single player + one new multi player mode is hardly worth the asking price, for those guys anyway. Personally I think that overall the game is good value.

I bet Microsoft put Bungie up to it in order to have something to sell in Q4 2009, we all know that Microsoft never hesitate to rush things if it means extra profit, screw the loyal customer!

Rob-Belmont

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Yep, damn Bungie for giving us a great game. Damn them! :x

II-FBIsniper-II

Anyways, if Bungie IS stupid, then I guess Sony's Game division is just brain dead (You know what I mean).

lol they are stupid for creating games that outscore and outsell most others...and are outplayed all others.

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

Yep, damn Bungie for giving us a great game. Damn them! :x

gmc2u_64

Anyways, if Bungie IS stupid, then I guess Sony's Game division is just brain dead (You know what I mean).

[QUOTE="gmc2u_64"]

[QUOTE="II-FBIsniper-II"] ODST being great is debatable.II-FBIsniper-II

Anyways, if Bungie IS stupid, then I guess Sony's Game division is just brain dead (You know what I mean).

Whenever someone mentions the latest Halo games positively, you come in randomly and act like a negative nancy, which is rather ironic.

They are stupid for making a good game and a ton of money? If this is the definition of stupid then all that time I've secretly been called "rich" and "high quality". Okay, that's awesome.

ActicEdge