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#101 black_awpN1
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BTW: Both Consoles gaems will look almost the same, the only difference makers will be exclusive games. The hardware has roughly th esame power with PS3 havein gadvantages and 360 having advantages. Dont make it sound like the PS3 is so much superior when its not.
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#102 Michael85
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By the end of 2008, I would have given 9,856 fanboys 487 valid reasons why their console of choice is getting its ass kicked by the Wii STILL, and none of them will have accepted any of them.
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#103 black_awpN1
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By the end of 2008, I would have given 9,856 fanboys 487 valid reasons why their console of choice is getting its ass kicked by the Wii STILL, and none of them will have accepted any of them.Michael85

Bazing.

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#104 leadernator
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Why, that wasnt th emost Bised idiotic post ive read all day. (ok it was.) Im sorry, but when you said th e360 is maxed out and PS3s first gen games will do what 360 can never dream of, you officaly went down a few levels on the intellegence meter. Where are these great first gen games your talking about? I havent seen them yet even in previews.
black_awpN1

looks like i really made you mad. awesome.

really now, haven't even seen them in previews? well let me throw the bias meter back on your side there pal.

awesome.

Flaming won't get you anywhere. Anger won't get you anywhere.

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#105 blackace
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

Sounds like a biase wish list on your part. To bad there's no magic lamp around for you to rub. Looks like a lot of rubbish to me. :roll:

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#106 leadernator
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BTW: Both Consoles gaems will look almost the same, the only difference makers will be exclusive games. The hardware has roughly th esame power with PS3 havein gadvantages and 360 having advantages. Dont make it sound like the PS3 is so much superior when its not.
black_awpN1

looks like you made a part 2. got riled up that much?

i didn't make it sound like the PS3 is much more superior... the devs did:P

oh yeah, and so did adam sesler (spelling?). yeah man, the one and only adam sesler.

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#107 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

blackace

Sounds like a biase wish list on your part. To bad there's no magic lamp around for you to rub. Looks like a lot of rubbish to me. :roll:

dude, it's not even as much bias as you putting a 360 on your avatar.

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#108 blackace
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Well actually the pc has the most potential.

scorched1992

Only because it can be continuously upgraded again and again and again. The PC can't be compared to a game console for that reason alone.

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#109 subrosian
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By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

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#110 blackace
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

Sounds like a biase wish list on your part. To bad there's no magic lamp around for you to rub. Looks like a lot of rubbish to me. :roll:

dude, it's not even as much bias as you putting a 360 on your avatar.

Ones avatar, does not mean that one is biase. I own all the old generation systems from the PS2, SNES, XBox, PSP, Wii, Turbographics, N64, DS Lite, etc..., etc..., etc.. I'm far from biase. Reread your comments and tell me you're not biase. 360 tapped out with Gears of War? LOL!! Is that a joke? The Dreamcast wasn't even tapped out with S.C. The price will be the reason for most people not to buy the PS3 in 2008. Until they get it under $400, I won't even touch it.

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#111 joeychew
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we will see...
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By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

subrosian

hey man, anyone can come inhere and list a bunch of games they're looking forward to. there's nothing special about that.

if you are right, i wouldn't expect one 360 fanboy posting here by years end. not one... you know that's not going to happen. haha.

i can't wait for SSBB either.. smooth moves and cooking mama just isn't my thing.

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#113 Daytona_178
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hmm well from what i have heard Xbox Live is the best of any console atm!
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#114 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

blackace

Sounds like a biase wish list on your part. To bad there's no magic lamp around for you to rub. Looks like a lot of rubbish to me. :roll:

dude, it's not even as much bias as you putting a 360 on your avatar.

Ones avatar, does not mean that one is biase. I own all the old generation systems from the PS2, SNES, XBox, PSP, Wii, Turbographics, N64, DS Lite, etc..., etc..., etc.. I'm far from biase. Reread your comments and tell me you're not biase. 360 tapped out with Gears of War? LOL!! Is that a joke? The Dreamcast wasn't even tapped out with S.C. The price will be the reason for most people not to buy the PS3 in 2008. Until they get it under $400, I won't even touch it.

everyone has bias. there's no way, not even how hard you try owning every system out there, not to have bias. you have your favorites, and you'll stick to them. that's the way it is. don't come in here and give me a freaking resume of all the systems you owned. i can do the same thing... it won't prove anything.

the closest game to S.C on the DC was Shenmue.... and although it was a massive game for its time, it still didn't look nearly as good.

