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#1 leadernator
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

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#2 hockeyruler12
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wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

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translation: mooooooo mooo moo mooooooooo
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#4 KzerXtreme
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If that doesn't work out, we'll hear "just wait till 2009!"
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#5 xboxdevil
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I think you underestimate Microsoft, but I believe your right about the Wii. The best is yet to come with the 360, the PS3 hasn't even begun to tap it's potential, and I think we've seen as much as we're going to with the Wii.
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

leadernator

Proof/reasoning please? The Xbox 360 could have just as much undiscovered potential as the PS3 and no one would care anyway unless it finds some decent exclusives by end of 08.

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If that doesn't work out, we'll hear "just wait till 2009!"KzerXtreme

The just wait station 3!

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If that doesn't work out, we'll hear "just wait till 2009!"KzerXtreme

(2009)

By the end of 2010 we will all relize...

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#9 LinKuei_warrior
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translation: mooooooo mooo moo mooooooooocruzer167

thats all i heard....

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lol
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#11 killab2oo5
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O.o A 29 saying this,thought you would atleast have some common sense."Unreal Tounrnament 3 will have Gears of War Plus graphics." as stated by Mark Rein...and it does,meaning the 360 isnt tapped out.The 360 screens look AMAZING;)Thats all I wanted to disprove,.
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#12 scorched1992
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Well actually the pc has the most potential.

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#14 hamstergeddon
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PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

leadernator

You lost all credibility there
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#15 ironcreed
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wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

hockeyruler12

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

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#17 jacky531
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

hamstergeddon


You lost all credibility there

NO

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#19 leadernator
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O.o A 29 saying this,thought you would atleast have some common sense."Unreal Tounrnament 3 will have Gears of War Plus graphics." as stated by Mark Rein...and it does,meaning the 360 isnt tapped out.The 360 screens look AMAZING;)Thats all I wanted to disprove,.killab2oo5

yeah, us 29s like to have a little fun.

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#20 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

jacky531

HE SPEAKS TRUTH

hey thanks man.

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#21 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

hamstergeddon


You lost all credibility there

people really don't know how to use this common statement correctly.

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#22 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

jacky531

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

NO

You and TC oneand the same or what?

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[QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

ironcreed

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

Why does everyone always forget the darkness? that game looks better than Crysis. (no joke, watch this)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u037GYDH0O4

none of that is CGI. every bit has been played live on floor. Well what would you expect from the guys who made riddick?

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#24 RichieRich555
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PS3 has the most potential,with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

Let me bold every thing that is an opinion.

Nice post :)

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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

jacky531

HE SPEAKS TRUTH


You speak crap.

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#26 leadernator
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wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

hockeyruler12

there's a crystal ball in all of us.

if ANALysts can do it, so can we. so can we.

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#27 dudy80
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That the ps3 is a doomed over-priced grill? Whos idea was it to make a game system/grill anywyas?
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#28 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential,with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

RichieRich555

Let me bold every thing that is an opinion.

Nice post :)

thanks!

opinions are the backbone of system wars.

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#29 ironcreed
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

Educated_Gamer

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

Why does everyone always forget the darkness? that game looks better than Crysis. (no joke, watch this)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u037GYDH0O4

none of that is CGI. every bit has been played live on floor. Well what would you expect from the guys who made riddick?

Oh I agree that The Darkness is going to be killer and I plan on picking it up here in a couple of weeks when it releases. But better looking than Crysis? LOL...come on, man.

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That the ps3 is a doomed over-priced grill? Whos idea was it to make a game system/grill anywyas? dudy80

George Foreman...oh wait

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#31 RichieRich555
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[QUOTE="RichieRich555"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential,with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

Let me bold every thing that is an opinion.

Nice post :)

thanks!

opinions are the backbone of system wars.

Really? When I'm trying to prove a point i try and use facts.
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#32 85070537783
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The PS3 may very well not reach the end of the 2008.
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#33 dudy80
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The PS3 may very well not reach the end of the 2008.85070537783

Most grills only last a few years, that fairly good as my george forman lasted like 6 months.

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#34 Danm_999
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There's another scenario I'd like to pose. It's just as probable (if not more so since I'll use some logical predictions) than yours. By the end of 2008, this could happen:

The inflated price of the PS3 sees it give an unreachable lead to both the Wii and 360 in userbases in Xmas 07 and 08, forcing developers to share PS3 exclusives with those platforms or forego expensive development cost on a platform that is unlikely to see their expenses returned. Sony will thus lose many of the third party titles which made the PS2 and PS1 successes.

