call of duty 4 hackers caught on tape!!! (PS3 version)

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

COD4 isn't p2p to my knowledge, and that stuff there is illegal on ranked servers. You just want to bash Sony for something when they don't control it.

leejohnson7

If you bash sony and don't want to sound like a total fanboy, the idea is to pick a valid reason.

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"].... I never seen anything like that, but my friend on PSN hasn't told me about that happening to him (i'm on XBL when my 360 isnt ****ed, so suggesting this is Sonys fault is silly. IW are the ones who have to sort that out, as gamertags arent the centre piece of PSN from what I have heard.3picuri3

it's totally sony's fault - it's because they made an open system you can abuse, not a closed on like 360.

this is why i play multi mostly on the 360 - because you get next to zero cheaters. on my PC, and on my PS3 before I sold it, you get this crap all the time.

i know some people bash MS for not letting mods in and making the system closed, but imo its a great thing if you hate cheaters ;)

If you've ever played pc games, you'd know that cheaters is a 1/1000th thing that you can easily avoid just by leaving the server and joining another one.

And are you saying you'd rather have no cheaters instead of mods?

[QUOTE="Dante2710"] ummm technically yes....but we are talking about something within the game that everyone can exploit...and this isnt the case
VoodooHak

to be clear, XBL does allow glitchers.. but if the host is allowing it and nobody complains and plenty of other people are doing it in the same session. It's reportable if everyone's gamerzone is set to family, recreational or pro and someone's glitching. That's definitely a violation on at least 2 counts: inappropriate gamerzone and unsportsmanlike conduct.

At the end of the day, it's up to the players to report it right away. Otherwise, they have no right to complain.

But on top of that, you can give those people negative feedback and set them to Avoid status so you'll be alot less likely to be matched with them in a session.

glitching is different than flat out cheating - glitching for the most part can be addressed and stopped.

cheaters that abuse the system on a code level are much harder to stop - and thats what you get on PC and PS3... i can live with the glitching, it's the cheating that bothers me. if anything i support glitching in certain situations - i.e. TF2, it brought the issue to Valves attention a lot faster when people started doing it everywhere they could.

long story short - glitching and cheating aren't the same thing.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"].... I never seen anything like that, but my friend on PSN hasn't told me about that happening to him (i'm on XBL when my 360 isnt ****ed, so suggesting this is Sonys fault is silly. IW are the ones who have to sort that out, as gamertags arent the centre piece of PSN from what I have heard.ice144

it's totally sony's fault - it's because they made an open system you can abuse, not a closed on like 360.

this is why i play multi mostly on the 360 - because you get next to zero cheaters. on my PC, and on my PS3 before I sold it, you get this crap all the time.

i know some people bash MS for not letting mods in and making the system closed, but imo its a great thing if you hate cheaters ;)

If you've ever played pc games, you'd know that cheaters is a 1/1000th thing that you can easily avoid just by leaving the server and joining another one.

And are you saying you'd rather have no cheaters instead of mods?

yeah basically. on consoles that is. PC is always going to be open so it doesn't matter, but on consoles it can be regulated and controlled a lot easier.

and omg. have you played COD4 recently on PC? Or hmmmm... crysis MP? nearly every game had a cheater on Crysis for the longest time and the patch took them a month! totally killed it for a while. it's nowhere near a 1/1000 thing... games like 2142 are permanently lopsided due to client side grenade arc cheats that can't be picked up on the server side... if you think it's that limited of an issue you're just not noticing the cheating happening, sometimes it's pretty subtle stuff.

[QUOTE="ice144"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"].... I never seen anything like that, but my friend on PSN hasn't told me about that happening to him (i'm on XBL when my 360 isnt ****ed, so suggesting this is Sonys fault is silly. IW are the ones who have to sort that out, as gamertags arent the centre piece of PSN from what I have heard.3picuri3

it's totally sony's fault - it's because they made an open system you can abuse, not a closed on like 360.

this is why i play multi mostly on the 360 - because you get next to zero cheaters. on my PC, and on my PS3 before I sold it, you get this crap all the time.

i know some people bash MS for not letting mods in and making the system closed, but imo its a great thing if you hate cheaters ;)

If you've ever played pc games, you'd know that cheaters is a 1/1000th thing that you can easily avoid just by leaving the server and joining another one.