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#115 loudharley
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How can u say that halo 3s screenshots are bad when all weve seen is the multiplayer beta at this point.This is just another one of those childish my system is better than your system .Ps3s online service is no were near as good as 360s,trust me ive played both.I like my 360 and my wii and enjoy them on a daily basis,u should try and do the same with your wonderful ps3 instead of coming on here trying to tell people how bad there console is when they no better.If the ps3 wins this so called console war have fun at the sonys victory party,if u get invited.
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#116 leadernator
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we will see...joeychew

that we will.

you participate in system wars, you gotta pick a side. non of that mediator crap.

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#117 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"]

By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

leadernator

hey man, anyone can come inhere and list a bunch of games they're looking forward to. there's nothing special about that.

if you are right, i wouldn't expect one 360 fanboy posting here by years end. not one... you know that's not going to happen. haha.

i can't wait for SSBB either.. smooth moves and cooking mama just isn't my thing.



Anyone who fails to recognize Too Human as *the* most important title this generation is not a gamer. Name any other title that has been in development on *all three* of the Big Three (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) platforms. Moving from PS1 to GCN to Xbox 360 ... Too Human has been in development a long time, take a look at their site sometime, the amount of mythology research they put into it that they reveal to fans is *insane* - let alone their own research.

Anyone denying that Too Human is something that shouldnot be hotly anticipated isn't a gamer - that's all there is to it - it's beyond fanboyism, it's like pretending Chrono Trigger isn't a JRPG - it's a punishable offense.

Seriously - Too Human is the first "manticore" software to go system exclusive, and frankly any other title thrown up as a "comparison" is simply an act of blindness, no hack-n-slash has the depth, no RPG short of Final Fantasy VI / VII or Fallout 2 has the storyline to compete...


360 fanboys were diminshed on here during the entire Halo 3 Beta - the posting level from 360 fans was just down to the point where a Wii fanboy post that any 360 fanboy took on was a pointless fight - just completely outnumbered. Look, I appreciate the PS3 - and i'm really glad you have time time frame right - end of 2008 is when the PS3 titles are coming, but please, spare me the "list of games" - arguement for Too Human. Yeah yeah, PGR4 and Alan Wake are pretty "list-o-games" - dropping Bioshock (system shock 2 spiritual sequel), Blue Dragon (chrono trigger's spiritual sequel) and Too Human (...there's nothing to say here, I think it might cure cancer...) is *huge* - you can even ignore Halo 3 (system seller) from the debate, when it comes down to talking about games for gamers - those three are it - and when you add Halo 3, the "pop star" of the 360, I don't know.

Halo 2 still has a huge following, three years later, so just pretending we're all going to jump on the PS3 is short-sighted. The Too Human and Mass Effect trilogies will still be being released in late 2008, and Halo Wars will be coming out... plus, Gears 2...
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#118 NinjaFoot
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

hamstergeddon


You lost all credibility there

My thoughts exactly.

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#119 leadernator
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How can u say that halo 3s screenshots are bad when all weve seen is the multiplayer beta at this point.This is just another one of those childish my system is better than your system .Ps3s online service is no were near as good as 360s,trust me ive played both.I like my 360 and my wii and enjoy them on a daily basis,u should try and do the same with your wonderful ps3 instead of coming on here trying to tell people how bad there console is when they no better.If the ps3 wins this so called console war have fun at the sonys victory party,if u get invited.loudharley

at this point, there is just no way a game can take a massive graphical overhaul. minor improvements, maybe but that's all you're really going to get.

fact is, there are already games that look better, and with the name halo has established up until now, it's dissappointing.

people really shouldn't assume who's enjoying their systems... in system wars. you're participating in this forum too, don't forget that.

no one's in it for a console victory party, people just want to see that they are right.

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#120 leadernator
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[QUOTE="hamstergeddon"][QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

NinjaFoot


You lost all credibility there

My thoughts exactly.

both of your thoughts are telling you to go back to the 1st page, and with the topic of this thread, try to understand what was really said.

it's all good. you guys weren't the only ones.