HDTV adoption rates proceed as they have been predicted, meaning a minority of people have HDTVs in their households by 2008. This removes the allure of HD technology and thus Blu-ray as people stick with the cheap and accessibel DVDs, making the Blu-ray player an expensive and troublesome deadweight to the PS3. Meanwhile, stand alone Blu-ray players have depreciated in price well beyond the price of a PS3 completely removing the allure of the PS3 as a multimedia device. Meanwhile, the 360 is able to minimalize damage caused here by offering an optional HD DVD add on.

Sony's online program proceeds along better than it did with the PS2, but without a sustainable source of revenue like XBL, it either becomes a great service which is massively unprofitable, or a neglected service which is economically sustainable.

Of course, you and I could both be wrong (I expect we are) and a bunch of unseen variables could take us down paths we haven't anticipated.

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[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

Educated_Gamer

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

Why does everyone always forget the darkness? that game looks better than Crysis. (no joke, watch this)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u037GYDH0O4

none of that is CGI. every bit has been played live on floor. Well what would you expect from the guys who made riddick?

looks better than Crysis? lol

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[QUOTE="Educated_Gamer"][QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

scorched1992

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

Why does everyone always forget the darkness? that game looks better than Crysis. (no joke, watch this)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u037GYDH0O4

none of that is CGI. every bit has been played live on floor. Well what would you expect from the guys who made riddick?

looks better than Crysis? lol

Yea, crysis is looking great, nothing on the consoles is even close yeat imo, and its fact that pc gaming just has better graphics... I love my 360 but im a pc junkie at heart. Just dont have the cash to drop on a high end pc atm.

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#37 hamstergeddon
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

leadernator


You lost all credibility there

people really don't know how to use this common statement correctly.


what, the fact that I stopped believing you and disregarded any other argument you said after that statement?  I think I used it pretty accurately
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#38 leadernator
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There's another scenario I'd like to pose. It's just as probable (if not more so since I'll use some logical predictions) than yours. By the end of 2008, this could happen:

The inflated price of the PS3 sees it give an unreachable lead to both the Wii and 360 in userbases in Xmas 07 and 08, forcing developers to share PS3 exclusives with those platforms or forego expensive development cost on a platform that is unlikely to see their expenses returned. Sony will thus lose many of the third party titles which made the PS2 and PS1 successes.

HDTV adoption rates proceed as they have been predicted, meaning a minority of people have HDTVs in their households by 2008. This removes the allure of HD technology and thus Blu-ray as people stick with the cheap and accessibel DVDs, making the Blu-ray player an expensive and troublesome deadweight to the PS3. Meanwhile, stand alone Blu-ray players have depreciated in price well beyond the price of a PS3 completely removing the allure of the PS3 as a multimedia device. Meanwhile, the 360 is able to minimalize damage caused here by offering an optional HD DVD add on.

Sony's online program proceeds along better than it did with the PS2, but without a sustainable source of revenue like XBL, it either becomes a great service which is massively unprofitable, or a neglected service which is economically sustainable.

Of course, you and I could both be wrong (I expect we are) and a bunch of unseen variables could take us down paths we haven't anticipated.

Danm_999

you know what, both or our scenarios can work together...

all the positives i made about the PS3 were strictly towards the machine's potential (the great games will come from the dedicated developers), and not towards its success in the market.

although i hope i'm wrong, i've always believed that PS3 took the N64 route this gen, where the really great games show up every now and then... rather than the PSOne route having a variety of games + above average games coming out every month.

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#39 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

hamstergeddon


You lost all credibility there

people really don't know how to use this common statement correctly.


what, the fact that I stopped believing you and disregarded any other argument you said after that statement? I think I used it pretty accurately

no, because you used the statement on the point which is most likely true.

PSN gets plenty of features with every FW update, and the updates are pretty constant as well. There's still a few features that XBL has exclusively at the moment, but its nothing a new FW update can't do, not to mention the gap is closing really fast.

to add to that, Home will be available soon... nobody really knows what that will do with the online gaming community, but so far it does seem like a step in the right direction.

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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

1: You wish.

2: Irrational thinking. Implies that devs on 360 suddenly get brain freeze and assumes that no progression is ever made again.