And are you saying you'd rather have no cheaters instead of mods?

yeah basically. on consoles that is. PC is always going to be open so it doesn't matter, but on consoles it can be regulated and controlled a lot easier.

and omg. have you played COD4 recently on PC? Or hmmmm... crysis MP? nearly every game had a cheater on Crysis for the longest time and the patch took them a month! totally killed it for a while. it's nowhere near a 1/1000 thing... games like 2142 are permanently lopsided due to client side grenade arc cheats that can't be picked up on the server side... if you think it's that limited of an issue you're just not noticing the cheating happening, sometimes it's pretty subtle stuff.

I see your point, I could debate better if i had played any of those games on the pc (only played 2142 demo, found it boring, and have COD4 on 360).

And by cheating do you mean exploits? That's 2 different things imo.

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

COD4 isn't p2p to my knowledge, and that stuff there is illegal on ranked servers. You just want to bash Sony for something when they don't control it.

Dante2710

If you bash sony and don't want to sound like a total fanboy, the idea is to pick a valid reason.

Obviously nobody here remembers the crab walk, or the wall jump, or half of the other glitches in Gears which nothing was done about. This isn't really unique to Sony, and in this case, isn't anything to do with Sony as IW is a 3rd party developer. At least you did get to bad mouth Sony though, that is what counts, whether it is valid or not doesn't matter apparently.

I see your point, I could debate better if i had played any of those games on the pc (only played 2142 demo, found it boring, and have COD4 on 360).

And by cheating do you mean exploits? That's 2 different things imo.

ice144

exploits I consider glitching - and I support to an extent. the more people use them the more impetus the devs have to fix the hole in their game.

cheats are anything that give you an unfair advantage over the competition by altering game code, or adding to it.

the most annoying ones are aiming aids, or ricochet aids. these are now present in pretty much all battlefield PC games - which is why I don't play them anymore. what it involved was adding a client-side graphic for the arc the grenade would take complete with where it would land - i was always wondering how guys would nail me with total precision using rifle grenades, then my mate showed my a video of a guy using it... that's the day i stopped playing :)

cheaters can totally ruin games, many exploiters will claim they do it for the benefit of the game - some don't, just like to rack points, but glitchers are more admirable than cheaters imo.

what we have with COD4 PS3 is a clear case of cheating :) those guys deserve bans from PSN.

[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

COD4 isn't p2p to my knowledge, and that stuff there is illegal on ranked servers. You just want to bash Sony for something when they don't control it.

leejohnson7

If you bash sony and don't want to sound like a total fanboy, the idea is to pick a valid reason.

Obviously nobody here remembers the crab walk, or the wall jump, or half of the other glitches in Gears which nothing was done about. This isn't really unique to Sony, and in this case, isn't anything to do with Sony as IW is a 3rd party developer. At least you did get to bad mouth Sony though, that is what counts, whether it is valid or not doesn't matter apparently.

gimme a break Lee, how far will you stoop to defend PSN and Sony? glitches =/= cheats... you can't 'cheat' on XBL because it's a closed system.

PS3 is open - so people can manipulate things easier, likely with linux installs, and flat out cheat on PSN.

OK...I guess im a little slow, and dumb...what was I watching? I didnt see anything other than someone playing cod4...help this old person see the truth..FunkyHeadHunter

if you have the audio on he does commentary.

basically a few players logged as spectators who were invisible shooting people from the sky :)

[QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="leejohnson7"]

COD4 isn't p2p to my knowledge, and that stuff there is illegal on ranked servers. You just want to bash Sony for something when they don't control it.

3picuri3

If you bash sony and don't want to sound like a total fanboy, the idea is to pick a valid reason.