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#121 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

subrosian

hey man, anyone can come inhere and list a bunch of games they're looking forward to. there's nothing special about that.

if you are right, i wouldn't expect one 360 fanboy posting here by years end. not one... you know that's not going to happen. haha.

i can't wait for SSBB either.. smooth moves and cooking mama just isn't my thing.



Anyone who fails to recognize Too Human as *the* most important title this generation is not a gamer. Name any other title that has been in development on *all three* of the Big Three (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) platforms. Moving from PS1 to GCN to Xbox 360 ... Too Human has been in development a long time, take a look at their site sometime, the amount of mythology research they put into it that they reveal to fans is *insane* - let alone their own research.

Anyone denying that Too Human is something that shouldnot be hotly anticipated isn't a gamer - that's all there is to it - it's beyond fanboyism, it's like pretending Chrono Trigger isn't a JRPG - it's a punishable offense.

Seriously - Too Human is the first "manticore" software to go system exclusive, and frankly any other title thrown up as a "comparison" is simply an act of blindness, no hack-n-slash has the depth, no RPG short of Final Fantasy VI / VII or Fallout 2 has the storyline to compete...


360 fanboys were diminshed on here during the entire Halo 3 Beta - the posting level from 360 fans was just down to the point where a Wii fanboy post that any 360 fanboy took on was a pointless fight - just completely outnumbered. Look, I appreciate the PS3 - and i'm really glad you have time time frame right - end of 2008 is when the PS3 titles are coming, but please, spare me the "list of games" - arguement for Too Human. Yeah yeah, PGR4 and Alan Wake are pretty "list-o-games" - dropping Bioshock (system shock 2 spiritual sequel), Blue Dragon (chrono trigger's spiritual sequel) and Too Human (...there's nothing to say here, I think it might cure cancer...) is *huge* - you can even ignore Halo 3 (system seller) from the debate, when it comes down to talking about games for gamers - those three are it - and when you add Halo 3, the "pop star" of the 360, I don't know.

Halo 2 still has a huge following, three years later, so just pretending we're all going to jump on the PS3 is short-sighted. The Too Human and Mass Effect trilogies will still be being released in late 2008, and Halo Wars will be coming out... plus, Gears 2...

what? i don't remember talking down on any of the games you listed earlier. i'm just saying, people can do the same thing with their own lists.

blue dragon a spiritual successor to chrono? i know sakaguchi would want it to be that way, but its not. BD is my most anticipated on 360 so far... but i wouldn't give it that much praise. It's respected in Japan, but not that much.

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So youve seen screenshots from the offline game......i didnt think so.Anyways i am taking part in this thread because im tired of seeing all this bs.If u like your ps3 great enjoy it,so why come in here and try to tell someone what they like is the wrong choice.I just think there are far more important things to argue about then a stupid game console.
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#123 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

leadernator

hey man, anyone can come inhere and list a bunch of games they're looking forward to. there's nothing special about that.

if you are right, i wouldn't expect one 360 fanboy posting here by years end. not one... you know that's not going to happen. haha.

i can't wait for SSBB either.. smooth moves and cooking mama just isn't my thing.



Anyone who fails to recognize Too Human as *the* most important title this generation is not a gamer. Name any other title that has been in development on *all three* of the Big Three (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) platforms. Moving from PS1 to GCN to Xbox 360 ... Too Human has been in development a long time, take a look at their site sometime, the amount of mythology research they put into it that they reveal to fans is *insane* - let alone their own research.

Anyone denying that Too Human is something that shouldnot be hotly anticipated isn't a gamer - that's all there is to it - it's beyond fanboyism, it's like pretending Chrono Trigger isn't a JRPG - it's a punishable offense.

Seriously - Too Human is the first "manticore" software to go system exclusive, and frankly any other title thrown up as a "comparison" is simply an act of blindness, no hack-n-slash has the depth, no RPG short of Final Fantasy VI / VII or Fallout 2 has the storyline to compete...


360 fanboys were diminshed on here during the entire Halo 3 Beta - the posting level from 360 fans was just down to the point where a Wii fanboy post that any 360 fanboy took on was a pointless fight - just completely outnumbered. Look, I appreciate the PS3 - and i'm really glad you have time time frame right - end of 2008 is when the PS3 titles are coming, but please, spare me the "list of games" - arguement for Too Human. Yeah yeah, PGR4 and Alan Wake are pretty "list-o-games" - dropping Bioshock (system shock 2 spiritual sequel), Blue Dragon (chrono trigger's spiritual sequel) and Too Human (...there's nothing to say here, I think it might cure cancer...) is *huge* - you can even ignore Halo 3 (system seller) from the debate, when it comes down to talking about games for gamers - those three are it - and when you add Halo 3, the "pop star" of the 360, I don't know.

