C. Moriarty damage controls PS Now's price, PS4 still sucks

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#51 Ghost120x
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I think the service is really good and from a technical stand point it is really impressive. I feel bad for Sony because they are getting a lot of hate for the prices when it's not entirely their fault. This is probably the only way they had to do it in order to get publishers to support it. Otherwise it would have been only first party stuff on the service.

Licensing fees is a tricky game. Even Netflix is having trouble keeping the low subscription price with no advertisements as they have tried a couple of times to raise the price. Sony has to do it on a game by game basis otherwise they could lose money with one flat rate. Thus they would have to constantly end agreements and titles will be taken off the store and the library will be unpredictable.

With one flat rate,Sony will also susceptible to changing economic conditions and they wouldn't be able to raise the price because they risk losing elastic consumers who will leave the moment a price raise is in question.

You just have to let the market take control, and fish for the best deals for the game you want in order to shape the service in favor of the consumer. Then the publishers will follow the most popular pricing for the rentals.

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#52 gago-gago
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PS Now is not a good value.

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#53 PapaTrop
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I said it in another thread, and I'll say it here again.

$1 a day for non-HD titles and $2 a day for HD titles flat rate, or the option to pay $20-$30 a month for full access to all titles on PSNow.

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#54 Elpresador-911
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lmao another shitty blab thread, still asshurt over the PS4's dominance

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#55 ninjapirate2000
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Moriarty and Miller are shills. They shouldn't be allowed to review games.

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#56  Edited By lamprey263
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weekly rental prices are good, that's the cost of a game rental from a store these days, though the 4-hour rental, they should change that to 3 days

as for a monthly rental, that's like the price you can buy the game for older titles

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#57 peafowlplumage
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@gago-gago said:

PS Now is not a good value.

Well said

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#58 peafowlplumage
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@elpresador-911: sound pretty upset yourself there. What is it with Sony fans and ass/butt jokes?

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#59  Edited By Blabadon
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@elpresador-911: How many Sony consoles do you own?

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#60 lostrib
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@Blabadon said:

@elpresador-911: How many Sony consoles do you own?

don't you have a PS4?

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@lostrib: If you try messing with my narrative one more time I'm banning you

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#62 lostrib
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@Blabadon said:

@lostrib: If you try messing with my narrative one more time I'm banning you

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#63 AmazonAngry
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successful folks, like myself, definitely see this as good pricing. Unsuccessful folks, however, well they are a bit butthurt by this.

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#64 lostrib
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@amazonangry said:

successful folks, like myself, definitely see this as good pricing. Unsuccessful folks, however, well they are a bit butthurt by this.

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#65  Edited By bbkkristian
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@chikenfriedrice: you and me both, I hope this s*** dies. I don't want streams to replace superior downloads and emulators.

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#66 tormentos
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@mems_1224 said:

Gold gives you games at no extra cost as well. Try harder tormentard.

Did i say other wise.? And actually cost $10 more.

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@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Gold gives you games at no extra cost as well. Try harder tormentard.

Did i say other wise.? And actually cost $10 more.

Those $10 keeps it from being down for a month without a reason like Sony. lololololololol

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#68 lostrib
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@mems_1224 said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Gold gives you games at no extra cost as well. Try harder tormentard.

Did i say other wise.? And actually cost $10 more.

Those $10 keeps it from being down for a month without a reason like Sony. lololololololol

Well there was a reason...they had a massive security breach

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@lostrib said:

@mems_1224 said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Gold gives you games at no extra cost as well. Try harder tormentard.

Did i say other wise.? And actually cost $10 more.

Those $10 keeps it from being down for a month without a reason like Sony. lololololololol

Well there was a reason...they had a massive security breach

True, and to their credit they tried to give away games no one wanted to buy in the first place to make up for it.

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#70  Edited By handssss
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@mems_1224 said:

@lostrib said:

@mems_1224 said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Gold gives you games at no extra cost as well. Try harder tormentard.

Did i say other wise.? And actually cost $10 more.

Those $10 keeps it from being down for a month without a reason like Sony. lololololololol

Well there was a reason...they had a massive security breach

True, and to their credit they tried to give away games no one wanted to buy in the first place to make up for it.

no one wanted to buy infamous or littlebigplanet?

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#71 tormentos
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@mems_1224 said:

Those $10 keeps it from being down for a month without a reason like Sony. lololololololol

It wasn't a crash sony took it down,to investigate the whole PSN hack,and yes xbox live can go down.

http://levelsave.com/destinys-public-beta-stress-test-just-crashed-xbox-lives-party-system/

Destiny beta bring it down..lol

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True, and to their credit they tried to give away games no one wanted to buy in the first place to make up for it.

No one that had a 360 like you..lol

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@handssss said:

@mems_1224 said:

@lostrib said:

@mems_1224 said:

@tormentos said:

@mems_1224 said:

Gold gives you games at no extra cost as well. Try harder tormentard.

