By SW logic, GTA IV is a 360 exclusive, and Bioshock is a PC exclusive

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#51 gamergeekgeek
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I disagree with you, Sigma is a PS3 exclusive because of the massive new content found such as:

a) new enemies

b) new playable characters

c) sixaxis control features

d) new weapons

e) new bosses

f) new levels

g) completely new graphics engine made specificall for PS3

Now how can this be a port? it wouldnt make sense it's a remake with massive new content.

WalterPaladines

Sigma is not PS3 exclusive because
same story
same main character
same maps
same design
same old gameplay
=port

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#52 gamergeekgeek
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[QUOTE="Mercenary343"]So Virtua Fighter 5 is an exclusive 360 game because it has a completely new online mode and 2 new characters?Magical_Zebra

Dont forget Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for the Xbox. That was exclusive also... :shock:

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#53 Hewkii
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I disagree with you, Sigma is a PS3 exclusive because of the massive new content found such as:

a) new enemies

b) new playable characters

c) sixaxis control features

d) new weapons

e) new bosses

f) new levels

g) completely new graphics engine made specificall for PS3

Now how can this be a port? it wouldnt make sense it's a remake with massive new content.

WalterPaladines

minus C and G, all of those are in the PC version of Gears, and I think that's considered a port.

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#54 naval
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[QUOTE="naval"]hmm ... good post , but the point that NGS was made using a new graphics engine also sound a bit convincing. Consider this : lets's say there was a remake of say FF7 on 360 ( I know it's improbabale, but just assume it for now), using ut3 engine with few extra missions, would that be called an exclusive or not even though it was present on PS1?. IMO it should be.Antti88

I say that if the main story would be same it would be remake.

Edit:spaces

Just a remake, ok fine. Let me put it this way. I have never played FF7, I want to and tried but the graphics looked terrible( I am not a graphics whore but still after seeing latest games I cannot go back to those graphics :( ). SO only way I will ever get to play is on 360 i.e I don't have any option and hence the 360 version is exclusive for me. I think same would be true for most of the people. This is what I think :)

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#55 Echo13791
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All these posts make me laugh :D. My personal opinion is that NGS should count as an exclusive because of the update graphics. The GTA VI thing is ridiculous because its just more content to the exact same game. NGS is more content to the exact same game with NEW graphics. lol, i even laugh at my own post :(. There should be a word for a rehash/exclusive. Can we make one?  
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#56 Killer2401
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There is a difference between exclusive content and exclusive games.
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#57 Antti88
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@Naval

Well that is your opinion and i respect that.

I'm not bothered by the graphic difference in fact I just recently bought Xbox360 and latest game i have bought is Ninja Gaiden Black (I love and hate that game).

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#58 Slyprince
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I think exclusivity has become subjective

and can no longer be based on fact because of NG:Sigma

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#59 naval
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Well that is your opinion and i respect that.

I'm not bothered by the graphic difference in fact I just recently bought Xbox360 and latest game i have bought is Ninja Gaiden Black (I love and hate that game).

Antti88

yeah ... cool, things like these always boil down preferences. I just posting too point out the reason in comparison to the GTA IV logic.

Also, differnce b/w NGB is not that much in the case which I pointed so you can play it easily . Btw that game is just great( in fact it is my favourite console game). I also understand the love hate relationship, many time just wanted to throw the constroler and break the televsion or throw xbox out of the window :)

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#60 Hexagon_777
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NGS is PS3 exclusive...

RE4 Wii counts as a Wii exclusive...

I hear it almost everyday in some debate with regard to the exclusives battle that is raging here in SW, and it's starting to annoy the hell out of me.

This is the common NGS argument:

"If a game has any exclusive content that is not available in the other versions, then it counts as an exclusive."

And this is the common RE4 Wii argument:

"The new controls and crosshair mean that this game counts as a Wii exclusive."

I am tired of hearing this rubbish, and I am going to destroy both of these arguments right now.

First of all, let's deal with the Ninja Gaiden Sigma argument.

Cows say that NGS is PS3 exclusive simply because it adds new content to the base game which originally came out for Xbox called Ninja Gaiden (followed by Ninja Gaiden Black). If what the cows say is true, then Grand Theft Auto IV is a 360 exclusive, and the PS3 is getting another game altogether that shoud, from here on in, be known as Grand Theft Auto "sorta" IV, as it is lacking the two exclusive episodes from the real Grand Theft Auto IV.

Do you see the lapse in logic? By saying that NGS is a PS3 exclusive game, you are saying that any game with bonus content counts as an exclusive to the system on which said content is available. This is ludacris!

Let's set something straight: A game is not an exclusive if the original base game is available on another platform. Period.

If you want to tout the exclusive content of a particular title, then you shoud do just that: Tout the exclusive content, but do not try and pass off the game as an exclusive game to your system.

I suggest that it be an SW rule that no game thatis available in some form on another platform, regardless of the bonus content, can be counted as an exclusive.Fair enough?

Now onto the RE4 Wii argument. This one is much less complicated and far easier to defeat.

You sheep say that RE4 Wii counts as an exclusive due to the different and "innovative" controls? Well, then that means that all games that are released on PC that are also available on consoles, should count as PC exclusive, because the PC has a different method of input.

Therefore, the upcoming title, Bioshock, should count as a PC exclusive because it has different controls than the other version.

Do you see what I'm getting at?

A game should not count as an exclusive unless it is a new game exclusive to that platform. THE METHOD OF INPUT IS IRRELEVANT!

There, I've had my little rant for the day, and I only yelled in caps one time. Thanks for reading; it's good to get that settled.

jetthrovegas

I have never seen a sheep say that Resident Evil 4 for the Wii counts as an exclusive due to the different and innovative controls. Never. I have read the whole of this thread as well and have only seen cows defend Ninja Gaiden Sigma, saying that it is an exclusive. No sheep so far, though.

However, I have seen sheep say that Resident Evil 4 for the Wii is the definintive version. It would be great if you could link me to any page where a sheep states that Resident Evil 4 for the Wii is exclusive.

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#62 jetthrovegas
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Some of these posts are truly insane. People are saying that NGS should be considered a PS3 exclusive because it has better graphics than NGB or NG.

If graphics are the defining factor for exclusivity, then Bioshock is exclusive to the PC because it can run in DX10. This is insane!

If graphics are what matters, then Splinter Cell Double Agent is exclusive to the 360 because the PS3 version has inferior graphics (frame rate, glitches, etc.)

The second we trick ourselves into thinking that graphically enhanced versions of old games, even with bonus content, = exclusive, is the second we open an enormous can of worms

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#63 KrazyKev26
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Bah this topic smells of WTF farts. FACT, none of these games are exculsive ok ok ok? good ok done deal now lets move on.
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#64 jetthrovegas
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Bah this topicsmells ofWTFfarts. FACT none of these games are exculsive ok ok ok? good ok done deal now lets move on.KrazyKev26

Do us all a favor, and please read the OP before posting. Thank you.