Halo 2 still has a huge following, three years later, so just pretending we're all going to jump on the PS3 is short-sighted. The Too Human and Mass Effect trilogies will still be being released in late 2008, and Halo Wars will be coming out... plus, Gears 2...

what? i don't remember talking down on any of the games you listed earlier. i'm just saying, people can do the same thing with their own lists.

blue dragon a spiritual successor to chrono? i know sakaguchi would want it to be that way, but its not. BD is my most anticipated on 360 so far... but i wouldn't give it that much praise. It's respected in Japan, but not that much.



Blue Dragon is the spiritual succesor to Chrono Trigger, it is definately one of those games we'll look back on and go "wow, y'know, that was an amazing title". We're not in the era of JRPGs that we were in when Chrono Trigger released, but you've got the same game developer, the same character designer, and a years more experience between them. Will it be Chrono Trigger again? no... but I've seen the first hour of gameplay, and it plays, looks, and feels *solid* - honestly it's a breath of fresh air compared to Final Fantasy XII, which just totally failed to live up to the Final Fantasy name.

The only real fault with BD is that Toriyama's character design's are somewhat similar to his DBZ characters, at least visually, and DBZ was never well dubbed, nor were any of the games good - however this is not the case with BD. It was well-received in Japan - it and Gears of War are the things that sold it. Sakaguchi is spot on - he's funny too, his dream game is to make a surfing game that teaches people about global warming...

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#124 leadernator
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So youve seen screenshots from the offline game......i didnt think so.Anyways i am taking part in this thread because im tired of seeing all this bs.If u like your ps3 great enjoy it,so why come in here and try to tell someone what they like is the wrong choice.I just think there are far more important things to argue about then a stupid game console.loudharley

you forget which forum you are in.

it's really your fault for taking all of this to the heart.

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#125 ff7isnumbaone
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BY the end of 2008.....

All wiis will turn into robots that suck out your brains...

360 hit 22 million....

Ps3 get rumble

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#126 360_Degrees
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HAHAHAHA, you think Gears will be the best looking game on the 360?

Ever heard about a game called Alan Wake? The ONLY game that holds a candle to Crysis.

How about Mass Effect?

Hell, I think even Halo 3 will look graphically superior to Gears.

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#127 greenleaf2000
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[QUOTE="leadernator"]

PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

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HE SPEAKS TRUTH

yep. he knows what he is talking about.
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#128 Hermitkermit
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2010 is the day Xbox 3 is annouced and PS4 and Nintendo's next System *Wow*
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#129 leadernator
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[QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

subrosian

hey man, anyone can come inhere and list a bunch of games they're looking forward to. there's nothing special about that.

if you are right, i wouldn't expect one 360 fanboy posting here by years end. not one... you know that's not going to happen. haha.

i can't wait for SSBB either.. smooth moves and cooking mama just isn't my thing.



Anyone who fails to recognize Too Human as *the* most important title this generation is not a gamer. Name any other title that has been in development on *all three* of the Big Three (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) platforms. Moving from PS1 to GCN to Xbox 360 ... Too Human has been in development a long time, take a look at their site sometime, the amount of mythology research they put into it that they reveal to fans is *insane* - let alone their own research.

Anyone denying that Too Human is something that shouldnot be hotly anticipated isn't a gamer - that's all there is to it - it's beyond fanboyism, it's like pretending Chrono Trigger isn't a JRPG - it's a punishable offense.

Seriously - Too Human is the first "manticore" software to go system exclusive, and frankly any other title thrown up as a "comparison" is simply an act of blindness, no hack-n-slash has the depth, no RPG short of Final Fantasy VI / VII or Fallout 2 has the storyline to compete...


