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#1 Nike_Air
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According to vgchartz........ (oh god , yes I used vgchartz )

NA - hardware totals (360 has ~ 3.6 times the userbase)

  • 360 - 8,467,762
  • PS3 - 2,324,092

NA - Call of Duty 4 sales (360 version didn't out sell it by more than 3.6 times , only 2.8)

  • 360 - 507,659
  • ps3 - 179,471

How many owners bought this game for each ?

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 16.6 360 owners bought the game
  • ps3 -approx. one out of every 12.9 ps3 owners bought the game

Why didn't more 360 owners buy this at a higher rate than ps3 owners ? 360 owners allegedly buy more games and all owners with both systems buy the 360 version for achievements or xbox live so what gives exactly ?

Madden

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 6.9 360 owners bought madden so far
  • ps3 - approx. one out of every 5.2ps3 owners bought madden so far

I checked some othe games like The Simpsons , Tony Hawk , Lego Star Wars , and Jericho and they all turn out to have a higher rate (when compared to userbase) of purchase on the ps3 side. I didn't use any of the games that released later on the ps3 than the 360 version to keep things on the level. I am also aware that GH III did significantly better on the 360 , but that is likely due to the release of GH II earlier in the year and a lot of guitars already sold so people didn't have to come up with more money. I would imagine that if GH II released on the ps3 at the same time it released on the 360 then the software ratio numbers for GH III on the ps3 would be significantly higher because people would have already had the guitars too.

I also looked at their TOTAL software estimates for the week in NA and compared to the overall hardware sales ........ I threw out all of the pack-in sales numbers from Forza 2 , Marvel Ultimate Alliance , and Motorstorm and more ps3 owners bought a ps3 game this week (ratio-wise) than did 360 owners.

Again ......... what is the deal ? Do *gasp* ps3 owners buy games too ? Why wouldn't the 360's numbers be much higher ?

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According to vgchartz........ (oh god , yes I used vgchartz )

NA - hardware totals (360 has ~ 3.6 times the userbase)

  • 360 - 8,467,762
  • PS3 - 2,324,092

NA - Call of Duty 4 sales (360 version didn't out sell it by more than 3.6 times , only 2.8)

  • 360 - 507,659
  • ps3 - 179,471

How many owners bought this game for each ?

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 16.6 360 owners bought the game
  • ps3 -approx. one out of every 12.9 ps3 owners bought the game

Why didn't more 360 owners buy this at a higher rate than ps3 owners ? 360 owners allegedly buy more games and all owners with both systems buy the 360 version for achievements or xbox live so what gives exactly ?

Madden

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 6.9 360 owners bought madden so far
  • ps3 - approx. one out of every 5.2ps3 owners bought madden so far

I checked some othe games like The Simpsons , Tony Hawk , Lego Star Wars , and Jericho and they all turn out to have a higher rate (when compared to userbase) of purchase on the ps3 side. I didn't use any of the games that released later on the ps3 than the 360 version to keep things on the level. I am also aware that GH III did significantly better on the 360 , but that is likely due to the release of GH II earlier in the year and a lot of guitars already sold so people didn't have to come up with more money. I would imagine that if GH II released on the ps3 at the same time it released on the 360 then the software ratio numbers for GH III on the ps3 would be significantly higher because people would have already had the guitars too.

I also looked at theirTOTAL software estimates for the week in NAandcompared to the overall hardware sales ........ I threw out all of the pack-in sales numbers from Forza 2 , Marvel Ultimate Alliance , and Motorstorm and more ps3 owners bought a ps3 game this week (ratio-wise) than did 360 owners.

Again ......... what is the deal ? Do *gasp* ps3 owners buy games too ? Why wouldn't the 360's numbers be much higher ?

Nike_Air
nice research Nike
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#3 Hoffgod
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Attach rates tend to go down as install bases go up. Besides, attach rates are overrated. Yeah, they're important, but Activision makes money off of the absolute number of units shipped, not the attach rate.
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Thats pretty interesting considering how much lemmings bash PS3 owners for allegedly not going out and buying games. But dont worry your gonna get your fair share of "well what options do PS3 owners have?" comments.

