Buy an N64 and play Goldeneye you'll be surprised.

Nostalgia does interesting things to the mind. Remakes are welcomed if they are fit for the game but some games should be left in the past and remembered as they were back then.

In a market where shooters currently dominate the market Goldeneye simply can't hold up. If you've heard how great it was from your friend but never got to play it don't believe him because it was an entirely different story back then.

This is nothing more than another cash grab by Activision.

okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)

okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)theuncharted34

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

I agree.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)icegamerice

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

[QUOTE="icegamerice"]

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)funsohng

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)icegamerice

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

Activision are only the publishers, man.

The actual developers are quite talented. Have you played goldeneye on the Wii?

I loaded it up today on my n64. I still have way more fun failing to kill oddjob than getting a 20 killstreak in COD. Also Goldeneye Wii was pure garbarge imo.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="icegamerice"]

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

millerlight89

Activision are only the publishers, man.

The actual developers are quite talented. Have you played goldeneye on the Wii?theuncharted34

I am aware they are publishers and don't make the game but I still don't feel the developers did it.

I did play the game on Wii and it did precisely what I suspected it would. For a Wii shooter its good, but compared to all the others that are currently out there it doesn't hold a candle anymore. In my opinion remakes are best handeld by the people who originally did them so they remain true to their original roots and also stand up to current times.

It will no doubt be better on PS3 and 360 because its an actual controller but thats not saying much. But hey its my opinion.

Edit Funshong thats possibly why you don't see where I'm coming from here. The game is praised and hailed for what it was at the time. Because of this people's expectations will be much higher than they were for the original. Because Goldeneye Wii was exactly what I expected I was not let down by it. But I garuntee you others will be.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]Activision are only the publishers, man.

The actual developers are quite talented. Have you played goldeneye on the Wii?icegamerice

I am aware they are publishers and don't make the game but I still don't feel the developers did it.

I did play the game on Wii and it did precisely what I suspected it would. For a Wii shooter its good, but compared to all the others that are currently out there it doesn't hold a candle anymore. In my opinion remakes are best handeld by the people who originally did them so they remain true to their original roots and also stand up to current times.

It will no doubt be better on PS3 and 360 because its an actual controller but thats not saying much. But hey its my opinion.

Edit Funshong thats possibly why you don't see where I'm coming from here. The game is praised and hailed for what it was at the time. Because of this people's expectations will be much higher than they were for the original. Because Goldeneye Wii was exactly what I expected I was not let down by it. But I garuntee you others will be.

But RARE is dead :P

besides, the core gameplay of the original is in tact, besides the archaic controls.

besides the archaic controls.

theuncharted34

I never thought Golden Eye was that great. Then again, I was a PC gamer and had much better choices. millerlight89

9.8 > Your choices.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]I never thought Golden Eye was that great. Then again, I was a PC gamer and had much better choices. BenGenio

9.8 > Your choices.

Goldeneye was never a good game

gets props for being one of the first console fps, but thats about it

Welp, good thing I judge games for myself and not based on some stupid ass number :lol: My Choices = amazing, Goldeneye = pretty good. Therefore my choices >>>> 9.8. See I can play that little game too. Oh yea, that little number doesn't mean **** and you know it ;)millerlight89

You are the man. I do the same thing. Just because the reviewer slaps a high score on it doesn't mean the game is good. Likewise with low scores not meaning the game is bad.

The original Goldeneye was a purer time in gaming, back before you spent 90% of an FPS staring down iron sights. The fact that Goldeneye for Wii has iron sights alone is testament to the fact that it is not Goldeneye.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]The original Goldeneye was a purer time in gaming, back before you spent 90% of an FPS staring down iron sights. The fact that Goldeneye for Wii has iron sights alone is testament to the fact that it is not Goldeneye.SilverChimera

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)icegamerice

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

You sound like you haven't played Goldeneye 007 on the Wii. Apart from a few flaws, it's actually really good and is the best game i've played on the system. It's not a remake of the Rare game, it has nothing to do with that except it's based on the same movie.

But all fps games eventually struggle. I can't play the original Half Life, I even tried Half Life Source I just couldn't play it.

But the port of the N64 version of Perfect Dark on XBLA is actually really good.

[QUOTE="theuncharted34"]okay.

The problem is, the graphics aren't the only thing getting updated. ;)icegamerice

That might be true but remakes also need to be in the right hands. Even if it was Rare remaking it it still wouldn't be the same because they suck now. Do you really trust the game in the hands of Activision?

Yes, Activision may be guilty of milking franchises, but they are still considered the biggest Third Party out there and have made quite a few good to great games.

Well I haven't played the original so I can't judge, but from what I have seen on videos, the original looks borderline unplayable in today's standard.funsohng

The original is just impossible now because its only one analog, it is 100% unplayable. :P

I know it wouldn't be very good by todays standards which is why I will never play it again.SaltyMeatballs

I probably wouldn't enjoy it as much either. FPS just don't age as well as other genres.

You sound like you haven't played Goldeneye 007 on the Wii. Apart from a few flaws, it's actually really good and is the best game i've played on the system. It's not a remake of the Rare game, it has nothing to do with that except it's based on the same movie.

But all fps games eventually struggle. I can't play the original Half Life, I even tried Half Life Source I just couldn't play it.