360 fanboys were diminshed on here during the entire Halo 3 Beta - the posting level from 360 fans was just down to the point where a Wii fanboy post that any 360 fanboy took on was a pointless fight - just completely outnumbered. Look, I appreciate the PS3 - and i'm really glad you have time time frame right - end of 2008 is when the PS3 titles are coming, but please, spare me the "list of games" - arguement for Too Human. Yeah yeah, PGR4 and Alan Wake are pretty "list-o-games" - dropping Bioshock (system shock 2 spiritual sequel), Blue Dragon (chrono trigger's spiritual sequel) and Too Human (...there's nothing to say here, I think it might cure cancer...) is *huge* - you can even ignore Halo 3 (system seller) from the debate, when it comes down to talking about games for gamers - those three are it - and when you add Halo 3, the "pop star" of the 360, I don't know.

Halo 2 still has a huge following, three years later, so just pretending we're all going to jump on the PS3 is short-sighted. The Too Human and Mass Effect trilogies will still be being released in late 2008, and Halo Wars will be coming out... plus, Gears 2...

what? i don't remember talking down on any of the games you listed earlier. i'm just saying, people can do the same thing with their own lists.

blue dragon a spiritual successor to chrono? i know sakaguchi would want it to be that way, but its not. BD is my most anticipated on 360 so far... but i wouldn't give it that much praise. It's respected in Japan, but not that much.



Blue Dragon is the spiritual succesor to Chrono Trigger, it is definately one of those games we'll look back on and go "wow, y'know, that was an amazing title". We're not in the era of JRPGs that we were in when Chrono Trigger released, but you've got the same game developer, the same character designer, and a years more experience between them. Will it be Chrono Trigger again? no... but I've seen the first hour of gameplay, and it plays, looks, and feels *solid* - honestly it's a breath of fresh air compared to Final Fantasy XII, which just totally failed to live up to the Final Fantasy name.

The only real fault with BD is that Toriyama's character design's are somewhat similar to his DBZ characters, at least visually, and DBZ was never well dubbed, nor were any of the games good - however this is not the case with BD. It was well-received in Japan - it and Gears of War are the things that sold it. Sakaguchi is spot on - he's funny too, his dream game is to make a surfing game that teaches people about global warming...

BD brings almost NOTHING new to the JRPG genre. Solid title, yes... but revolutionary? NO FREAKING WAY. it's the same 'ol turn-based stuff man, with dragons replacing limit-breaks. it's a hi-res Dragon Quest 8.

Toriyama IS the character designer, and creator of DBZ. i'm honestly questioning your knowledge here. He's also the character designer for Dragon Quest, Tobal, and Chrono Trigger. i don't understand how you wouldn't know that, being such a faithful follower of BD.

BD didn't spike 360 salesthat much, as it is still in the bottom of all the other consoles available in Japan. As i said, it was respected as a solid title... but nothing near as you are hoping it to be.

if it really is THE game you're cracking it up to be, then it would have had a bigger impact in Japan.

FFXII was not the best FF, but it got the job done actually trying to implement new gameplay, and again, is a respected title. when you have majority review scores in the 90% area, i think you got a pretty good game there buddy.

Sakaguchi reallyisn't all that great. How can anyone of us forget.... he's the guy behind Spirits Within.

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By the end of 2008, we will all realize that Cows will tell us to wait until 2009 for the PS3 to dominate... :lol:
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#131 ff7isnumbaone
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HAHAHAHA, you think Gears will be the best looking game on the 360?

Ever heard about a game called Alan Wake? The ONLY game that holds a candle to Crysis.

How about Mass Effect?

Hell, I think even Halo 3 will look graphically superior to Gears.

360_Degrees

whos alan Wake? mass effect looks boring, I liked gears duck and cover wil halo have that? Oh and I doubt halo will look better than gears.

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#132 ParadiddleFill
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2008? awww but i wanna game now
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#133 blacktorn
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Dumb fanboy threads should be under the TOS...SERIOUSLY!
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#134 ParadiddleFill
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[QUOTE="360_Degrees"]

HAHAHAHA, you think Gears will be the best looking game on the 360?

Ever heard about a game called Alan Wake? The ONLY game that holds a candle to Crysis.

How about Mass Effect?

Hell, I think even Halo 3 will look graphically superior to Gears.

ff7isnumbaone

whos alan Wake? mass effect looks boring, I liked gears duck and cover wil halo have that? Oh and I doubt halo will look better than gears.

Haha you dont know what Alan Wake is?

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#135 leadernator
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Dumb fanboy threads should be under the TOS...SERIOUSLY!blacktorn

fanboys calling each other fanboys.

you got great stuff in System Wars.

