Bungie vs Insomniac, which will help out the other HD console more?

So now that Bungie and Insomniac have gone multiplat, which one will help the HD console they weren't on before more?

Will Bungie get more new fans, recognition, better games, etc. on the PS3?

Or will Insomniac get more new fans, recognition, better games, etc. on the 360?

bungie is a premier developer. Insomniac isn't.

bungie is a premier developer. Insomniac isn't.

nhh18

Insominac ... xbox doesn't have many platformers if they go that route. While the PS3 has both platformers and shooters. And Personally I can't stand halo.. so unless its a myth type game or something totally new....I could care less about what bungie brings. /puts on flameshield for the halo reference.Midnightshade29

is this even debatable. insomniac is the better dev and will help the 360 more. bungie only knows one hat trick and thats halo. insomniac is waaay better than bungie n will sell more games imho

is this even debatable. insomniac is the better dev and will help the 360 more. bungie only knows one hat trick and thats halo. insomniac is waaay better than bungie n will sell more games imho

_SWAG_

You do know Halo isn't Bungie's only franchise?

I think Bungie will have a bigger impact. Insomniac makes games that are usually just seen as 'good'. Bungie is responsible for making the Halo series as popular as it is and I'm sure their talent could be used to produce any genre and it be consider great.

Bungies first super great game was halo (right?). Insomniac has done consistently great things.

And ratchet and clank rocks.

bungie is a premier developer. Insomniac isn't.

nhh18

is this even debatable. insomniac is the better dev and will help the 360 more. bungie only knows one hat trick and thats halo. insomniac is waaay better than bungie n will sell more games imho

_SWAG_

yep, because MArathon and Myth never existed. roll:

insomniac....well not much to say more than resistance and r&c. by which i mean the games are decent at best and don't sell very well.

I would say Bungie, moreso because it's a greater loss to the 360, than Insomniac is to the PS3.

Halo games made the Xbox and Xbox 360. They're the console line's killer apps.

Ratchet and Resistance are just games that are part of the PS3's library.

I'm sure Microsoft will try and keep the Halo franchise going, but I don't see it being nearly as big or as well received without Bungie at the helm.

We'll just have to wait and see which new IP is better. I doubt Bungie can pull another HALOGODGAME out of their ass...Deathtransit

They were a legend on the Mac before Microsoft bought them.

Oh TC, just because these companies are not owned by either Sony or Microsoft it doesn't necessarily mean they won't be publishing for just one system.

insomniac....well not much to say more than sly cooper and r&c. by which i mean the games are decent at best and don't sell very well.

cowgriller

Insomniac has done the PS1 Spyro games, R&C, and the Resistance series. Not Sly.

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bungie is a premier developer. Insomniac isn't.

djsifer01

Why?

Also, Resistance is overshadowed by almost every other major FPS series in a criticial sense and R&C is a franchise that has been stagnant for a LONG time and has never pushed the platforming genre forward. I fail to see how they have created some of the best franchises in gaming.

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insomniac....well not much to say more than sly cooper and r&c. by which i mean the games are decent at best and don't sell very well.

Silverbond

Insomniac has done the PS1 Spyro games, R&C, and the Resistance series. Not Sly.

oh whoops. thanks, i'll go edit my op.

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bungie is a premier developer. Insomniac isn't.

Deathtransit

How do you define premier?

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bungie is a premier developer. Insomniac isn't.

Deathtransit

ummm....yes you do. that's how you become a premier developer. the more popular your products, the more your company is worth, the more credibility and notoriety you get. der/

We'll just have to wait and see which new IP is better. I doubt Bungie can pull another HALOGODGAME out of their ass...Deathtransit

I'm looking forward to what Insomniac has to offer more. Unless it's an FPS, because..Resistance sucks. If it's a platformer, cool, cause Ratchet and Clank kicks ass.

Whether you like Halo or not, it is hard to deny the impact they've had on the FPS genre.

In comparison, Insomniac has never had any impact on anything. R&C was an incredible platformer back in its PS2 glory days, but it didn't have any lasting impact (it was mostly a highly polished and personality-filled mix of alot of 90's platforming conventions) and that series has become so stagnant. Some of the Spyro games were great platformers, but there was much more notable stuff out at the time. Resistance? The only reason the first got the attention it did was having literally nothing to compete with on the PS3 at the time. Outside of that, it is just another highly derivative FPS. Not to mention that the 2nd took a page out of the Halo playbook.