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#5 DaysAirlines
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Because your typical Call of Duty fan isn't going to be your typical Madden fan. The 360 userbase is a diverse one and not every game speaks to him or her. The PS3 userbase right now is your hardcores, the ones that adopted early and have tons of disposable income on hand so I'm sure they are willing to consume content at a rate that already meets the hardcore saturatin.
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#6 Metal_RAY
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Obviously not 100% accurate lol far from itbut its expected as X360 has a larger userbase..

although it sold well on PS3.

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#7 stereointegrity
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no to like i wanna fight but i will wait for a more credible selling source(not to say u are wrong or anything)
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#8 Out_Kast3000
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THe Lemmings are too busy playing Halo despite CoD4 being superior. Also, this is the PS3's first big FPS this season.

And you have ALL those people with broken XBOXs.

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#9 eddy_of_york
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Because the 360 has a bigger library. /thread
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its called the halo effect :D
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Because your typical Call of Duty fan isn't going to be your typical Madden fan. The 360 userbase is a diverse one and not every game speaks to him or her. The PS3 userbase right now is your hardcores, the ones that adopted early and have tons of disposable income on hand so I'm sure they are willing to consume content at a rate that already meets the hardcore saturatin.DaysAirlines

LOL, no. Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

The XBOX 360 fanbase is made up of people who want to play Halo and FPSs. The XBOX 360 easily has the the least variety out of any conosle(and it's not going to change) . It's just an XBOX 1 with triple the shooters.

The PS3 fanbase is made up of people who who want to play games of every genre basically.

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#12 i-lick-monkeys
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good news right there
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its called the halo effect :Dskixwolf
lol nice
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Because your typical Call of Duty fan isn't going to be your typical Madden fan. The 360 userbase is a diverse one and not every game speaks to him or her. The PS3 userbase right now is your hardcores, the ones that adopted early and have tons of disposable income on hand so I'm sure they are willing to consume content at a rate that already meets the hardcore saturatin.Out_Kast3000

LOL, no. Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

The XBOX 360 fanbase is made up of people who want to play Halo and FPSs. The XBOX 360 easily has the the least variety out of any conosle(and it's not going to change) . It's just an XBOX 1 with triple the shooters.

The PS3 fanbase is made up of people who who want to play games of every genre basically.

Oh yeah you are so right. Games like Guitar Hero, Madden, Forza, or the Fifa games didn't sell at all. Oh and by the way, do me a favor and never post on these boards again.
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That's some good research man as it clearly debunks the myth that PS3 owners "Don't buy any games." Plus it was well presented :D
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#16 JocktheMotie
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I would think because the FPS audience is split with Halo 3, Bioshock, and other AAA FPS' while the PS3 pretty much only has COD4. COD4 has NO competition on that system. But I'm glad to see COD4 doing well across the board, and I'm glad PS3 owners get a great game finally.
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#17 Out_Kast3000
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[QUOTE="Out_Kast3000"]

[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]Because your typical Call of Duty fan isn't going to be your typical Madden fan. The 360 userbase is a diverse one and not every game speaks to him or her. The PS3 userbase right now is your hardcores, the ones that adopted early and have tons of disposable income on hand so I'm sure they are willing to consume content at a rate that already meets the hardcore saturatin.DaysAirlines

LOL, no. Don't post if you don't know what you're talking about.

The XBOX 360 fanbase is made up of people who want to play Halo and FPSs. The XBOX 360 easily has the the least variety out of any conosle(and it's not going to change) . It's just an XBOX 1 with triple the shooters.

The PS3 fanbase is made up of people who who want to play games of every genre basically.

Oh yeah you are so right. Games like Guitar Hero, Madden, Forza, or the Fifa games didn't sell at all.

What does that have to do with anything?

Do you even know what you're talking about? I'm convinced you don't.

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this is why having a large userbase is important for sales.
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#20 kingtito
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That's some good research man as it clearly debunks the myth that PS3 owners "Don't buy any games." Plus it was well presented :D Popadophalis

No that doesn't debunk anything considering the 360 out sells the PS3 by a LOT in terms of games. 1 game and a small user base doesn't mean the software is selling well.