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#136 subrosian
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[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="leadernator"][QUOTE="subrosian"]

By the end of 2008 we will all realize... that subrosian probably should have eaten something, or maybe took a nap... 15 straight months of Too Human and Halo 3 will do anyone in...

In all seriousness, the Too Human trilogy guarantees I'll finish college without any idea what my degree was in... I'll be walking up on graduation day "wait... I'm a civil engineer? I thought I was studying MIS... oh man, some public works projects are about to be ruined..."

Seriously, with Bioshock, Halo 3, Mass Effect, Too Human, Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey, Halo Wars, PGR4, and Alan Wake coming out... I'm not so certain that 360 fans will even be aware of other people in their houses, let alone that this strange thing you call the "PS3" exists.

As far as Wii owners go... when Brawl comes out GS will be devoid of sheep...

Hmm... from the Sony fanboy perspective, the cows will have won come 2008, simply because everyone else will be too busy gaming...

leadernator

hey man, anyone can come inhere and list a bunch of games they're looking forward to. there's nothing special about that.

if you are right, i wouldn't expect one 360 fanboy posting here by years end. not one... you know that's not going to happen. haha.

i can't wait for SSBB either.. smooth moves and cooking mama just isn't my thing.



Anyone who fails to recognize Too Human as *the* most important title this generation is not a gamer. Name any other title that has been in development on *all three* of the Big Three (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) platforms. Moving from PS1 to GCN to Xbox 360 ... Too Human has been in development a long time, take a look at their site sometime, the amount of mythology research they put into it that they reveal to fans is *insane* - let alone their own research.

Anyone denying that Too Human is something that shouldnot be hotly anticipated isn't a gamer - that's all there is to it - it's beyond fanboyism, it's like pretending Chrono Trigger isn't a JRPG - it's a punishable offense.

Seriously - Too Human is the first "manticore" software to go system exclusive, and frankly any other title thrown up as a "comparison" is simply an act of blindness, no hack-n-slash has the depth, no RPG short of Final Fantasy VI / VII or Fallout 2 has the storyline to compete...


360 fanboys were diminshed on here during the entire Halo 3 Beta - the posting level from 360 fans was just down to the point where a Wii fanboy post that any 360 fanboy took on was a pointless fight - just completely outnumbered. Look, I appreciate the PS3 - and i'm really glad you have time time frame right - end of 2008 is when the PS3 titles are coming, but please, spare me the "list of games" - arguement for Too Human. Yeah yeah, PGR4 and Alan Wake are pretty "list-o-games" - dropping Bioshock (system shock 2 spiritual sequel), Blue Dragon (chrono trigger's spiritual sequel) and Too Human (...there's nothing to say here, I think it might cure cancer...) is *huge* - you can even ignore Halo 3 (system seller) from the debate, when it comes down to talking about games for gamers - those three are it - and when you add Halo 3, the "pop star" of the 360, I don't know.

Halo 2 still has a huge following, three years later, so just pretending we're all going to jump on the PS3 is short-sighted. The Too Human and Mass Effect trilogies will still be being released in late 2008, and Halo Wars will be coming out... plus, Gears 2...

what? i don't remember talking down on any of the games you listed earlier. i'm just saying, people can do the same thing with their own lists.

blue dragon a spiritual successor to chrono? i know sakaguchi would want it to be that way, but its not. BD is my most anticipated on 360 so far... but i wouldn't give it that much praise. It's respected in Japan, but not that much.



Blue Dragon is the spiritual succesor to Chrono Trigger, it is definately one of those games we'll look back on and go "wow, y'know, that was an amazing title". We're not in the era of JRPGs that we were in when Chrono Trigger released, but you've got the same game developer, the same character designer, and a years more experience between them. Will it be Chrono Trigger again? no... but I've seen the first hour of gameplay, and it plays, looks, and feels *solid* - honestly it's a breath of fresh air compared to Final Fantasy XII, which just totally failed to live up to the Final Fantasy name.

The only real fault with BD is that Toriyama's character design's are somewhat similar to his DBZ characters, at least visually, and DBZ was never well dubbed, nor were any of the games good - however this is not the case with BD. It was well-received in Japan - it and Gears of War are the things that sold it. Sakaguchi is spot on - he's funny too, his dream game is to make a surfing game that teaches people about global warming...