Bungie for sure in terms of sales. It's a toss up game wise since both developers know how to craft more than one type of genre of games.

Bungie will help PS3 more.

As said Bungie is a premier dev. One of the big dogs of the industry. They also have the financial backing from Activision now.

Really though, until we see what these new IPs actually are, it'll be hard to tell. Bungie does have more clout by far, but the game they are making might not appeal to people.

IMo both are overrated but insomniac is more so. I did not enjoy resistance or ratchet and clank. Halo I at least enjoyed although it is nothign AMAZING to me.

is this even debatable. insomniac is the better dev and will help the 360 more. bungie only knows one hat trick and thats halo. insomniac is waaay better than bungie n will sell more games imho

_SWAG_

That's a lillte harsh... but not far from the truth. Insomniac is the more seasoned developer with variety.

[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

is this even debatable. insomniac is the better dev and will help the 360 more. bungie only knows one hat trick and thats halo. insomniac is waaay better than bungie n will sell more games imho

MarcRecon

That's a lillte harsh... but not far from the truth. Insomniac is the more seasoned developer with variety.

How does Insomniac have more variety?

Bungie: Marathon, Myth, Halo, Oni. Two FPS games, one strategy game, a third person action game.

Insomniac: Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance. Two platformers and an FPS.

Bungie

Bungie made one amazing game in Halo : CE but Im not big fan of the sequels though, it had the curse of the sequels just like in DMC, Silent Hill and lots of other series, they didn't take risks with the core mechanics, they didn't find different content to provide, to be honest though, I know what puts me off the most, it's the universe, I don't like repeated worlds to visit in every sequel , the most they are doing now is with reach which is much appreciated, new world to visit, new flavor to the core mechanics by mixing classes, space battles...etc so what Im trying to say is the new IP will have a larger impact than what Insominiac is cooking just like the first Halo : CE, as far as sequels go , I think they will just play it safe until they feel pressured or whatever the reason could be. But hey maybe their next new IP would be one of the most enjoyable games I'll ever play making me a big fan that doesn't demand different approaches in each outing.

As for insominiac, the only games I really liked is Resistance 1 and the the first Spyro game but it's better to see a developer willing to invest their time and effort in new IPs in shorter periods of time , that makes me and the industry more enthusiastic and interested, they just love to create new IPs maybe because they didn't find their "it" game yet I don't know what is exactly the reason maybe if they made a hit or a franchise that sells 10M maybe they wouldn't made these new IPs, overall they are hit or miss but who knows maybe partnering with EA would make them much more of a capable devs.

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[QUOTE="_SWAG_"]

is this even debatable. insomniac is the better dev and will help the 360 more. bungie only knows one hat trick and thats halo. insomniac is waaay better than bungie n will sell more games imho

GreySeal9

That's a lillte harsh... but not far from the truth. Insomniac is the more seasoned developer with variety.

How does Insomniac have more variety?

Bungie: Marathon, Myth, Halo, Oni. Two FPS games, one strategy game, a third person action game.

Insomniac: Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance. Two platformers and an FPS.

Ok...I might have had a foot in the mouth moment "BUT" besides Halo...the average gamer wouldn't associate bungie with those other "not to popular'' games

Bungie made one amazing game in Halo : CE but Im not big fan of the sequels though, it had the curse of the sequels just like in DMC, Silent Hill and lots of other series, they didn't take risks with the core mechanics, they didn't find different content to provide, to be honest though, I know what puts me off the most, it's the universe, I don't like repeated worlds to visit in every sequel , the most they are doing now is with reach which is much appreciated, new world to visit, new flavor to the core mechanics by mixing classes, space battles...etc so what Im trying to say is the new IP will have a major impact on gaming just like Halo : CE did, as far as sequels go , I think they will just play it safe until they feel pressured or whatever the reason could be. But hey maybe their next new IP would be one of the most enjoyable games I'llever play making me a big fan that doesn't demand different approaches in each outing.

As for insominiac, the only games I really liked is Resistance 1 and the the first Spyro game but it's better to see a developer willing to invest their time and effort in new IPs in shorter periods of time , that makes me and the industry more enthusiastic and interested, they just love to create new IPsmaybe because they didn't find their "it" game yet I don't know what is exactly the reason maybe if they made a hit or a franchise that sells 10M maybe they wouldn't made these new IPs, overall they are hit or miss but who knows maybe partnering with EA would make them much more of a capable devs.