Obviously nobody here remembers the crab walk, or the wall jump, or half of the other glitches in Gears which nothing was done about. This isn't really unique to Sony, and in this case, isn't anything to do with Sony as IW is a 3rd party developer. At least you did get to bad mouth Sony though, that is what counts, whether it is valid or not doesn't matter apparently.

gimme a break Lee, how far will you stoop to defend PSN and Sony? glitches =/= cheats... you can't 'cheat' on XBL because it's a closed system.

PS3 is open - so people can manipulate things easier, likely with linux installs, and flat out cheat on PSN.

Glitches can be just as bad in some cases, but a lot more common.

Either you see a hacker(party) 1 in 30 games (if that, and lets face it, this doesn't happen often), or lose user generated content.

I don't have a PS3, or PSN account, nor do I stoop anywhere to defend them, but this isn't Sony's problem for the most part

Glitches can be just as bad in some cases, but a lot more common.

Either you see a hacker(party) 1 in 30 games (if that, and lets face it, this doesn't happen often), or lose user generated content.

I don't have a PS3, or PSN account, nor do I stoop anywhere to defend them, but this isn't Sony's problem for the most part

leejohnson7

i totally agree both are bad - but cheaters / hackers are far far worse. and it does happen a lot on PC imo.

and I do agree, for the most part this isn't Sony's problem - it's IW / Activisions job to fix it... but in a way it's Sony's fault for having such open architecture.. imo it's a blessing (mods) and a curse (cheaters).

The mods at resistance: Fall of Man ban cheaters/Hackers/Glitchers, all you have to do is go to the website and pm the mod who's in charge of it and they seek out this person and ban it once they find it cheating. It would be best if all online video games did this.jeffdoomsday

that sounds like a good and effective system.

I stopped playing COD4 a long time ago. 95% of players in that game are garbage.

There's TONS more hackers in the 360 version of CoD4 than the PS3 version. I've played about 15 days of CoD and haven't encountered a single hacker in the PS3 version, yet my 11 days in the 360 version I found atleast 3 or 4.

link

This is just sad that people have to resort to cheating. I have not encountered this sort of thing on xbox live probably because they would be banned. Sony needs to do something about this. thoughts?

darkmagician06

Yes, it's sad, but are you serious you haven't encountered this on XBLIVE? This crap is all over everything from PSN, To XBOX LIVE, and especially PC.

No one is safe. I see crap on GeoW2, COD, HALO 2-3, Battlefield all the time, there's not much you can do except report them and move on.

Never found people cheating when playing COD4 over live,and i know how they do it..

Nobody else noticed this thread is a year old? And lol @ the comments saying this was happening because of Linux.

What do people get out of cheating?AAllxxjjnn

There's TONS more hackers in the 360 version of CoD4 than the PS3 version. I've played about 15 days of CoD and haven't encountered a single hacker in the PS3 version, yet my 11 days in the 360 version I found atleast 3 or 4.

ChrnoTrigger

[QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

There's TONS more hackers in the 360 version of CoD4 than the PS3 version. I've played about 15 days of CoD and haven't encountered a single hacker in the PS3 version, yet my 11 days in the 360 version I found atleast 3 or 4.

blue_hazy_basic

Funny because my next door neighbor tells me that PS3 has hackers in every PS3 game so it must be true.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="ChrnoTrigger"]

There's TONS more hackers in the 360 version of CoD4 than the PS3 version. I've played about 15 days of CoD and haven't encountered a single hacker in the PS3 version, yet my 11 days in the 360 version I found atleast 3 or 4.

Erik_Lensherr

Funny because my next door neighbor tells me that PS3 has hackers in every PS3 game so it must be true.

You're neighbor's an idiot.