Did i say other wise.? And actually cost $10 more.

Those $10 keeps it from being down for a month without a reason like Sony. lololololololol

Well there was a reason...they had a massive security breach

True, and to their credit they tried to give away games no one wanted to buy in the first place to make up for it.

no one wanted to buy infamous or littlebigplanet?

Nope. They why they had to give them away. Trash games are trash.

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#73 LegatoSkyheart
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You have to be a REAL Sony tool to think PSNow's Prices are reasonable.

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#74  Edited By inb4uall
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Why do gamers get fucked over so frequently?

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#75 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Some of the prices are pretty silly.

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#77  Edited By blackace
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@TheEroica said:

@blackace: not being able to control the quality of the product is issue number 1. From what I've read this service requires you to be hard lined to the net. Um yeah...no.

Mix that with an odd pricing model and you're staring down the barrel of a potential PR nightmare....

I agree... the service in its infancy, in order to legitimize itself shouldn't launch with premium pricing. It should be on the cheap. It'll give sony time to see what kind of usage they're looking at and what they can do to improve... then after a few years of fine tuning you launch it proper.

Imagine working for Sony customer service and fielding calls from people pissed that they're games are stuttering and complaining they rented for a month? With unproven (and game streaming is HIGHLY unproven to be consistent) you gotta overwhelm with value so not to turn folks off out of the gate... I don't see that happening here.

I agree with you 100%. I heard that the Wifi aspect of this service was very inconsistant. I wasn't in the Beta, so I wasn't able to experience it for myself. I'm going to check out some more review on it though to see what gamers had to say. I don't see many people rushing into this service or the EA Access one to tell you the truth. Better off just waiting a year and seeing how it evolves.

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@Randolph said:

It's honestly laughable that they turned down EA's subscription service for being a poor value, then present this absolute steaming pile of shit to us and expect us to gobble it up. No thank you. PS Now is easily the absolute worst thing about an otherwise good console.

Well, the HOME service wasn't any better either. I can't believe that thing is still up and running. It ended up being a social gathering for smart mouth kids who don't want to spend money on anything in the app. I think I went in there twice and never came back. I deleted the app off my PS3, but somehow it ended up back on there. Probably from an update.

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#78 TheEroica  Moderator
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@blackace: yeah agreed... slow starts seem imminent. I think people are generally smart to the current saturation of game distribution in the hobby today. We can get games at retail, download, used, from console services... there's sales constantly, rental services. Bottom line, it's a crowded competitive market that is constantly giving away it's product for cheap prices. EA and sony should know this better than anyone.

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Am I the only one who notices the trolling thread title and the embaressing first 3 posts?

whats really alarming is that two of the comments were made by mods

How is that even acceptable or allowed?

I thought mods were supposed to be nuetral or fair, correct.

Yet Blabadon and The Erocia are showing CLEAR bias against Playstation. Their xbox fanatacism is blatant.

I encourage everyone to PM as many admins as you can to take a look into blabadon and TheErocica

This is insane. If we make enough noise about it something will get done. Go to other forums and talk about how the gamespot mods are xbox fanboys. Spread the word

Its unbelievable how modship was given here to so many posters who were previous xbox fanboys

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#80 parkurtommo
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Why the **** are we getting IGN news here?

Shitty blab thread? Shitty blab thread.

All blab threads are shit, except that one.

Yeaahh, nope, can't recall when that was.

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#81 Blabadon
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@beatboxvoilin: PS4 has no games.

The Last of Us is a movie

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#83 Bigboi500
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Mother **** PS No(w).

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#84 PapaTrop
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@inb4uall said:

Why do gamers get fucked over so frequently?

Willful ignorance.

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#85 remiks00
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@lostrib said:

@amazonangry said:

successful folks, like myself, definitely see this as good pricing. Unsuccessful folks, however, well they are a bit butthurt by this.

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#87 CanYouDiglt
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I so regret getting a PS4 before a XO. It seems MS is wising up for example taking stuff off of the XBL pay wall but Sony is finding more ways to charge you and with over the top prices.

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@lostrib said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

PS Now will most likely succeed. As for prices, it's called a beta for a reason. Besides, why should Sony give a crap about what a vocal group of nerds think? If people pay for it all is swell. And I bet they will. I would never have thought last gen that people would pay companies money for free to play but they do. As for your bashing of PS4 - well, it's still selling.

why will PS Now succeed?

You think it will not succeed?

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#89 lostrib
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@Mr-Kutaragi said:

@lostrib said:

@SolidGame_basic said:

PS Now will most likely succeed. As for prices, it's called a beta for a reason. Besides, why should Sony give a crap about what a vocal group of nerds think? If people pay for it all is swell. And I bet they will. I would never have thought last gen that people would pay companies money for free to play but they do. As for your bashing of PS4 - well, it's still selling.

why will PS Now succeed?