HAZE-Unit

Aren't both turning multiplat? Couldn't you only decide if Insomniac was working on a 360 exclusive, and Bungie was working on a PS3 one?

well Bungie will benefit Activision and Insomniac will benefit EA

dunno what else to tell ya

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[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

That's a lillte harsh... but not far from the truth. Insomniac is the more seasoned developer with variety.

MarcRecon

How does Insomniac have more variety?

Bungie: Marathon, Myth, Halo, Oni. Two FPS games, one strategy game, a third person action game.

Insomniac: Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance. Two platformers and an FPS.

Ok...I might have had a foot in the mouth moment "BUT" besides Halo...the average gamer wouldn't associate bungie with those other "not to popular'' games

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

That's a lillte harsh... but not far from the truth. Insomniac is the more seasoned developer with variety.

MarcRecon

How does Insomniac have more variety?

Bungie: Marathon, Myth, Halo, Oni. Two FPS games, one strategy game, a third person action game.

Insomniac: Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance. Two platformers and an FPS.

Ok...I might have had a foot in the mouth moment "BUT" besides Halo...the average gamer wouldn't associate bungie with those other "not to popular'' games

Maybe not but the games still exist.

But to be honest, neither Insomniac or Bungie have all that much variety in general. Tons of developers don't though.

That doesn't take away from legacy though in which Bungie has shwon they can do more than one genre. Although it should be held against Bungie that by a "what have you done for me lately" standard. They are the Halo guys. For a decade that is the only thing they have been. Those guys that make Halo games.jg4xchamp

And in 10 years, when the deal with Activision is up, Bungie will be known as the "_______ guys" by gamers.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]That doesn't take away from legacy though in which Bungie has shwon they can do more than one genre. Although it should be held against Bungie that by a "what have you done for me lately" standard. They are the Halo guys. For a decade that is the only thing they have been. Those guys that make Halo games.R3FURBISHED

And in 10 years, when the deal with Activision is up, Bungie will be known as the "_______ guys" by gamers.

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

How does Insomniac have more variety?

Bungie: Marathon, Myth, Halo, Oni. Two FPS games, one strategy game, a third person action game.

Insomniac: Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance. Two platformers and an FPS.

jg4xchamp

Ok...I might have had a foot in the mouth moment "BUT" besides Halo...the average gamer wouldn't associate bungie with those other "not to popular'' games

No no no...I'm not taking "ANYTHING" away for Bungie...I give them mad respect. Either way, I think both developers will bring something good to the table:)

[QUOTE="MarcRecon"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

How does Insomniac have more variety?

Bungie: Marathon, Myth, Halo, Oni. Two FPS games, one strategy game, a third person action game.

Insomniac: Spyro, Ratchet, Resistance. Two platformers and an FPS.

GreySeal9

Ok...I might have had a foot in the mouth moment "BUT" besides Halo...the average gamer wouldn't associate bungie with those other "not to popular'' games

Maybe not but the games still exist.

But to be honest, neither Insomniac or Bungie have all that much variety in general. Tons of developers don't though.

Agreed:P

It will atleast hopefully be a change of pace from Halo entirely. Not that I don't mind their brand of FPS, but I'm hoping that atleast their next franchise isn't a FPS. I don't mind if they do one franchise for another decade(well I guess I do) but at the least I hope it's not a FPS. jg4xchamp

The new franchise was started before the Activision deal, thank God!! So they aren't able to put in their two cents (you know) "Hey, Bungie. You guys wanna make a game like this...we would appreciate it. And remember, we did buy your company."

I don't believe that Bungie is making another FPS, I would like to see something story driven. The Halo universe is so rich and unique that Bungie could really do well from something that different. Maybe an Action Adventure, because they did enjoy making Oni.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]It will atleast hopefully be a change of pace from Halo entirely. Not that I don't mind their brand of FPS, but I'm hoping that atleast their next franchise isn't a FPS. I don't mind if they do one franchise for another decade(well I guess I do) but at the least I hope it's not a FPS. R3FURBISHED

The new franchise was started before the Activision deal, thank God!! So they aren't able to put in their two cents (you know) "Hey, Bungie. You guys wanna make a game like this...we would appreciate it. And remember, we did buy your company."

I don't believe that Bungie is making another FPS, I would like to see something story driven. The Halo universe is so rich and unique that Bungie could really do well from something that different. Maybe an Action Adventure, because they did enjoy making Oni.