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Why? because nearly 5,000,000 people bought Halo3.

PS3 owners need COD4!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#22 degeneraz
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Why didn't I buy CoD4? Hmm..I think its partly because I'm already playing BioShock, Halo 3, Virtua Fighter 5, and soon Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect. Xbox 360 has so many great games to choose from whereas PS3 owners jump on the first good game that comes out on their system.
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#23 DaysAirlines
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And it was about this time last year that Gears of War sold 2 million copies it's first month with a fraction of whatever user base the 360 has now. Care to mention a PS3 game that can do that this month?
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#24 PBSnipes
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There are a couple of explanations for this:

  1. You're using VGChartz. For all we know the 360 sales numbers do work out to a 3.6:1 ratio and VGChartz screwed to pooch.
  2. The 360 generally speaking has a better library. The PS3 has been lacking in games and CoD 4 comes out to rave reviews. Meanwhile 360 owners are playing the OB, Halo 3, PGR4, and have Mass Effect on the way. Without Halo 3, CoD 4 sales would most likely have been much higher.
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#25 SpruceCaboose
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So the console with more shooters as a whole this holiday (360 with Orange Box, Halo 3, BioShock) sold less of another shooter (CoD4) than a system that is looking for all the great software it can get (PS3).

Makes sense to me.

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#26 Blackbond
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Attach rates tend to go down as install bases go up. Hoffgod

There are only so many Hardcore gamers out there. The Hardcore are usually the early adopters. After a while you pretty much hit the wall with the Hardcore crowd hence the reason why casuals dominate the sales.

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#27 DaysAirlines
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PS3 owners are starved for content. Same reason why Dead Rising sold so damn well last summer, it's not like there is huge list of games that are playable on the PS3 right now either.
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Because your typical Call of Duty fan isn't going to be your typical Madden fan. The 360 userbase is a diverse one and not every game speaks to him or her. The PS3 userbase right now is your hardcores, the ones that adopted early and have tons of disposable income on hand so I'm sure they are willing to consume content at a rate that already meets the hardcore saturatin.DaysAirlines

Nice theory, but the 360 userbase is hardly diverse. The 360 mainly appeals to the hardcore, 18-35 year old male demographic, much like the original Xbox and the PS3 at the moment.

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PS3 owners are starved for content. Same reason why Dead Rising sold so damn well last summer, it's not like there is huge list of games that are playable on the PS3 right now either.DaysAirlines

Now that's a theory I can buy, but it goes against the common claim that PS3 owners don't buy games.

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#30 blackace
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According to vgchartz........ (oh god , yes I used vgchartz )

NA - hardware totals (360 has ~ 3.6 times the userbase)

  • 360 - 8,467,762
  • PS3 - 2,324,092

NA - Call of Duty 4 sales (360 version didn't out sell it by more than 3.6 times , only 2.8)

  • 360 - 507,659
  • ps3 - 179,471

How many owners bought this game for each ?

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 16.6 360 owners bought the game
  • ps3 -approx. one out of every 12.9 ps3 owners bought the game

Why didn't more 360 owners buy this at a higher rate than ps3 owners ? 360 owners allegedly buy more games and all owners with both systems buy the 360 version for achievements or xbox live so what gives exactly ?

Madden

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 6.9 360 owners bought madden so far
  • ps3 - approx. one out of every 5.2ps3 owners bought madden so far

I checked some othe games like The Simpsons , Tony Hawk , Lego Star Wars , and Jericho and they all turn out to have a higher rate (when compared to userbase) of purchase on the ps3 side. I didn't use any of the games that released later on the ps3 than the 360 version to keep things on the level. I am also aware that GH III did significantly better on the 360 , but that is likely due to the release of GH II earlier in the year and a lot of guitars already sold so people didn't have to come up with more money. I would imagine that if GH II released on the ps3 at the same time it released on the 360 then the software ratio numbers for GH III on the ps3 would be significantly higher because people would have already had the guitars too.