[QUOTE="out0v0rder"]time to buy a ps3, cheating is fun as hell and makes all the other players mad. If someone gets mad at you in an online game for any reason whatsoever, you are the winner.Erik_Lensherr

No cheating is for P****y Fa***ts that have no life and is whats wrong with multiplayer glad to know which side you fall on. So please go buy a PS3 so I don't have to be involved in your sad life.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

time to buy a ps3, cheating is fun as hell and makes all the other players mad. If someone gets mad at you in an online game for any reason whatsoever, you are the winner.out0v0rder

No cheating is for P****y Fa***ts that have no life and is whats wrong with multiplayer glad to know which side you fall on. So please go buy a PS3 so I don't have to be involved in your sad life.

[QUOTE="Erik_Lensherr"]

No cheating is for P****y Fa***ts that have no life and is whats wrong with multiplayer glad to know which side you fall on. So please go buy a PS3 so I don't have to be involved in your sad life.

it happens on all the consoles, players actually hire people to kick out other players they dont like on xbox live

its a growing problem it seems. its a massive hacking problem

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7888369.stm

that's dumb....why would anyone get any enjoyment out of that other than ruining someone else's experience. MikeE21286

Man, PS3's suck for aiming!daytona_178

Wow? so if i let my 2 year old nephew play cod4 on pc/360 and he sucks at it, does that mean that specific gaming platform sucks?

Blame the player not the game

Got a problem, then get a ps3 and play me :P if not, then zip it.

Man, PS3's suck for aiming!daytona_178

Man, some people really suck at aiming :lol:

I encountered a hacker in GTA IV about a week ago. I was playing race and this guy's car was going at least twice as fast compared to the rest of us. I asked him why his car could go so fast and the idiot admitted that he had hacked the game.

[QUOTE="ice144"][QUOTE="3picuri3"]

it's totally sony's fault - it's because they made an open system you can abuse, not a closed on like 360.

this is why i play multi mostly on the 360 - because you get next to zero cheaters. on my PC, and on my PS3 before I sold it, you get this crap all the time.

i know some people bash MS for not letting mods in and making the system closed, but imo its a great thing if you hate cheaters ;)

3picuri3

If you've ever played pc games, you'd know that cheaters is a 1/1000th thing that you can easily avoid just by leaving the server and joining another one.

And are you saying you'd rather have no cheaters instead of mods?

yeah basically. on consoles that is. PC is always going to be open so it doesn't matter, but on consoles it can be regulated and controlled a lot easier.

and omg. have you played COD4 recently on PC? Or hmmmm... crysis MP? nearly every game had a cheater on Crysis for the longest time and the patch took them a month! totally killed it for a while. it's nowhere near a 1/1000 thing... games like 2142 are permanently lopsided due to client side grenade arc cheats that can't be picked up on the server side... if you think it's that limited of an issue you're just not noticing the cheating happening, sometimes it's pretty subtle stuff.

id ratehr there not be a report button.. if there was i would have been banned form ps3, cause im so good people send me messages of all sorts saying im a cheater, using aim bots, etc when i never did. so lol that would suck, so thats why i like ps3

It's funny... you guys all start bashing this like it's the PS3's fault, not the game's. Oh, and being a Killzone player, I have no clue: how is he cheating?

id ratehr there not be a report button.. if there was i would have been banned form ps3, cause im so good people send me messages of all sorts saying im a cheater, using aim bots, etc when i never did. so lol that would suck, so thats why i like ps3

seannn199

It's funny... you guys all start bashing this like it's the PS3's fault, not the game's. Oh, and being a Killzone player, I have no clue: how is he cheating?

muzik_mafia

Wow, people cheating on a FPS on a console. That's never happened. :roll:

As if many, many people haven't encountered this same problem with Halo 3 and GeOW 2 (before the patch that is).

Man, PS3's suck for aiming!daytona_178

Oh my....:lol:

if this were on 360, all players would report this and they would be banned. -GhostMLD-

You should play GTAIV then; one match was so bad there was at least one cheater on each team. Going anywhere within 30 metres of them would result in being shot in the head, be it in a vehicle or not.

May I just point out this is a very well disguised old thread?

I realised when I saw my alt account in this thread, which I haven't posted with for... a year yesterday?