BD brings almost NOTHING new to the JRPG genre. Solid title, yes... but revolutionary? NO FREAKING WAY. it's the same 'ol turn-based stuff man, with dragons replacing limit-breaks. it's a hi-res Dragon Quest 8.

Toriyama IS the character designer, and creator of DBZ. i'm honestly questioning your knowledge here. He's also the character designer for Dragon Quest, Tobal, and Chrono Trigger. i don't understand how you wouldn't know that, being such a faithful follower of BD.

BD didn't spike 360 salesthat much, as it is still in the bottom of all the other consoles available in Japan. As i said, it was respected as a solid title... but nothing near as you are hoping it to be.

if it really is THE game you're cracking it up to be, then it would have had a bigger impact in Japan.

FFXII was not the best FF, but it got the job done actually trying to implement new gameplay, and again, is a respected title. when you have majority review scores in the 90% area, i think you got a pretty good game there buddy.

Sakaguchi reallyisn't all that great. How can anyone of us forget.... he's the guy behind Spirits Within.

Fail reading comprehension much? I know that Toriyama is the creator of DBZ and the charcter designer in Chrono Trigger. That's why I said it is a FAULT that his character designs look so similar to the designs we've been seeing for the last decade. There aren't going to be a lot of people picking up Blue Dragon who haven't seen an episode of Dragonball - we're so used to his designs that we start associating them with other memorable characters, rather than having them stand on their own.

Spirits Within was a mistake, he's a game designer, not a film maker, and when he went into another medium thinks got hairy for him. Whatever, it happens. Michael Jordan tried to play baseball - that didn't dimish his skills on the basketball court, did it?

To say Sakaguchi isn't that great is ignorant - he worked on Final Fantasy XII, but it does fail to live up to the earlier titles. Sakaguchi was more hands off with that title, and in interviews he has said he's tired of seeing the Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest line of games - Square-Enix needs to do something different. Frankly, I'm glad Sakaguchi is doing Blue Dragon, and I think he mostly gets grief because Sony fanboys don't like the idea of the creator and genius behind the Final Fantasy series saying "the PS3 sucks, I'm working on the 360".

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#137 Pariah_001
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HAHAHAHA, you think Gears will be the best looking game on the 360?

Ever heard about a game called Alan Wake? The ONLY game that holds a candle to Crysis.

How about Mass Effect?

Hell, I think even Halo 3 will look graphically superior to Gears.360_Degrees

Zuh? Alan Wake certainly does look beautiful, but it in now way "holds a candle" to Crysis.

Mass Effect, while highly detailed, lacks the texture quality within Gears of War.

And as far as you "thinking" Halo 3 is graphically superior to Gears....Well, you think wrong.

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#138 Bromz
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

Xbox and Game Cube were technologically superior when compared to the ps2 last gen, its not a great factor, 360 I believe isn't tapped out yet anyway, but the thing is its cheaper to buy, easier to develop for, has superior online, everythings connected (ie. I can talk to someone playing uno when playing gears), graphics are great (not saying ps3 doesn't have better eye candy potential) etc. I was watching Bonus Round on game trailers and the lead guy of Naughty Dog (Resistance developers) favours the 360. And also on bonus round Jaffe, God of War creator and Sony employee, says Sony made a mistake intergrating blu ray.
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#139 D0013ER
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

Meanwhile, the Sony Store has issued a mass recall on its popular brand of crystal balls...

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#140 beerm_basic
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wow another boring cow thread saying WAIT and bias opinions just like everyday on here

*wonders why he bothers*

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#141 hazuki87
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I'm wondering where the TC is geting all these ideas. Not from reality thats for sure.

Anyways the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Its true. Overall it has more processing power. However the games don't look beter and often look worse and the development costs required to make those great looking games are so inhibitive that they will be few and far between. Also because people aren't buying the PS3 less games will be exclusive for it. Doesn't matter how powerful it is, so either way the systems serious gamers will want will be the 360 and PS3 because thats where the.. you know... games are.

Also Mass Effect looks better than Gears.

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#142 Pariah_001
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Anyone who fails to recognize Too Human as *the* most important title this generation is not a gamer. Name any other title that has been in development on *all three* of the Big Three (Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft) platforms. Moving from PS1 to GCN to Xbox 360 ... Too Human has been in development a long time, take a look at their site sometime, the amount of mythology research they put into it that they reveal to fans is *insane* - let alone their own research.