I also looked at their TOTAL software estimates for the week in NA and compared to the overall hardware sales ........ I threw out all of the pack-in sales numbers from Forza 2 , Marvel Ultimate Alliance , and Motorstorm and more ps3 owners bought a ps3 game this week (ratio-wise) than did 360 owners.

Again ......... what is the deal ? Do *gasp* ps3 owners buy games too ? Why wouldn't the 360's numbers be much higher ?

Nike_Air

Now explain why exclusive games like Heavenly Sword, R&C and Warhawk hasn't sold over 500,000 copies yet have being on retail shelves for more then 3 weeks? Whereas Halo 3 sold over 3 million copies in just 12 days. :lol: It's sad when Sony can't even sell their exclusives, but 3rd party titles are outselling them. :roll:

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The 360 has gotten Halo 3 and The Orange Box in the past month and a half. Since the people who bought those two games are the same FPS fans who would most likely buy this game it's obvious why it's sales aren't better then they are.

On the other hand FPS fans on the PS3 have had no significant FPS titles recnetly other then Warhawk which, with no disrespect to Warhawk as it is a good title, isn't really on par with the other titles mentioned in this thread. With the lack of anyhigh qualityFPS competition it's blazingly obvious why COD4 has posted good sales numbers for the PS3. Had OB not been delayed for the PS3 I'd expect the PS3 version of COD4 wouldn't have sold quite aswell.

Also, this is VGchartz and they could have just screwed up again. (sits back and awaits NPD numbers)

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#32 Huff
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One system has a large library of good games, one has about 4 good games.
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According to vgchartz........ (oh god , yes I used vgchartz )

NA - hardware totals (360 has ~ 3.6 times the userbase)

  • 360 - 8,467,762
  • PS3 - 2,324,092

NA - Call of Duty 4 sales (360 version didn't out sell it by more than 3.6 times , only 2.8)

  • 360 - 507,659
  • ps3 - 179,471

How many owners bought this game for each ?

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 16.6 360 owners bought the game
  • ps3 -approx. one out of every 12.9 ps3 owners bought the game

Why didn't more 360 owners buy this at a higher rate than ps3 owners ? 360 owners allegedly buy more games and all owners with both systems buy the 360 version for achievements or xbox live so what gives exactly ?

Madden

  • 360 - approx. one out of every 6.9 360 owners bought madden so far
  • ps3 - approx. one out of every 5.2ps3 owners bought madden so far

I checked some othe games like The Simpsons , Tony Hawk , Lego Star Wars , and Jericho and they all turn out to have a higher rate (when compared to userbase) of purchase on the ps3 side. I didn't use any of the games that released later on the ps3 than the 360 version to keep things on the level. I am also aware that GH III did significantly better on the 360 , but that is likely due to the release of GH II earlier in the year and a lot of guitars already sold so people didn't have to come up with more money. I would imagine that if GH II released on the ps3 at the same time it released on the 360 then the software ratio numbers for GH III on the ps3 would be significantly higher because people would have already had the guitars too.

I also looked at their TOTAL software estimates for the week in NA and compared to the overall hardware sales ........ I threw out all of the pack-in sales numbers from Forza 2 , Marvel Ultimate Alliance , and Motorstorm and more ps3 owners bought a ps3 game this week (ratio-wise) than did 360 owners.

Again ......... what is the deal ? Do *gasp* ps3 owners buy games too ? Why wouldn't the 360's numbers be much higher ?

Nike_Air

Because PS3 does not have a HOST other games to choose from, like Naruto, Mass Effect, Bioshokc, Halo 3, Overlord, Ace Comabt etc etc ?

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OMG, cows bought 1 super hyped game!:shock:Shocking!:roll:
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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]PS3 owners are starved for content. Same reason why Dead Rising sold so damn well last summer, it's not like there is huge list of games that are playable on the PS3 right now either.fuzzysquash

Now that's a theory I can buy, but it goes against the common claim that PS3 owners don't buy games.

PS3 owners want to buy games... but they want to buy Good games, No Great ones...

59.99$ Plus whatever state tax is a heavy propostion for most people.