You think it will not succeed?

That's irrelevant to what I asked

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@beatboxvoilin said:

Am I the only one who notices the trolling thread title and the embaressing first 3 posts?

whats really alarming is that two of the comments were made by mods

How is that even acceptable or allowed?

I thought mods were supposed to be nuetral or fair, correct.

Yet Blabadon and The Erocia are showing CLEAR bias against Playstation. Their xbox fanatacism is blatant.

I encourage everyone to PM as many admins as you can to take a look into blabadon and TheErocica

This is insane. If we make enough noise about it something will get done. Go to other forums and talk about how the gamespot mods are xbox fanboys. Spread the word

Its unbelievable how modship was given here to so many posters who were previous xbox fanboys

And somehow people surprise that lemspot is dying...

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#91  Edited By Snugenz
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@beatboxvoilin said:

Am I the only one who notices the trolling thread title and the embaressing first 3 posts?

whats really alarming is that two of the comments were made by mods

How is that even acceptable or allowed?

I thought mods were supposed to be nuetral or fair, correct.

Yet Blabadon and The Erocia are showing CLEAR bias against Playstation. Their xbox fanatacism is blatant.

I encourage everyone to PM as many admins as you can to take a look into blabadon and TheErocica

This is insane. If we make enough noise about it something will get done. Go to other forums and talk about how the gamespot mods are xbox fanboys. Spread the word

Its unbelievable how modship was given here to so many posters who were previous xbox fanboys

Must getting tiring having to constantly make new accounts huh brofists?, you know if you'd just try to act like a normal poster and not some psychopathic uber fanboy you'd get to keep one account for longer than a day.

Then again with shit services like PS Now and real gamers reactions to them i bet you're just fuming right now huh.

P.S. Oh and one last thing, i'd like to take this opportunity to thank two completely unbiased and excellent posters @Blabadon and @TheEroica for their contributions on SW. And while i'm at it i'd also like to thank our completely impartial, brimming with integrity mod team here at SW. Keep fighting the good fight in you're extraordinarily unbiased manner.

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#92 tormentos
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@mems_1224 said:

Nope. They why they had to give them away. Trash games are trash.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/littlebigplanet

LBP has 95% on metacritics to put it on Perspective Halo 3 has 94% on 360.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/playstation-3/infamous

Infamous has 85% that is higher than any xbox one exclusive release this pass holiday on xbox one..lol
If those games were trash well i guess 99% of the xbox 360 games were trash..lol

You are a sad bitter troll..lol

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@Mr-Kutaragi said:

@beatboxvoilin said:

Am I the only one who notices the trolling thread title and the embaressing first 3 posts?

whats really alarming is that two of the comments were made by mods

How is that even acceptable or allowed?

I thought mods were supposed to be nuetral or fair, correct.

Yet Blabadon and The Erocia are showing CLEAR bias against Playstation. Their xbox fanatacism is blatant.

I encourage everyone to PM as many admins as you can to take a look into blabadon and TheErocica

This is insane. If we make enough noise about it something will get done. Go to other forums and talk about how the gamespot mods are xbox fanboys. Spread the word

Its unbelievable how modship was given here to so many posters who were previous xbox fanboys

And somehow people surprise that lemspot is dying...

hahahahahahaha nice joke nice joke

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#94 freedomfreak
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Yeah, not a big fan of PsNow. And it's not even the pricing that bothers me. It's bad, but I'm just not into renting game anymore. Especially if you're streaming them.

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#95  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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lmao Blabadon thread

Enjoy paying for multiple subscriptions.

@CanYouDiglt said:

I so regret getting a PS4 before a XO. It seems MS is wising up for example taking stuff off of the XBL pay wall but Sony is finding more ways to charge you and with over the top prices.

Paying $30 extra for stuff you should be getting with XBLG is great though.

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#96  Edited By Doozie78
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Hell to the no, corporations get it all wrong...again. You were doing so well in the peoples eyes too you fucking corporate shitbag.

Will not buy, ever.

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@Snugenz: You the real MVP

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#98 Blabadon
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@GrenadeLauncher: What's your PSN man?

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#99  Edited By Alucard_Prime
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PSNow prices are a huge ripoff at this time, and you can bet that if MS had come up with this exact same thing, they would be once again pummelled like there was no tomorrow. It's a good thing this service is somewhat of an experiment for them, and not part of their core offerings for the PS4, otherwise it could have hurt the PS4 momentum.

I do applaud them for doing something new in the industry though, I would not bash them just for that, but the implementation turned out sloppy. For this thing to survive now it needs a complete overhaul of its pricing schemes, espcially with all the stories of lag people will not want to pay so much for such a service. Good luck to them, they will take a big hit financially if this thing never takes off.