But the port of the N64 version of Perfect Dark on XBLA is actually really good.Darth_DuMas

I do know the things you mentioned. I have played it. I just think this is one game that was better off left in the graveyard. Its ok if you like the game but I'm clearly not the only one that thinks (despite the Wii version being good) it isn't anything like it used to be.

played it at my friends house the other day. he sucks but its still freaking fun to play.

Yeah, Goldeneye is pretty ****ing terrible. Perfect Dark, however, still offers more unique and interesting content than most shooters today, IMO.

The only reason why its hard to get into is becauseof the controls, they are hard to get used to, and the bad framerate, which was poor on most games for the N64. I don't understand why people can't comprehend that. The visuals are nothing to be surprised of, i don't know why some would expect modern visuals wen one easily needs to look on youtube.

There is a reason why Doom has aged gracefully (excluding the visuals), and its because the mouse/kb scheme has not aged one single second and its because Doom has no framerate problems.

The only reason why its hard to get into is because of the controls, they are hard to get used to. I don't understand why people can't comprehend that. The visuals are nothing to be surprised of, i don't know why some would expect modern visuals wen one easily needs to look on youtube.

There is a reason why Doom has aged gracefully (excluding the visuals), and its because the mouse/kb scheme has not aged one single second.

Lucianu

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Timstuff"]The original Goldeneye was a purer time in gaming, back before you spent 90% of an FPS staring down iron sights. The fact that Goldeneye for Wii has iron sights alone is testament to the fact that it is not Goldeneye.Timstuff

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

The only reason why its hard to get into is because of the controls, they are hard to get used to. I don't understand why people can't comprehend that. The visuals are nothing to be surprised of, i don't know why some would expect modern visuals wen one easily needs to look on youtube.

There is a reason why Doom has aged gracefully (excluding the visuals), and its because the mouse/kb scheme has not aged one single second.

nintendoboy16

Bet you were fine with the Wii version though weren't you. :roll:

It's not just the graphics getting updated. I still own my N64 as well, just as I do every console to the NES. I've never sold one. Goldeneye still holds up.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Lucianu"]

The only reason why its hard to get into is because of the controls, they are hard to get used to. I don't understand why people can't comprehend that. The visuals are nothing to be surprised of, i don't know why some would expect modern visuals wen one easily needs to look on youtube.

There is a reason why Doom has aged gracefully (excluding the visuals), and its because the mouse/kb scheme has not aged one single second.

FPSDad1161

Perfect Dark is better anyways.

[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

The only reason why its hard to get into is because of the controls, they are hard to get used to. I don't understand why people can't comprehend that. The visuals are nothing to be surprised of, i don't know why some would expect modern visuals wen one easily needs to look on youtube.

There is a reason why Doom has aged gracefully (excluding the visuals), and its because the mouse/kb scheme has not aged one single second.

nintendoboy16

DOS Doom supported the mouse + keyboard choice on the back then, i checked on google. You couldn't look up or down, but you could use the mouse to look left or right, and change the control scheme on the keyboard to WASD. It's fully playable like that, but its to easy without aiming up or down (auto aim), so i don't prefer it.

To be honest, i didn't play the game until 2010 trough a source port were i could use the mouse as in modern shooters, but i do know the original release had the control scheme choice with certainty. I guess i am biased a bit, i play Doom with mods (the sourceport, HD textures, full mouselock) like this:

Bet you were fine with the Wii version though weren't you. :roll:

It's not just the graphics getting updated. I still own my N64 as well, just as I do every console to the NES. I've never sold one. Goldeneye still holds up.

Puckhog04

Eh, if you're used to the controls, then it'll certainly be fully playable. But for people that aren't used to its control scheme and refuse to get used to it, it wont.

Framerate is another thing that can hold a game from aging gracefully. Goldeneye has bad framerate.

Perfect Dark is better anyways.

mitu123

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Bet you were fine with the Wii version though weren't you. :roll:

It's not just the graphics getting updated. I still own my N64 as well, just as I do every console to the NES. I've never sold one. Goldeneye still holds up.

Lucianu

Eh, if you're used to the controls, then it'll certainly be fully playable. But for people that aren't used to its control scheme and refuse to get used to it, it wont.

Framerate is another thing that can hold a game from aging gracefully. Goldeneye has bad framerate.

Pretty easy control scheme to adapt to. Then again, if you were never very good at it to begin with it would be hopeless after so long. Enough people owned/played Goldeneye to where I think it would be second nature. Bad Framerate? Yes. Unplayable framerate? By no means.

By Source port, do you mean a mod for the Source engine? Because I think they already had mods like this before Source. I'm pretty sure there was also a mod that remade Doom (and possibly Doom 2) in the Doom 3 engine as well, if I remember correctly. Been a long time since I played a game on a PC and even longer since I messed around with Doom.FPSDad1161

Eh, no. A source port is software that can run a game on modern rigs without complications.

For those visuals, i mearly used Skulltag (my favorite source port) and a HD texture pack.

You can also choose to play the game with the original control scheme, visuals and everything like it were in 1993.

Doom is one of my favorite games of all times, i replayed it the most, i think its ben at least 20 times. On Nightmare, no game has given me such entertainment, i really think this game is a wonder that aged incredibly well.

I tried that, I was surprised it sucked so badly LoL, the graphics was unbearable to me.