3: Seems unlikely. A server-based thing like that can't do stuff to the magnitude of XBL and remain free for too long. PSN, IMO, will most likely stay where it's at (plus Home), in its perfectly decent and serviceable state. I have no problems with that, actually: I do like PSN.

4: This statement assumes that the rest of the above statements are proven facts. They are not.

5: Bungie slips up for the first time ever, especially with how goshdarned fun that demo was? In that case, I'm calling it now: Starcraft 2 6.4. It's quite probable, by your logic.

6: Youtube is on the verge of breaking the internet already. As much as I would love streaming, embeddable HD quality low-compression videos for comparison, it's probably not going to happen that soon. Screenshots can be posted on a message board and viewed by everybody, so they're still the most convenient.

7: Already being proven wrong. The Wii's success has been built on the casual family market, true, but the same was with the PS2. Did the PS2 have problems with that? No, not really.

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#42 hamstergeddon
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

leadernator


You lost all credibility there

people really don't know how to use this common statement correctly.


what, the fact that I stopped believing you and disregarded any other argument you said after that statement? I think I used it pretty accurately

no, because you used the statement on the point which is most likely true.

PSN gets plenty of features with every FW update, and the updates are pretty constant as well. There's still a few features that XBL has exclusively at the moment, but its nothing a new FW update can't do, not to mention the gap is closing really fast.

to add to that, Home will be available soon... nobody really knows what that will do with the online gaming community, but so far it does seem like a step in the right direction.


well, I'm sure that most of SW will agree with me when I say that XBL is better than PSN, but that's a matter of opinion.  And if its your opinion is that PSN is better than XBL, then you lose your credibility in my eyes because your opinion differs so humungously from the vast majority's
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#43 deluxemando
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I think you underestimate Microsoft, but I believe your right about the Wii. The best is yet to come with the 360, the PS3 hasn't even begun to tap it's potential, and I think we've seen as much as we're going to with the Wii. xboxdevil

You're knowledge of the wii and it's releases is about 10-15%. You know almost nothing about what is coming out on the wii...the graphics and depth of what is to come out on the wii. Just for a second, calm down that I'm semi-insulting you, and REALLY ask yourself..how much do you know about the wii and it's releases. Almost nothing, I'd bet.

"I think we've seen as much as we're going to with the wii." Lol I wonder if you remember the first 7 months of the 360 release..hmm. (Btw just to name a few: super smash brawl, metroid 3, no more heroes, project rygar, soul calibur legends, project hammer, battallion wars 2, final fantasy CB, and the list goes on)

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#44 -Beowulf
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

PS3 probably does have the most potential, but it's certainly not being put to good use, and that's what matters. A console can have all the potential in the world, but if the games look like PS2 games it's useless.

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#45 deluxemando
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

mutenpika

1: You wish.

2: Irrational thinking. Implies that devs on 360 suddenly get brain freeze and assumes that no progression is ever made again.

3: Seems unlikely. A server-based thing like that can't do stuff to the magnitude of XBL and remain free for too long. PSN, IMO, will most likely stay where it's at (plus Home), in its perfectly decent and serviceable state. I have no problems with that, actually: I do like PSN.

4: This statement assumes that the rest of the above statements are proven facts. They are not.

5: Bungie slips up for the first time ever, especially with how goshdarned fun that demo was? In that case, I'm calling it now: Starcraft 2 6.4. It's quite probable, by your logic.

6: Youtube is on the verge of breaking the internet already. As much as I would love streaming, embeddable HD quality low-compression videos for comparison, it's probably not going to happen that soon. Screenshots can be posted on a message board and viewed by everybody, so they're still the most convenient.

7: Already being proven wrong. The Wii's success has been built on the casual family market, true, but the same was with the PS2. Did the PS2 have problems with that? No, not really.

whoa. mass ownage. sorry TC you just go whipped.

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#46 joe_g_patton
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

leadernator


You lost all credibility there

people really don't know how to use this common statement correctly.


what, the fact that I stopped believing you and disregarded any other argument you said after that statement? I think I used it pretty accurately

no, because you used the statement on the point which is most likely true.

PSN gets plenty of features with every FW update, and the updates are pretty constant as well. There's still a few features that XBL has exclusively at the moment, but its nothing a new FW update can't do, not to mention the gap is closing really fast.

to add to that, Home will be available soon... nobody really knows what that will do with the online gaming community, but so far it does seem like a step in the right direction.