Anyone denying that Too Human is something that shouldnot be hotly anticipated isn't a gamer - that's all there is to it - it's beyond fanboyism, it's like pretending Chrono Trigger isn't a JRPG - it's a punishable offense.

Seriously - Too Human is the first "manticore" software to go system exclusive, and frankly any other title thrown up as a "comparison" is simply an act of blindness, no hack-n-slash has the depth, no RPG short of Final Fantasy VI / VII or Fallout 2 has the storyline to compete...subrosian

......Oookayyy.....

So, because a game has been in development for ten years and switched from interface to interface, that makes it worthy of note?

Whilst the rendering on the game is admirable, the mechanics, I can tell, are gonna be cheezy. I'm not going to lose any sleep over its loss.

I like some backstory to my games as well, but too much mythology is why I got fed up with Elder Scrolls. The Star Control series was the only one that could pull it off with tact.

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#143 Pariah_001
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I'm wondering where the TC is geting all these ideas. Not from reality thats for sure.

Anyways the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Its true. Overall it has more processing power. However the games don't look beter and often look worse and the development costs required to make those great looking games are so inhibitive that they will be few and far between.hazuki87

The 'inferior GPU' myth in regards to the PS3 is just that: Myth.

With the development of the Edge tool, which works around the bottle-necking ram, cost of development will fall.

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#144 onewiththegame
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PS3 has the most potential, with the latter end its 1st gen games exceeding anything possible on 360.

360's capabilities tapped out with Gears of War (like the Dreamcast tapped out with Soul Calibur).

PS3's online service is free and pretty much equal to XBL (if not, then better).

With both games and power on its side, there would be no reason NOT to buy a PS3 (if you're a gamer, of course).

The Halo series has lost it.

Screenshot comparisons are worthless, and will evolve to video comparisons.

No one will take the Wii's success seriously, and people would categorize it in the "family entertainment" market.

Everyone will be loved.

leadernator

with the games out NOW your not a gamer unless you have a 360

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#145 D0013ER
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All these cows coming out of the woodwork must mean one thing...

NPD numbers will be out soon.

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#146 Michael85
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Too Human > all.
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#147 hazuki87
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[QUOTE="hazuki87"]I'm wondering where the TC is geting all these ideas. Not from reality thats for sure.

Anyways the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Its true. Overall it has more processing power. However the games don't look beter and often look worse and the development costs required to make those great looking games are so inhibitive that they will be few and far between.Pariah_001

The 'inferior GPU' myth in regards to the PS3 is just that: Myth.

With the development of the Edge tool, which works around the bottle-necking ram, cost of development will fall.

I never said it had an inferior GPU. And as far as development cost falling, by then it'll be too late as devlopers have already started moving on to other consoles where they can actually turn a profit.

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#148 blacktorn
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[QUOTE="blacktorn"]Dumb fanboy threads should be under the TOS...SERIOUSLY!leadernator

fanboys calling each other fanboys.

you got great stuff in System Wars.

I'm not a fanboy -.-
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#149 uawildcat22
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[QUOTE="ironcreed"][QUOTE="hockeyruler12"]

wow, your crystal ball is biased...

and btw, UT2007 looks better than Gears, so does Mass Effect, so the 360's power is not maxed out

Educated_Gamer

Have to agree with that, not to mention Bioshock and Too Human which I think will beat out Gears graphically as well.

Why does everyone always forget the darkness? that game looks better than Crysis. (no joke, watch this)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=u037GYDH0O4

none of that is CGI. every bit has been played live on floor. Well what would you expect from the guys who made riddick?

Agreed!!!

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#150 leadernator
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I'm wondering where the TC is geting all these ideas. Not from reality thats for sure.

Anyways the PS3 is more powerful than the 360. Its true. Overall it has more processing power. However the games don't look beter and often look worse and the development costs required to make those great looking games are so inhibitive that they will be few and far between. Also because people aren't buying the PS3 less games will be exclusive for it. Doesn't matter how powerful it is, so either way the systems serious gamers will want will be the 360 and PS3 because thats where the.. you know... games are.

Also Mass Effect looks better than Gears.

hazuki87

do you not see that you are proving my point about potential.