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" Now explain why exclusive games like Heavenly Sword, R&C and Warhawk hasn't sold over 500,000 copies yet have being on retail shelves for more then 3 weeks? Whereas Halo 3 sold over 3 million copies in just 12 days. It's sad when Sony can't even sell their exclusives, but 3rd party titles are outselling them. "

Halo 3 is an epic system selling game of course :roll:We already knew thatSony doesn't have anything as popular as that for the NA audience. :?Call of Duty 4 is obviously going to be more popular than those ps3 exclusive games , it is one of the most popular third party franchises in the industry right now. Those exclusives are doing alright considering what types of game they are and the installbase numbers. Do you think if GT5 releasedit wouldn't sell well better than HS , Warhawk , and R&C ?

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[QUOTE="Popadophalis"]That's some good research man as it clearly debunks the myth that PS3 owners "Don't buy any games." Plus it was well presented :D kingtito

No that doesn't debunk anything considering the 360 out sells the PS3 by a LOT in terms of games. 1 game and a small user base doesn't mean the software is selling well.



Did you read this thread? Jesus tap-dancing christ.

Great jobnike!
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#38 Blue-Sky
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Didn't call of duty just come out? I'd wait at least a month after release before comparing numbers.

The supporting numbers make a really poor and lame arguement.

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#39 Metal_RAY
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TC's post is full of win.
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#40 subyman
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Yeah I agree with the others. There are a ton more games to choose from with the 360 especially shooters. COD4 is a MUST HAVE for a PS3 owner, but just a maybe for a 360 owner.
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#41 peterrobau
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Im going to destroy your argument right here: The reason the % is higher on the ps3 is that there are more games out for the 360, giving COD4 more competition. A good ps3 game comes out rarely, so when theres a good ps3 game youd hope that almost all owners buy it. For example, on the 360, COD has to compete with Halo and the Orange Box, but on ps3 COD has nothing. When Madden came out, Bioshock was out as well. Thus, ps3 owners didnt have to make a choice that 360 owners did. \thread
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#42 kruesader
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Lemmings have a far wider range of good games to choose from, those figures make sense to me.
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#43 Art_424
Member since 2004 • 1745 Posts
cows want a cookie for buying their console's games!:lol:
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#44 Nike_Air
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Im going to destroy your argument right here: The reason the % is higher on the ps3 is that there are more games out for the 360, giving COD4 more competition. A good ps3 game comes out rarely NOT TRUE , so when theres a good ps3 game youd hope that almost all owners buy it. For example, on the 360, COD has to compete with Halo and the Orange Box, but on ps3 COD has nothing. When Madden came out, Bioshock was out as well. Thus, ps3 owners didnt have to make a choice that 360 owners did. threadpeterrobau
There are a bunch of good ps3 games that released over the past few months. Competition is everywhere.

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#45 BatmanBegins24
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I I like my PS3 so I'm not trying to sound like a fanboy, but frankly 360 owners have more games to play.It's a fact that the 360 has more AA-AAA games than the PS3.And almost everyone on my friends list thats not playing COD4 is playing Halo 3.

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#46 Big_T-Mac
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mass effect, guitar hero 3, and halo 3. i have no money to buy cod4 til later.
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#47 audioaxes
Member since 2004 • 1570 Posts

this thread fails completely

having a larger % of a console base means nothing. Ofcourse a smaller base with fewer games is going to have a larger % of its base buy a certain game but it will definitely drop as the base grows and more games are released. The supreme factor in game sales for a console is attach rate (ofcourse compared at equivalent time frames).

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#48 Jammy69
Member since 2007 • 224 Posts

I don't get how COD4 selling 180,000 on the PS3 is better than the 360 selling 510,000 :S

Maybe if the PS3 sold more than the 360 you would have an arguement

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#49 comptonst
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The reason that i think that COD4 is selling better on the ps3 than 360 is because alot of 360 users are dedicated halo fans and dont care for call of duty. COD4 is the first major shooter since resistance to come to the ps3 so ps3 users want it alot.
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#50 saolin323
Member since 2007 • 3121 Posts

I don't get how COD4 selling 180,000 on the PS3 is better than the 360 selling 510,000 :S

Maybe if the PS3 sold more than the 360 you would have an arguement

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hahaha indeed :)