You still haven't said anything to support your claim that PSN is EQUAL, if not BETTER than Live. I own both systems, and I'mfinally starting to really enjoy the PS3. I agree that the firmware updates have been great(especially 1.8 ).IMHO, the PSN has to match Live's unified friend list among other things before it can even be considered to be "in the same ballpark" as XBox Live.

edit: unintentional smiley face.

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#47 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

mutenpika

1: You wish.

IT's not out of the question at all. Gamespot themselves already claims Motorstorm to be one of the greatest graphical achievements to date (too bad the game fell a bit short), and at the end of this year many ofPS3s most anticipated will be available. I forgot what that guys name was... he's that guy in one of the G4 shows, and he stated that "Sony is finally showcasing games that's not possible on the 360." He said that after Sony's big San Diego event. you can check it out on G4.com if you'd like, i'm just sorry i can't provide his name... but he's that guy that has a show with morgan webb, who people think is hot for some reason.

He's probably not the most credible guy out there, but he's not the only one saying it as well. I'm just trying to tell you that the possibility is definitely there.

2: Irrational thinking. Implies that devs on 360 suddenly get brain freeze and assumes that no progression is ever made again.

Well it did happen to the Dreamcast, even though there were many hits after Soul Calibur.

3: Seems unlikely. A server-based thing like that can't do stuff to the magnitude of XBL and remain free for too long. PSN, IMO, will most likely stay where it's at (plus Home), in its perfectly decent and serviceable state. I have no problems with that, actually: I do like PSN.

Glad you like it.

4: This statement assumes that the rest of the above statements are proven facts. They are not.

Never passed them out as facts. but "likely."

5: Bungie slips up for the first time ever, especially with how goshdarned fun that demo was? In that case, I'm calling it now: Starcraft 2 6.4. It's quite probable, by your logic.

It probably is fun... its just like what people are saying about the Warhawk Beta. Halo 3 really isn't taking any risks, which could be bad considering the HUGE name it has behind it. You can blame other shooters for that. GeOW for example... not exactly a fps, but you can't deny that we'll be hearing comparisons later. you have shooters that are more anticipated as well, such as Haze, Crysis, and dare-i-say Killzone2 (you can't deny the hype behind this game). If the Halo series can't evolve, then it will be crushed by competition. I've never played a StarCraft game before, but that genre isn't nearly as saturated as the FPS genre.

6: Youtube is on the verge of breaking the internet already. As much as I would love streaming, embeddable HD quality low-compression videos for comparison, it's probably not going to happen that soon. Screenshots can be posted on a message board and viewed by everybody, so they're still the most convenient.

Most convenient, but still pointless. everyone looks for the worst shots, and the rest look for the best. it's getting old, and will be old soon. they will be there for sure, but will never be used as proving grounds ever.

7: Already being proven wrong. The Wii's success has been built on the casual family market, true, but the same was with the PS2. Did the PS2 have problems with that? No, not really.

the PS2 was never branded as a "family" console. "casual," yes, but family is a whole different subject. The Wii will be (and currently is) criticized for the lack of "WOW" games. And until we see some, we won't take it seriously... Smooth Moves, Cooking Mama...just doesn't cut it. I really want Smash Bros. but that's about it. And of course, i do not speak for everyone.

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[QUOTE="xboxdevil"]I think you underestimate Microsoft, but I believe your right about the Wii. The best is yet to come with the 360, the PS3 hasn't even begun to tap it's potential, and I think we've seen as much as we're going to with the Wii. deluxemando

You're knowledge of the wii and it's releases is about 10-15%. You know almost nothing about what is coming out on the wii...the graphics and depth of what is to come out on the wii. Just for a second, calm down that I'm semi-insulting you, and REALLY ask yourself..how much do you know about the wii and it's releases. Almost nothing, I'd bet.

"I think we've seen as much as we're going to with the wii." Lol I wonder if you remember the first 7 months of the 360 release..hmm. (Btw just to name a few: super smash brawl, metroid 3, no more heroes, project rygar, soul calibur legends, project hammer, battallion wars 2, final fantasy CB, and the list goes on)

I was referring to your little Wii's capabilties, ya Wii-tard. Don't even talk about the graphics, you're just embarrassing yourself.
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If that doesn't work out, we'll hear "just wait till 2009!"KzerXtreme

lol, i think ps3 does have the most potential as far as graphics go. i read that uncharted is currently using about 1/3 of ps3s power and that game looks really really good.

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did he say the ps3's online is free and EQUAL if not BETTER!?!!? hahahhahaahahahahahaha